Seriously, you don't always (or often) see creators get that inventive with the ads.

​@@PyreSimon Whistler's Brain Blaze ad reads are comparable, especially in the OGBB days

I like the ad reads on Puzzle in a Thunderstorm podcasts for a similar reason. They’re usually skits that involve some variety of absurd shenanigans.

Don't, the cereal is awful.

​@@Briskeeeenit's sugar free cereal. That's the chance you take. Some people love it while others hate it. Being diabetic, I've been considering trying it.

Ahhhh. It’s the Ford Millennium Falcon edition.

That's a marvelous explanation

Only a true Star Wars fan would say that. Your Mom sounds awesome.

I wouldn’t mind testing cereal, if it comes with the mind wipe , It will save me tons on fermented grain based biofuel I use to wipe my own mind .

Dont tempt the Dock Master. I think he has a fetish for crushing ships...not that im kink shaming or anything lmao

@@povertybarnperformance Now we need to wait till aprils intro is just the space dock compressing itself into a cube.

Maybe if it were Cap'n Crunch.

Be careful not to annoy the Dock Master. He might decide to interpret you fleshy being a form of transport and compress it into a cube to remove an annoyance.😅

Where's the lie, tho?

Ah, so that is the cause of all the UFO sightings (and alleged abductions 😂).

​@@SacredCowShipyardshey, this video reminds me of one cool ship... Nostromo it's called, what's think? Is there or will be video.

Better explanation than anything out of Lucasfilm or Disney.

We don't do common sense here. This is the Lucasfilm

Yes, that way they could avoid any ... "Imperial Entanglements".

The class of ship that the Falcon is, is more of a tug then a freighter.... It was made to pick up a group of cargo container and lock the spine holding the cargo in the containers to the left and right of the spine... Rather then be loaded to hold the cargo inside the ship it self.

@@jonathanbair523 That IS the latest retcon, yes.

Well, it did have one, it just wandered around a bit and did some piloting.

Don't forget the chrome dice hanging in the cockpit.

Spaceballs stole the shag carpet right from under their noses.

I was thinking "Space U-Haul" but now that I have read this... Yeah... 'Space Panel Van' sounds about right. It can be a *lot* of different things but it's not going to be the best at anything.

Or a Winnebago (ala Spaceballs)

I think that's what light freighters are.

In the old expanded universe this is kinda what it was, think sorta like a sprinter/transit van with a "crew cab" layout

I asummed light fighter like the Falcon was akin to say a semi truck where as freighters akin to real oceanic one would be stuff like the Lucerhulk

@@vonfaustien3957 nah... For me light freight in the sense I work with it is the sort of size vehicle you can drive often on a car license... Small and relatively rapid... Final mile and local but can do long distance... There is a class in the middle in the old expanded universe that meets the space semi class but then there is a group actually bigger than the lucrehulk for just absolutely insane volume across long distance

@@Simon-ho6ly the Lukerhulk is almost 3 km across it dwarfs most star destroyers. Your telling me they've got a frighter in the same size class as the mandator or executor star dreadnoughts?

Only that he didn't. That would be true, if he had replaced the single laser cannon with a quad blaster cannon, but he installed an AG-2G quad laser cannon which has four guns of the same size as the original cannon.

Star Wars weapons seem complicated. Lasers, quad lasers, turbo laser, etc. Not like, "this is a Type X phaser, upgrade over the Type IX" or "quantum torpedo > photon torpedo". What's the heirarchy? They all seem like point defense guns, with no main weapons for actual ship to ship.

@@logicplague turbolaser>laser>blastercannon>blaster, I believe is the hierarchy. There is also ion cannons and blasters, but those can come in various sizes.

@@logicplague The problem is that the nomenclature is all messed up. There's personal scale weapons, fighter scale, ship scale, and capital scale weapons. So a laser cannon from a capital ship can be orders of magnitude more destructive than one from a fighter despite having the same name. Lasers and blasters are side grades in Star Wars and are constantly being improved on so one time one is somewhat more powerful sometimes the other. Blasters are a plasma weapon using ionized Tibana gas, lasers are sometimes solid state, sometimes they use excited Tibana gas. You really need to find a Janes type manual fore each weapon and ship. The real answer of course is whatever the writer needs to tell the story and the rule of cool.

@@snipersl270 Gotcha. To be fair Trek wasn't the greatest, phasers just went up by numbers for each new design, but quantum torpedoes were never really explained other than a blue upgraded photon. To say nothing of those transphasics lol. Disruptors never even had a scale to my knowledge, although they were aomewhat explained as to how they differed from phasers. Phasers were more versatile, and more complicated, where a disruptor is a straight up weapon.

Star furies?

In the Expanse TV show, we encounter a number of actual freighters. For example, the Weeping Somnambulist and the Guy Molinari. But we do not get to see too much of how they actually work as freighters.

@@jasonudall8614 star furies are good star fighters, horrible freighters

@@tirirana NASA thought Star Furies would make a good design for space forklifts.

Firefly has the same problem of being relatively large compared to ours cargo capacity, making it inefficient for serious transport. The flexibility makes it similar to the yet-1300 however in that it can take a variety of small to medium size jobs and also land in atmosphere directly, allowing it to deliver outside of established infrastructure. So they aren’t exactly tug boats, instead they are more like crew cab pickups or sprinter vans

Like I said, if they ever actually mentioned that detail, even in passing, it'd help with the setup.

Mork 2024!

I0m not through the video yet,, and I dont know if it's mentioned... It's been some years but I think in the space sim "X-Wing Alliance" the developers showed the YT1300 docking with cargo containers via the "mandables." Right where Disney Lucasfilm put the escape pod.

there is nothing wrong with the Intermodel system. most of the criticisms are related to the idea of a forward-facing cannon which makes a lot less sense than having turrets. If their was a dumb idea regarding YT freighters it would be having a forward facing cannon. Why the hell would a cargo ship a forward firing cannon- only fighters have fixed forward firing cannons. The Intermodel concept is a great idea- There is no reason why the forward auxiliary craft would not have additional mauvering jets that would assist in maneuvering the loads. Its not a bad system. Not only is it not a bad system its likely the kind of system that will be used in the future if humans ever develop inter planetary cargo transport. Not one of the reasons he gave was a good reason for not having an Intermodel arm or outsized clamp used. Saying "we don't see them anywhere else" is silly as shit as all kinds of things show up never to be seen again in starwars. Its not like we have even seen another YT-1300 freighter. (officially the YT that is seen in the PT is the MF) The only legit criticism in this video is that its a retcon to make up for the problem that the MF is a freighter that cannot carry cargo.

The luxury yacht would have worked surprisingly well with the Lando backstory in Solo.

A tug makes sense since it would explain the overpowered engines, off center cockpit and especially the clear lack of internal cargo bays.

Fun Fact: In a poster meant to get investors interested in the original Star Wars film, there's a version of the Millennium Falcon that has twin cockpits.

See, the thing is, though, a "conventional hauler" wouldn't be that hard to design and could carry FAR more cargo - even in external pods - than this... thing.

​@@SacredCowShipyardsit could be a fast but expensive delivery like someone needs parts fast for their generator or they die

​​​@@SacredCowShipyardsthe "Sprinter" aka the Semi cab with a Box is a thing for a reason. Being modular as well to alternate between the Sprinter "box [space] truck on steroids" and the traditional Tractor/Tug external cargo pod/trailer (doubles, triples, etc) makes for a flexible set of services offered. "Bulk Freighters" are their own category... Welcome to [Space] MOPAR...

_Millenium Falcon_ is another way of saying _Phoenix._ The phoenix is a magical bird that lives for a thousand years, dies, self immolates, and is born again. Also, apparently made up by (Arab?) traders on the Silk Road as a way to explain why they charged so much for cinnamon, since the story was that cinnamon was recovered from burnt up phoenix nests.

It's as logical as a Millenial and flies like a paralysed falvcon?

I always understood it to be more a space sprinter/transit van than a space semi or cargo ship... more designed to move small, high value cargo in a hurry... its more "we need to move some boxes of critical spares to this system, NOW... not "we need to move hundreds of tons of meh value cargo

Yeah, the best imaginable use-cases for it include; picking up this and that from here and there, running priority last-lightyear delivery or courier service, carrying your workshop/storefront with you with samples on hand, and as a diplomatic hero ship that happens to have a cargo hold to carry whatever is needed. Making it into a space train or space tug/tow is insane. It'd only make sense if you had a fleet of the things and needed to find a use for them, no matter how silly.

@@Simon-ho6ly If it is meant to carry small cargo then it should be categorised as 'transport' not 'freighter'. If you want a small fast ship to carry small cargo or passengers hopping between islands, you use a small yacht or a speed boat.

@@sompongpire3027 meanwhile if you want to move small loads, a few pallets etc here your insurance would be considered freight transport since you are doing it for hire... small cargo between islands you would use a ferry or small freighter.. also in universe the equivalents of yachts and speed boats exist

​@@LibertyMonkWhen you need a few couplers from Space O'Reilly's.

The bigger, badder, Skipray Blastboat.

The fact that this "freughter" can go toe to toe with combat ships of any kind really lends credit to the idea of it being a pretty shit freighter. Though one better suited to illicit trade than an actual good freighter.

@@DrewLSsixi think that was always the point. Every single owner of the Yt series used it for anything but cargo

Corellian Engineering was well versed in making advanced ships with Electrical systems so generic that any after market piece could be added on from any other ship manufacturer so much so its basically a meme at this point. the TY-1300 is basically is the "hey kids, wanna haul cargo or fly a ship that looks like a piece of junk, well check out our YT-1300 series it can be a freight hauler, a personal transport, a gunship and a personal transport. come on down to Corellian Engineering ship yards and get your dream YT-1300 freighter today!" kind of deal going on. Corellian engineering wanted a ship that could be used for every conceivable role possible. but the issue of the YT-1300 freighter hauler ship is that its a pre-clonewars era ship and Corellian Engineering had actually stopped making the YT-1300 freighter by a new hope though many like the Millenium falcon are still around however cometially they were replaced by the VCX-100 light freighter which had magentic freight dock a ventral loading rack, a small short ranged tractor beam generator. it took all the stuff the YT-1300 did but only better plus it was bigger then the YT-1300. it was a vastly big improvement. and even the engineers over at Corellian Engineering realized the YT-1300's engine configuration was inefficient when it came to thrust output and was built for tight quick turns instead at the sacrifice of engine efficiency which was corrected when Corellian Engineering built the VCX-100 which ironically was built after Corellian Engineering was nationalized by the empire and one of the Corellian Engineering's VCX-100s the ghost. the genericness of the Corellian Engineering build ships is so generic one could probably strap a star destroyer hyperdrive to your YT-1300 or VCX-100 and safely say "this is fine"

Oh God no you must smell like feet wrapped in burnt bacon.

"Oh, I'm sorry, I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only two meters wide!"

@@siechamontillado "That thing wasn't even paid off yet! Do you have any idea what this is gonna do to my credit rating?"

@@logicplague "What?! Oh, oh 'just rebuild it.' Oh, real f-----ing original. And who's going to give me a loan jackhole, you?"

Damn, beat me to it😆👍 "Get your 7'2" asthmatic ass back here, or I'm gonna tell everybody what a bitch you were about padme, panda bear, whatever the hell her name was!"

I believe those rebel transports are actually... strategically acquired freighters. The Quasars definitely were.

@@patchmoulton5438 yup, the quasar was definitely a freighter

LOL love that retcon of yours.

@@EclipseWarlord Thank You!

Very nice illustration of the concept of a semi-truck style of single container long hauler. Following that analogy, the Millenuim Falcon configuration was more like a charter bus-size RV for passengers with a nice baggage compartment. Kind of like what a rock band might tour with. Thus making the Winnebago in Spaceballs the perfect parody of it.

@@h_in_oh However, only freight explains the mandibles. A large percentage of the ships mass is taken up by those therefore, they need a reasonable explanation. Freight containers provide that.

@@chrisgeddes26 Yes, freight containers explain the semi-truck design for the YT1300 series in general, but the exact configuration of the Millennium Falcon was more like converting such a truck into a charter RV with a baggage compartment.

Agreed, the thrum of her engines onboard or that 1970s turbofan whine on some of the slower camera passes are absolutely iconic.

Not that anyone is surprised Disney can’t follow the lore properly.

@@bkane573 Yeah, I'm recalling KK saying that, unlike other sci-fi franchises, Star Wars has no books that they could use for story concepts... let that sink in for a moment.

@@DarinRWagner Hold on, let me go get my bottle of whiskey. I'm gonna need to be in an altered state of consciousness to understand her claim!

My understanding - and I could have misinterpreted - is that Lucas wanted the YT-1300 to hold a single cargo pod between its mandibles, rather than the "string of pearls configuration" that the retcon saddled it with. The former doesn't not make sense. The latter is nonsense.

@@SacredCowShipyards Well pushing containers through space on long hauls isn't much different than semi-trucks dragging containers cross-country. And since it was the 1970s, when truck drivers were getting all kinds of love in the pop culture, it makes sense from a thematic perspective. Space itself is nonsense, so I don't have any trouble with this as a concept.

A fast transport for low-volume, high-value cargo, like mail and packages, perishable foods, luxury items and so on.

Oh, asymmetrical ships are almost a science fiction standby at this point, because, after all, there's no atmo in space, amirite? Never mind lever arms and moment arms and mass distributions...

@@SacredCowShipyards You mentioning arms made me remember the spaceship Outlaw Star from the show Outlaw Star. It might make for an interesting video.

My brother has the Klingon Bird Of Prey.

Parasite craft ftw.

@@SacredCowShipyards Selling gizka in 4,000 B.B.Y. "Take them off my hands." Selling gizka now: "No low-ballers. I know what I've got."

The GR-75 is my idea of a sensible cargo ship design. You can even SEE that it is essentially a shell filled with shipping containers.

@@MonkeyJedi99 another good one

The BFF is, by all appearances, a decent freighter, though it has limited information so it's hard to say.

@@SacredCowShipyards I think it was made up for the x-wing game, which explains it simple shape and rather lackluster amount of Canon information. But over the years I must have both destroyed and saved thousands of them

Interestingly, the F and P variants don't have much storage space back by the engines either.

Yeah people don't seem to realise Han was just some Yokel who went "I've put my truck on 37's and slapped on a turbo I bought off of ebay and now I can't figure why this thing keeps breaking down. Still check out my new gun rack"

Yes, aircraft carriers have offset bridges, but that is a compromise because of the need for a continuous flight deck. The first "carriers" has a standard bridge superstructure with a takeoff runway forward and a landing (wall planting?) runway aft. Then there were experiments with bridgeless carriers, carriers with takeoff facilities one deck below the top deck, bridges on the port AND starboard. As planes got bigger and faster, they needed more space to take off and land. This led to the invention of first crash nets, then arrestor lines and as jest came on board, launch catapults. The world's navies have pretty much settled into starboard offset islands for carriers, not that a lot of nations have carriers at all.

Aircraft carriers do it because that's the only real way to have a continuous deck.

In X-Wing Alliance, you fly a stock YT-1300, and pick up containers… which latch over the ventral gun turret position. or where the ventral gun turret would be if the stock YT-1300 had one.

Yeah, I got nothin' for that. Thought about how it might work. Broke a processor. Totally forgot to mention it afterwards.

Iirc it was specifically mentioned to be the falcon, just in a previous identity as the "stellar envoy" under a different owner. They cover it in the the falcon novel (Granted, that's legends now) and I think in one of the DVD commentaries.

I mean, jettisoning cargo can happen from wherever, though, admittedly, in the YT-1300's case, you literally have to carry the cargo to an airlock, which may explain why he thought it was notable enough to mention.

Officially they are all corvettes in-universe.

In EVE online, Blockade Runners are categorized as "Transport Ships" and serve as a smaller version of an industrial transport with a fraction of the space, but better protected bays, higher speed, faster FTL jumps, and even cloaking in some cases.

Ship classes are a whole nightmare deserving their own episode, but largely "yes".

AFAIK cargo ships get slower and slower to save on fuel cost. If that's not really a factor, going faster is preferable. But yeah, a normal freighter will not use an experimental military grade hyper drive generator either.

the thing about the modern ships not being much faster than old ships is that while their speed is low, their Rate is high, because the amount of cargo they can carry has gone up, so the cost per unit has gone down. A lot. as has the number of trips needed for a given quantity of goods to be moved. Also, their actual travel time has improved. First, by not being entirely dependent on the wind anymore they don't randomly have to deal with being blown off course, being unable to move for days at a time, having to cut their speed in half or worse because the wind is blowing the wrong way, etc. Second, by increasing the amount of fuel carried and the efficiency of the engines, they don't have to stop anywhere near as often as early steam ships, also reducing travel time. Third and finally, increase in size and improvement in design and navigation equipment means that a lot of weather that was dangerous for older ships can now just be ignored and sailed right through. All this adds up to the Throughput going up a lot, even though the speed of individual ships hasn't. Even so, in spite of all this, ships are used for things that need to be moved in large quantities, on a regular basis (when it seems like this isn't the case? the random stuff is going into shipping containers. The accumulated Shipping Containers are the thing that regularly gets moved in large quantities). Small quantities of things that don't make regular trips and need to actually be Fast go on planes.

What that guy said.

@@laurencefraser I still hope they bring back sailing boots, they look nice and it would be better for the environment.

The ghost was a VCX-100, not a yt-2000

When you're beating a REALLY big dead horse, you go through a lot of bats.

We try to space out our true Sacred Cow moments. Gotta give y'all time to recover.

I can explain this more sober, but key points "joint transport models" worked on the Great Lakes. Like icebreakers on Coral Reef Heavy tropical cruises. Fill the berths with passengers when you can't push the freight. Starwars relies on "hyperlanes" cleared of obstacles. Over powered engines and empty carrying people wouldn't be suspicious, therefore perfect smuggling vessel. "No people, hurrying back" or "no cargo, carrying people". "I dunno must be a stowaway" for people, "I guess my last passengers left it" for cargo. It's a valid reason and thought train if you look at the Great Lakes Fleet is my point

@placenci I'm thinking why don't we see outlaws with safe houses to store their treasures and stuff in star wars.

The idea is great. The execution is... not.

Not wrong.

That's essentially how it was being used to smuggle things. Small, high-value cargo that needs to get somewhere fast (and avoid being stopped).

Glad you enjoyed.

See, if it just handled a single, large pod, I could deal with that. The whole "string of pearls" configuration is nonsense.

The mobile seat helps, but still.

@@SacredCowShipyards Absolutely does, but its still deeply limited. Shame too because with a third ring of window and possibly some blast cover, it could have been extremely viable. That said, gimball lock would have caused a ton of unnecessary turret rotation, so the fact the turret can yaw really helps extend its use. I feel many of your talking-point in my millions of bones, so I think I need to watch more of your local-group linear video content for this wonderful sanity check that keeps me from going nuts on this mudball with these weirdos.

That's the plan!