Dlss is better in terms of quality, but you have to consider that dlss is exclusive the Nvidia GPUs, while Fsr is open source and can be used on basically any GPU, which helps people with older GPUs get better FPS

dlss is way better.

Dlss is better

FSR is way better

I just stated my observations. Same as always. I have a few more topics to cover featuring the 7900 GRE. By the way, I appreciate you watching out my videos!🤝🙂

I just bought the BiFrost edition

While it's not ideal experience in CS2 (which is true), overall the 7600X is a good CPU. And I said as much. Even in CS2 the experience was very nice. Furthermore, I've very much enjoyed playing other games on this PC. I kept using the 7600X off camera. Didn't have any desire to switch to a more powerful i7 14700KF that I have in my second testing PC.

Nobody is playing cs at 1440p high. Pobably the setup easily averages 300+ fps at 1280x960 comp settings

Nah bro wait then get the 9800x3d

@@marshal7969 can't wait, got it now that it has a decent price. I also don't have a PC right now so I decided to do it

I hope you'll get your GPU repaired or replaced soon🙂 No AAA gaming for now then🫡 GeForce Now is not too bad if your gaming itch gets too intensive. I've used it in the past and it was quite good. Enjoyable. As long as you have a fast internet connection.

@@theivadim I got it refunded, because of Amazon warranty luckily. I'm waiting for next month, so I can buy a 4070ti

What made you want to switch to NVIDIA?

@@theivadim Blender qwq I do a lot of work in blender and unity, nvidia jut performs better. I do gaming only like 10% of the time, so I'm probaby better off with nvidia. On top on just work, I also enjoy raytracing in most games. Also, the 7900XT would be my other option for a new GPU, but it costs me 50€ more than a 4070 ti (the 4070 ti design from gigabyt also fits int omy build better)

If you do that kind of work then you'll definitely be better off with an NVIDIA card👍 I wish you success in your creative endeavours.🫡

I'm glad you enjoyed it🙂 Thank you for the suggestion. I'll consider it.

Also I can't stand people that use bottleneck calculators the wrong way. It's just a tool to help you see if your combo is ok. But a lot of people don't use the good settings on those bottleneck calculators and it gives them like 35% CPU bottleneck with a 7600 and 7900 GRE in 1440p ☠️

You can get that config for 1250€ and play in 4K high so it's still pretty good. Obviously if you want a really budget pc you'll get a R5 5600, 16Gb DDR4 and an RX 6600 😂

I’m not sure where the idea that a “7600 with a 7900 GRE is a budget machine” came from lol. Even cutting costs on other components like the case or SSD, you still end up spending about $1200, which is not budget-friendly. A budget PC is like $800 in my mind. This is easily into the midrange.

I'm glad you found the video helpful🙂 If you can afford it then get the 7800X3D. It'll deliver zero-compromise experience on the CPU side of things. The 7600X does have some limitations as shown in the video at 6:03

Why r u getting drafted?

@@aquamaxyt in israel everyone gets drafted at 18 (unless your haredi or crazy..)

@@thehevytrooper oh im in the us and i think theres something like that but only if there is a war and there aren’t enough troops, wish you the best of luck!

@@aquamaxyt thanks! *hopefully you guys never need to actually have a draft cuz that day is ww3😂

@@thehevytrooper lol

I feel that way too. Here in the UK electricity is expensive as well. It's getting ridiculous. I wonder if it'll ever change?🙂

I feel you. Germany has like the world highest price for power. Got the RTX 4080 Super, only draws around 280W but has so much more power than a RX 7900 GRE or even RX 7900XT.

​@@buttergolem8584it's also 2× the price bro how can you compare a 7900 GRE at 575€ and a 4080 super at 1100€ ???

You can undervolt the card and gain like 30W or more

You'll probably hit 60+ FPS in most games. I wouldn't worry about upgrading the CPU unless you want to game at 120 FPS in these single-player games.

I Played cyberpunk on my friends setup and he use r9 3950 with samé 7900gre and every single game he Played the fps was amazing the cyberpunk at ultra was around 88 to 100 fps cant belived how good that 7900gre work in all those Aaa games i love raster performance of this cart thats why i order samé gpu lets bé honest i would not upgrade from my Rtx 3070 IF it wasnt háve that stupid 8gb of wram cuz i love 3070 great cart and RT performance isnt that bad but damn only IF they made Rtx 3070 12 GB that woukd bé nice sadly greedia has allways different ideas how to fucked with People that buy their products but well thats greedia in a nutsheel. Im pretty sure there is not gonna bé bottleneck at 1440p or higher and this cart háve 16gb of wram soo there is gonna bé enough power to play any new game at ultra settings at 1440p. What it comes to RT i dont care cuz i dont use it on my Rtx 3070 as well cuz that cart dont háve enough power to pull good fps and this new cart as we know AMD the RT isnt their Best think plus fsr 3.0 isnt good as dlss but well enough to give some boost but damn that new frame gen at fsr 3.0 is insaine man just perfection. But lets bé clear i love Aaa games and if i play game at fps abowe 60 and what is main thing game gonna run smooth im sold on that plus the. New helldivers 2 give3me headaches on my Rtx 3070 runs poorly on native 1440p resolutuon plus ultra settings barelky 60 fps and on extrem difficulty game drop to high 30s soo nôt good so i have to force game to run in direct x 11 and game run well abowe 80 fps but this was and is just temporary solution and thats why i choose to upgrade damn my intire PC i started upgrade but its getting slowly dont want drop all my money on PC and i Will not upgrade CPU cuz IF i Will i definitelly going to am5 the am4 is for mé dead end im not gonna buy expensive 5800x3d cuz in samé games its even. Worse tha my old CPU. IF i upgrade i need new ram 6000mhz the new mobo Best would bé asus with quick release gpu slot and new CPU and that would bé ryzen 7700x or 7800x3d but fuck mé that is expensive and if i do that i need new cooler for CPU thats woukd bé another 100 eur and just Like that that woukd bé more expensive than gpu it self. Sooo yes Rtx 3070 is for sale now it serve mé well i love it, but im gonna do what dit one dude for mé 2 years back he buy new gpu and sold mé his barelky used Rtx 3070 for 300 eur and thats give mé chan e to play all games i wanted and i love it, so now i gonna give this gpu away for mutch cheaper than what he give mé that cart and maybe i can make someone happy samé as i was i even repaste it with thermal grizzy kryonaut but damn i dont realize at the tíme i should replace thermal pads as well hut i was lazy ass😂 but after repaste cart drop around 20 deg on Temperature so that was huge succes for me. I hope i can make happy samé as i was. Also nece videos mate thx for benchmark

Yeah, 8GB on the RTX 3070 was a dick move from NVIDIA. It looked super jank when they launched the 12GB RTX 3060😄 As for your CPU, sounds like it can hold up pretty well paired with the 7900 GRE. Enjoy your upgrade! I think you'll be happy with the raw performance the 7900 GRE delivers. Just don't forget to use DDU on your PC to get rid of all previous driver leftovers before installing AMD drivers. Sometimes a fresh driver instal makes a huge difference in terms of stability and gameplay smoothness.

@@theivadim thx mate yeah i know i use DDU before and its night and Day after you do fresh reinstal or when y changing gpu but im still waiting for that 7900gre it will arrive tomorrow morning i just wonder IF DDU WILL delete nvidia g force experience ad well well i guess we find out.

I don't remember if it deletes Experience app. But it does wipe clear the new NVIDIA App that recently replaced it.

Yeah. I remember 1.0 running OK on Ryzen 5 5600X. I think it is still a good game to use as a worst case scenario example. There will be other games like this in the future.

its not with 5800x3d, i had same combo like yours but then i bough 5800x3d and frame drops where much less obvious.

@@roki977 then maybe I will upgrade to the 5800x3d anyway as I plan on upgrading GPU to a high end one like 7800 XT I was thinking

I'm personally running a 7800X3D with a GT730 (+125 core oc / 250 memory oc) Runs cyverpunk at a smooth 15 fps at lowest settings in 720p. (yes this is true. I had a 7800XT that had a defect, so I'm running this temporarily)

@@kamgaming4454bro if the 4070 super is not high end yet the 7800xt is not too

Do you plan on playing esports games using lower graphics settings for maximum FPS?

@@theivadim Yes, FPS is really important to me. I also want to play other games like RDR2 and GTA 5 using normal graphics. The thing is i always want the option to play other games using high graphics with decent FPS, but I will never do so.

Well, what you should keep in mind then is that the 7800X3D will deliver higher max FPS in games that are not very GPU demanding. Like esports games using low or medium settings. The 7600X is a budget friendly solution that requires compromises in some cases. Like reducing crowd density in Cyberpunk 2077 for example. Get the 7800X3D if you want a zero-compromise experience on the CPU side of things.

As a entry level gamer, who did some research, I would suggest buying 850 watt if your GPU is 7800xt or 7900GRE coupled with 7600x. 650W is completely not recommended.

Get at least 700W. I'd go for 850W as well. It's just a little bit more money compared to a 700W PSU and it's totally worth it to have peace of mind and flexibility for future upgrades.

​@@theivadimSo true what you say. I did buy asus 850watt gold psu. And then its a little future proof also. Did see that 7900gre can max peek power 485watts. So you are right there. Thanks help me out. 👍 Very good video. 👏

I'd love to, but it is unlikely to happen. I don't have any contacts with Acer to request a review sample and I don't make enough money to buy it myself. However, as the channel grows I do want to try doing monitor reviews in the future.

@@theivadim will love to watch thwm

7600x. higher boost clock and that cache helps out a lot. But it pretty much depends on what games; if they're simulation games, intel can win with those higher core counts, but overall for gaming, the amd cpu will be a better choice.

I agree. On average, across many games the 7600X is better.

That's a bargain! Nice one!🙂👍

lucky af

1400-1550 Euro

It has bottleneck at 1440p. So, we don't need to test this PC at 1080p to conclude that bottleneck will be even worse. The only question is - by how much?

@@theivadim it’s actually not a bad bottleneck at all. I’ve seen in other videos

@@Abdullah-cb4np Its not a bad bottleneck in GPU demanding games. But if you're playing the GPU demanding single player games you should be playing at 1440p or 4k so 1080p is not optimal for this pairing

Yes. 750W should be enough as long as it's a decent quality PSU that will actually deliver 750W.

U can get a good 850w for 150$ to 80$

@@desmondlemons9129 thx

7600x more performance not by much tho your choice

I prefer the MSI board. Its just a little bit nicer. Bigger VRM heatsink and more power to the CPU which is good for potential future updates and overclocks. But it's not white. It's silver colour. However, if I remember correctly the ASRock motherboard is silver as well.

@@theivadim Thanks a lots brother, Well is there any good white motherboard under 150 US Dollar for white pc build. Well can you rate My White Colour Pc Configuration - Ryzen 5 7600x. Rx 7900 Gre Sapphire Pure. Ram - Adada XPG Lancer 2x16gb 6000mhz CL 30, White. AIO - Ant eSports Ice Glow 360 White. Case - Ant eSports Crystal ARGB White. PSU - Deepcool DQ750-M, Black 750watt. Acer EI322QK 31.5inch 4k 60hz monitor. Adada XPG Blade70 1tb M.2 N.V.M.E SSD. Motherboard - MSI B650m Gaming Plus White, or you recommend me the best white low budget motherboard. is there anything you want me to change, also i am waiting for ryzen 5 9600x.

For 150? Not really. MSI b650m Gaming Plus Wifi is probably the best option. Properly white-themed mobos are $180+. Like GIGABYTE B650 AORUS Elite AX ICE or ASRock B650 Steel Legend WiFi. Your build looks fine. I can't say anything about RAM compatibility. That's the only thing you should check on your motherboard's official website. Sometimes RAM from certain manufacturers can be not compatible with some motherboards. Once you pick your motherboard, get that compatibility checked and you're good to go!👍 Enjoy your new build!

@@theivadim Thanks a lot again, i will follow what you said.. Can you Test Rx 7900 Gre + Ryzen 5 7600x at 4k and also please overclock the gpu and check how much exactly the performance gain over stock. please in next video

We'll see how much I'll be able to do with the 7900 GRE before I have to return it. I'm also interested in how much we can squeeze out of it with overclocking. But you should bear in mind that these chips may greatly vary in quality. So, whatever GPU chip I got in my card could be much better or worse than what you'll get. I suspect that AMD might be using low-quality chips in the 7900 GRE. Otherwise, why not clock it higher out of the box like they do with other SKUs?

Very small. You won't notice. 7600 is a good choice if it's significantly cheaper.

Also, it is easier to cap in game menu while you tweak other settings anyways. Unfortunately, not every game has an FPS limiter as an option. Very few of the latest AAA do, in fact.

Not on every game, the rivaturner FPS is buttery smooth while some games let FPS go to 62 for example even though you limited to 60 so it's less smooth in the end.

Locking FPS doesn't create additional input lag. It just locks your system at the responsiveness level associated with the FPS you lock it to. Imho, it's worth it for single-player games where framerate smoothness has higher priority and delivers the best visual experience.

You stream using CPU encoding in 2024? I'd recommend moving to AV1 or NVENC media engine that is included on all modern GPUs. But for CPU streaming of corse there's not much compute power left in the 6-core 7600X🙂

@@theivadim so just use the 7900 gre's encoder?

That's what I'd do. It has AV1 which is great. However, I'm not a streamer. So, I'd double check with someone who actually has experience with this kind of stuff.

I've not had the 5800X3D. I hope I'll get a chance to test it one of these days. Is that the CPU you use? About Hellblade 2: for real? I'll have to keep on walking further next time then🙂

@@theivadim yea just take few more steps down in the forest and you will see how powerfull/weak your GPU is.. Its late for 5800x3d, there will be good deals on 7800x3d which is quite faster and more efficient. 5700x3d could be nice upgrade for someone with older cpu..

According to Techspot the 7600X is 16-17% faster than a 5800X3D in CP2077. Across 50 games the 7600X is 3-4% faster on average.

@@TheKims82 if you wont i will make you video in the same area with 5800x3d and 7800xt and you will see it will never be under 70 fps on same settings.

@@TheKims82 its done, same place, same settings only gpu is 7800xt and 5800x3d. check in few mins to se how huge difference is with x3d cpu.. I had 5700x and 5600 and trust me difference is huge in many multi player games, racing games and cpu demanding situations like this one in cp2077.

Overclock it and if it's not at 100% all the time it's good. And it's cheap too

Expect similar results in CPU bottleneck scenarios you've seen in this video. But you will get more FPS in GPU demanding games thanks to the more powerful RTX 4080. I'd count it as a win. If choice is between pairing the RTX 4080 with the R5 7600 and downgrading the GPU because of spending more on a more powerful CPU, then I'd pick the RTX 4080 + Ryzen 5 7600.

I would play at 4K with that config. You don't need a 4080 at 1440p imo.

You can undervolt your GPU and get +30W of difference with the stock settings.