I think they should have Jordan be the focus of the thumbnails and then have a shrunken down tiny Jarvis sitting on his shoulder. I believe that this will spike viewer engagement by 1,000,000,000,000,000%

jordan doesn't even know that there is a 3rd supernatural brother

As a woman, the “man written by a woman” guy made me laugh so gd hard and caused me genuine discomfort 😭 whenever the internet says a dude is the “female gaze” or “written by a woman” it’s almost always some guy exploiting basic levels of empathy for women and expecting applause for it.

In trying to "fit in" with guys as a trans guy, it's difficult to not fall into the toxic, anti-emotion culture. I do really appreciate the example you two have added to the online world

Nothing like a 2+ hour episode to make my night shift as a guard at the Ugly Museum a little more bearable

I'm so sad you used the original of "guys raised by their dad/mom" tiktok, because I saw one that had the stitch "guys raised by flies" and it made sitting through the original worth it lol

My favorite part of Sad Boyz is Jordan saying whatever he wants and Jarvis going I’m not commenting on this.

the ways men romanticize their own emotional repression is just really unsettling when you zoom out to the bigger picture

Cole is defo transphobic he also gives props to Dave Chappelle in his most recent project along with transphbic lines 🤷🏻

Laughing so hard at them curled up on the couch trying to squeeze the name Brian K Vaughan from their brains

jarvis breaking down in laughter at the MENTION of the jojo siwa scary dance made me laugh so hard

I laughed so hard at jarvis and jordan carefully listening with their mics out to Anastasia when she said "as a woman" immediately followed up with "Shut up dude! we're- we're- this is for the boys!" from Jordan

Shout out to Jacob for making the ketamine joke 😂 I was practically shouting the same thing at my screen 😂😂😂

Stopping framing specific food as bad and wrong is actually like the first real step to breaking the cycle of "indulging" in the habit. It's honestly amazing how your perception of food can change when you put in the work to treat it more neutrally or better still to honour the cravings you're having. It's like, when its bad and youre seeing it that way you kinda push yourself to have it cause this'll be the last time or whatever. When you see that eating an entire pizza is in fact a neutral act your desire for it wanes. You can have it whenever and knowing that makes you want it less. Bingeing is born from restriction - physical or mental. Im not explaining it the best but i do sincerely hope the best for you in your relationship with food.

I'm a trans guy who really appreciates the space y'all have created here. I've always struggled to discuss my feelings, but the openly emotional and empathetic conversations you have are a good model for what I can have with my own friends.

Just want to say as a dude in his late 20s, I love this podcast. The vulnerability you guys show makes me realize I'm not alone in having bad days or times and more importantly it reminds me that my life isn't falling apart or over just because I'm dealing with these things at this time. Thanks boyz, Sad or Happy :)

Demographic check in: every week listener, old enough to be either of your dads. Please focus content on stuff I care about like "The difference between Foreigner and REO Speedwagon," "comfortable shoes," and "why the kids are the way they are these days it's probably Grand Theft Auto." Thank you for reading your comments.

he was written by a woman: colleen hoover

The episode where Jarvis takes any excuse to sing and Jordan takes any excuse to say “Hey bub”

When Jordan said “scary dance” after Jarvis talking about Olivia Rodrigo, I was so confused as to what scary dance Olivia was doing lol

The way my feelings on the grave cleaner spiked after you mentioned it was in Puerto Rico... I went from like "Yeah kind of a weird vibe" to a "NO" that was from the heart. People just love to engage with the ~uwu tragedy and struggle~~ of PR without engaging with it as a place where human people live and deal with the effects of climate catastrophe and US colonization.

Jarvis I think you mixed "The 4400" with "The 100". It's from 2014, but that's one where a small group of people come back to earth.

The guy learning what love is and immediately pivoting to being abusive about it is so real though.

> Nobody wants to hear anyone out The newest Philosophy Tube video (the one about the most misunderstood philosopher) is about exactly this issue. The "anti-woke" kind of people are fully ideologically opposed to listening to other people. Highly recommend watching that video!

It didn’t appear that the individual who was cleaning the gravestones had permission, which if true, is absolutely WRONG.

Jordan’s hair looks especially magnificent here

1:44:36 anastasia as the resident woman is the best sadboyz meme. get her a doctor's coat for this residency

25:45 the best/worst example I have experienced is hatred towards asexual people. You know the people who don’t experience sexual attraction to ANYONE. The people who’s entire thing is not being sexually attracted to you somehow gets hate. Like they just want to enjoy their garlic bread and cake in peace 😭😭

As a guy listener for the past year or so, even though I have good friendships and connections where I can be open about things, seeing it reflected in content is still very pleasant

i’ve been calling myself the [blank] bastard constantly lately, thanks for infiltrating my vocabulary jordan

Thank you Jordan for shouting out The Leftovers! It's one of my absolute favorite shows. Also I think Jarvis might have been thinking of The 100. That show is about 100 survivors in the post apocalypse. Although one of them dies like almost immediately.

I never comment but I want convey how much I appreciate you both and this podcast. I have Ehlers Danlos (hEDS) 🦓. The amount of comfort ive gotten from this episode is amazing. I have the exact same internal conversation about my sleep every night. I convince myself I have to “earn” my pain or sleep meds. Just watching Jordan’s many obtuse sitting positions makes me feel SO seen, haha! I’m always positioning myself in weird ways to just just stay in the chair or couch 😂 loosy-goosy EDS joints! Thank you Jordan & Jarvis for helping to make all these subjects safe and comfy to deal with. 💙

"I'm..a little teapot." XD and Olay & Lolo seem nice nice. Recently started watching them and it was nice to see them on. Also, I'm a woman, but I hope more guys find your channel as well. I have three nephews, with the oldest going to turn ten this year, and it'd be nice if your podcast also inspires more creators to be healthy examples of masculinity as well. Hope your channel will grow into what you imagine for it. It's been a good ride so far

Loving the mini Afro, Jordan. Looks sick

this was the saddest boys ive ever seen

The Buttker conversation missed the part where the CATHOLIC, BENEDICTINE NUNS from the college released an official statement that basically read "Nah. He doesnt speak for us."

it's so refreshing to hear how thoughtful and understanding you guys are in all of your conversations. very funny and entertaining but also demonstrate a level of empathy that not many other people express

Just realized today that I wasn't subbed. I have been an avid watcher for the past year and a half, the vids get recommended to me day of release. Glad to have rectified this

I love how at the end Jarvis just started doing impromptu karaoke at every opportunity

8:35 "you're 4 days late and it's a barmitzvah" fucking GOLD

Hey Jordan and Jarvis! I'm a male who loves your videos and listening to your perspectives on things. I don't know how you guys manage to balance charm, humor and intellectual conversation all at once but it's so great to watch. I really admire you guys and I really appreciate everything you do. ❤❤

The 4400 was rebooted a few years ago, it did in fact not get a second season.

1:05:00 the kindergarten fart joke right after the intense conversation about intentions online killed me so unexpected, so seriously stated, so funny

I agree with Anastasia(sorry if I spelled it wrong)….that is super scary for a man to act that intensely towards a woman…..it’s low-key possessive on his end

Honestly I blame BookTok for this guy. Like they’re all _obsessed_ with the romance novels Anastasia mentioned, where the male romantic leads are always borderline if not overtly abusive and weird. I’ll never understand it

Loved Jarvis and Jordan's reenactment of that tiktok. I too would have ragdolled out of the situation if a dude kept rubbing my face like a genie lamp while asking "Whats wrong" 😂 Plus why are they blocking the hallway of an apartment? Doesn't it kind of ruin the moment if you have people stepping over you?

Came for AI girlfriend stayed for grief counselling (that episode is my favorite by far and heal something in me, thank you u

Just got home from work, got a burger, a blunt, and I’m SO ready for this episode of sad boyz

Video has been out for 5 hours and NLT is currently up to 15k spotify monthly listeners. We can make this happen.

Loving the black white outfits

jordan's impressions were unbelievably good this ep

14:37 I thought Jarvis was gonna say "as a Young Sheldon" because of the previous conversation 😭

You said “the average listener who’s like… doing their art homework” as I’m drawing digitally while listening to sad boys after MONTHS of no drawing. And my heart dropped to my ass and I had to comment because HOW DID YOU KNOW JARVIS

I have also started new medication recently and its nice to hear Jordan is dealing with a similar experience. Thanks for calming me down fellas

B/c I haven't watched it in a long time, I legitimately paused and searched Snl papyrus hoping to see Ryan Gosling go, "Nya-ha-haaaaaaa!"

Can confirm lattice hashbrowns in burrito is the move , so crunchy 👏👏 I make them basically every weekend for breakfast

The Matrix Online was so fun. I was only a kid so I wasn't allowed to properly play it, but I remember playing it with my dad moderating me (mostly just sitting there and helping me remember what I was doing lol) and it was great. He also met 2 of his lifelong best friends in there!

wanted to say, as someone whos recently wanted to present more masculine, you guys have been a great example of healthy masculinity for me

personally as a transmasc person, i find a lot of comfort in sad boyz in the sense that it feels like i'm hanging out with The Guys, which is gender affirming for me!!

most tragic thing is my mom loves young sheldon and will at times excitedly mention something that happens on the show as reminding her of me (im autistic) and the most painful part about it is that when she describes what reminded her of me shes right its something i do T-T fucking roasted me while trying to be sincere so i cant even say anytihng

lets go dude. 2 hour episode

tell me why I went to look for the new vid and it was uploaded 30 seconds ago….. I’m tapped into the mainframe

Time to listen to this while I doodle for 2 hours 🙄🤚🏻

jarvis is a man who loves phrases and idioms and I love him for it

genuinely love when the whole crew participates in the episode (anastasia and jacob) so the later half of this vid was very fun

Pausing just to say to Jordan that Hades hit me in exactly rhe same way at the same time in my life. Saving Hades 2 as well and trying to avoid knowing anything before 1.0 at least! its hard but i feel you on wanting to give it like, the best shot at impacting me emotionally like Hades 1 did. Supergiant is a rare studio and i'm hoping it hits with its first sequel

omg I was out in Lisbon the night the comet flew over. I stepped out to get some fresh air with a friend and we just fucking saw the comet WITH ZERO CONTEXT and kinda were like ...... is this a once in a life time moment or has someone just shot a missile lol.

Circa 2000, there was a boy-band product called B4-4 (because there were 3 of them). I was working my first job at a multiplex movie theatre in Richmond Hill, Ontario the summer before college. Due to the nature of the job, we had a printed schedule of when each showing ended so we could figure out which theatres to clean in what order. So my co-worker and I are walking down the corridor, and I'm looking at the schedule when some rando with frosted tips yoinks it out of my hand while his two buddies erupt in laughter. I demand it back, and when they try to start a game of keep-away with it, I threaten to summon someone to expel them from the premises. They all got faux sad, then ran down the hall to 'sneak into' a showing of Chicken Run (didn't care, not my problem). Once they were gone, my friend leans over and says, "Don't you recognize those guys? They're B4-4." To which I replied, "Figures. They're twats." And that's how I met a boy band.

The number one thing that is missing in breakfast burritos is hollandaise sauce. It's crazy the media never talks about it

i just wanna say like. how much i love these podcasts, its let me slow down and kinda space out and feel like im just around a buncha friends, chatting. its like so welcoming

Love the Sad Boyz. Found you all through Ludwig and have quickly started consuming your backlog and your Patreon content. Jarvis and Jordan speaking about treating yourself with empathy and compassion was a huge wake up call for me as an adult on the spectrum and as a trans woman who's closing in on 30. 💜

as a woman who is a fan of your podcast i am happy that you are trying to reach the boys😂 help is appreciated and welcomed at this point

Jarvis need to drop an album where he just sings covers of his favorite songs cause holy shit can that man sing

was not expecting a 2024 homestuck mention

If there are potatos on a burrito it needs sauce or it’ll suck the moisture out of your mouth lol

The 4400 was about 4400 people that had “gone missing” from the earth, pulled out of time. All 4400 are returned to earth at the same time. Edit: Oh…they just watched the intro.

Jarvis, we put potatoes in breakfast burritos because it tastes good

25:15 mildly terrifying that jordan knows what homestuck is

I’ve been watching all the old content catching up in no order just at the mercy of the algorithm; seeing a new episode I can comment on made me smile wtf is this parasocial satisfaction

I was so happy when I found out my little brother started listening to yall!!! I love that yall are such positive role models and just cool guys

Regarding Anastasia’s points on the intensity of “man written by a woman”, i think this is something I’ve noticed online more and more over the years. People yearning for this entirely intense, performative relationship… not knowing how a relationship actually is. We are very disconnected from one another. Time is constantly feeling like it’s running out. The world is not nearly as kind as we once thought it was. So, when we find someone we want to have in our lives, people tend to want this intense “all or nothing” attitude with people. Friends can’t just be people you see every once in a a while, they need to be there all the time and hangout every week. Romantic partnership can’t be an exploratory experience, it needs to be marriage “we loved happily ever after”. What I’m saying is people yearn for intense experiences because they don’t even get regular experiences. We want it all or none at all, it seems. And it’s sad that people don’t know what it’s like to be just okay with things as is. Adding on to this, the later conversations of what people “truly want” in the pod is exactly what I wish people online understood. Maybe they do understand. Maybe they can separate reality from the internet/fiction. But I’m not entirely sure if younger people get that nuance. That this is all simply fantasy and that the real people around you are cool and good (most of the time). Media literacy is at an all time low, and I wonder if we did it to ourselves… More Anastasia please!!

1:06:40 I always love hearing what Jarvis & Jordan wanted to reach with this podcast. While for me I love it for the opposite, kinda? When talking about more emotional things with friends, I find it very hard to switch back to lighter content. Having this podcast is a great way for me to learn this aspect.

When I leave the house for a longer time I put the sad boys playlist on for my cat. Hope it helps with engagement.

1:51:57 the fact that this is a Vampire Diaries quote. I knew I remembered this from somewhere!!

re: the audience reaction to the different thumbnails, not sure if it helps cause i know questioning oneself is rarely cured by logic but y’ anyways. i find that as a part of the audience myself, tend to have a very “parent of a couple of children i want to make sure feel loved equally” type reaction, trying to make sure all of them are getting the very same size of piece of pie ? i.e., as a smosh viewer, when there’s a bunch of the cast in a video, and people mostly underline like. half of the cast’s moments, i go out if my way, even if it’s just tossing a coin in the void, to show that i noticed other members’ moments, just in case they check comment and all of that ? i’m not an active part of the sadboyz enjoyer community, but i’ve always felt the more simply taking the show as it is and enjoying it (the cool part of the community according to moi haha) enjoys your contribution and your presence online equally / take them as what they are. again, little coin in the void (both i. a sea of comments and in the depth of the irrationality of questioning oneself, but i kind of believe this is the same sentiment for the commenters you guys briefly mentionned, making sure you both feel appreciated wether you’re “”promoted”” more or not, and i don’t think this sentiment in the comments is truly motivated at any point by their enjoyment of the show, more like. an instinct to treat to equal parts of the project equally and ensure they feel it that way !

1:11:02 Wild to remember that Hank Green started Subbable before Patreon began, but he was just too early for people to adopt it

The new branding is so cute and very "on brand" if that makes sense. I love it so much!

Jarvis's take on disliking potatoes in breakfast burritos like it combines all of the classic breakfast options into one. But I see what you're saying, like it takes work to have the right potatoes. But it is messed up that it's a giant cylinder of potato thats too much.

Remember watching the 4400 on Netflix in like 2013 when Netflix still felt kinda early and I remember how it got increasingly more unhinged over time

YES I GOT THE SCARY BIKINI WOMAN WALKING ACROSS MY SEARCH BAR AS A 5 YEAR OLD AND I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

so I had a glee and glee cast special interest for like seven years and hearing jarvis recite glee cast lore that I have come to believe only lives in my head was wild

Jarvis, I’ve been watching you for years, I’ve always thought you were a great person with top tier opinions, and then today you finally said something that REALLY rubbed me the wrong way :/ POTATOES IN BREAKFAST BURRITOS IS THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE A BREAKFAST BURRITO IT IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. I hope this was just a momentary lapse of judgement on your part 😔 (In case it wasn’t obvious, I’m joking, love your content and will continue to support you even tho we will never agree on the proper contents of a breakfast burrito)

Anyone else remember all the marketing around Left Behind before the TV release in the early 2000s or is my memory tainted by my heavily religious grandparents seeking stuff out? I don't know if I ever watched it but I have vivid memories of the little clip of the plane crashing bc the pilot got raptured lol. Kind of the opposite of the 4400

Isnt the whole Karma cringe thing of the 'other singer' a way for them to cover for the alleged abuse that came out? Like. Nowhere near her birthday did an "im an adult now!" thing and started the super meme-able changes shortly after a chronically ill kid in her show came forward about about lack of pay and alleged abuse? Like theyre purposefully cringe so memes flood searches of her name instead of the allegations. Obviously doesnt deserve hate for the meme-able stuff, but like... Theres plenty of legit stuff to critique

I always put potato in my breakfast burrito at home, but I cut them up into lil 1/4"cubes and fry them with paprika and salt and I think thats pretty good.

1:30:12 i am in fact a nerd who has studied cryptography & do know the Caesar cipher! i particularly like the Hill cipher!

As a boy who's almost 18 and has been listening for pretty much 2 years.... you're doing a good job with the demographic thing

My favorite podcast Ice breaker is explaining something you half remember

I have the exact same situation as Jordan! I’m doing well with my mental healthy and my meds, but I cannot get my sleep schedule right even though it’s very clearly messed up for years now. Also I’m a super night owl, once it hits evening my brain turns on and I get a ton of work done. Anything before that I’m just slow and unproductive

Made it in under five minutes! So excited for my sad boys