M&P Shield Plus vs SIG P365 XL

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2 жыл бұрын

Comparing two very popular 9mm defensive pistols on today's market, the M&P Shield Plus from Smith & Wesson and the SIG P365 XL. Both of these are very good choices, in my opinion.
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@thefirespectrum 2 жыл бұрын

I carry a P365XL but my fiance carries a Shield Plus. We've decided to go forward with the wedding and make it work.

@jordaan1336 2 жыл бұрын

Still married?

@josephedwards3373 2 жыл бұрын

At least one is a smith and Wesson and not a glock

@daviddoughty4289 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣

@thefirespectrum 2 жыл бұрын

@@jordaan1336 Yep, officially hitched now. You work through it

@CountArtha 2 жыл бұрын

"But what will your kids even look like?"

@mikeharvey9184 2 жыл бұрын

Can we all just stop for a minute and appreciate the state of the industry, that a few years ago, a gun like the P365 was a pipe dream? Now, not only are there multiple variants of it, but it has serious competition from multiple gun manufacturers?

@ExtremeSquared 2 жыл бұрын

I don't feel like a double-stack polymer 9mm has been made in the past 40 years that significantly stands out from the rest. I have my own preferences and other people have theirs, but trading my preferred double-stack 9mms with any other of the hundreds of other options out there would have a minimal impact. I appreciate your exuberance, but isn't the exact opposite true?

@mikeharvey9184 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExtremeSquared But has there been a polymer double stack in the last 50 years the size of this current crop of micro-compacts? I've owned a couple, and they were substantially chunkier than this current line of offerings. The G26 and G19 is noticeably thicker than the G43/43x/48 (with Shield magazines), the M&P's are noticeably thicker than Shield Plus, and my P320 with a subcompact module is still quite a bit thicker than the P365. There simply hasn't been anything this small with this much capacity before.

@ExtremeSquared 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeharvey9184 It is cool engineering. But a 10% reduction in thickness versus comparable pistols is as niche of a feature as another pistol's 10% better trigger to most people. People get extremely hung up on the tail of the logarithmic gains curve for a lot of products, where there is just so little real world difference to be found fretting over minor differences.

@gutyourtrust 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExtremeSquared I think he is referring more to the 40% capacity increase from Shield to Shield Plus

@bltoth1955 2 жыл бұрын

That’s all well and good if you are willing to bet your life on them.

@lycosa2000 Ай бұрын

I think my OCD took a hit when he put those in his pocket and the camera didn't pan out so you could see how it fit. 🤣 Seriously though, I love the content Hickok puts out. I lost my dad a year ago and he reminds me an awful lot of him. When I watch these videos it makes me smile. Just a good guy doing good guy things. God bless you, Hickok.

@CHESTURCH 2 жыл бұрын

Take a minute to realize how fortunate we are to have hickok45 on video shooting so many different guns. Clint eastwood has nothing on you hickok.

@deluth4638 2 жыл бұрын

Right? Can you imaging having 19th century videos of Wild Bill with his revolvers? What a dream!

@wifebeater69 2 жыл бұрын

This man shoots more accurately with a micro-compact handgun than me with a rifle... really goes to show his experience with age

@bobroberson9286 2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather who saw Jessie James made the statement that he was more accurate with his pistol than most folks shooting a rifle, true story ,🔫

@Brett4517 Жыл бұрын

@Robert It does, but I would almost guarantee you this man shot a lot before his sponsors. It is possible to become a great shooter without shooting tons of rounds.

@jimmurschel855 Жыл бұрын

The whole reason I watch this channel is to hear him to hit the gong.

@Ryan2022 Жыл бұрын

He is insane with revolvers too

@dwightcurrie8316 Жыл бұрын

Hickock can shoot the headlights out of a Hummingbird no matter where the Hummingbird is, from wherever he's standing & I wouldn't bet he can't do it with either hand, in a strong Rain/Snow/Wind Storm, with the Flu

@rainmannoodles 2 жыл бұрын

0:17 "Twinkle, twinkle, little star..." He's LITERALLY playing music on the targets now. 🤣

@Paparazzi4hire 5 ай бұрын

Hahahaha

@truckpilot01 3 ай бұрын

😂

@1911bg 2 жыл бұрын

Sold my 365 and bought a Shield Plus after seeing it. For me it was the right choice.

@connorsurgeon8976 2 жыл бұрын

I recently purchased a shield after considering these and had began to question my decision after hearing Hitchcock say he prefers the sig... until I saw that light primer strike confidence restored lol.

@thomthompson9217 Жыл бұрын

Yup…I went all Gucci with my shield 1.0(Blacklist barrel, Apex trigger, TFO sights etc). So after the fiasco with the P320 and witnessing more than one light primer strikes on a side arm that’s designed to save your life I’ll definitely pass.

@marcusjackson271 2 жыл бұрын

I watch videos like this and when Hickok talks about pocket carrying a p365xl, I'm reminded of what a giant human this man is. There's no way I could comfortably carry my xl in my pocket...

@LX-410 2 жыл бұрын

I hear the Cardinal in the background, Great Audio. You're input on fire arms and skills with them are second to none ☺️

@charlesj.6563 2 жыл бұрын

I own the 365XL and it is a very nice pistol. However, I prefer the Shield Plus Performance Center 4” model. I own or have owned the 2.0 Shield Performance Center 4” pistols in 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP and now I carry the Shield Plus Performance Center 4”. All of the Shields have been extremely reliable and easy to shoot well.

@Terreos 2 жыл бұрын

What I love about hickok45 is he doesn’t have the whole “best something something” mentality. He gives every firearm a fair shot and gives you a very honest opinion. That’s rare these days and I’m glad we have someone like him letting the guns do most of the talking.

@wellington400 2 жыл бұрын

I've appendix carried the P365 For the last 2 years. Recently got the XL grip module and the 15rd mag. The bigger grip and mag extension gave me enough room to wrap my whole hand around it fingers included. Great firearm with over 2000 rounds fired and still going strong.

@scottc7031 2 жыл бұрын

One of the reasons I enjoy this man (and a few others) so much is the balance that he provides in these evaluations. It's clear which gun he personally prefers, but acknowledges the reasons you might choose either one. He does not attempt to pick an obvious winner, and there really isn't one, as there are several different applications for the guns, and many variables in what personally matters to us, how we are physically built, etc. Both guns have major followings, for good reason. Really nice to always come here for some maturity, with all of the hyperbolic nonsense and extreme opinions out there. I appreciate it. Personally, I have the XL and it feels better in my hand, but my brother loves his Shield Plus.

@Mike-hn4uu 6 ай бұрын

He just absolutely loves GUNS like I do which is why I appreciate him too. I’ve never been a fan boy either, I want to shoot everything and I enjoy them all - which he certainly does too

@lifeonmars03 2 жыл бұрын

Love my shield plus with fiber optics. I swap it in & out with my bp9cc & taurus 856 ul. The Plus feels SO good in hand.

@AJ-gk7bn 2 жыл бұрын

Can already imagine how polarized this comment section will be but at the end of the day I don’t care what anyone says, BOTH of these two guns are the top 2 best micro 9 guns out there. Which one you prefer is just preference at the end of the day. The 365 was a game changer and although many manufacturers have made great attempts to replicate it the shield plus is the only one that’s come close to dethroning it. Personally I prefer the shield plus simply because I already have owned previous shields and compatibility with holsters was a no brainer. I am also amittedly a pretty big fanboy of Smith & Wesson. But when a good buddy of mine went to buy his first handgun last year I pointed him directly at the p365 because it is a phenomenal handgun of equal quality. Can’t go wrong with either and we should be grateful we live in such an awesome time for the conceal carry world.

@XrayMike17plus1 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a couple XL's, one stock and one upgraded a bit. If you own an XL and you're wishing the grip was more robust check into the Wilson Combat grip modules with improved texture and slightly beefier grip circumference. They can also be used with Wilson's tungsten weight set which slides into the grip just behind the magazine and improves overall balance. Makes the XL feel and shoot like a slightly larger gun but keeps that narrow profile and all the concealed carry goodness.

@provemewrongthen 2 жыл бұрын

The silence and pause of shame that happened at 15:50 killed me lol!!!

@SilverBritches 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve narrowed down my search to these two. After watching your video I think you’re right. I need to try both. Thanks brother!

@drumskentala 2 жыл бұрын

I shot both and have slightly smaller hands. The Shield Plus felt better in my hands, less snappy than the p365/XL. I really had my eyes on the p365 but it just goes to show you have to shoot them before buying! Great options either way.

@KP-ty9yl 10 ай бұрын

I had the opportunity to shoot the P365XL and Shield Plus side by side and went with the Shield Plus. I don't like the narrow but long grip feel... but the better trigger and lesser recoil of the Shield Plus really sold it for me

@michaeljordan6090 10 ай бұрын

I agree

@RanTausi 9 ай бұрын

@@KP-ty9yl Hi ,Have you checked or maybe compared the shield plus with its 13 rd mag vs Hellcat pro ? it looks like they are the same size by hair and the only difference is the barrel 3.1 vs 3.7 inch and you get more comfort on the Hellcat pro 15 rd mag flat on the grip

@rob6850 7 ай бұрын

@@RanTausithen might as well carry a $300 P10C and get the 4" barrel, 15+1, with 17, 19, or 21 rd backup mags

@diesel961 7 ай бұрын

I was in between both and went with the shield plus... The moment I shot the first 5rounds I was in love

@bltoth1955 2 жыл бұрын

Early 365’s were notorious for weak/light Strikers. The fix was made somewhere around 2019-2020. Mine was purchased in 2021 and has no problems.

@paulmoss7940 2 жыл бұрын

An those Xray nite sights !

@Christian-fg3we 2 жыл бұрын

Ive been carrying the Sig P365XL for a couple years now. Have a Holosun 507k, TLR7 Sub, and talon grips on it and it is my absolute perfect conceal carry weapon. I have thousands of rounds through mine and i have not had a single malfunction of any kind.

@adamz0037 2 жыл бұрын

IWB carry?

@Christian-fg3we 2 жыл бұрын

@@adamz0037 yes, AIWB. And I now have the Wilson Combat frame on it

@aliaswave 2 жыл бұрын

I loved how the shield felt and I carried for a couple years but it wasn't a good gun sight wise. I sold it got the P365 and loved it so much I bought 2nd.

@josh48315 2 жыл бұрын

This is what I’ve been saying for years asking for someone to compare these FINALLY

@Version135 2 жыл бұрын

The 365xl for me is carry perfection. I can't imagine switching at this point.

@paulmoss7940 2 жыл бұрын

agree

@fettmaneiii4439 2 жыл бұрын

only critique I have of the XL is the magwell flares out at the end of the grip, and so the normal P365 is just more concealable. I dont need a magwell, i wish the 3645XL didnt have it, but love the gun anyways!

@slangingiron4016 2 жыл бұрын

@@fettmaneiii4439 flared mag well it so small definitely doesn’t affect concealment at all

@robertharing7031 2 жыл бұрын

I added a Hogue handgrip and with my zero on top my xl is always on my person during waking hours

@drakke125Channel 2 жыл бұрын

the grip is just perfection with decent aggressive texture, its got a nice long barrel/slide and best mag capacity for its compact size, and its from a german company I believe? Great quality too. Hard to beat that. S&W revolver or S&W MP Shield 2.0 would be my backup or sidearm in the future maybe. So far P365 XL has been my carry buddy for a little over a year now.

@eggr1ce374 2 жыл бұрын

P365x has become the standard for me on being shootable/concealable. 12 rounds flush with that 3.1 inch barrel is perfect 🤌.

@blankblank5333 2 жыл бұрын

I bought an M&P shield plus last summer and an very happy with it. Got almost 500 rounds through it and it carries great 😃👍

@terryschiller2625 2 жыл бұрын

It was nice to view this video in the summer. As I'm watching this it's 35degrees outside cloudy and about 4-5inches of snow still on the ground here in East Tennessee. Warmed me up Mr Hickok 45 Sir thank you!🙂

@davidwashingtoncontendingf1862 2 жыл бұрын

Good evening my brother in arms! I was watching other videos about the Sig P365 and they had the same issue with light primer strikes. The "Fire Army Guy" did a gauntlet test with this gun, but before they started he just did some random shots with the Sig along with the other guns he was testing and the Sig had numerous light primer strikes. Just FYI! Keep up the great work, I have learned so much! Have a blessed day!

@tommyellisonjr6849 2 жыл бұрын

Not only do I admire Hickok collection of fine weaponry but more than that I admire his never ending pot of gold....I have to acquire one of those....

@007Chancellor Жыл бұрын

Love, LOVE my P365X - with the Wilson Combat grip module. Carry perfection! Through a couple thousand rounds, it has performed perfectly.

@MrLeram12 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed your time with Tucker.

@whatwas44 2 жыл бұрын

I've been trying to decide between the Shield and P365XL for months. I've put 50 rounds through both on rentals. I found XL is more comfortable for someone who had "smaller" hands like myself.

@tomrod2569 2 жыл бұрын

The performance center variant of the shield plus has one of the best striker fire triggers and resets on any striker fire gun ive ever used. Not just micro pistols. Any striker fire... it is an amazing gun

@codyallen2838 2 жыл бұрын

The Walther PPQ and PDP take that for me. They're unbelievable.

@unclecracker5010 2 жыл бұрын

@@codyallen2838 I LOVE MY PDP!!!! ITS A TACK DRIVER.

@J.Wick. 2 жыл бұрын

@@codyallen2838 that PDP may be my next one. man I like that one.

@brooktech7869 Жыл бұрын

@@codyallen2838 It is not even a debate, Walther's PDP triggers are unmatched by anyone right now it is the best, but too big to carry for me.

@toobalicious 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t rent with one in my area, so I bought both. The P365XL fit my hand best, had NO malfunctions in about 1,000 rds, and is my keeper (I did add the Wilson Combat grip module). The other was sold immediately because it’s also a good and desirable firearm - just didn’t feel as good for me. We live in a great time for small pistols…. .

@christoney2491 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the XL, then replaced the grip module with a standard p365 grip module. I can now use 10 or 12 round magazines, and share them all with my P356 - yep, I have one of those also. The advantage is interchangeability and smaller size for pocket carry. 💯

@scottamy6496 2 жыл бұрын

I carried the original Shield for a long time, then came the P365 and the Hellcat shortly after and between those two I chose the Hellcat just because it fit me better. Then Sig came out with the P365X and it changed everything for me, I love the longer grip of the P365X vs the original P365, plus it's optic cut and has the fantastic flat faced trigger. I've updated my P365X with the Wilson Combat grip module and the Magguts kits with their awesome baseplate which fits perfectly with the Wilson Combat grip module and it adds 2 more rounds bringing my capacity to 14+1 which is Glock 19 territory! I am very very happy with my P365X mounted with the Holosun 407k and I think I've made it the perfect carry gun for me.

@cosmicabyss7358 4 ай бұрын

This is where I'm at I get my Hellcat on the 27th of this month but my local gun store just got in the P365X and It felt so good in my hand I'm seriously considering canceling the Hellcat purchase for the P365X. Not sure still but I really liked the feel of the P365X I'm really on the fence......... Part of me wants to just stick with the Hellcat since its easier to conceal and I already bought gear for it. I'm really torn between the two guns.

@lindanelson8400 2 жыл бұрын

That's the one thing I've always liked about Glock pistols, never had a failure with any of them. That's all I carry because I'm betting my life it's going to go bang when I pull the trigger. I used to carry the 19, or 26 all the time, the 19 will always be my favorite. These days I have a 43, and a 48. Gives me lots of options. I can make four pistols out of those two by switching the slides and frames, then add in the shield arms 15 round magazines and you've really got the best of both worlds, slim with the same capacity as the 19.

@LifeisGood762 2 жыл бұрын

Hickok doing the comparisons that matter. I'm really looking forward to reviews and comparisons with the S&W CSX!

@sisleymichael 2 жыл бұрын

We have a ton of choices these days. Everyone should be able to find a gun that floats their boat. I wish all happy hunting and you get the one that fits you best.

@throatpunch4789 2 жыл бұрын

"Were living in the golden age of firearms" - Hickok45

@redsrt4 2 жыл бұрын

Unless you live in a communist state like CA. Where neither of these models is available 😑

@shellfish5078 2 жыл бұрын

@@redsrt4 took the words right out my mouth

@mrarivv0007 2 жыл бұрын

@@redsrt4 can't get the ten round there? Or just really hard to do.

@redsrt4 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrarivv0007 no, in addition to having a 10 round mag limit CA also has a “roster” of handguns that can be sold in CA…. It’s really stupid and a long story, but the short version is, a gun has to undergo several “tests” that the state administers before they put in on roster, it’s expensive for manufacturers to do that. Also, CA will only put a new firearm on the roster if they can take an old one off. It’s a joke

@82lowe36id 2 жыл бұрын

This is the exact two options I was looking at. I have carried an original Shield for years and it has been excellent. I actually decided on the P365XL, but came across a great deal on a Shield Plus and went for it. Love that it fits all my Shield holsters. Glad I went with the Shield. They shoot like a bigger gun and are a pleasure.

@civilian0005 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to beat the value of a s&w shield, boy I’ll tell ya.

@mistascott007 2 жыл бұрын

Shot both and the 365xl ergonomics are amazing.

@paulmoss7940 2 жыл бұрын

I own both. Shield first ..no complaints..but 365xl is the one I carry most .

@mattburgess2 2 жыл бұрын

Mag guts in the shield plus will be 13 in the 10 rd and 15 in the 13 rd mags

@rob6850 Жыл бұрын

@@kvandy5989 I had forgotten his light primer strike on his p365 XL... Whatever became of that?

@DanielBoone337 2 жыл бұрын

We definitely live in an awesome time with all the options we have in carry guns especially when it comes to the smaller guns with really good capacity. I love my P365 XL but I also have a Hellcat that I love as well. It just comes down to where I'm going and what I'm wearing. Personally I like going with the biggest gun I can get away with within reason and again that just comes back to all the options we have these days. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 2 жыл бұрын

With the XL and a 15 round mag as a reload, I really don't feel I need any larger of a gun. I shoot it for fun, I legitimately love shooting it, and I shoot it as well as any full size.

@---tx9xx 2 жыл бұрын

Can you compare a bit the 365 and Hellcat in your shooting experience? Thanks!

@kylehammond8091 Жыл бұрын

Trenchcoat has entered the chat

@heyRex 2 жыл бұрын

Agree with thoughts and conclusions. Impressive marksmanship!

@veniceflorida9550 2 жыл бұрын

I love my P365XL with a Romeo red dot and I do IWB carry and sometimes I pocket carry with an Alabama holster. All good with this one.

@robertmartin6957 2 жыл бұрын

P365 was the first carry gun I ever bought. Used it in my concealed carry course. The grip was always a little small for me until I bought a 12 rd magazine. After that there was no changing for me. Fits perfect, shoots great, and after about 1200 rounds I’ve only had two malfunctions. One was operator error and the other one was a problem with the ammo (verified by the company that loaded them). All and all, great “jack of all trades” pistol at a very affordable price.

@DragonGamer31 2 жыл бұрын

Get the 15r mag, its even better

@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 2 жыл бұрын

I've owned 3 p365s (don't judge me), and one of them I had oil ver 2500 rounds through and I don't recall a single malfunction. Had about 500 through the other 2 without issues. I've got an XL now but I've only got 5 mags through it. Still no issues which has blown my mind.

@p30jeff57 2 жыл бұрын

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Why has it blown your mind?.... It's a firearm from a reputable manufacturer. They just work.

@p30jeff57 2 жыл бұрын

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Not to mention that's not as many rounds as you think.

@robertmartin6957 2 жыл бұрын

@@DragonGamer31 I have one that I take the the range but it’s just kind of obvious so I don’t carry with it. Still love it though.

@AverageThinking 2 жыл бұрын

The P365 is the ultimate do-everything pistol if you could only buy one. Small enough to conceal with ease, but with enough capacity to clear a building. If you have the budget, you can buy multiple pistols to better fulfill different use cases. But the P365 can do it all.

@johnnyjimenez222 2 жыл бұрын

Man best lines I’ve heard this is why it’s my edc as well as my first firearm I ever purchased

@patrickracing1 2 жыл бұрын

The trigger is absolute dog shit though

@AverageThinking 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyjimenez222 same dude. When I save up I’ll get a full-size P320 but for now, this thing is perfect.

@John-uo1qf 2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Used to own a shield but fed up with S&W "service"

@patrickracing1 2 жыл бұрын

@@John-uo1qf if you need to contact the service department, why would you ever carry that gun?

@innerdescent8210 2 жыл бұрын

Love the vids Hickock, keep up the excellent work sir!

@fireguy_75 2 жыл бұрын

My 365X is my CC right now & prob will be for a long time! Grip fits my size XL mits perfect & very easy to conceal with the standard, smaller 365 slide.

@789295 2 жыл бұрын

I actually bought 6 striker fired pistols including these two in the video to see what the talk was all about. The pistols were the (Glock 19, Glock 43X, Sig 365XL, Shield Plus, Glock 45, Glock48) After a year of shooting, these two pistols are what I have left. It's been a hard decision between the two. The shield has a smoother trigger, but the 365xl trigger is more predictable and comfortable in my experience. I added the Talon covers for each of them. The slightly lower bore axis on the 365XL has made it my choice so far. It doesn't feel as snappy as the Shield for me. The Shield does have a safety for those that prefer that option. It was a consideration for me. A good pocket holster makes me feel safe with either w/o the safety. Thanks Hickok for the video.

@sandiasurfers3174 2 жыл бұрын

CZ p10c voluptuous ergos ❤️❤️ and stock trigger got me, another one to consider , also carry a 43x w shield arms 15rd

@789295 2 жыл бұрын

@UCj-OwEa-J_O38PTTv4FFbzw I didn't dislike the pistols of your choice. In general I had not been a fan of the striker fired pistols. I remain preferring DA/SA hammer guns. I just wanted to find out the fascination with striker fired stuff. The Glocks were very comfortable as you say. If I had to buy the 365xl over again I would choose the 365X instead of the XL to make it just a slight bit smaller in my pocket and still a bit bigger than the plain 365.

@mikerobinson8734 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned all of these, sold them all for CZ. If you’ve ever been confronted with having to draw and put your little micro pistol into action you’ll wish you had a bigger gun. And more rounds. Period.

@shuumai 2 жыл бұрын

You can add a safety to the P365's.

@icedragon23472 2 жыл бұрын

Why would you ever sell a Glock 19 but keep P365xl and shield? You can have a Glock 19 to be your main gun since it performs as well as a full size and have the shield or P365 as your backup/deep conceal gun

@fedupmech 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite configuration is the XL frame with a p365 reg slide. Sig makes this model now. P365 X. I carry in a vedder pocket holster. Very comfortable and I really like the XL frame. My two cents. I enjoy your videos.

@---tx9xx 2 жыл бұрын

interesting, for me for a carry weapon I prefer the regular short p365 grip with the longer XL slide

@DJ-un4oh 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@usernamesrlamo 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, smaller grip is what hides better and longer barrel/slides recoils better. Definitely the better setup of the two hybrids.

@jayslomine4280 2 жыл бұрын

Vedder is a great company

@diplorablehomemaker 2 жыл бұрын

I just got a p365xl and I freaking love it. I use it as my carry gun super comfortable!

@geec5636 2 жыл бұрын

My daily carry is a M&P 40c that I had onl 1 misfire but with a Promag . Now I use that magazine at the range.

@Xfaction1111 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Shield Plus, the only issues I’ve had with it was due to swollen reloaded ammo I bought on the cheap during the ammo gouging and shortage. To the Shield Pluses defense it also jammed a Canik TP9SFX. I definitely wouldn’t say the Shield Plus is the best EDC or a do everything pistol. No sight cuts or Picatinny railing is a sore spot and from what I heard the S&W customer disservice is legendary. All in all I love my Shield Plus as it works flawlessly for my EDC.

@coopandcarter 2 жыл бұрын

That light primer strike is the reason you train with your weapon. IPSC competition will teach you to react to those situations.

@anthonyb2334 2 жыл бұрын

All nice guns. I have an M&P but not the shield version. I shot the P365, XL version , the 43X the Shield. and the Hellcat. I was torn between the 43X, the P365XL and the Hellcat. Just a matter of how they felt in my eye and how quick I acquired the target. All three were close for me so when Bass Pro had a sale on the Hellcat, I went that way. 2 years and still happy with it but all were very good. Thank you for your videos. They are great.

@user-op7tf6ho7j 2 ай бұрын

Ty for the review I literally feel 100 percent the exact same way you do but with shield have both just can't stand that sign trigger shield all day everyday thanks again

@DarlingEbony 2 жыл бұрын

I have both. Actually, I have the 365X and the Shield Plus. The Shield Plus is my favorite. Feels better in my hand and shoots like a dream.

@ShepherdMinistry Жыл бұрын

Do you have big hands?

@DarlingEbony Жыл бұрын

@@ShepherdMinistry Quite the opposite. I have small hands, even for a woman.

@True-Tails 2 ай бұрын

I was undecided between the 365X and Shield Plus. I did like the slimmer profile of the Sig, but went with Smith because of the $299 sale on 30 SC.

@3wheelmannc860 2 жыл бұрын

Both are serious considerations by quality companies. If you can't have both, for me, I choose the Sig 365XL.

@kingdomhearts9701 2 жыл бұрын

I go with the shield plus very nice and fells good in hand. Perfect size.

@frank4532 2 жыл бұрын

I took the 365 grip module and put the xl slide on it Works and shoots great

@Ostrich101R 2 жыл бұрын

Never thought I’d buy a micro gun when they first got popular. I shoot bigger guns a lot better. But the conceal-ability & capacity level were hard to ignore. I went with the Shield plus & now it’s time to shoot it!

@moradfares6908 2 жыл бұрын

Shot the shield plus terribly. Got the 365xl and It fits me better and so much easier to Shoot.

@DS..69 Жыл бұрын

@@moradfares6908 It's not the gun, it's you. Lol. Yeah, you gotta be comfortable with a gun. That's why I dislike Glocks. Not comfortable in my hand.

@moradfares6908 Жыл бұрын

@@DS..69 obviously! Lol. I don’t like how any of the smith and wessons feels in my hand.

@toddschutter6535 2 жыл бұрын

I really wanted to like the 365XL. Good sights, good trigger, nice and trim, accurate. Did seem a bit snappy. Was going to get one for me and once for the Mrs. BUT, it's hitting about 6 inches low at 15 yards. An associate of mine shoots it just fine. Bought a Shield Plus to try. Good sights, comfortable to shoot, accurate, great trigger, flat and easy to conceal. No malfunctions after 600 rounds and no cleaning. Bought another one for my wife's use.

@joewboe 2 жыл бұрын

My 365x also shoots low as well. It shoots better with heavier ammo try 124 or 147gr. Between two other friends we have 365 sas ported, xl and I have the x. All of them are less snappy than most pocket pistols of previous generations

@blainesnipes5459 2 жыл бұрын

Clean your gun dude

@toddschutter6535 2 жыл бұрын

@@blainesnipes5459 , On a new gun, I usually put 800-1000 rounds through it without cleaning to test reliability. before trusting my life with it. Then I clean it before carrying

@fettmaneiii4439 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh.. if you think the P365xl is snappy- you are a 2 year old or are lying about shooting it. It shoots objectively as soft as a larger frame HK. lmao

@dhuffu 2 жыл бұрын

Never listen to the guy who doesn’t clean his gun to test “reliability”

@michaelschaffer5984 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to see this video. I have a 365XL and a Shield Plus and they're both great guns. Not sure which I like most.

@charleywalker2982 2 жыл бұрын

Keep shooting, your learning!!! Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.

@johnkokolus4792 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a deputy sheriff in a county in PA. The dept. switched from Glocks to Sig P320's. I had never had an issue qualifying with the Glock, the Sig however had several light primer strikes and failures to feed. I purchased a few Glock gen 5's since I'm an FFL and was disappointed Glock had gone to a "pin" firing pin instead of the original firing pin which stamped a rectangular imprint on the primer. The original firing pin struck a larger area on the primer to ensure ignition.

@---tx9xx 2 жыл бұрын

good technical insight, thanks for sharing

@davidb9323 2 жыл бұрын

Are the old pins compatible with the Gen 5?

@harpo9279 Жыл бұрын

Never had a primer strike problem with any Glock I was issued. G22-10,000+ @rounds, 19- 10,000+ rounds. Gen 5 firing pin working fine.

@Sauerbrew777 2 жыл бұрын

Sold my Shield for a P365 and couldn't be happier. Also, I put the Magguts +2 spring kits in both my 12rd carry magazines. I love having 14+1 with a 14rd backup in a P365 size package.

@skeeter2653 2 жыл бұрын

Me too, I sold my shield and purchased the P365 and couldn’t be happier. I bought the Tac PAC with all 12 round mags, I hate that holster, it doesn’t fit after I installed the Lima Green Laser, I can’t see owning a different EDC, I have a couple different PCC’s, but I refuse to switch up my P365, no way…✋

@cerneysmallengines Жыл бұрын

Weight and specifically where that weight is plays a HUGE role. I have a 43x for my EDC. One of the first upgrades I did was put an aluminum Magwell on it. Putting that 1 ounce little weight at the end of the rotational axis. It actually helps considerably

@icecold4614 2 жыл бұрын

M&P shield is a great gun, shotnit before, its very fun. Thanks for making great videos, hickok!

@christofonobrown3659 2 жыл бұрын

That grip on the 365 is just so easy to conceal.

@stephenlittle7769 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Shield and I never liked it. I ended up getting a Walther PPS M2 and I love it. Shoots great, comfortable to carry and strips down like a Glock.

@TheOldsmobilekid 2 жыл бұрын

It’s hard to beat a pps m2.

@arizonaslotwins1414 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought the M&P Shield Plus. I had compared the Sig P365 and that is what I originally was going to purchase based on everything I read and having shot a P365. So just to be sure I rented one of each and just went to the local range and shot them. No doubt, I just like the feel of the S&W M&P Shield Plus. Both shot great, but for only a little more I purchased the S&W pistol. This review played a role in that choice. Thank you Hickok45!

@Markisuncfan Жыл бұрын

I stopped by Bud's in Pigeon Forge while we were on a quick getaway the other day to drool over pistols and buy some ammo. I asked for the Hickok discount. LOL They said buy 2 get the 3rd at full price. hehehehe. I did thank them for helping you and you help us alot. Thank you. Bud's is a super nice place to shop.

@hickok45 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great discount! :-)

@mikec5259 2 жыл бұрын

The P365 xl is a great platform. Regarding your light primer strike check the spring cup on your striker assembly. For a while Sig was using a one piece spring cup which may have been limiting the amount the striker could protrude from the breech face resulting in possibly sporadic light primer strikes. This was discussed on a Sig forum. I believe they have gone back to the two piece spring cup which alleviates the issue. At least by verifying that you have the 2 piece spring cup you could eliminate that as a possible cause.

@veniceflorida9550 2 жыл бұрын

How do you identify the one piece vs two piece spring cup?

@mikec5259 2 жыл бұрын

@@veniceflorida9550 You would have to remove the striker assembly from the slide and then visually inspect the spring cup(s). There are many helpful videos on youtube on how to remove the striker assembly if you're comfortable doing more than a basic field strip. If not, a local gunsmith would be able to assist you. Some helpful youtube channels would be Sig Guy, Mcarbo, but there are more. Good luck

@PatriotSteve 2 жыл бұрын

One piece spring cup.... and there are how many poorly designed sigs in peoples hands. Bad on Sig.

@harpo9279 Жыл бұрын

You shouldn’t have to work on a gun to make it reliable. It should be reliable out of the box. That’s one thing you can say about Glock- whether you like them or not. And that is the reason some agencies/ units that can purchase any weapon they want without budget considerations choose model 19/17.

@cornonthecob1268 Жыл бұрын

I wish I could be as cool and collective as this gentleman. I really enjoy watching his videos, he's as humble as a gentleman can be. Really enjoy the videos, very knowledgeable about firearms and I have learned a ton of information about pistls. THANK YOU!

@chrism2042 2 жыл бұрын

I have been with Glocks since the 90's and started getting M&P's 10-12 years ago. I don't alternate carry pistols, I carried a performance center shield for the past few years. Last Aug. I got a Sig 365XL to give it a try, after a few trips to the range, I gave the shield to my Wife so she can carry it instead of a M&P 9c. I have not purchased any larger Sig pistols yet, but 365XL has been awesome so far. Added a Holosun optic to it and like it even more. After my Wife shot it, looks like we will be getting her a 365XL or 365X next trip to the gun shop, then adding a Holosun optic to it.

@Wilders53 2 жыл бұрын

I own both and love both! That said I definitely shoot the plus much better

@chuckbernards731 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Hickok - I've been enjoying your vids for quite a while now. Someone may have covered this below. I just picked up a P365 and the striker channel was quite full of thick grease. I cleaned it up before ever shooting and I see nice deep primer strikes. You might check that out if you haven't. It's not a good place for a shock absorber. I used a few Q-Tips followed up with brake cleaner. Hope that helps someone. Keep up the good work!

@Greenjeans2020 2 жыл бұрын

I have several carry guns but my P365XL is my favorite. I mounted a Holosun red dot on it.

@HWYHOG1 5 ай бұрын

Hickok45 makes those steel targets sing like no other !!!

@drivesideways6550 2 жыл бұрын

I just purchased the original Shield (CA Compliant) with Bass Pro gift cards (been saving them for a while, this Christmas put the finishing touch on what was needed). I had a hard time finding one since the newer 2.0 and Plus that you can't buy I California, have basically phased out the original Shield. I was told there were only 2 left in all the Bass Pro Shops. The one I bought is a sales/demo gun out of the case. I bought it sight unseen, since California hasn't allowed new guns basically since 2012 or 2013. They have in a sense banned new guns by requiring the manufacturer to micro engrave the firing pin so the primer on the spent casing can be identified. Absolutely ridiculous. Of course, no manufacturer is going to do this. If they change the name or grip of a gun it has to go through all the tests, and drop tests again even though it is internally the same firearm. They are creating loopholes to take away our second amendment rights. I can't purchase the "new" version of a gun that was introduced in 2017. California Sucks!

@Conservativechristiancombat 2 жыл бұрын

My condolences for you living in such a freedom crippling state.

@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 жыл бұрын

I recommend an Apex trigger for your Shield, if the commie overlords will allow it.

@mach1yell66 2 жыл бұрын

@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920agree 100%

@davidr.wickline1100 2 жыл бұрын

I love my shield, moat accurate compact pistol I've owned.

@waffle_fart 2 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy...time to get the hell out of that communist state...seems a bunch of businesses and people are leaving there...I did a while ago...best move I ever made...good luck

@SwheatCents 2 жыл бұрын

P365XL for the WIN! Best pistol ive ever shot!!

@MrOfficer235 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Sig P320 x compact and it’s perfect for me. Love the flat trigger

@susanbutler2498 2 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year Uncle Hickok! Lots of Love & Respect from Kiwiland. : ) : )

@JDowPCs 2 жыл бұрын

I've shot the 365. It's a good shooter, but I love my shield plus. Not too big for a summer/t-shirt carry, but you don't feel like you're compromising anything by carrying it with its capacity. It's also got a better trigger imo. S&W nailed it with the new triggers and the new texturing.

@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын

Shield plus is too big for pocket carry

@planecrazey1 2 жыл бұрын

I have been rotating thru carry guns for about 35 years. I love my P365, and am staying with it until someone comes out with a better pistol.......which I can't see being likely.

@jmans56 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't know I needed this video. I was thinking this same comparison.

@joshnite9265 2 жыл бұрын

The XL is it. Love that pistol.

@bullseyeike3070 2 жыл бұрын

I have the 4 inch performance center shield plus and have been very pleased with it. I also own a p365 and for me the shield just feels better in my hand. The p365 feels just a tad too small. Never shot a 365 xl but it does look like it would fix my complaints about the 365. At this point though, I’m so satisfied with the shield plus that I won’t be changing carry guns for a long time.

@TomTom-lv3ou 2 жыл бұрын

As a LEO, Sig 365 XL is the best EDC out there, many of my parters agree. Couldn’t imagine carrying anything else. Love it.

@TomTom-lv3ou 2 жыл бұрын

@@Butch_Deezlsteak I agree. We’re only mandated to shoot quarterly.

@TomTom-lv3ou 2 жыл бұрын

@@Butch_Deezlsteak around 80. Sucks.

@TomTom-lv3ou 2 жыл бұрын

@@Butch_Deezlsteak I agree. Funding is the issue. We carry a 40 cal MP.

@davidb9323 2 жыл бұрын

@@TomTom-lv3ou must be a trooper

@ez12like 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Sig 365XL. I had a light primer strike the first time I used the 15 round mag. After that, I did not have any problems. I going to guess the problem is with the magazine. But what do I know. I'm no expert. Great video as always. Keep up the good work.

@deanmiller6177 2 жыл бұрын

I have the P365,P365XL and the Hellcat pro and love all 3 of them.

@brandonwoodley5198 2 ай бұрын

which has less recoil?

@BobbyJuno 2 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of options out there lately but it really seems to come down to these two. I went with the P365 XL but I swapped out its grip for the smaller module.

@bluster684 2 жыл бұрын

I came down to these two while on my search. I rented both at a range, I was more accurate with the shield plus, so I bought it (win win because it was also cheaper by a good margin). Both comfy in the hands and capacity for size is good

@finalcountdown7658 2 жыл бұрын

It's down to Shield Plus, P365, and Hellcat.

@LibertarianRF 2 жыл бұрын

@@finalcountdown7658 hellcat is a fun gun.

@alexmiller6848 11 ай бұрын

I have a 365 XL with A 407K mounted and orange aftermarket front sight. Also picked up a Hellcat Pro with the Mcarbo trigger kit and modded it out. Threw on a TLR-7A, EPS Carry, Talon grips, Apex Threaded barrel, she's a beauty.

@hks956 9 ай бұрын

Finally someone with some sense. What I always hear is people buying the smallest newest thing then making it bigger.

@darrellhebert1725 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Shield in 45ACP

@James-303CO Жыл бұрын

Same good pick sir 👍🏼

@michaelschaffer9165 2 жыл бұрын

The decision gets even more difficult when you upgrade the pistols. Wilson Combat makes an excellent grip frame for the 365 family. Zev makes an extended magazine release and Magguts gives you 14 rounds in the magazine. Magguts also improves the Shield Plus capacity from 10 & 13 to 13 & 15. They both can be made much much better.

@gregggibson3109 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve shot both Hickok and really prefer the Sig P365XL, and if I were to carry the Sig, I would also opt for the extended mags to achieve a full size grip (I have XL hands). I know you enjoy shooting the smaller frame pistols, but I’ve never developed that affinity. My go to concealment pistol is the Berreta PX4 Storm Compact Carry in a PHLster Enigma rig. Enjoyed the video!

@ThereIsNoSpoon4 2 жыл бұрын

Hogue grip for the 365XL is amazing. Makes the gun feel perfect. Best part is it's only like 13$. You won't regret it.

@mikeheckman4995 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man! I just ordered one because of your post. You got a good deal. I paid just under $21 (after shipping and tax).

@PJ-mj1hy Жыл бұрын

@@mikeheckman4995 what's your 1 yr+ take on that hogue grip

@mikeheckman4995 Жыл бұрын

@@PJ-mj1hy I wouldn't do without it. Love it.

@samm4980 2 жыл бұрын

I love my 365 XL and really liked the Shield, too. I personally think the Glock 48 fits with these two compared to the 43X, standard size P365, SA Hellcat, etc. I chose the 365 XL, but definitely don't think the 48 gets enough love. All of them are great options. I also love my LCP Max. There are plenty of great firearms for concealed carry nowadays.

@Southernguitar74 2 жыл бұрын

I have a G48 and a P365xl. The G48 is every bit as good as the Sig. I thought the Sig would replace the Glock but it did not. Both are very good, though.

@007artimus Жыл бұрын

I agree with Hickok, you have to shoot them to know. I got a 48 because it seemed like a good option. Then I rented the Plus and I shot it significantly better, even with the shorter barrel. I just like the grip angle and trigger much better.

@rraxbbax 3 ай бұрын

I've tried several versions of the Shield over the years. I've hated the slippery grips and the triggers. Give the Sig P365 every day. In fact, that's what I do. It's my carry. But... I know a lot of people who love the various Shields, and that's awesome. Variety! I love that after all these years, the 2 litre bottles still make you chuckle.

@dennisharvey8435 Жыл бұрын

i came across a used shield plus going for $250. I couldn't pass it up. I love this piece. Probably 300 rounds of fmj and hollow points combined and zero issues. It replaced my edc gun