The one+HP does get 30% more power in terms of longevity but if that's all we're noticing then buy the 2 pack for 20 dollars less and have a 70% cut increase for 20% less money out. I appreciate all Ryobi is doing though. Great tools and battery compatibility.

You got 89 cuts from the regular battery, and you got 125 cuts from the lithium+ HP battery. But that difference in capacity has nothing to do with the HP battery or even the brushless tools. The performance difference between those two batteries is not between HP and non-HP, it's in that little "+" symbol. The black batteries that do not say lithium+ use crappy Sony lithium cells. The lithium+ batteries use much higher quality Samsung lithium cells which hold their voltage much better under load. Not many people know about that, and I hardly hear anybody talking about that. It's Ryobi's Dirty Little Secret, and why they can sell the black batteries for so much less money.

125 vs 90 = aprrox 30% more cuts. Seems to (sort of) match the claim. But 2 standards 180 vs 125 = approx 50% more cuts for 20% less money.

This is EXACTLY the test I've been looking for. You just helped me make my buying decision. Thanks for a great and informative video.

Thank you for showing us these very practical tests! Keep up the good work.

Very nice review! A basic multimeter on my Ryobi batteries didn't tell me much so I like seeing real results like here. I'm an early adopter of the 18v system and one piece of advice for anyone with older chargers is don't rely on them when trying to charge a battery. I've been able to charge batteries with a newer charger when one of my older chargers couldn't (it would flash the lights showing defective/fault). Charger itself has technology that matters.

Also, you can be charging one standard while using the second. "Cut for Buck" goes to the standard batterys.

Very nice. Pretty heavily and happily invested in the Ryobi line of tools for my projects. Thank you for the video

Awesome! You're the only one that tested realizing the two extra pins. Thanks for saving me a ton of money. Great job!

thank you friend for showing us the difference of each battery. actually thought the HP would be the better long lasting pick. But thanks for your time in showing us which batery would be better in the long run. will be waiting for more videos in the future!

Hahaha , you were very funny watching in the beginning of the video , another good video , I agree , don't think I would pay that extra for the slight difference.

What a refreshing tool video. New subscriber!!!

Thanks for the test, I've been wondering about this exact battery, now I know and it's a no brainer, awesome job

Great Video, perfect timing as I need to replace batteries and was wondering what to buy. You convinced me for the standard vs HP. Not even considering aftermarket.!!

I have 8 year old battery's that still work and charge fine. Ran fans and lights during the last hurricane here in florida. Ran all night. Thanks ryobi !

As usual, very informative and entertaining video. I am curious about how long it took to test the cuts on both of those batteries.

Your video was very well done, thank you!

You do a nice job. 👍 Was impressed by the cordless blower test too.

Hah! That was funny! The ad break came on right during the ryobi advertisement that was a part of your video was for Konalt 24 Volt tools! Lol

I Love it! Thank You!!!

Proper test video rather than arbitrary things. I appreciate it, bud.

That was a GREAT video! I've been buying Ryobi for years. Pointing out those two new contacts on the HP battery, I very much doubt that my old tools ( still going strong ) have those contacts.

Great stuff! And compared to the regular circular saw, A brushless circular saw and hp battery combo is king! One thing. I don’t think pinching the saw blade is considered bog down. I think the bog down they refer to is when cutting through a hard wood. The hp battery will provide more power to the saw to cut through the higher density.

I totally agree with you, I've done the same thing but with the trimmer and blower, it's good for lighting also, with the 2 black batteries the timing is shorter but if you don't mind changing the batteries you'll get about 50% more time for the buck, but I have to see in the long run will the black batteries will resist like the grey batteries, that is the question ❓

Thanks for the info, that's why I buy the aftermarket batteries and they perform very good!

Thanks, this is exactly the information I needed!

Brilliant test. Thanks for your hard work.

Good job. Watching the ryobi video with popcorn:) So funny 🤣

Thank you for confirming what I already suspected.

Very glad you did this. Thanks 👍

Solid video. Can't argue with this one.. good job

The 4.0 ah High Performance batteries are on sale at Home Depot right now in a 2 pack for $99.95 The standard 4.0 2 pack is $79.95 For $20 difference they are well worth it. 👍

Great info. Thanks

thanks for your effort and patience to make the video .

I do not know if you have but would be interesting to see the internals of those batteries and what cells they are using because if both are 4Ah then they should both store the same amount of energy and should last the same amount of time, which makes me think the HP one might have a higher mAh cells and then under-rating it on the box, the other option is the cells could be the same mAh but be a better quality cell that is able to put out more amps at one time and so be more resistant to voltage sag that would trigger battery protection. My guess is with the first option and they simply slapped the anti bog marketing crap as a way to try and sell them as new and better.

Thanks for that test! Results where unexpecting to say the least.. Are there any point to by their new HP series tools if they dont really benefit from those extra connectors?

Hey Andrew!! Awesome news again about Ego!! I know I am telling you this here in Ryobi review vídeo 😂 but check out the new three videos that Ego posted about the ZeroTurn Mower. Insane awesome. Cheers my friend from Wisconsin and can’t wait to see your video about it!!

Cool video dude! Can you do a video on a ONE+ 18V Cordless Hybrid WHISPER SERIES? I’m skeptical about purchasing one of these because of the duration. I live in a hurricane zone so I don’t own any of these items with batteries.

Very informative! :)

Great presentation! The real cost tradeoff for the "HP" is still a mystery though, let me 'splain. If both batteries are truly 4Ah then what is the HP doing to get more yield? I suspect the individual cells inside the HP pack are better managed such that their useful capacity, or yield is closer to the 4Ah rating. (They may also use a better cell design that allows greater operation range.) Now I need to know the "life rating" of the packs. For example, would I expect the HP pack to provide more cycles of operation? I have many Hitachi 12V tools where the batteries have lasted 10 years. Their battery cells are Panasonic (made in Japan) and the cell charging management for the packs is excellent.

My only problem with Ryobi is the battery form factor. I have had issues with even minor drops with that extended "tower of pisa " when it hits the ground. But I love the amount of supported devices

Great call on what is the real value in batteries.

Are the ones used for the mower, Trimmer and other lawn tools that same? I hate that you don't get enough time to mow your own lawn in one battery. Not even two; and I have an average yard to mow.

Wow. Very interesting. I have and run my own business. We have mostly Ryobi 18volt tools and couldn’t be happier with them. They get the job dome the same and afford me the ability to buy more variety of tools. And if they get stolen or damaged it’s not that bad to replace them. I find that the battery perform very similar amd not worth the extra cost. I juts bought a pair of the 4ah standard batteries today. Great video. I find that adding a Diablo blade make these as any saw perform much better out of the box.

Excellent video!!!

Thanks for clearing up the terms HP & regular for 4ah batteries

Thanks for the video! I'm always confusing about their battery line up

What model brushless saw are you using? I just bought a new 7-1/4” hp model but the blade is on the wrong side. I’m looking for a saw with a left sided blade. But I want the HP Technology. Any recommendations?

Great video. Thanks.

1 for $100, or 2 for $80. I'll take 2 for $80 all day. If I wanted more power, I wouldn't be using Ryobi.

Thank you for the video definitely helps

finally, a real review that tests the battery... how hard was that?

great video, what was that vice table you used to hold the lumber?

Great testing. New subscriber here.

Very informative. Thank you.

Would be interesting to see if the impact version of this would in fact output more torque with the HP vs. standard pack?

If I was a contractor using my tools all day everyday I might spring for the HP battery as not having to change batteries so often might be a time saver. Also he did the bog down test with two fully charged batteries so they were the same. Try it again after both batteries have made 70 cuts. The regular battery would be close to discharged and bog down while the HP battery could power through. As a homeowner that only uses my tools occasionally I’d definitely would get the regular batteries.

Great video thanks I have a Ryobi one+ Lithium 18volt P102 battery Will it fit the newer Ryobi Tools? says nothing about battery

Love your methodology and agree with your conclusions. Was quite disappointed that the drill and impact didn't even have the 'HP' contacts but if the whole 'won't bog down' claim is bogus I'm not sure why.

Just the comparison I wanted. Was debating if it was worth it to get the top tier but seems to make no difference plus there is the added weight and cost. Need two batteries to keep a fresh one on stand by or charging while using the other. Thanks for the tests.

Interesting demonstration! I never did quite understand the claim that the battery 'senses' a bog-down and sends a 'burst' of power to compensate. Unless the circuit board is artificially limiting the output of power, the battery's output is already limited by the discharge rate of the actual cells. I also find it interesting that both batteries are advertised as '4Ah', which is a very clear claim of power over time (4 amps per hour in this case). If the draw from the saw was identical/similar, then based on the claim, they should both run out of juice at about the same time. I'd love to see AVE do a tear-down of these batteries to compare them!

Thank you for making and sharing this video. I just became a home owner and plan on doing my own upgrade projects but I don't know too much about power tools. What's the difference between brushless and standard tools? Should I invest in the more expensive brushless or not?

How about the instant power vs. longevity though? On the ONE+ miter saw usage, that's some heavy duty usage and I'm wondering if the HP will do better (it comes with an HP). I guess your "bog down" test should be what addresses this.

I caught myself eating popcorn while watching you eat popcorn watching the promo.

I believe the tool has sensor that stops operation when to much force is exerted on tool to prevent damage to internal mechanism , as can seen in bog down test, good review, shows benefit of new battery & brushless tools.

I love how they say "Improved, Lithium ion Technology"! Milwaukee used 26650 in their V28 system from 2004! Where are those at now?

Love your videos, they are real and objective and help us a lot to pickup the right power tools, thanks for a great labor !! ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

The real question is what flavor of popcorn was it? My vote is caramel! Hahah honestly amazing video I see an improvement even from the last one.

I have a lawn mower that uses these. The HP battery allows me to cut for a much longer period of time before changing out. Worth the extra money? It depends on the project. I'm out in the hot sun mowing, I'll spend a bit more for a longer lasting battery.

Good call..been wondering how big is the difference...get 2 and get more run time!!

can they be used in other ryobi tools. later models. 100. dolars for batters is to much. and if it worth it.

Thanks for your video 👍 Was the difference because one is HP and one is standard? At same voltage, 4AH = 4AH no? Maybe the standard battery had an issue? Imagine you have two buckets in tje same room,, filled with water and both at the exact same level. Then you put a whole the same size in both. Both buckets will take the exact same time to empty. I would try this again with another set of batteries. Can you please comment?

Perfect for my needs. I don’t need more power, but more longevity will help when I’m in the field working on fences. That extra 30% could be the difference for me

I currently own a 6hour battery, a 4hour a regular hp and two standard. I can power through any job. I recently mowed a full acre with my Ryobi weed wacker on 2 1/2 batteries!!!!!

I wonder if this would give an advantage on an impact drill on a lug nut test

The drill and impact you show are part of their compact series I think. Maybe the regular hp tools do benefit from the batteries.

The HP battery does in fact give more power and in fact last longer. I have put both to the test myself. Just a minor note the terminals are the point of contract the extra two on the back are for certain tools but they all work the same you will still get the same results

How long does it usually take to change standard 18V battery?

It would be interesting to see a Diablo blade on ryobi ,and see if it can double the amount of cuts preformed with the hp battery. It would also show how one manufactures product benefits the performance of another.

"Ya got city hands, Mr. Hooper....been counting money all your life."

Did you use the same blade throughout? I wonder if this might also be a factor

Could it be for the bog down test that the saw was brushless but not an HP model???

lol at your popcorn show during the "propaganda" promo. Thanks for this comparison btw!

So the bms will cut the battery off. Its the same bms in both batteries. If anything the batteries won't fet as hot in the HD. Its hard to know without opening them. Most ryobi use sanyo cells which aren't very good

What is the shelf life of each battery? What is recycle limit to each battery? My son in law buys Ryobi charges uses charges and then does not use again for 6 months to year. By then the battery seems to be dead. That is his story. I know at times he does leave the battery in charger for exteeeeeended periods of time.

I watched this video and it took me to the end to realize who you (sort of) remind me of. It kept eating at me. You are the for adults version of Chad Wild Clay ;-) He could be your nephew.

I would venture to guess that the HP battery recognized a possible overheating and shut the saw quickly and. Having a had brushes melt my tool in the past it's probably a good idea. Secondlie I would have liked to see you change the blade out Before & After switching batteries. Otherwise I appreciate the head to head and understanding the difference in quality

I was a ryobi guy for decades cause the low cost. Recently the cost is pretty close to Dewalt so i upgraded to Dewalt and WOW. YOU NEED TO UPGRADE LIKE I DID.

I have the same saw and it doesn't really ever bog down, but I only use hp batteries. Maybe I'm cutting softer wood? It rips through everything I throw at it.

I solved the Ryobi tool/battery issues and. I bought all new Milwaukee tools

Great video! Do the batteries have the same charger?

Did you start with a brand new blade on both ?

I do notice the difference on my saw, when using a 3Ah high energy battery, it performs much better than my standard 5Ah batteries,

Should try HP's strength test on an impact wrench vs non-hp batteries. Maybe HP batteries provide with only 35% more runtime. How about max torque output in your impact wrench?

Sale on these batteries at HD right now. $79 for a two pack on the standard batteries.

Good video. The circular saw will cut better if you extend the teeth of the blade only a little over the bottom.

For the second test was that a dull blade??

Is it me or does it look like the saw blade is on backwards which would cause it to bog down easily? The new Ryobi's are opposite from the other ones from the direction that they spin as well as going from left facing to right facing. Revered blades will still cut but they don't last long and they bog down easy. More power sent to a reversed spinning blade will cause it to bog down faster that the other one that keeps the power level the same.

RE: Bog Down Test: I wonder if it was the saw that was shutting down and not the battery in which case both batteries would test the same. This is a possibility because the 7" saw is the one tool that can literally be stopped if cutting too hard. No other tool has to deal with that. A trim saw or grinder might reveal what R is claiming. RE: Missing Drill Contacts: The drills not having the extra contacts makes sense since drills are usually not bogged down - especially the little ones. If R makes a large HD drill, it might have the contacts.

The HP batteries have a circuit that exists in the batteries for tools with the extra contacts. It definitely matters. The HP tools move this circuit to the tool, negating the need of the HP battery, as the special sauce is already in the tool and doesn’t need extra contacts or that circuit in the tool. To do a more comprehensive test, you’d need to do tests with a non-HP tool with each battery and HP tool with each battery. You’d see the HP battery affects the non-HP tools with extra contacts, and you’d see the HP tool perform about the same regardless of battery, because the HP “stuff” is in the tool now.