Why did you bother doing it with the old models

I love them both

Awesome! Thank you for the feedback Jay

Thanks for watching!

I found them both to be good useful ratchets

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for watching!

Awesome, thank you! All the way from Bolivia! But no Home Depot there? How do you guys get tools like this over there?

@@jeffostroff Yes, sadly, some guys sell those tools to higher prices here. But already i'm trying to contact to HD's export area, to buy some Milwaukees and/or Ryobis. And if it doesn't work, I hope to visit Florida next year or soon, to see more options. So if you have any tips for me, I will be very grateful.

The cool thing like I showed in the video, is that Ryobi allows you to spin the head into 4 different positions, so the socket is now facing out the short side of the battery, now the clearance is exactly like the Milwaukee

@@jeffostroff clearance is not the same as the Ryobi. You still have 3 Inches hanging off the end of the tool no matter which way you clock the battery. In a tight spot, the Ryobi would be worthless.

@@shanestewart1498 I have a lot of the m12 and m18 Milwaukee tools and wouldn't trade them for anything, the size of the tool and battery is what I need, that huge battery just won't fit in the areas I work.

@@jeffostroff HAHA yeah that aint gonna work all the time chief. I started laughing when I saw the cryobi. Any pro knows that's worthless junk.

I have a C3 craftsman power ratchet(basically grey Ryobi). It's useless because of its massive battery. If the ratchet fits in so does an impact wrench.

That would be a hoot to see that!

Absolutely would be super handy to have a Interstate Megatron on the bottom,, two hands required for safety of course.

Lol.

12v vs 18v

I’m A die hard ryobi fan, owner, user. I have that Milwaukee ratchet. I would have preferred if ryobi made a smaller battery for smaller tools, just like Milwaukee has. They mace a m12 and m18 line of tools. Ryobi could have made a small battery like the Milwaukee but still fit in the 18v charger.

Larry even if you spin the head around on the Ryobi? It makes it have the same clearance as the Milwaukee, at least from the front.

jeffostroff The ryobi spin feature only gives it clearance from that one side, your not accounting for the difference in length or just that now you have the huge battery sticking out the other side, for the task you did sure if wouldn’t matter much, but I’ve had to put my Milwaukee ratchet in tight spaces where it just fit, especially in automotive, places where there’s no way the ryobi would begin to fit. Example taking the bolts out of a fan on the front of the engine, bolts out of the top of a transmission, or in going deep in the engine bay where I have to slide it in and flip it all around just to get to the bolt, many times where an extra inch in length and definitely 3+ inches at the base would not cut it. For real automotive work, nothing beats the Milwaukee.

Right on! Thanks Noname!

Yep, one big brand soup

Thank you for letting me know. Im looking at the Sealey brand as well

I was wondering why Rigid hasn’t released one yet. They’re tool warranty is also 3 years & has a lifetime service agreement when registered to the Rigid power tools account.

Yes but Ridgid is owned by Emerson

Hilarious

Good to hear from a bus mechanic, thanks for the feedback on this Busjockey1!

Great point! Thanks Dale!

@@jeffostroff I also noticed that the Ryobi drove the lag past the shoulder and sunk the hex head in the wood. Whereas the Milwaukee didn't even make it to the shoulder. Good for Ryobi, they take an unnecessary verbal beating by some.

*Facepalm* The Milwaukee is better. The Ryobi isn't nearly as capable. Let's not forget a 6Ah Fuel Milwaukee will outperform the Ryobi in every aspect. Also it's a ratchet not an impact.

Absolutely recheck all important nuts and bolts. Twice I had lug nuts come loose after using a battery powered impact. I always recheck them now.

Ryobi is getting better all the time.

I plan to experiment more with the batteries

Actually the 4.0 m12 batteries will give your tool the most power output, they use LG 2100mah cells which have the highest discharge current.

You and me both!

Thanks for the info!Yes, we showed the 1/2" on the display at Home Depot during this video.

Glad you liked it!

You and me both! Hope to start filming that one tomorrow, had lot so setbacks last week with rain, heat, emergencies, then my Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 boxes arrived a week early and took priority

Looking forward to that one also. Maybe a comparison with the Ryobi??

Air ratchets are the best! They are especially used for lug nuts as they can handle the torque required, often over 100 ft-lbs for lug nuts. But for tight work inside the engine, you might be better off with the smaller and more mobile Milwaukee and Ryobi.

That makes the Ryobi more attractive now with the battery in the kit. You got lucky not busting the head when nut busting or when tightening the nuts. But just be aware the Milwaukee printed instructions for this tool warn us not to do that.

@@jeffostroff yea definitely worth it with the battery and charger. And I don't do it on HEAVILY torqued bolts. Pretty much anything I wouldn't use bigger than a 3/8" ratchet on i wont use this on. And always switch to an actual ratchet to tighten. Essentially common sense. If you work on cars daily you get a feel of when something is about to break and what its limit is. But so far that past few days using the ryobi has been great. The battery did prevent me from getting into a starter signal wire bolt but swiveling the head solved that. So definitely worth it imo. Also thanks again for the review great work!!!

Great point! Thanks for sharing Raymond

I want to get a Fuel version, for more torque

@@jeffostroff yeah, that would definitely be cool.

Well said Uncle Tin!

Well said!

Uh Makita uses a smaller battery for their 3/8 ratchet. That Ryobi 3/8 ratchet design with their regular battery is just plain lazy and lacking innovation! That thing is the best laugh I've had all day.

Thanks, awesome photo. Are they coming out with new other Packout cases also?

@@jeffostroff I have no idea maybe Vince they have a better inside track let's see if he makes a video about it and if he comment on any other new items that may be coming out or available according to the rumors that box may go for about $150

In the shops I only see them using impact wrenches. Maybe they set them for 100 ft-lbs and they stop?

@@jeffostroff they make what is called a "Torque Stick" that limits how much torque an impact wrench can apply. they basically act like a torsion bar a limit how much torque is applied to a fastener. the tire shop may have been using one of those. they work well, but they are not as accurate as a good torque wrench. and by good torque wrench I mean something not bought at harbor freight. the Husky, Kobalt, Craftsman, and Tekton torque wrench's are all good and moderately priced. I have had bad experiences with HF tools. and their Pittsburg line in particular is junk. I hear good things about Icon, but after my bad experiences, I am not going to switch form Tekton and my old USA made Husky tools.

@@jeffostroff I did end up buying the Ryobi 3/8 ratchet. my first one was defective right out of the box. it appears that the F/R selector was stuck in the middle and would not turn to engage the pawls. I returned it to to HD and got another one. so far the replacement has worked perfectly and just used it to replace the battery in my 1970 Camaro SS 396. worked very well and the amount of time it saved was amazing. I was a little worried after the first one was defective, but so far I am very happy with it, and its not like this is the first thing I bought that was defective right out of the box. I had this same thing happen with the Husky 33in mechanics tool cart last year... some worker at the factory installed the drawer locking mechanism incorrectly, so none of the drawers would lock with lid in the closed position. upon inspecting it, the lock mechanism was 180 degrees backwards. the one good thing I can say about shopping at HD is the returns department took care of it with no hassle.

Thanks Rene!

@@jeffostroff you welcome!!

Glad it was helpful!

I want to try the M12 Fuel version of this.

plus the smoke comes out too early

jeffostroff I’ve been hearing the fuel is miles better but I’m not sure what’s improved. I have a fuel and I love it.

@@Racingboom The fuel has 55 # ft of torque the Milwaukee he is using has 35 # ft but I believe the rpms are lower I also have the fuel and love it..

Snapon walks all over the Milwaukee!! They have the best electric ratchets hands down and always will

Thanks 👍 Ron!

Thanks for watching tonight Randy!

Glad you enjoyed it

No problem 👍

Thanks for the visit

Snort it through one nostril for maximum effect

But I Love how Ryobi overcame that huge battery with the rotating head, makes it a non-issue now.

I have a lot of ryobi electric tools, because I can swap batteries as needed, but that big square battery on the end of a slim line tool could be a problem. You started the video talking about tight spaces in a car, and that battery could be a real access problem. Still I don't know if I want to go buy one milwaukee tool

@@TSKseattle Tom, didn't you see the part where I compared both tools side by side and showed how we rotate the head on the Ryobi to make the battery a non-issue?

@@jeffostroff it's not a non issue if you work in tight engine space. I've squeezed my manual ratchets into some small spaces that would not give you space for that battery at the end. I have all ryobi tools but given other options can offer a slimmer design it really puts me off the tool. If not for tight spaces then 18V every time over 12v rachet.

jeffostroff battery on the Ryobi is still a issue. Especially if working in engine bays.

Battery change outs and spark plug changes.

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Wait until you have been a mechanic for double your life and get back to me. I can tell you old fingers, hands, and arms like these electric ratchets,, ahhh except that giant Ryobi.

Thanks for participating during the premiere live chat misfit!

Thank you good job.

I'll revisit this once we get a couple of more ratchets

Definitely! This guys a dork

Yes, Project Farm is the best comparison channel on KZfaq. NO ONE else even comes close!!!

Sorry about that

Yes with a boatload of cash influx I could buy the other 2, these ratchets are pricey from Milwaukee

@@jeffostroff you are right they are pricey didn't realize you didn't have them I have all the brushed and brushless ratchets including the extended ratchets just don't have the speed ratchets yet

The ladder I plan to get soon now that it's $20 less than the $99 Father's Day price is the 6 ft. DeWalt Fiberglass Stepladder homedepot.sjv.io/a0A2o What I really like about it is the larger steps, so I don't stand on the balls of my feet and it digs in to my foot. This new ladder has deeper mega step, designed to provide 25 % more standing surface, so more surface area of your feet rest on the step, better balance. Also Fiberglass means I wont get shocked when doing electrical work if a live wire touches my ladder. Also top has a magnet tray, and bottom has impact absorbing bottom bracing. I showed this ladder at Home Depot during one of my walk throughs in early June.

Fortunately I have both battery platforms

Glad I could help

No problem thanks for watching junior

Good info!

Yes I always tell people with all those old school nicad batteries to ditch those old systems even if you have to pay money to upgrade to a newer brushless motor with lithium ion batteries their lives will be much much better there will be much happier with newer more modern more powerful and lighter tools

I heard a number of guys on our livestream in Home Depot also tell me the Ryobi nailer was good.

@@jeffostroff I thought the Ryobi nailer was decent too when I used my co-workers until my boss bought me the fuel 18 Brad nailer as a bonus for a job and HOLY CRAP does it shit all over the Ryobi. Not just in ergonomics but in battery usage and nail depth consistency as well

Thanks for joining during the premiere tonight!

That's a cool idea!

Look at the size of the Ryobi, see if it will fit where you need to use it.

You should buy the 3/8 Milwaukee Fuel, it will last, fit in places the Ryobi will not. Plus if you ever decide to part with it you'll get more of your investment back on Craigslist or marketplace.

Thank you 👍

It would never? You underestimate what people try to do with their tools

Remember these are light use 35 ft-lbs max

Agree.

Not even close, they are rated for 35 ft-lbs, light duty. Once you nut bust the lug nuts, then you can use this to spin it off, or on the bolt, i do this all the time

That's a novel idea on the adapter!

Thanks for watching Henry!

Will do that on another video soon, this video was getting too long already. Also I'm too long winded, LOL!

Good choice Dave, I mainly use mine for dishwasher installations, and working in tight spaces in engine.

@Bailey Hatfield You know it, those things are loud, I've been at ground zero when one of those things goes off, thankfully it's only for a second.

Yes, I was straining both of those drivers, and on automotive work probably won't be that harsh

I need to score a Fuel version of this tool also.

Makita does have a ratchet on the CXT line and I like it better then the Milwaukee. It has interchangeable anvils so you get a 1/4" and 3/8"

@@craigdoesstuff5270 Makita also has a CXT impact wrench. I use mine for my lightweight jobs, and it is much more powerful than a cordless ratchet. For heavier work I use more powerful impact wrenches. These cordless ratchets seem to be way underpowered for real life applications.

both perform equally for me

Mario Ryobi is the same exact size when you rotate the head around so that it faces the skinny side.

@@jeffostroff It's the same until you need to shove the tool into a hole deeper than the battery.

@@jeffostroff you're a tool

That would be a nice offering

Without a doubt KZfaq has been cramming ads on videos like crazy. I'm always ready to hit that skip button as soon as it becomes highlighted

cant remember

I'd like to see a red/green/orange version!

Impact wrench?

Can you get it from amazon with international shiiping?

@@jeffostroff I probably could, thanks Jeff, but the shipping cost and duty we pay here would probably double the cost 😁. I'll get my hands on one by hook or by crook ! lol

I like their 3" cutoff tool

I want to upgrade to the brushess Fuel Ratchet and try that one.

jeffostroff ...Yeah the fuel is supposed to be more powerful even though it's still 12 V

@@devilefan recent got a 3/8 stubby fuel for 130.tool only...omgosh can do brakes on my 01 Silverado...its beast!

noname given .... That's not a bad price.... i'm not a mechanic so I don't really need the fuel version..lol...I got the other one just for basic nuts and bolts

@@jeffostroff Could also try a more powerful battery on the M12s.

It tightened all the way you can hear the clutch disengage.

Believe me though that rotating head they put on there is a great design feature that really does help move the battery out of the way in certain cases. But yes Ryo be is limited by their battery design that hasn't changed in years and they really need to come up with a slim battery elect those smaller Milwaukee M12 CP batteries that are basically little cylinders that would help tremendously

You're welcome!

Well the tools are both rated 35 ft-lbs I doubt increasing the voltage will do anything if they put voltage regulation in

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Thanks , I see A KETER TABLE , for about $ 60 , on eBay which is similar . Thanks , enjoy all your videos . Wayne

Thanks again , I found your review on the Keter table too .

Shhhhh, our little secret

I think Ryobi will blur the lines on this HP lieneup.

Good idea, but how do you get the impact to fit all the way down deep?

That's why I did it real fast.

Funny you mentioned it Juan, last night on our Lowes shop with me livestream we showed that Craftsman wrench here is the link set right to that part of the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7qqZNiC1afMnKs.html

So Mike, I don't think adding a more powerful battery gives you more power. That's a mistake many people make with regard to power tools. A Higher capacity battery just gives you longer battery life. The motor is set to perform at the speed it performs once it sees 12V. the only tools we know of that produce more power and torque with a larger batter are Dewalt's new PowerDetect series introduced in March.

@@jeffostroff That's mostly false. The bullet battery in that tool has 3 cells. XC packs have 6. That is twice the available amps as they are two parallel banks of 3cells each in series. Now, testing the 3 cell packs against each other you are probably correct. I.e. a 3ah battery likely wouldn't show a performance increase over a 2ah pack. Only runtime would change. And likewise with the 3,4 and 6ah XC packs when compared against each other. I cannot say for sure that this particular tool can draw enough amps under severe load to make a difference though. I do know that the battery and tool "talk" to each other and if either reaches an overload threshold, the circuitry will cut power to the motor. I own over 100 Milwaukee cordless tools, both M12 and M18. That obviously doesn't make me the foremost expert on the topic, but I use them every day.(not all of them of course) And I know my tools. Due to the compactness and performance of the M12 tools, they are the ones I tend to use the most. I can tell you from experience that the larger packs will produce more power under load than the compact packs. And with either pack there is a noticeable difference in power between a battery with 4 bars and one with 1 or 2 bars. For instance, one of the common tasks I perform is to drill and tap 2 1/4-20 holes and one 1-1/8 hole in 1/4 in mild steel and sometimes AR plate. The bullet packs easily drill and tap the 1/4-20 hole without issue. But if I try to drill the 1-1/8 hole with a thin wall hole saw, it will constantly cut out. When I switch to an XC pack, it plows right through with no cutouts. I can say with absolute certainty that the M12 drills, impacts, circular saws, inflator, die grinders, cutoff saw, polisher, and vacuum all perform much better with XC packs. Low drain tools like lights, soldering iron, stapler, caulk gun etc don't draw enough power to show any noticeable difference. I think the ratchet falls into that "maybe, maybe not" category until I see it tested or test it myself. An odd side note: Some lower capacity packs have cell chemistry that enables higher drain rates than their higher capacity brothers, giving higher performance with less runtime. I think this all is a great topic for a video in the future. Simply drive a lag with a compact battery and switch to an XC pack and see if it makes a repeatable difference. Sorry to be so long winded. It's a curse of mine. haha! Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work.

I should try it with the 1.5 aH that comes with it

Sorry bro you are wrong, Milwaukee's instructions specifically state not to do that. Remember it's a 35 ft lb rated tool, and you could easily surpass that trying to use the tool as a manual ratchet

@@jeffostroff I don't think you understood what I was saying I agreed with you on using it as a regular ratchet to tighten items I disagreed with you because you are suppose to use it as a regular ratchet to loosen bolts then use the electric part to take it out Fast I referenced 2 different things in my first message

Thanks for sharing, I can go fairly deep with no problem. It's only an issue when you have to go way down or squeeze into an area where there is no space. But for common repairs like removing batteries, spark plugs, changing main engine gasket, all of those common repairs are reachable with the Ryobi as well.

Both manuals have warnings about this. Milwaukee says this "Do not force the power tool. Use the correct power tool for your application. The correct power tool will do the job better and safer at the rate for which it was designed." AND ALSO, from the Ryobi User guide it says this "NOTICE: Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener and/or the tool."

Milwaukee does not have a "much faster" RPM, they both have the same RPM, and they both have the same 35 ft-lbs

@@jeffostroff No load is over 400 RPM on the Milwaukee.

Thanks glad you like dthe video!

I saw his review last week

The Ryobi motor is rated at the same 35 ft lb

@@jeffostroff I understand it's rated at the same 35 ft pounds but ryobi under rates there tools on paper and 20v tools will give more initial torque because higher voltage also means higher ampage dump from the battery compared to a 12v tool its ohms law

You make it sound like the Ryobi has more power. Both tools are specification listed at 35 ft-lbs, and 240 or so RPM, they should have same power.