Ryzen 9 7950X3D Vs Ryzen 7 7800X3D [42 Game Benchmark | 1080p, 1440p & 4K]

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In todays edition of AMD Vs AMD, we're looking at X3D Vs X3D, with the 7950X3D and the 7800X3D to decide if the extra money makes for a better value processor if both options use 3D V-Cache
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00:00 Introduction
00:34 Sponsor
01:11 The CPUs
02:47 How We Test
03:45 A Plague Tale Requiem
04:17 Assassins Creed Valhalla
04:51 Baldur's Gate 3
05:25 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare II
05:48 Counter Strike 2
06:30 Cyberpunk 2077
07:08 Cyberpunk 2077 RT
07:41 F1 23
08:09 Far Cry 6
08:48 Hogwarts Legacy
09:18 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
09:48 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered RT
10:26 Microsoft Flight Simulator
11:00 Remnant II
11:41 Watch Dogs: Legion
12:27 Performance Analysis
12:45 Percentage Differences
13:23 1% Low Percentage Differences
14:27 Cost Per Frame
15:57 Final Thoughts
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@verde5738
@verde5738 26 күн бұрын
The 7800x3d is a beast of a CPU. Cheap, efficient, and powerful.
@axelNodvon2047
@axelNodvon2047 24 күн бұрын
Cheap only in relative terms, but a great processor
@DraughanTV
@DraughanTV 25 күн бұрын
Funny I see your tiktok randomly yesterday, and randomly the complete video today 😂
@whiskeylinux
@whiskeylinux 26 күн бұрын
After seeing your previous video on the 7800X3D vs the 7700X, and now this video, I'm sold on the 7800X3D. Many thanks!
@jakesnow96
@jakesnow96 25 күн бұрын
I recently upgraded to the 7800X3D, do you have any setup and optimization guides for this?
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
In fact, the 7950X3D is the fastest gaming processor. One of its CCDs is an overclocked version of the 7800X3D to 5.25 GHz, making it significantly faster than the regular 7800X3D. 7950X3D owners should know this and use it. All you need to do is press Win+G and click “save as game”. Then you get the fastest gaming processor on the planet. However, the 7950X3D processor is only necessary for those who not only play games, but also perform work tasks on a PC (rendering, archiving, video and photo processing). If you only play games, the regular 7800X3D will be enough for you.
@patrickmurray1246
@patrickmurray1246 26 күн бұрын
I use process lasso with my 7950x3d to move background tasks to the non-3d cache cores and enforce games to the 3d cache cores….works very well with flight simulator as I have a variety of background apps running at the same time (flight simulator add ons). I think the windows/AMD automatic scheduling across the 2 CCDs has improved but it’s certainly not perfect. Excellent video, thank you for all of the benchmarks across so many titles.
@1BlinkwithAngels82
@1BlinkwithAngels82 26 күн бұрын
Do you have game mode and game bar turned off? The best configuration I've found for my 7950X3D is to have those off and then everything defaults to the second CCD. I just assign games to the first CCD with PL and that seems to provide the best experience while also being pretty easy.
@ceuser3555
@ceuser3555 26 күн бұрын
It still encounters some hiccups in AC Odyssey. I think it has something to do with process lasso being unable to change the affinity or even just a a cpu set, especially with registry or system apps.
@1BlinkwithAngels82
@1BlinkwithAngels82 26 күн бұрын
@@ceuser3555 Hiccups in what way? Like the game isn't being scheduled to CCD0 even with Process Lasso affinities?
@ceuser3555
@ceuser3555 26 күн бұрын
@@1BlinkwithAngels82 lags either in game play or benchmarking even when priority is set to realtime and performance mode.
@patrickmurray1246
@patrickmurray1246 25 күн бұрын
@@1BlinkwithAngels82 I don’t have them off so thanks for that suggestion.
@bradc7827
@bradc7827 25 күн бұрын
Have a 7800x3d on its way. Excited
@shibari69
@shibari69 4 күн бұрын
Which one should I upgrade to? rn I have 10600k with 3080 12GB and I would probably use it mostly for gaming and maybe streaming? Also on some site it was saying that with 7950X3D I would be having 0.0 bottleneck and with the 7800X3D an 20%+ bottleneck... Any recommendations?
@Moonie_87
@Moonie_87 15 күн бұрын
Would be interesting to see the comparisons for the 7800x3d vs the 7950x3d with your Bios set to preferred frequency cores and using process lasso to force games to run on CCD 0.
@Battleneter
@Battleneter 15 күн бұрын
There are a number of videos on YT, they are equal as it pretty much turns the 7950x3d into a 7800x3d.
@MirelRC
@MirelRC 25 күн бұрын
With CS2 I am 100% sure that it doesn't choose the x3D cores on 7950x3D so it runs probably on the non x3D cores (basically the cores that are found in Ryzen 7 7700x or 7950x).
@thaddeus2447
@thaddeus2447 26 күн бұрын
It seems in many cases there is a problem with parking cores, in somes games it just uses wrong ccd
@MMOPC78
@MMOPC78 26 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing regarding core parking on the Ryzen 9 7950X3D. Then 7800X3D is a drop and go CPU; but, many have said that of certain "tweaks" aren't done for the 7950X3D "requires" certain changes in order to "get the most gaming performance" out of it. While it is said that Gamebar does a pretty good job with managing games on the 7950X3D CPU: relying on software to control the CPU cores can cause changes in performance. A friend of mine says Gamebar reminds her of someone trying to function without their first cup of coffee in the morning. Sometimes things go smoothly and sometimes things fall apart before getting the day started. She admits to not being a hardware guru; but, she has said that she has seen a difference on certain ges she plays and wonders if the Gamebar actually caught the game and pushed it to the correct cores. She used a benchmark on one of the games she plays. She ran it once and got a "high end" result. When she restarted her PC and ran the benchmark again: the score and FPS count was quite a bit higher: leading her to believe that Gamebar didn't catch the gaming benchmark as a game the first time it was ran with the exact same settings in the benchmark. IWhile I use a 7700X in my AM5 rig: the benchmark I used always delivered the same results. However: I did upgrade the monitor on my AM5 rig and the score I was getting went up substantially. At the time: the 7700X was best choice for me as my AM5 system doesn't just crunch games. With that said and depending on what AMD releases this year as far as new processors: I may got with the 7800X3D for my pure gaming PC build next year.
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
@@MMOPC78 , you need to use monitoring. In this case, you will see which cores are involved.
@MMOPC78
@MMOPC78 25 күн бұрын
@@serguei1029 Ok... I'll let her know as I don't own the 7950X3D processor. ;-)
@1BlinkwithAngels82
@1BlinkwithAngels82 26 күн бұрын
I get just testing out of the box performance for CPUs, but it would be nice if you could run a quick test to see if using Process Lasso fixes the performance gap and mentioning it. Obviously the dual CCD setup is a bit more tempermental and not everyone wants to mess with stuff like PL, but it's actually really easy if you have game mode and game bar off for most games.
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
You can disable one of the CCDs physically through the BIOS. Then you will get a full overclocked analogue of the 7800X3D (@5.25 GHz). And it will be faster than the regular 7800X3D.
@1BlinkwithAngels82
@1BlinkwithAngels82 26 күн бұрын
@@serguei1029 I've tested that and it doesn't always result in the best performance, plus I want the second CCD to run programs in the background, so I see no point in doing that in most cases.
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
@1BlinkwithAngels82 , in that case you can disable CCD2 from BIOS. It always have a result. You get full analogue 7800X3D overclocked.
@1BlinkwithAngels82
@1BlinkwithAngels82 26 күн бұрын
@@serguei1029 I too am a chat bot that replies random things that don't exactly pertain to what comments are saying.
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 25 күн бұрын
@1BlinkwithAngels82 , in that case it's impossible. You do something wrong
@SOUTHIDK
@SOUTHIDK 15 күн бұрын
I've been using Intel CPUs since my first PC and been a fan of them. Honestly, I will switch to 7800x3D in the next build shortly, this one has an insane performance for its price.
@KiltedCritic
@KiltedCritic 25 күн бұрын
7950X3D always going to struggle with the scheduling issues, and the 1 CCD with the cache. For gaming the other 8 cores might as well be the equivalent of E cores to take on all other loads outside of the game running. Hopefully AMD address for better out the box performance with the 9000 series, as you need to do quite a bit as a user to get it fully working as it should.
@TheBigBlueMarble
@TheBigBlueMarble 25 күн бұрын
That's why you either park the non-X3D cores while gaming, or use Process Lasso to force the game to run on the x3D cores and all other processes to run on the non-X3D cores.
@TheBigBlueMarble
@TheBigBlueMarble 26 күн бұрын
You can't put these two processors head to head unless you do something to either park the cores on the 7950 or use something like process lasso to assign processes to various dies.
@eTeknix
@eTeknix 26 күн бұрын
Tell AMD that. Not everyone is going to do that or know how to do that. We test out of the box performance.
@100500daniel
@100500daniel 26 күн бұрын
People that own that CPU probably know what they're doing so I'd be interested in seeing those "fair" comparison results ​@@eTeknix
@jjlw2378
@jjlw2378 25 күн бұрын
​@@100500danieleTeknik has trouble getting accurate results with "out of the box" settings. His tuned results would be even more untrustworthy.
@eTeknix
@eTeknix 25 күн бұрын
What are you talking about?
@jjlw2378
@jjlw2378 25 күн бұрын
@eTeknix Pepperidge Farms remembers. I know all too well about your incorrect benchmarks, your unwillingness to admit you were wrong, and even striking out against your own subscribers/followers/members for calling you out on it. You even had to make an "apology video". From that day on, I and I'm sure many others lost all respect for you. Making a mistake is understandable. Admitting you made a mistake is admirable. Doubling down and flaming others for calling you out is what a weak egotistical prick does. You always seemed like a decent honest person but after seeing your behavior in the comments of your own videos and on Twitter, it made me think the complete opposite. Take care.
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
You have to use Game Bar with 7950X3D, and you can disable one of CCD's of 7950X3D to transform it to 7800X3D@250MHz. It will be faster than simple 7800X3D.
@eTeknix
@eTeknix 26 күн бұрын
We test out of the box performance. If you have to tweak this and do that, not every consumer is going to know how to do that and aren’t going to want to do that.
@verde5738
@verde5738 26 күн бұрын
@@eTeknix Exactly, people want tech that, as Todd would put it, "just works".
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
@@verde5738 , speak for yourself
@verde5738
@verde5738 26 күн бұрын
@@serguei1029 Take your own advice, because it is an undeniable fact that the overwhelming majority of users use these products as they come out of the box. Most people don't even update their Bios and you think they're going to bother with Process Lasso? Get fucking real xD
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
@@verde5738 , it’s a shame that people don’t want to use their brains and learn how to use their devices correctly
@Scarface1602
@Scarface1602 25 күн бұрын
i ultimately went with the 7800x3d over the 7950x3d due to mainly the 7950x3d having memory right now and also the 7950x3d being overkill for just gaming
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 25 күн бұрын
Great video Andy & the eTeknix team 🥰💪😇👍🫡 This validates my use of my Ryzen 9 7950X3D cpu in my gaming results…… I play majority of the time as an 7800X3D cpu (disabling the second cpu non-3D cache cpu die) and using the cpu as a 7950X3D (both cpu dies activated) in professional applications. However, I have tested some more demanding Ray Tracing titles in my game selection and noticed using the full 7950X3D does yield “generally” 5-10% better average fps and 1% lows 🤩🤯🙂‍↕as well! So once again, you’ve validated my results too. I’ve noticed too using an updated Microsoft Xbox gamebar scheduler has improved over time giving the 7950X3D better results than from initial launch. Great to see Andy that you and your team taking the time to looking to this matter 🫡🙂‍↕🥰👍
@controverso4149
@controverso4149 23 күн бұрын
Strange that no one tests the 7950x3d lowering the clock of the non 3d ccd below the 3d ccd freq. Because it's faster than 7800x3d
@davidepannone6021
@davidepannone6021 26 күн бұрын
That ad tho lmao
@bhaibhai-qe8tt
@bhaibhai-qe8tt 26 күн бұрын
Can anyone suggest a cpu for 4070S, which one to choose 7800x3d or 7900x3d ?
@serguei1029
@serguei1029 26 күн бұрын
7800X3D (or 7950X3D if you woriking on PC)
@Nathan-ry3yu
@Nathan-ry3yu 5 күн бұрын
I have 2 computers in my house one with the Ryzen 7 7800x3d with Asrock B650M-ITX Motherboard and DDR5 6000MHZ 32cal ram with ASUS TUF 4080 super GPU. the other with the ryzen 9 7950x3d with ASUS B650E-I ITX Motherboard with DDR5 5600mhz 28 cal ram and ASUS Strix super 4080 GPU. I'm getting better PTS with the Ryzen 9 in most games. Ive swapped both GPUs arround to test if its the GPU. I found no difference. The ryzen 9 came out on top in most games. But there was a slightly better performance with the Strikes GPU over the TUF GPU
@nossy232323
@nossy232323 22 күн бұрын
Hmm, Hardware Unboxed showed much less difference recently. In fact they had the 7950x3D being a hair faster than the 7800X3D.
@bartegexe8182
@bartegexe8182 21 күн бұрын
Yeah these results are all over the place and don't seem right
@ceuser3555
@ceuser3555 26 күн бұрын
You forgot to test AC Odyssey.
@jggg31
@jggg31 25 күн бұрын
You are GPU bottlenecked at 1080p Ultra for Call of Duty. Should have lowered the in game graphical settings to see a difference in CPUs.
@terryking1094
@terryking1094 21 күн бұрын
Why are your benchmarks always wrong
@KOOLBOI2006
@KOOLBOI2006 23 күн бұрын
Amd poop
@Gielderst
@Gielderst 26 күн бұрын
I've got: MOBO: GIGABYTE X670E AORUS MASTER rev.1.x latest BIOS version F24c CPU: Ryzen 7950X3D Cooler: 420mm AiO Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB Thermal Paste: KingPin KPx RAM: 128GB 4x32 G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB White 6400MHz CL32-39-39-102 1.40V XMP VideoCard: PowerColor RX 7900 XTX Red Devil Limited Edition 1098 of 1500 Re-Pasted with KingPin KPx thermal paste Storage Drives: 1x 2TB SSD Crucial T705 M.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 1x 1TB SSD Kingston NV2 M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe 1x 1TB SSD Intel 660P M.2 PCIe 3.0 NVMe 1x 1TB SSD Crucial P1 M.2 PCIe 3.0 NVMe 1x 512GB HDD Samsung HD502HI - very very old 2009 Power Supply: 1250W Fully Modular 80+ Gold brand " Segotep " model GP1350G CASE: COOLER MASTER COSMOS C700M Monitor: Only 1x 32 inch 4K 160Hz Curved VA panel model GIGABYTE M32UC Mouse & Keyboard: Mouse - ASUS TUF M4 Air wired Keyboard - Mechanical HyperX Alloy Origin Aqua Tactile switches MousePad: SkyPAD 3.0 Very Very Very rare Limited Edition BrosMind Desk: Electric Motor, Carbon Fiber foil wrapped, Rising/Lowering Gaming desk
@MrSham3less
@MrSham3less 25 күн бұрын
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