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S&W Shield Plus vs Sig P365

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The battle of the best micro sub compact 9mm, maybe the two best carry guns on the market going head to head.
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@steemerxaxon1643
@steemerxaxon1643 2 жыл бұрын
The Shield is one of the Few that has NEVER had any problems that I'm aware of!!!! & they are BORINGLY RELIABLE!!!
@unknownunknown3025
@unknownunknown3025 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of an issue with the hellcat; it's also smaller, holds same/ more ammo, better sights, mounting system. Also, the Hellcat was the number 1 selling micro of 2020/2021. I don't find it any snappier than the 365 or the shield plus. Could just be the way it fits my hands; it's pretty subjective. I like the 365 and the plus, I just feel the hellcat is a step above both. Especially if you put the apex trigger in it. Great vid and comparison as always Outlaw.
@lesterparker1594
@lesterparker1594 2 жыл бұрын
@@unknownunknown3025 exactly why I carry the hellcat every day. It works better for me and I shoot it better than the 365, I like the sights better. Haven’t shot the m and p plus yet, but I’m pissed at smith and Wesson because my compact .22 I bought my wife came broken. Won’t cycle 2 rounds without jamming
@unknownunknown3025
@unknownunknown3025 2 жыл бұрын
@Lester Parker that's unfortunate. I tend to stay away from 22 pistols because of reliability issues with them. I'll do 22 revolvers and rifles though.
@steemerxaxon1643
@steemerxaxon1643 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesterparker1594 yeah their .22's is junk!!!
@steemerxaxon1643
@steemerxaxon1643 2 жыл бұрын
@@unknownunknown3025 I was just talking about these two but as far as all small guns I wouldn't give my GLOCK 26 for all of the other ones made all together.... as stupid as that sounds
@user-lq5fd3pl6z
@user-lq5fd3pl6z 2 жыл бұрын
Sold my 365 that I carried for the longest time and picked up a Shield Plus bug out bundle for $540 altogether including shipping and transfer fee. 5 mags, night sights and optics ready. I don’t regret my decision at all
@thenewgunowner9652
@thenewgunowner9652 2 жыл бұрын
me too!
@brandonseth6460
@brandonseth6460 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting the shield plus for the value pack at my local gun shop. $530 comes with interchangeable holster 1 10rd mag and 4 13rd mags with a first aid kit and zip up bag and lockable case. Can’t beat it for this bundles overall value.
@JV-tk9yn
@JV-tk9yn 2 жыл бұрын
That's a smokin' deal dude. How does it shoot? I'm planning on heading to the local outdoor store/shooting range provided they carry some of these newer micro compact pistols. I love the Smith but I also like the Sig since it's smaller and would hide better on my slimmer frame
@davidgibbs1083
@davidgibbs1083 2 жыл бұрын
I got mine for $440 in Phoenix
@blastedmcgraw152
@blastedmcgraw152 2 жыл бұрын
@@JV-tk9yn I’ve rented both pistols at my local range in the last 2 months. I’m in love with the Shield Plus. The 365 is very nice too, but the Shield Plus felt like I was shooting a much bigger pistol.
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro 2 жыл бұрын
And it's also optic cut and has night sights.
@brooktech7869
@brooktech7869 2 жыл бұрын
@@blastedmcgraw152 Its because you were, the P365XL is the same size as the shield plus.
@user-pr3ho5pz4m
@user-pr3ho5pz4m 2 жыл бұрын
Chris your videos are absolutely great. Your honest opinions are why we watch. You and the wife keep up the good work.
@twentyonepilotsofn6277
@twentyonepilotsofn6277 6 ай бұрын
how can an opinion be untrue?
@mpwmu9041
@mpwmu9041 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a Shield 1.0 for over a decade. Hell and back. Utterly reliable.
@carlosaquiles99
@carlosaquiles99 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I carried one of those for several years. Only traded it for a Performance Center Shield 9mm, and later for a SIG P365. All great in my book.
@JadedDark
@JadedDark Жыл бұрын
I just can’t find any reason to part with mine. The trigger is the only thing I’ve ever gripes about. The only thing I’ve considered is upgrading to the Shield Plus for a newer, carry.
@sebenro12
@sebenro12 Жыл бұрын
I carried a gen 1 for 10 years. I upgraded to the shield plus optics ready last week. Great guns.
@johnleahu9503
@johnleahu9503 Жыл бұрын
I still have the 🛡️ 1.0 and I really like it!!
@FBGCUZZO
@FBGCUZZO Жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe but the Sig family is way better more more reliable and everyone of there products are fantastic
@Worleywoods
@Worleywoods 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your review on the Shield Plus a few months back. I was dead set on the 365, but didn't care for the trigger or the grip. But as soon as I picked up the Plus and dry fired it, I bought it! No regrets, love the Shield Plus and carry it every day
@ronolson2024
@ronolson2024 2 жыл бұрын
You made the right choice, and if you had picked the P365, again, you would have made the right choice. I have them both & love them both...
@nova68cutie
@nova68cutie Жыл бұрын
@@ronolson2024 same
@matthewhartup941
@matthewhartup941 Жыл бұрын
Same same here on the p365, didn't like the trigger or the way it felt in hand. It is a quality well made firearm though. The shield plus really shoots well for me.. esp. for a gun its size.
@puertoricanboy100
@puertoricanboy100 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I moved to the states I've fallen in love with these creators, you guys have taught me so much in the past couple of months! Next week I'm actually buying my first gun in the US and for many years I considered a M&P 2.0 .40 but honestly I might switch to 9mm with the P365xl
@Fanuc_Operator1990
@Fanuc_Operator1990 2 жыл бұрын
I have a p365xl and I love it. It shoots great and feels great but if you are planning on concealed carrying every day I'd say get the regular 365 or the shield or a similar gun. The Kimber R7 Mako is also a great gun as well as the Ruger Max-9 and Mossberg MC2sc or Canik Tp9 sfx, all great guns that are considered top of their class. To me the 365xl is just about big to concealed carry comfortably. I have the Ruger LCP Max 380 and I love it, it's so small it makes the 365 looks big and still has 12 rnds of 380.
@gonad84
@gonad84 2 жыл бұрын
Get both
@frontlinepfknr
@frontlinepfknr 2 жыл бұрын
Bienvenidos to the 2A family
@nova68cutie
@nova68cutie Жыл бұрын
I'd stick with the m&p 40. More power yet not overbearing & typically easier to get than 9mm when ammo runs dry due to gun grabbers. Oh & you can swap a barrel out & shoot 357sig which is next level bad a$s & will outperform all 3 with ease.
@BrewingBowman
@BrewingBowman Жыл бұрын
My first shield was in .40 but I also bought a barrel that lets me shoot 9mm, same magazines and everything
@gkott78
@gkott78 Жыл бұрын
365 owner here, had mine for a while. Due to the shape, I find it to be the most concealable ccw I've ever tried. I have the standard model, and I use the flush mag as well as 12 round mags. With the 12 round mag, the grip is great and easier to handle with the 12 rounder and it's still extremely concealable. At night it gets the 15 round mag for nightstand duty. I haven't tried the Shield Plus yet, but have certainly tried the original Shield. I never got along with the grip on the Shield, it just felt awkward and I never felt comfortable with it. The 365 just melts into my palm. You seriously can't go wrong with either though, these are both fantastic. ****EDIT as today I bought an optics ready shield plus. After testing it out, I really liked it, and my current 365 does not have an optics plate. Rather than buying the 365 all over again just to get an optics slide, I decided to grab the shield for a lot less money. The Shield is getting a Holosun 407k GR mounted today. I'll be carrying it with the 13 round mag, and the p365 will be used for more deep conceal with the 10 round flush. As I said in my original statement, you can't go wrong with either.
@unkownuser5809
@unkownuser5809 Жыл бұрын
It's true, both are great guns. I learned to conceal and draw with a shield 2.0 and about to upgrade to the optics installed shield Plus.
@ivaleen
@ivaleen 8 ай бұрын
8:22
@t44e6
@t44e6 4 ай бұрын
Consider a PCC for your bedside. SO MANY upsides over any handgun.
@boscoman69
@boscoman69 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the feel of the S&W and think it has a better trigger. Just my preference and I'm not a fan boy of either maker.
@shreddykrueger2408
@shreddykrueger2408 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed I prefer hks in general but I do like the shield plus more than the vp9sk and the p365
@JustxLiving909
@JustxLiving909 2 жыл бұрын
@@shreddykrueger2408 then you would love the Walter pdp compact 4
@yeahright2022
@yeahright2022 2 жыл бұрын
I have the shield plus performance center and it's a great little pistol.
@JimTempleman
@JimTempleman 2 жыл бұрын
I like that the Shield Plus has the same grip angle and contour as the M&P 9mm full-size (albeit narrower). This makes it easier to transition between the micro & full-size. I also like that the center of the trigger falls (a bit) below where the web of the hand goes, like most S&W pistols & revolvers.
@az_desert_hermit9507
@az_desert_hermit9507 2 жыл бұрын
I personally feel the 365X is the ideal pistol for me and the shape of my hands. The flat trigger is just right for me. Tried the shield plus and it did not feel comfortable to shoot.
@tyleranderson4317
@tyleranderson4317 2 жыл бұрын
Same here the 365x fit my hand like a glove
@gutyourtrust
@gutyourtrust 2 жыл бұрын
The XL grip is next level vs the 10-rounder. The Icarus module is a notch above that (Gen 3). Would love to try the Wilson Combat as well
@tcr2237
@tcr2237 2 жыл бұрын
Run the X with a 15 rnd’er most the time. Smaller frame dude. Firm grip and balance is awesome with the15 round Mag in the X! In my opinion.
@pillcosby3949
@pillcosby3949 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I love my 365x
@scaleworksRC
@scaleworksRC 2 жыл бұрын
I just traded up from a Ruger EC9S. The Ruger is a great gun for the money but I flinch with it and can't shoot it accurately. This gun is a whole other level.
@glennrishton5679
@glennrishton5679 2 жыл бұрын
My first 9 was a standard Performance Center Shield, ported barrel and fiber optic sights, and I love it.
@carlosaquiles99
@carlosaquiles99 2 жыл бұрын
I currently own and carry a P365. And have had that as one of my main EDC for almost 4 years now. No complaints. Now, before that my EDC was a Shield Performance Center (single stack). Both great guns. Nothing wrong with choosing one of these two. This was a great comparison. Thanks.
@user-df6lp8zw4g
@user-df6lp8zw4g 3 күн бұрын
I own the Shield Plus and love this gun. I think it is the ultimate concealed carry firearm. I like the Sig P365 too, but I hate the tiny grip on it. I still have a Sig p226 and P229 from way back. Great quality in Sig but that 365 grip is ridiculously small.
@spnfirearms
@spnfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Both guns seem like a great option. The shield feels better in my hand and has had zero reliability issues after roughly 850 rounds. Both great firearms tho!
@Aaron-ro4kv
@Aaron-ro4kv 8 ай бұрын
Love your channel spn!
@sartorialdriver6528
@sartorialdriver6528 2 жыл бұрын
S&W is having a $50 rebate on all shield models, the Shield Plus is being sold for $370 on some websites.
@douglassalley9117
@douglassalley9117 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wags1477 I just received the newsletter from S&W telling me about the rebate. That sounds real good for the performance center module.
@obeyt-raw4876
@obeyt-raw4876 2 жыл бұрын
Link?
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently it excludes 30 super carry models. Not that I’d ever buy a gun in that new caliber, but the fact that it’s excluded means there will be a significant number of people that may have considered purchasing a Shield Plus in that caliber, that now will just get 9mm instead.
@kingflo8283
@kingflo8283 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I paid 650 for my performance center model at my local gun shop. I definitely need to find somewhere online to buy guns
@El_Camionero
@El_Camionero 2 жыл бұрын
Smith is updating the triggers. They will all have the shield plus trigger and no one will buy a 2.0 style if given the choice. I will most likely buy one in 45 acp when it is available with the new trigger.
@iam_annamarie
@iam_annamarie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 4'11', 100 lbs. with a small stature and smaller hands. I have been eying the Sig P365 for a while now. Thanks to your video, I'm finally set on getting the P365! Size-wise, it fits perfectly in my hands (actually tried handling it at a gun shop). It's easier to conceal on my small body too. :)
@matthewhartup941
@matthewhartup941 Жыл бұрын
Solid choice. Can't go wrong with a Sig. Did you try out a Shield? My wife is 5'2 120, has small hands. She likes the grip angle of MP line and size of the shield.
@iam_annamarie
@iam_annamarie Жыл бұрын
@@matthewhartup941 I tried the Shield but I ended up getting the Sig P365X. I love how the grip fits in my hands😊
@socc6991
@socc6991 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned both. The Sig comes with night sights and is smaller than the the Shield Plus. I prefer the shield plus it's easier to shoot, mags are slightly cheaper. Not to mention I bought the P365 when it first came out and it had some FTE and light primer strike issues
@mmafanatic-tz5or
@mmafanatic-tz5or 2 жыл бұрын
There is a shield Plus with night sights
@scaleworksRC
@scaleworksRC 2 жыл бұрын
Try the X
@Nobody-xh5qe
@Nobody-xh5qe Жыл бұрын
@@mmafanatic-tz5or I just put some on mine
@unhingedhobbyist6722
@unhingedhobbyist6722 2 жыл бұрын
As an owner of the p365, I would go with the sig. However, I have never heard anything bad about the shield either. Either one is a good option. Another great video! Love your content.
@spnfirearms
@spnfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Jeff-mv4yy
@Jeff-mv4yy 2 жыл бұрын
@@spnfirearms As far as Chris' comments of the grip being too short for the 365 (with the 10 round mag, they do make a pinky extension.) I too wear XXL gloves. My answer to the short mag is use the 12 round. Problem solved. As far as recoil, I don't get it where guys are saying the 365 is "snappy" The first thing that impressed me about it was the recoil impulse was remarkably light and straight back. Perhaps the geometry of our hands or grips create different impressions. Those slacker sights on the SW are a deal breaker. Nonetheless, great video, balanced and fair
@tntrailrider7379
@tntrailrider7379 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jeff-mv4yy I agree, I bought mine with the tac pac and it came with three 12 round mags, no night sights on the shield plus standard was a deal breaker for me.
@gk5891
@gk5891 2 жыл бұрын
I would shoot both at a range were you can rent or borrow. You will find a wide range of difference in what you can grip well, shoot well and which you are more prone to creating shooter induced malfunctions. Me - .45 Shield Friend - 9mm Shield Plus Wife - Springfield Hellcat Twin Boys - 9mm Shield 1.0 (Apex Trigger and Stippling) Daughter - P365 I've been carrying a Shield Plus more lately but still feel more confident with the. 45. I have big mitts and the extra grip frame length front to rear (.45) really helps but the slight extra width on the Plus does make it roomier than the standard 9mm. The P365 is extremely cramped for me and I'm not at all confident it wouldn't lead to a poor grip and user induced malfunctions under stress. Yet I can handle an LCP .380 with zero issue, go figure.
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 2 жыл бұрын
I own both and love them both dearly.... But the shield is so much easier to shoot, especially when it comes to recoil control. When out with friends and family I always let them try both and no one has ever shot the Sig better than the shield.
@marvelousoppie7284
@marvelousoppie7284 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a 4 inch performance center shield plus. I absolutely love it
@EricT3769
@EricT3769 2 жыл бұрын
I love mine too, but when I first got it, I could only load 10 or 11 rounds into the 12-rnd mag by hand. I needed a mag loader to load the last round or two because it was so tight. And with 12 rounds in the mag, the slide was a bear to rack.
@marvelousoppie7284
@marvelousoppie7284 2 жыл бұрын
@@EricT3769 yea man I can only get 12 In my 13 rounder as well. Just gotta break that spring in!
@Hoodyhoo2121
@Hoodyhoo2121 2 жыл бұрын
I love the original Shield. I still carry a gen 1 every day. I'll upgrade to the Plus sometime I suppose.
@troytruong8246
@troytruong8246 Жыл бұрын
Do it now! Lol
@-_-_-_-318
@-_-_-_-318 2 жыл бұрын
P365X for me personally. Being 6'4 I need that extra grip (with magguts and hogue grip). Chris you need to get you a P365XL lower and swap it out and test this again!
@JerryLee..
@JerryLee.. 2 жыл бұрын
Same height, and started carrying a full size TP9 instead of the 365XL. 😎
@mig50cc
@mig50cc 2 жыл бұрын
@@JerryLee..
@JerryLee..
@JerryLee.. 2 жыл бұрын
@@mig50cc far from. Your feelings hurt charlie?
@krbmsw
@krbmsw 2 жыл бұрын
He did a review of the XL two years ago.
@-_-_-_-318
@-_-_-_-318 2 жыл бұрын
@@krbmsw the point is he should be comparing the P365X and the Shield+.... that's essentially what you get when you put an XL grip on a standard length p365 slide.
@abc-wv4in
@abc-wv4in 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparisons; thanks! Don't have a 365 but I love my Shield Plus. 10+1 and 13+1 mags in the box. I like the slightly larger grip and softer recoil of the Shield Plus. $50 rebate on Shields through mid-May 2022, too.
@IAMRUSTEDROOT
@IAMRUSTEDROOT 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I own the P365 and carry it daily. I found a GREAT deal on a Shield Plus, optics ready, plus five-13 round mags for $510. I'm thinking I need to get it. Especially with the 50 dollar rebate right now.
@rabbivj
@rabbivj 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the XL over the regular for the grip alone. the XL grip fits me perfectly.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting on this. I like the shield plus because it worked out of the box instead of the 1st batches of p365s. Never buy a first generation Sig lol.
@ahessent
@ahessent 2 жыл бұрын
1st gen Sigs are what all other companies would call beta test batches, lol. P.s. i love your vids on the 45 super
@CanikPlease
@CanikPlease 2 жыл бұрын
Never buy a first generation s&w. Look what they just did with the csx 🤦‍♂️ idk how wither company doesn't figure this shit out before putting them on the market
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
@@CanikPlease you're right not to mention the 10mm that can't handle heavy loads
@user-hp8wt1id9e
@user-hp8wt1id9e 9 ай бұрын
I researched pistols for concealed carry and the Shield Plus was in the top 3. As soon as I picked up the Shield Plus and felt it in my hands, I knew it was THE one. I love it!
@tonyn152
@tonyn152 5 ай бұрын
When I was looking to buy my first CCW, I read many reviews, watched many videos and spent many days at the range renting and test firing over 10 different popular carry pistols. It came down to both the P365 XL and the Shield Plus for the finals. On the last range trip I spent over an hour testing them both side by side shooting many rounds. While I really liked both of them, I ended up purchasing the Shield Plus for all the reasons you talk about in this video. The Shield Plus was more comfortable in my hand, it was more controllable, less snappy and I just shot better with it. I have been very happy with it for the past year.
@devo1785
@devo1785 2 жыл бұрын
As some one who loved the shield and got onboard with the Plus immediately, I've always thought about how small the P365 is in my hand; double edged sword...
@bldia1965
@bldia1965 2 жыл бұрын
After being a revolver guy for 30+ years, I purchased the Shield plus. Tried the 365, but the Shield seemed to fit my hands so much better, and the recoil seemed less with the Shield.
@thebenior
@thebenior 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, I've found the Shield 1.0 to be better under recoil than the P365XL, which I think is up to the grip angle. I was more consistent on the first round out of the holster with the flat trigger on the P365XL, which makes me think that I'd really like the Shield Plus.
@nostradamus7648
@nostradamus7648 2 жыл бұрын
Never been a revolver guy but am deciding between the Smith and Wesson 327 or Chiappa Rhino. Any suggestions?
@Freakyyshaad
@Freakyyshaad 2 жыл бұрын
You are by far my most favorite channel Chris ! Greatest shooter !! 💪🏽💪🏽
@TxHornyToad
@TxHornyToad 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite gun to shoot is the M&P 9. I bought a Shield 1.0 for under $300 when they were on sale just before the 2.0 came out. I found the grip a little too thin. I put a Hogue over grip on it and it feels much better. I bet the Shield Plus would feel good out of the box.
@someguynearseattle1985
@someguynearseattle1985 2 жыл бұрын
The Shield Plus needed a Hogue grip imo too. Felt like it was trying to jump out of my hand out of the box, even despite the 13 rd mag being used.
@TxHornyToad
@TxHornyToad 2 жыл бұрын
@@someguynearseattle1985 I just bought a shield plus and like the grip. A little thicker and a lot “grippier” due to the aggressive texture. Haven’t shot it yet tho. I bought the package with the extra magazines from Bud’s. I thought it was a good deal and now it is even $100 less.
@someguynearseattle1985
@someguynearseattle1985 2 жыл бұрын
@@TxHornyToad Nice! Enjoy! Curious what you think after firing it.
@jimelliott8438
@jimelliott8438 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I have large hands I'm really happy with the P365. It's so comfortable to carry appendix style inside the waistband and I love the night sights that it comes with. I had the original Shield and bought TruGlow TFX Pro sights and installed Apex trigger parts to get it to be acceptable. While the trigger may be better now I would still have to spend a couple hundred dollars for night sights and their installation. So that makes the Sig a better value. BTW. I'm fine with the Sig trigger and accuracy.
@mlrllama
@mlrllama 2 жыл бұрын
I only have trigger time behind the 365, but the Shield looks solid. Guess I'll have to have both...shucks...
@lostknowledge6403
@lostknowledge6403 10 ай бұрын
I love that you add a link to a charity, that in fact makes you the best on you tube,......+ your reviews are top notch
@moko1485
@moko1485 6 ай бұрын
I got my shield plus with night sights and optics ready for only 419 out the door. 5000 rounds through it no issues at all.
@waynestephens4102
@waynestephens4102 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the 365XL for EDC a couple years now. Can't imagine loving a carry gun anymore than this one. Great shooter, easy hide. Comfort is top shelf in both aspects. The 12 +1 and two mags at purchase helped make my decision but I truly love this gun. Had the Romeo Zero red dot on it for awhile but prefer the iron sights that are also fantastic. Thanks for the review! Cheers mate
@rjlewis8346
@rjlewis8346 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking to replace with my Glock 48 with the 365xl
@the_pineapples_2557
@the_pineapples_2557 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a video drop I like it immediately even if I can’t watch it right away. I know whenever I see the notification good content awaits. Love the channel!
@dankinsler1930
@dankinsler1930 Жыл бұрын
Shield plus $399.00 at Acadamy....P365 $499.00 and up. No brainer for me. Plus, the Shield has proven itself over time.
@bobbyb7127
@bobbyb7127 10 күн бұрын
Academy questions minutes from my house. Lol liking the shoe D plus.
@OnePieceWonPeace
@OnePieceWonPeace 2 жыл бұрын
Wifey (5`2``) & I (5`11``) just bought the Shield Plus (optics ready) and we love it.
@Hitsfromtheleft
@Hitsfromtheleft 2 жыл бұрын
Your insights have helped me buy many many guns and I’ve been happy with all of my choices. Thank you and keep doing what you do!
@JacksonWalter735
@JacksonWalter735 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video to start off the weekend. I'll personally go with the Shield Plus. The Shield Plus' ergonomics fit my hands better (P365's grip is way too small from the front to back of the grip), has a better trigger, better grip texture, fits most of my original Shield's accessories, and has less felt recoil for these snappy little pistols. I do recommend spending the extra $25-50 for the Optics Ready version even if you don't plan on using a red dot because that one comes with night sights. You also don't have to remove your rear sights and severely limit your optics options with a RomeoZero if you want to cowitness. The P365 does come with better sights by default, is smaller, comes with a case, and has the removable FCU modularity going on.
@ph00ny1
@ph00ny1 2 жыл бұрын
Wilson Combat grip module will fix the gripe with the grip. Also takes a minute to swap the grip module to longer XL/X grip module
@JacksonWalter735
@JacksonWalter735 2 жыл бұрын
@@xtreme4stringbass read what I said again. You're limited to the RomeoZero if you want to cowitness since the ones Sig sells have the rear sights built into them when you have to remove the rear sights to mount an optic on the P365x/xl. The different grip module is great but the size is still too small for me even with hogue grips. I heard the Wilson Combat grip module provides more bulk to fill out the hands better, but it doesn't really change the footprint of the grip as much lengthwise from front to back to fill out my hands more. The straight x trigger feels like it's more of a shape change since it still feels squishy to me before the trigger breaks (at least that's how it feels on the P365xl). I'd rather get an ArmoryCraft trigger and install that instead.
@JacksonWalter735
@JacksonWalter735 2 жыл бұрын
@@ph00ny1 I understand that but from what I can see the Wilson Combat grip module adds more size to the width of the grip than lengthwise from the front to back of it which is what I prefer instead for my larger hands. Even with the x/xl grip module that's almost the size of the Shield Plus' grip with the flush fit mag. The smaller size could be a benefit to others (more rounds in a more efficient design) but I can't really get as great of a grip purchase/full grip compared to the Shield Plus with its extended mag. That's just me though. If the P365 works for you then that's amazing.
@ph00ny1
@ph00ny1 2 жыл бұрын
@@JacksonWalter735 I just compared the two and WC grip module is wider and longer front to back. As for cowitnessing sights to optics, RomeoZeros aren't the only ones with rear notches and newer variants are all coming out with detached optics plate from the rear sight. If you're happy with the shields plus that's cool but just putting out the right information. Are you sure the shield plus grip with flush fit mag is same or longer than the XL/X grip? I was pretty certain it slotted right between 365 and 365XL/X in terms of grip length
@ph00ny1
@ph00ny1 2 жыл бұрын
@@xtreme4stringbass EPS carry will also cowitness once it gets released
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 2 жыл бұрын
Shot the Shield Plus (brother's) and my 365XL side-by-side at the range. Both fantastic firearms that you could not go wrong with. I have a 365 on order and will change out to a flat trigger - I really like that on my XL, as well as the X-series P320 that I own. This is the golden age of handguns. So many great choices and so much new technology.
@gus9376
@gus9376 Жыл бұрын
I have both and like both . Both guns have had no issues . I carry the shield more often but during the summer I pocket carry the p365 . If you can't decide , get both !
@TB-im1ci
@TB-im1ci 2 жыл бұрын
I got the original shield when it first came out and have loved it. I didn't feel the 2.0 was enough of an upgrade to purchase but got the plus whe. It came out. All the controls being the same and being able to use the holsters I already had was a huge plus. The original shield trigger never bothered me like it did most people. I had no issues being accurate with it and you don't need a match grade trigger in a gun you're go na use most likely at less than 15 feet. That said the plus trigger is very good. I like the review as always he points out the good and bad of both and doesn't get all fan boy over any 1 brand. I've shot the sig 364 and it is a good gun. Just the Smith feels better and shots better for me. People need to not get caught up in brand and find what works best for them amd then TRAIN with it
@jamiecollett8840
@jamiecollett8840 2 жыл бұрын
I own both of these and love them both. I like the Sig just a tad better. I love the modularity and the ability to swap grip frames. The stock sights are miles better than the Smith. I know I'm in the minority but I like the trigger better on the Sig also. I also shoot it a tad better than the Smith. I'd trust my life to either. I probably carry the Sig a bit more than the Smith but I do love both guns.
@JGarcia-uy7sq
@JGarcia-uy7sq 5 ай бұрын
Have you had any malfunctions with your 365?
@nearrlegend6741
@nearrlegend6741 2 жыл бұрын
Shield plus for me. Thanks Mr. & Mrs. Outlaw for your fine work!
@adventurfly879
@adventurfly879 Жыл бұрын
I have 3200 rounds on my 365 with ZERO malfunctions. Love that little gun. Had the slide milled for dot and absolutely trust my life with it.
@coupesix
@coupesix 2 жыл бұрын
As you stated they are both great carry pistols. I have them both in my carry rotation along with a few others. It all depends on what I’m doing to as which one I carry…as summer approaches and dress lighter I’ll grab the 365. Great review as always. I do favor the shield in the end.
@videogazer801
@videogazer801 2 жыл бұрын
Other than conceal ability factors, what would you say is your biggest reason for being able to shoot better with the Shield Plus than p365?
@sauerkrautjr
@sauerkrautjr 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Walther get their act together and put out a higher-capacity PPS. Until they do, I'm sticking with my P365 because I shoot it well. If it ain't broke...
@sauerkrautjr
@sauerkrautjr 2 жыл бұрын
@UCtcOr-fePvY9S7raW36p4tg YES, especially on the p30sk--I really want a DA/SA microcompact. Bringing back the P99c and making it smaller might be too much to ask haha
@evettsclaybones7741
@evettsclaybones7741 2 жыл бұрын
I can count on my p365 to go pow every day. There are a lot of good guns out there, but the p365 is my edc.
@sauerkrautjr
@sauerkrautjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@evettsclaybones7741 yep
@andyhenderson441
@andyhenderson441 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. If they could increase the capacity on the CCP M2 and lose the safety it would awesome.
@therynothedyno
@therynothedyno 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a little bit astonishing that they haven’t. I waited a while to buy the Shield Plus hoping that they would release a competitor, but at a certain point it just became silly to keep waiting.
@bobsmoot2392
@bobsmoot2392 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a Keltec P-11 in 1995. Polymer frame, 14oz, 10+1, 9mm. Long double action trigger. Absolutely reliable. Love the 365, but it started nothing. Change my mind.
@MDpolo
@MDpolo 2 жыл бұрын
Very valid points. Even with my medium sized hands, I never felt quite comfortable with the P365. I trained with it quite a bit, but I never felt that I could get a good grip under stress. That’s why I got rid of it. Thank you very much for the video!
@JacksonWalter735
@JacksonWalter735 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. It's nice to see you here as well
@MDpolo
@MDpolo 2 жыл бұрын
@@JacksonWalter735 thank you!
@HaroldTheSloth
@HaroldTheSloth 2 жыл бұрын
I still consider my 1st-gen Shield to be the smartest handgun purchase I ever made. Accurate enough, completely reliable, and small enough to hide anywhere, anytime. I recently bought a Sig P320 and was completely impressed with it, so I do not doubt the P365s are quality as well. Ultimately it depends on your body contour, hand size, method of carry, and how well you shoot with it.
@steveoATL6
@steveoATL6 Жыл бұрын
Same here I’ve been carrying mine everyday for about a year now, have put well over 1000 rounds through and the only malfunction I have had was due to a third-party magazine extension (it just didn’t lock the slide back on last shot). That’s literally the only problem I have had with it though, I’ll keep carrying it for years to come.
@NoiseBombS14
@NoiseBombS14 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, neither of these is the wrong choice: I have the Shield, my best friend has the 365. In reality neither is a bad choice, and it’s really just down to preference on how it fits in your hand
@Old_Sailor85
@Old_Sailor85 9 ай бұрын
Still carrying the original Shield with the hinged trigger. Had it for quite a few years. No failures and mine has a good trigger (they all did not). Finally got a holster I can live with. A Milt Sparks Summer Special II.
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 9 ай бұрын
Same original Shield but considering the plus
@cliffleath7983
@cliffleath7983 Жыл бұрын
Shield Plus for me. I had the Shield 2.0 for awhile and then purchased the Shield Plus when it came out and put night sights on it. Great shooter with little recoil for the side.
@chrisbangs2657
@chrisbangs2657 10 ай бұрын
I bought Shield Plus based on your videos and love it as my EDC THANK YOU
@richardefriend
@richardefriend 2 жыл бұрын
The Sig P365X (as opposed to the 'regular' P365"), with a Magguts +2, is the smallest 14+1 9mm you can get, and with the 'X' grip, it's the perfect size for larger hands (and since it's not broken up as with the P365 and the 12 rounder, it's a much more solid grip, with no chance to pinch your hand with a quick reload). And it still works perfectly for pocket carry, despite being 14+1 (since the Magguts kit only adds 1/8" of additional height). Also, with Underwood's 90 gr. (or 68 gr.) +P Xtreme Defender ammo, a lot of that snappiness is eliminated, and in return you have a better EDC that doesn't have the uncertainty of proper JHP expansion because of the tiny barrel it sports, but does have the ability to consistently achieve deep penetration (without over-penetration) and make a very large wound channel when it counts. I understand your concern with long range accuracy and the triggers, but since this (and the Shield Plus) is intended for EDC and up close personal protection, I think they're really non-issues here (especially with the P365X's flat trigger). For in-home protection, there's a plethora of much better weapons. But for EDC pocket carry, the P365X is unrivaled by ANYTHING on the market today.
@won8135
@won8135 Жыл бұрын
Diamondback db4 is considerably smaller and a true pocket 9. The only 1.
@DougMcDave
@DougMcDave 3 ай бұрын
I recently got a used Shield Plus. The gun shop staff member got a CZ P10 C. The extra mags sold me on getting it used. I rented one that day. The trigger and grip were fantastic!
@livefreeprintguns
@livefreeprintguns Жыл бұрын
I still carry my standard M&P shield .40c as my EDC. I love it so much.
@stephenwilder2320
@stephenwilder2320 Жыл бұрын
I really love my p365 but mostly for the modularity. Held a ported shield plus performance center the other day and loved they way it felt. One thing I really like is that the whole grip was textured allowing your off hand to have a little grip. I believe the oval shape of the shield also made the grip feel smaller but more comfortable in my hand. Def going to be my next toy!
@larryborn1082
@larryborn1082 2 жыл бұрын
For a better comparison all around this should have been between the S+ and a 365X or XL......much closer in size, better trigger and both of those are standard optics ready.
@PreppinShootinLivin
@PreppinShootinLivin 2 жыл бұрын
The trigger in the standard P365 and the XL is different?
@larryborn1082
@larryborn1082 2 жыл бұрын
@@PreppinShootinLivin yes
@-_-_-_-318
@-_-_-_-318 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@PreppinShootinLivin
@PreppinShootinLivin 2 жыл бұрын
@@larryborn1082 Good to know. Thanks
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith 2 жыл бұрын
@@PreppinShootinLivin Just the trigger shoe is flat on the XL. Otherwise the same.
@Whendaddycooks
@Whendaddycooks 2 жыл бұрын
I actually got to shoot both of these pistols last summer at PSA in Savannah. I found the Sig more comfortable to shoot but only because my brother in law added a pedal to his P365 to make it easier for his wife to handle. The M&P Shield I rented also had a lot of wear and tear so I’m sure that made a difference. Thanks for the great comparison.
@johnkhan9991
@johnkhan9991 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered my shield plus. I was contemplating P365 but after watching your review. I can't wait to shoot few rounds and start carrying my shield plus. Thank you again for a great side by side review.
@Jason_The_Man
@Jason_The_Man 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review! I can’t imagine a more fair assessment of the two. I’m a diehard Sig guy and will likely get a P365, but I think I’ll carry the S&W. I like to keep my full size handgun and my compact carry of the same manufacture and I favor a 5”M&P over the Sig P320.
@Fubar231
@Fubar231 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 365xl with the Romeo zero red dot and a shield plus. I like the sig more but I have been carrying the shield lately. The red dot makes the 365xl a little obnoxious to draw, but the shield plus not coming with Night sights is wack.
@arrondentinger2086
@arrondentinger2086 2 жыл бұрын
When looking for a concealed carry pistol I shot these two, along with the Glock 43x and the Hellcat. I went in thinking that I would choose the Sig, but ended up liking it the least. It just wasn't comfortable in my hand and I shot the worst group with it by far. It ended up being between the S&W and the Hellcat. Ultimately I chose the Hellcat because it just had a more "solid" feel to it. It's interesting how different people like different guns. For example, tons of people love the 365, but personally I hated it.
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Hellcat and switched to the S&W I shot better groups and less recoil
@arrondentinger2086
@arrondentinger2086 2 жыл бұрын
@@Illness.og. I would agree that the Hellcat is more snappy than the S&W but not enough that it makes a huge difference. I can shoot tight groups with either gun. But like I said, it came down to feel and I liked how the Hellcat felt better.
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. 2 жыл бұрын
@@arrondentinger2086 I felt the recoil on the smith and Wesson was a night and day difference. I shot my Hellcat almost daily, hell my girl even did too. End of the day our hands would be tingly or in pain. The shield was just far more better for us, that’s my opinion.
@MtnMan-ny6vu
@MtnMan-ny6vu 2 жыл бұрын
These vids on the S&W M&P Shield Plus pretty much sold me on that thing. Super impressed with the long range shooting on the S&W M&P Shield Plus video review you did. Solid stuff.
@coalgunsandfreedom6891
@coalgunsandfreedom6891 10 ай бұрын
I know I know…year old video etc. Just sold my 365 and got the shield plus. The 365 was very reliable, but accuracy all over the place even after 1000 rounds. I’m not a great shot, but I’m not as bad as the 365 groupings would indicate. Shield groupings are much much better.
@1swellfella
@1swellfella 2 жыл бұрын
Always thought there were better options than the shield when micros were primarily single stacks. Jumped on the 365 when it came out and loved it. Got the 365x grip module and swapped that out and loved it even more. Then the shield plus came out and once I held it, it was game over for the 365. Scooped up the plus and brought them both to the range and that’s all she wrote. Traded off the 365 for another .22lr range toy and now I carry the shield plus. I shoot it better and it’s more comfortable. No ragretz.
@videogazer801
@videogazer801 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have large sized hands? Is that why it helps with the Shield Plus over the p365?
@1swellfella
@1swellfella 2 жыл бұрын
@@videogazer801 I’d say average size hands. Personally, I thought it felt better in hand, less recoil, more accurate, and was just overall more impressed. Seems to conceal just as easy too.
@nonyabiz9487
@nonyabiz9487 2 жыл бұрын
Shield Plus all day everyday! Had the SIg 365 but had to many malfunctions were I raged quit on it sold it and never looked back again. Interesting to note I never had a malfunction with any S&W firearms Ive had in the past and present.
@jessicar1230
@jessicar1230 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I specifically asked for this vs review! Thanks for following up. I did however find both to be too small for my giant hand/frame and went with the PDP! And love it! Thanks again!
@richardoliver1468
@richardoliver1468 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great side by side comparison. I appreciate how you always leave political issues out of your reviews and for providing a honest, non-biased opinion. I was looking at the 365 XL with the included red dot against the Shield 9 Plus Performance Center 4" with the red dot. Based on overall size and feel, I went with the Shield. The only issue I have with the Shield is the lack of availability of additional magazines. My issue with Sig is the price they charge for their magazines. All in All, it could be worse. :) Both you and your wife are good shooters. Do you both compete in USPSA or IDPA??
@bjs301
@bjs301 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I just commented how S&W should come out with a longer barrel Shield Plus. I'll have to go look at the Performance Center 4" version. Thanks.
@jh6269
@jh6269 2 жыл бұрын
I know I had issues getting magazines for the Shield Plus to begin with but recently just called S&W and was able to put in an order on the phone for more magazines
@DA-rm5bh
@DA-rm5bh 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Too many of the former reviewers mistakenly feel they know all the answers to every issue on the planet and lecture everyone on everything, and their hypocrisy and for-profit patriotism makes me vomit. Add to that the lack of integrity and getting paid by the manufacturers and Leviathan of their "reviews" (see Mrgunsnshill and MAC) and I'm down to 6 subscriptions on KZfaq.
@bjs301
@bjs301 2 жыл бұрын
@@DA-rm5bh I've unsubscribed from many of those guys when their reviews turned into commercials.
@graymann7762
@graymann7762 2 жыл бұрын
Democrats always hate hearing about politics when it effects REALITY. Y'all just keep voting like idiots. 🤣
@jamesmorrison7847
@jamesmorrison7847 2 жыл бұрын
A few key points to consider: The Sig has a rail for lasers and lights while the Shield+ does not. If you don't like a safety dingus on your trigger, then you won't like the Shield+. Since I personally have big hands, I EDC the Sig with the 12 round mag to get a full grip. In 2 years of being my carry gun, I did modify the mags with Magguts Inc. plus 2 kits to bump them up to a 14 plus 1 set up. The Sig is MODULAR , so you can change the frame in a couple of minutes to an XL size, or just for looks alone from many sources, including Sig themselves, but the Shield+ is NOT MODULAR, so that's not an option for those of you who like to upgrade or improve your guns.
@RB-vt9ku
@RB-vt9ku Жыл бұрын
Just did get my shield plus came with night sights plus a rebate for three extra magazines.
@jmack2010
@jmack2010 2 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded from a Shield to a 365XL. Me and my gf both had Shields and we both had the same issue, even though her's is a 2.0 and mine was the original. They kept false resetting. It would click like it reset but it actually didn't. There's 2 clicks that feel identical right on top of each other. You had to go to the 2nd click to actually get it to reset. I don't regret going to a 365XL at all.
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 2 жыл бұрын
The P365 is a little gun that really shoots like a bigger gun. It's easy to make hits farther away than a small handgun is normally able to. The Shield + is very nice for shooting but it doesn't conceal quite as well as the P365. For me the Shield + is just a little too big for pocket carry. The best option is to buy them both.
@SKULLHUNTOR
@SKULLHUNTOR Жыл бұрын
lol … I do have both …. sort of …. 9mm Shield and a Sig 938 9mm … my 380 is a Bodyguard with I hate the trigger pull but love the size
@BlueMoon-dn2jd
@BlueMoon-dn2jd Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I own both and note that the Shield Plus with 10rd mag is the identical height as the P365 with the 12 rd magazine. I like the P365's 2 extra rounds, and it pocket carries ok in most pants for me.
@michaelschaffer9165
@michaelschaffer9165 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Shield Plus is my favorite too. Just something about the way it feels and shoots. It just feels right and it shoots great. I carried the older model Shields for years before. The Shield and I have a history. The older ones were narrow gripped with a so so trigger. The Plus is exactly the way I want a small carry 9 to be. Smith got it exactly right.
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 2 жыл бұрын
My mother actually went out and purchased a shield plus because of you! She's a huge fan.
@mattbudzyn6091
@mattbudzyn6091 Жыл бұрын
I have learned quite a bit from your videos. I appreciate your professionalism and friendly presentations.
@non-binaryunicorn5302
@non-binaryunicorn5302 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, how about hellcat pro vs 365xl? It seems like Springfield copied dimensions of the xl and fit 3 more rounds. Curious on shoot ability and point ability. Thanks man
@jimhartzell5092
@jimhartzell5092 2 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff Outlaw !! But doesn't the 365 have the chassis that comes out and you can make it your way within the family of 365?? If so, this would be a Large Plus wouldn't it???
@13BGunBunny
@13BGunBunny Жыл бұрын
I have an optics ready S&W Performance Center M&P9 Shield Plus with a 4" barrel and the Crimson Trace optics. I took the optics off until I get more range time with it. It is my preferred CC firearm and I use 124gr JHP (same as my local PD) in a 10+1 for my EDC ammo.
@alishaheed2333
@alishaheed2333 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the plus on a whim, after watching a few reviews. So glad I did. It fits, is comfortable, reliable, and if I needed it to, fit in my front pocket. Unfortunately for me, wifey loved it also. Yall already know what happened next, lolol. She got me a 19x for our anniversary, so I didn't mind letting her have it.
@Megames2012
@Megames2012 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the GX4. Not very many rounds through it (less than 1K), but so far I've had zero issues and the accuracy has a been impressive; hitting a 10 inch plate at 50 yards and a 8 inch plate at 40 yards. How do these compare to the GX4?
@mattr918
@mattr918 2 жыл бұрын
I checked a gx4 out at the store and was pretty impressed. If it had another manufacturers name on the gun I bet they sales would double or triple.
@Megames2012
@Megames2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattr918 Exactly. People still believe Taurus is garbage, yet those some people conveniently forget Glocks use to explode. SMH
@jamesm2881
@jamesm2881 2 жыл бұрын
I think the sig 365xl vs the shield plus is a better versus because of size.
@JacksonWalter735
@JacksonWalter735 2 жыл бұрын
A P365xl vs the 4" Performance Center Shield Plus would be a great video if he had them in his collection
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one. I just made almost the same comment
@chivalryremains9426
@chivalryremains9426 Жыл бұрын
I've owned 2 P365 variants. Both green dots on the front were DIM in daylight. I also have a Hellcat with a BRIGHT yellow dot on the front. Massively brighter than the Sig. Sig said they wouldn't do anything b/c it's the same way it came from the factory. Traded both P365s for a Shield Plus with extra mags, holsters, and practice ammo.
@randallbowman7899
@randallbowman7899 Жыл бұрын
I owned the Sig 365,but after shooting the shield plus I got rid of the sig. The grip on the Shield plus just fit my hands better. Carried the shield until I got the Iwi Masada slim. The shield and Masada Slim is in my carry rotation
@hillsman9199
@hillsman9199 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how KZfaq hits me with two un-skippable fifteen seconds ads that you won't even be able to make money from...
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 2 жыл бұрын
The Sig and M&P pistols are good pistols, but the latest Hellcat Pro seems like the best fit and size. It’s the perfect slim sized pistol yet ideally suited for appendix carry because of its longer slide and slightly larger grip for better recoil control. I have to admit that I never got the micro nine bug but the Hellcat Pro seems very appealing to me. Curious to see how it will compare in an Honest Outlaw review.
@jpb1231000
@jpb1231000 4 ай бұрын
My Hogue 'Hand All" grip from my Ruger LC9S popped in my head when you said "thin" grip for the Sig... Fit GREAT on my 365X!!!
@Kaleb.R
@Kaleb.R 2 жыл бұрын
I went from daily carrying a Walther PPX (full sized) to a Shield Plus about a year ago, oh my, so much more comfortable. Night and day difference, also feels great to shoot for a micro 9. Trigger is great as well
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the xl. Match up with the shield+ a bit better more apples to apples?
@evettsclaybones7741
@evettsclaybones7741 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@jagpilotohio
@jagpilotohio 2 жыл бұрын
I have never hated a stock grip more than the shield plus. The shape was an immediate turn off for me.
@videogazer801
@videogazer801 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the handle and grip of the Shield is cheap
@WithTheBears
@WithTheBears 2 жыл бұрын
The 365XL was my first handgun and I couldn't have been happier with the purchase. Haven't felt the need to buy or search out any other carry guns. Now I just chase full size home defense guns
@future_phonk
@future_phonk 6 ай бұрын
Kel Tec P11 really was ahead of their time. Unfortunately they never took off like the 365 and shield plus.
@jgH3T
@jgH3T Ай бұрын
Used 1 for years as my EDC & loved it, they had 12rnd flush mags & could use S&W 5900 full size ones. Most people didn't like the heavy DAO trigger & Keltec was hit or miss on quality control
@marchanson5935
@marchanson5935 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been tempted by the shield plus but I had a first gen performance center. I loved it and it was absolutely accurate and reliable. However, I was gifted a 2.0 4” compact by my wife for a birthday a few years back. I haven’t carried the shield since. For me, 6’2” 215, I prefer to carry OWB.
@rooster-zg4oo
@rooster-zg4oo 6 ай бұрын
Just sold my gen 1 shield to buy the shield plus. Had the gen 1 since 2014 daily carry. Rarely cleaned..never malfunctioned.
@billvilla7799
@billvilla7799 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! The only polymer gun I carry at this point is the P365...and it is a pocket gun for the times in the summer when I am in shorts and tee shirt. The rest of the time it will be a compact semi auto of revolver. I find that the savings in weight isn't enough to give up the feel of a heavier gun...the are smoother shooting and are back on target faster. The gun I choose will depend on where I am going and what I am doing.
@ryangabriel7808
@ryangabriel7808 2 жыл бұрын
I tried the Shield Plus at the range to compare with the Sig 365X. Later that day I went to our LGS and bought the Shield Plus coz it just felt right in my hands than the Sig did. Shootability, can't go wrong with either. The $50 rebate came pretty quick also.
@FBGCUZZO
@FBGCUZZO Жыл бұрын
Should have bought the bigger mag for the sig it would have changed your mind on the gripping of the gun
@michaelmichael8406
@michaelmichael8406 2 жыл бұрын
At least according to the published stats, the Keltec P11 is the same size as the P365, with a double stack 10 round magazine, and was out in the mid-90s. I carried one for years. The trigger was awful, and it was unpleasant to shoot it you don't have built in recoil pads, but it worked.
@finalcountdown7658
@finalcountdown7658 2 жыл бұрын
I just brought that point up on another video where someone commented that Sig was the first.
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