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On episode 65, we speak with Donald Wagner, a long-time Chicago-based activist for Palestinian rights, a Presbyterian clergyperson and the author of a new memoir, Glory to God in the Lowest: Journeys to an Unholy Land.
Forty years ago this month, during Israel’s invasion of Lebanon, Israel’s then defense minister Ariel Sharon sent Lebanese militia forces, the Phalangists, into the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps in Beirut on false claims of so-called terrorism.
Thousands were slaughtered in a three-day massacre and no one was ever tried for war crimes.
Ariel Sharon had to resign as a government minister after an Israeli inquiry concluded that he bore “indirect responsibility” for the massacre.
Yet that was certainly not the end of his political career. Sharon would become Israel’s prime minister in 2001.
In his memoir, Wagner details his experience in the camps the day after the massacre ended, in mid-September 1982, and how that led to his commitment to fighting for Palestinian rights for the rest of his life.
“When I went in on Monday morning, after the massacre ended, a bigger wave of survivors and relatives were coming in,” Wagner tells us.
“And it was so gut-wrenching; while we walked by the Israeli-controlled apartment building - they were still there, of course - you could see how they could monitor everything from that vantage point with their telescopic lenses.”
As he moved closer to the camps, he says, “we were handed a handkerchief soaked in cheap cologne because the stench of death was overpowering. You would get sick if you didn’t have that. And immediately we walked over and were just taken aback because pieces of bodies were being pulled out.”
Wagner adds that he had a brief conversation with an imam in the camp that day, who said he had seen “hundreds lined up on Friday night against a couple of buildings and machine-gunned to death. And then trucks came and trucked them out, and we will never find the bodies. I asked him to estimate what he thought was the number of deaths, and he said, ‘we’ll never know.’”
The imam told Wagner to “just go home and tell the truth. Just go home and tell what you’ve seen.”
“That has stuck with me my whole life,” he says.
“I’ll never forget it. That’s the least I can do with the suffering and to carry that responsibility to tell what I’ve seen,” Wagner adds.
Wagner points out that Israel has faced no consequences for numerous other crimes. He cites the killing of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh and the activist Rachel Corrie as examples.
“And as that massacre was covered up, we see the continuation that Israel’s got carte blanche, this murder of Shireen, Rachel Corrie, it just goes on and on. So until these are rectified and there’s accountability, it’s going to continue."
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@abaseenmali5632
@abaseenmali5632 Жыл бұрын
God bless all your team. May God protect all the oppressed and destroy the oppressors
@AB-pn4ee
@AB-pn4ee Жыл бұрын
What an amazing person you are Donald Wagner❤
@NK-ht3fo
@NK-ht3fo Жыл бұрын
It's a difficult episode to watch. Thank you for keeping the memory alive
@ramatgan1
@ramatgan1 Жыл бұрын
Look for the book Sabra and Shatila by Bayan Nuwayhed Al-Hout it is a masterpiece on what happened.
@abaseenmali5632
@abaseenmali5632 Жыл бұрын
@Maas God willing
@abaseenmali5632
@abaseenmali5632 Жыл бұрын
@Maas unfortunately the oppression Wii increase until that blessed day arrives. The next events in the historical process are, the malhama, tatah Constantinople, khurooj dajjal. The arrival of nabi ISSA as will bring an end to the worse of times and bring the best of times. Our faith is under attack, may Allah give us the strength to protect our faith and at least prey for the oppressed be they our Palestinian or Armenian brethren.
@ramatgan1
@ramatgan1 Жыл бұрын
Look for the book Sabra and Shatila by Bayan Nuwayhed Al-Hout it is a masterpiece on what happened.
@AB-pn4ee
@AB-pn4ee Жыл бұрын
Keep up your superb work EI
@nicojames3031
@nicojames3031 Жыл бұрын
Amazing testimony 😮
@videoashkar
@videoashkar Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤👏👏👏
@Ruby_Ramone
@Ruby_Ramone Жыл бұрын
Love to Palestine
@annamaedevlin1713
@annamaedevlin1713 Жыл бұрын
I came here today to see those who might be interested. Why am I not surprised. MONEY RULES & MONEY IS EVIL. BDS!
@MinkytheMinkY
@MinkytheMinkY Ай бұрын
George Galloway mentioning it brought me here.
@davidprobert4171
@davidprobert4171 Жыл бұрын
The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the killing of between 460 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites, by the militia of the Lebanese Forces, a Maronite Christian Lebanese right-wing party, under the command of Elie Hobeika, in the Sabra neighborhood and the adjacent Shatila refugee camp in Beirut, Lebanon. President Bachir Gemayel had been assassinated two days earlier and the Phalangists sought revenge.
@sf6199
@sf6199 Жыл бұрын
✔️
@annamaedevlin1713
@annamaedevlin1713 Жыл бұрын
BDA!
@miriamjaimes8213
@miriamjaimes8213 6 ай бұрын
How to forget this genocide.
@santabanter
@santabanter Жыл бұрын
God bless Israel 🇮🇱
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