"nauts".

@@SacredCowShipyards oh my bad, I didn't read it fully 🤣

​@@SacredCowShipyardscan you make a video the AT-TE please

P'rhaps.

"Pay no attention to the drive cones behind the rear bridge."

It could also be indicative that its designed for longer-term deployments like patrols or extended campaigns away from a base or supporting Star Destroyer.

It's designed to be both an assault vehicle and a FOB that's why At-at is just an ifv

@@ivankrylov6270 Man, that is one of a heck sice IFV

@@cardiv5zuikaku944 best way to create cheap and compact suppressive fire is to elevate blasters to a high vantage

@@ivankrylov6270 unless the troopers inside use jetpacks, i don't see how the AT-AT in anyway an IFV. the closest thing the empire has to an IFV, is the ITT

You just need to drift it

@@vonfaustien3957 or treat the wheels like tank treads and have each side go the opposite way.

@@justinmothorpe6941 if you want to do it the lame practical way sure but I for one want to see a 50 foot long hundred ton mobile bunker slide around the corner at top speed on half its wheels. Pull that off in viwe of the enemy and you won't even have to shoot they'd just give up

it IS believable, why ? because each wheel has independent propulsion, meaning that the front and back wheels can turn normally, while the middle wheels can use tank steering, and having made a vehicle that works on this principle in stormworks (a relatively realistic vehicle building game) I can guarantee you that it should be able to turn on a dime. (well, a dime big enough to fit a juggernaut on top.)

I always thought 60 KPH for an AT-AT was a bit...OPTIMISTIC

There's also the fact that the wheels are _individually articulated._

The amc-10rc can spin around in place like a tank and do some funky moves with its hydroneumatic suspension

It's length/width ratio is pretty close to 1, though. The Jugger's is... not.

Skid steering a ten-wheeled metal monster the size of an 18th century Man O' War would put a HUUUGE strain on the many, many transmissions. But sci-fi tech hand-waving means it's doable.

Y'know, AT-AT's do have more spectacle, but just as many Juggernauts forming an incoming tide of inevitability would have driven home how fucked the rebels were in the face of a galactic-scale military whose nose they had just bloodied. If the rebels had faced a group of tanks, each of which are the size of buildings, with the same hardware they had in the movie, it would have been an even more one-sided battle. The ice speeders would have been left on the ground while the handful of X-Wings were mobilized in their much-less useful ground attack role where all they basically have is their torpedoes. The Ion cannon would still be stuck firing up to keep the space clear of bombarding vehicles, so the rebels would have had handheld blasters and laser turrets. If the armor functions the way I think it does, the blasters would leave scoring but not penetrate and the lasers would merely make the plating comfortably warm to lean against in the frigid Hoth air. It wouldn't end up being a total walk in the park, Luke would be able to use his Force bullshit to know when to fire torpedoes at the compound wheels of the Juggernauts in order to wreck their steering. But, that only turns a Juggernaut into a large gun emplacement that will still disperse its troops with all of their hardware, just a little further from the Rebel base than they would have liked.

​@Bear Naff Well, the only reason they were not using X-Wings against the AT-ATs was because of atmospheric bs that effectively grounded them.

@@bearnaff9387 X wings can't operate well in Hoths cold hence the snow speeders. And yes space is on paper colder but it's a vacuum meaning losing heat isn't really an issue like it is in atmosphere.

That’s actually sort of interesting since, thermodynamically that doesn’t really make sense. Usually heat is a problem with machinery and space makes it difficult for machines to get rid of heat, decreasing thermal efficiency. You’d think something with reactors or SciFi thrusters like an X-Wing would produce a ton of waste heat (bad) and would need to get rid of it, something an atmosphere would excel at doing since it would act as a medium to disperse heat (good). Food for thought I guess.

@@bob38028 an X wing is designed for an environment where venting heat is as difficult. It's made to bleed out as much heat from its power plant and weapons as it possibly can because it operates in a vacuum. Toss it in an environment where Radiation isn't the only the only way to vent excess energy and you've got conviction with extremely cold and rapidly moving air and the design that let's it fly in vacuum without cooking its crew leads to icing issues and frozen parts because loosing heat is a lit faster and more effective with a medium to transfer energy through. A X wing is packing far far better weapons than a snow speeder if they could operate in Hoths atmosphere for any decent amount of time they'd have short work of a few AT-AT walkers it's also why the empire didn't say send some Tie fighter to provide air cover

the front and back wheels can turn normally, while the middle wheels can use tank steering, and having made a vehicle that works on this principle in stormworks (a relatively realistic vehicle building game) I can guarantee you that it should be able to turn on a dime. (well, a dime big enough to fit a juggernaut on top.)

Wheeled vehicles with neutral steering exist and are extremely weird > the french amx-10rc being an example

It was a party trick that the Sherman could do, but the T-34 and Pz IV could not.

It's not a "trick",but did require that the tracks go in opposite directions instead of merely breaking one side,the Panther could turn right on dime because of this,but in terms of how the Juggernaut would opperate,it would be a combination of this and how some,German ones for sure,half-tracks would have the track breaking on one side when the steering wheel was turned far enough.

@@NareshSinghOctagon I take it you are not a native English speaker? A "party trick" is a skill that is not common, may be not that useful, but can be impressive. The T-34 and Pz IV crews when they first saw a Sherman do that must have thought there was some damned sorcery going on, nay, witch craft even. The Germans may have encountered the Char B which could do it, but it was not a perfected system in that tank and so reliability was not the best.

That’s why the juggernauts got retired. I believe it was in a comic where it’s stated troops were waiting more than a year for spare parts and still weren’t getting them

Laser guided bombs would make the engagement exceptionally violent and incredibly brief, but it would certainly be spectacular.

@@fix0the0spade Yeah, that’s why I had to specify Ground Army, since modern aircraft are so OP

Just replace the aft turret with a CWIS unit and you're good.

@@SpectorOfDoomYT oooooo good idea

@@christophergillette7167 Fair point, but even so a whole bunch of Javelins would immobilise one of these eventually. Although it would be entertainging to watch Javelin teams attempting to lock onto this thing as it barrels past at 60mph.

It's relatively narrow compared to most tanks. I still think it should be able to pivot, but it's length-to-breadth ratio is going to make it much more difficult than it should be.

Yeah, there's a limited ratio of width to length that is practical for tracked vehicles which this almost is. In place steering on something this long is going to end up just dragging the outer wheels sideways against their traction. There's at least 3 things on this to help mitigate that a little: There's no tracks to pop off the wheels when you try it. If the front and rear wheels can turn a little they''ll only be moving mostly against the grain instead of entirely. The all-wheel drive of the segments of the inner wheels means they can get a lot more traction than normal for that tight a turn.

the front and back wheels can turn normally, while the middle wheels can use tank steering, and having made a vehicle that works on this principle in stormworks (a relatively realistic vehicle building game) I can guarantee you that it should be able to turn on a dime. (well, a dime big enough to fit a juggernaut on top.)

@@ledocteur7701 That's a pretty huge dime! Wait until Two-Face wants to step up from the world's largest penny!

I will mention that a tank requires two separate transmissions, one for each side, in order to turn like that. I will also mention that the Juggernaut, based on the listed specs, appears to have ten transmissions.

I mean… it’s 50 meters long, so you might not have the space to do that regardless in some circumstances.

I'm guessing the length/width ratio resulted in the fore/aft wheels augering in so hard as to be counterproductive.

I'll bet that the suspension can be controlled some. So being able to lift the front and rear wheels temporarily to tighten a skid turn like that may be possible.

The AT-AT is cheaper to man and transport; I have no idea how it compares in the maintenance department (although even with the Juggernaut's absurdly complicated transmission and suspension I wouldn't be surprised to see it come out ahead.) Point is, the sticker price is only part of what it takes to field a weapon system.

@@boobah5643 no its not. an atat requires special dropships that themselves requires a ship big enough to transport it, a juggernaut can be deployed by any craft big enough to carry it that has a ramp.

@@Genesis23OPB The AT-AT Does have the advantage of being able to make itself smaller (shorter) for easier transport, which the juggernaught can't. However much difference that does or doesn't make releative to everything else.

Where did you get those prices?

@@patchmoulton5438 wookiepedia

ramming is an effective strategy for this thing be it armored vehicles or fortifications.

well, there's some trade off between '300 troops' and 'heavily armed', but sure. It would be better if it hovered instead of having wheels, given that the tech used for hovering is used for everything from what amounts to 'beat up farm truck' through 'massive capital ship' for moving at speed in atmosphere. Seriously, any planitary vehicle in Star Wars that isn't using Repulsorlifts needs a damn good explaination for the apparent idiocy that is legs, wheels, or even tracks when that exists as an alternative.

@@laurencefraser IIRC repulsors could be affected by strong electromagnetic interference and were unusable on planets like Jabiim, which was the birthplace of the idea of the AT AT in Republic times

Tracked vehicles are typically a lot more square for a reason.

Maybe it's modular? Instead of dicking around w field disassembly you just yank the whole bastard and swap in a new one. Either way you're going to need mondo recovery equipment, but that way you get back in the fight, and the bad wheel can be sent for reman.

If I recall right the empire used them extensively as mobile garrisons on backwater planet and "tracking" them with mines so they couldn't move was the go to rebel tactics as they couldn't destroy the vehicle itself so they just blew off a few wheels drastically reducing the area the empire could control with them

I sincerely hope the wheel assemblies are modular.

​@@SacredCowShipyards knowing late Republic/Imperial logistics, that probably means they aren't

The other thing is that no matter how special those wheels are, something as heavy as this would still not be able to move over anything but solid rock type ground.

@@Ishlacorrin Walkers should be Worse for that on most terrain. Because whatever ground preassure problems a wheeled vehicle might have, your walker's going to have to have impractically huge feet. Meaning they're going to be Really Heavy, meaning the power needed to take steps is going to be massive, meaning the Drive System is going to be really heavy... at which point how much have we actually gained in the ground preassure department. This is what tracks are for, but they have a lot of downsides too... all of which are solved by... Repulsorlifts. ... Repulsorlifts are just flat out superior to any other option in all matters except Maybe dealing with recoil (one of the big flaws with any 'hovertank' design) unless your whole vehicle is so absurd that you can't give them enough power to do the job... ... ... now consider how Massive the starships that can use repulsors for take off and landing are. Yeah. Any Star Wars ground combat vehicle that isn't hovering was designed by an incompitent.

​@@laurencefraser About Repulsor lifts, they don't work everywhere - they cannot go through shield, they can't be used in electro-magnetic heavy interfirence and on some planets it is not viable due to poor conditions, enviromental and economic. + Some walkers can go up walls and Star Wars Galaxy has their own, different substantially, physics laws ams logic. So repulsor lifts can have several important reasons, that we either can't see with our logic or would not be considered as reasons at all. Also, I'm pretty sure I missing important details about repulsor lifts to make my case here... so unless I remember or find them, I could not give you more than this.

'traction' and 'ground pressure' both point towards a tracked vehicle. Admittedly, that makes 'maintenance' even worse... especially if you keep the speed up.

Yep. Once you stop and imagine just how insane it would be to do maintenance on a Turbo Tank, the AT-AT starts to make sense as a "simpler" alternative to wheels. Kuat Drive Yards: overengineering the wheel to the point that quadrupedal walkers start seeming reasonable.

Five main differentials, fifty secondary ones, and ten U-joints to join the unsprung parts to the chassis. You _know_ it’s gonna be a long day at the FOB when you see one of those bastards rolling into the shop for her regularly scheduled maintenance.

​​@@joshuahadams What makes more sense to me is that the whole thing is one massive EV. Each wheel cluster is powered off a single electric motor supplied from the main body so you don't actually have any diffs on the main body or U-Joints to worry about. At that point designing a limited slip clutch system for the 5 wheels in the cluster is way simpler and it also makes it easy to pull said clusters for maintenence or replacement. After all, this is Star Wars and they basically use fancy electric rocket engines anyway. It'd be way easier to design the tank around a similar power supply and just send that power to electric motors, rather than centralizing power output like a car or modern truck. Best modern analogy I could think of would be a train locotmive where a generator sends power to the traction motors that actually provide the propulsion. Maintenence would still suck, but it would be way easier than you're thinking.

@@leecline5759 i mean if you had it set right where the wheel clusters with the motor could be taken off as a single assembly and you had multiple interchangeable assemblies on hand you could probably pop the wheels replace them with ones already run through maintenance and then run maintenance on the ones you just swapped out given starwars position with droids and general tech level you could likely automate a lot of the process of routine maintenance as is

Yep, the imperial handbook actually details why they use walkers.

Just gimme those forward and rearward suspensions. First off the length to beam ratio on that thing isn't that far from a truck, so just letting the two front and rear wheels steer will provide plenty of off center propulsion and with limited slip wheels we can control and calibrate. None of the wheels will go out of balance. This daft thing should be able to turn on a literal dime. The wheels are around a meter wide but 5 layers thick. It's got all the independent driven wheels you can imagine. Second. If I just reduce the ground pressure being transferred to the fore and rearmost wheels in an urban environment and suddenly tank steering (combined with the antislip drive motors) makes the thing turn around within it's length! And because it's a literal armor brick on wheels, probably turn around through buildings in the way regardless. The problem with heavy wheeled machines has always been ground pressure. I dunno what ultralight alloys and component they used on that thing, but it should have a ground pressure worse than an. ATAT and thus get stuck in anything not a road. And probably has to avoid driving through buildings wholesale due to the existence of the things called 'substandard subsurface subfloors' Usually referred to as basements. Oddly enough. A wooden floor over a hole in the ground the size of a house is a rather effective tank trap and can capture entire tanks

There's a reason terrestrial tracked tanks are largely square when observed from overhead.

I'd argue that a Baneblade Scout Tank has greater firepower, this thing is just a big target on the 40K battlefield. But it is on the 40K side of the scale graph for sure.

@@Ishlacorrin just evade the fire and then just over run it with your mass🤣

@@chheinrich8486 drive closer I whish to hit them with my light Saber. Darth Vader probably

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Ishlacorrin Not really- the laser cannon and rockets would probably disable or possibly destroy a Baneblade, although it would probably be pretty heavily damaged as well. Along with that, it also can have infantry and lighter vehicles, which would pose an issue for the Baneblade. Also it is just better in a non-combat sense- it is significantly faster (about 5x faster), it can act as a FOB for a force, carry supplies, act as an observation post- basically it can do pretty much anything a vehicle can that isn’t anti-Titan-class roles. Edit: Along with that, the Baneblade is going to be shot from above, since the Juggernaut is so massive. And some counterpoints for my argument- The Juggernaut’s weapons are mostly mounted on the top, and if the Baneblade got close, it just cannot shoot it. The Juggernaut basically can’t turn, and most of its weapons are not anti-tank. The Baneblade has very effective armor, although as said before, the top armor is what is being shot, and it tends to be weaker. The BB also just has more firepower, but the Juggernaut literally has a BUNKER in it, and will be able to tank a few shots from a Baneblade. wow i did not mean to write this much. sorry.

@@BuilderB08 The speed is one I would call BS too on anything but paved roads. We know from real world examples that vehicles that size just do not drive well over soft ground let alone a battlefield.

A Mk XXXII? Weird choice, IMO, since the XXXIII gets all the glory from being the main-line machine during the Final War. The real problem is that Bolos are _expensive_ and deploying more than a company (twelve units) for a single operation is virtually unheard of; any planet that can survive a company of Bolos is probably too well defended to land the things in the first place. Which is to say that _of course_ a Bolo will beat a Juggernaut in a one-on-one; it's just that it won't be a one-on-one until after the Bolo has taken out the first fifty or whatever Juggernauts. There's a reason late model Bolos are designated Planetary Siege Units.

To quote from the cross-section page displayed in the video ‘Either cockpit can assume full control, which has lead to much debate among Juggernaut clone crews as to which cockpit is the true “front” end.’

It swings both ways.

Mmm, yeah. Just open up the side hatch, throw up some lawn chairs, and watch the sun rise, followed by another sunrise.

​@@agentbullwinkle991>>> 👍👍

no turbotank was a weird name from a lego set the official name is HAVw A6 Juggernaut

The Hldolfr sounds kind of like the Ratte

@@ExplosiveFloofBall If I recall Turbo tank was due to legal issues with using the name Juggernaut with toys. I blame Marvel

The YMT-05 Hildolfr from MS Gundam Igloo is damn cool.

@@jtfbreedlove so is the Guntank line except the Guntank 2.

Eh, the Old Republic had Acclimators falling out of weird cracks in space.

And, given its length/width ratio, as long as you don't mind tearing up... /everything/.

@@SacredCowShipyards Since when did the Empire care about that? :)

RotS, we have a scene where we can see a few roll across a beach, firing rockets. They are also an Empire unit in Empire at War being one tech level lower than AT-ATs, I think but are primarily troop transports and anti missle platforms.

They appeared on Kashyyyk in Ep3, though briefly.

Is long.

Modularity FTW.

Glad you enjoyed them!

@@SacredCowShipyards Love how you went from "us humies" to "you squishees" i can really see how much your shipyard has progressed.

There's no doubt it could down a Blockade Runner if it was low enough.