@@TransportEnthusiast81 it makes no sense how they are geared for 62mph but with the amount of technology that exists, they somehow cant hit those speeds. I personally think stuff should be dont to improve the speed theres tech that limits the trains from over speeding, and the acceleration is fast enough to hit 62mph. Also have you traveled in a cab ride before? Also i listen to the motor/fan noise too. It usually indicates if the motor is at a higher speed rpm. And depends on the trai what speed that can indicate.

Trust me man they are rapid

@@Jayvoltage253 ive been trying to look for that nd the met line one, glad you know about it too

They can, but they dont hit that speed often times and dont do it anywhere near as fast, their upper acceleration rate is capped near and after baker street mostly. They struggle alot because it seems the power supply hasnt been modified to allow them to hit max acceleration capacity. In that reigion, which is silly if you ask me. They need to ne getting to upgrading that ASAP.😂

@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 I'm not sure but I think it has something to do with the fact that part of the Metropolitan line has shared tracks with the Chiltern Railway.

@@tahirarafique4620 idk because Chiltern raol doesemt use electricity. Its diesel only.

@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524It's because there is no CBTC system installed north of Finchley Road. The trains are capped in performance to the old signalling

@@Matty12333 i guess they should improve that. Means the s8 stocks can blitz it up to 60 in a heart beat.

@@Matty12333 for sure they blitz now

Indeed. They were. Back in the late 2000s..

From 2008 to 2017

It was slightly uphill tbh. But its probably slower by a bit

2009 stocks are faster

@@Matty12333 Yep, I've heard that

@@Matty12333 many reasons for this. 09 stock is lighter, and as a result the power to weight ratio is better. S stocks probably have a relitively lower power to weight ratio, but utilise a surplus of motors. More motors means that power can be given to the motors faster as they are distributed among multiple motors and thus it can take of faster at lower speeds without overloading the motors. However it gets to a point where lower speed acceleration tapers off and the train takes up its max power and continuous acceleration takes over. The continuous acceleration is drawn back a bit because the S stock likely has relitively less power output than a 95 stock. Roughly translated. If the S stock was a smaller train like the 95 stock, it would use less max power than a 95 stock. Another factor could be software limits meaning it tapers off its power as per the programming as it hits higher speeds. For the power that they use, the S stocks are pretty good. Its also likely that the 09 stock doesent hit 50mph as fast as the S stock, but at lower speed acceleration is just better so it gives off the illusion that its faster to max speed than the S stock when it might not be. So far 95 stocks are recorded to be the quickest.

The S stock accelerated like a 376 after 45mph.

Weather and line speed may not enable that. Who knows if it can hit that or not. We will have to see another time😊

They have the same max speed. And these are faster unfortunately. They have much better acceleration..however thr 1995 stock is much faster than both of these trains

@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 1995 stock has an advantage it has 4 carriages motored out of 6. 1996 stock has 4 out of 7 motored. Although despite this the performance isn't too far behind the 95 stocks

@@Matty12333 id beg to disagree with the 95 vs 96 stock. Its true that The 95 stocks motors enable it to accelerate much better than the 96 stock due having 8 motored bogies with 6 carriages compared to 8 motored bogies with 7 carriages. However theres a decent margin for acceleration. Removing 20 tons of carriage will enable this. 95 stocks actually beats the S stock to 50mph despite the S stock having all wheels motored and better starting acceleration. The 8 motor bogies of the 95 stock enables much better continuous speed than practically all tubes except the 09 stock , which i have no idea how fast it is. 96 stock has good continuous acceleration for what it has. But the advantage of 95 stock is substantial overall. One thing ive noticed is that the 95 stock having less carriage to motor ratio means that is can have better protection against wear and tare as the motors have power distributed across 8 motors with 6 carriages instead of bearing excess weight and power. Its likely why 96 stocks tend to have weird motor anomalies from time to time. I could be wrong about the wear and tear theory but yeah.