Steve Coll, author of "The Achilles Trap," talks to CNN's Christiane Amanpour about what Saddam Hussein misunderstood about America ahead of the 2003 invasion. #CNN #News
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@uchennaabosi76513 ай бұрын
It's not a blunder madam, it was a crime.
@user-yn8jy1lt6q3 ай бұрын
Basic moral facts are not allowed on CNN.
@sinner1869513 ай бұрын
Both blunder and crime.
@abulkalammusthafa3 ай бұрын
worst war crime
@user-yn8jy1lt6q3 ай бұрын
@@sinner186951 Which part was a blunder? What was the mistake?
@Muz8893 ай бұрын
And it wasn't a war. It was an invasion
@moremidimetri35543 ай бұрын
If he had those weapons, American will never attack. He never did. They knew at the time.
@SomeMan0013 ай бұрын
It was to steal the gold of Iraq as we all saw the photos of US soldiers with huge piles of Iraqi gold.
@CaDzA8183 ай бұрын
They don't care, it was just about taking resources.
@bigtimepimpin6663 ай бұрын
@@SomeMan001yes, the US spent 20 billion dollars to get 20 million worth of gold bars... did your parents have any children that lived???
@lqr8243 ай бұрын
@@bigtimepimpin666 The total cost of the war was more like $1 trillion. $1,000 billion.
@lqr8243 ай бұрын
@@SomeMan001 > It was to steal the gold of Iraq as we all saw the photos of US soldiers with huge piles of Iraqi gold. Could you share a link? I've never seen such photos.
@user-rn4kr5iv2p3 ай бұрын
not a blunder, but a crime and you were complicit
@Tech.Library3 ай бұрын
Iraq should sue the U. S at international court and claim for $100 trillion compensation
@zeek7653 ай бұрын
And claimed back : OIL and Gold !!!!!!
@KAAN_TR3 ай бұрын
You can’t sue usa at international court
@alancantu25573 ай бұрын
It’s 2024 and you still believe in international institutions’ ability to enforce anything? 🤣
@thealhayy2 ай бұрын
Like ICJ will listen to them. Oh come on buddy
@bucktis93 ай бұрын
When criticism of Israel upsets some people more than the genocide of 30,000 innocent civilians ~ Being lost for words is an understatement ~
@Stevef20223 ай бұрын
How many Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants are dead along the 30,000?
@elizabethflynr75613 ай бұрын
And how! People getting nuttier and nuttier! Thanks for your reasonable , sane and thoughtful comment!
@SouthsideEnglewoods3 ай бұрын
Right
@Stevef20223 ай бұрын
How many Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants are among the 30,000 dead in Gaza?
@Stevef20223 ай бұрын
What is the ratio of Hamas & Islamic Jihad militants compared to civilians who have died in Gaza?
@Touchlineteaser3 ай бұрын
“He deceives, he delays, he denies.” Sounds like he could be talking about any US president.
@EddieEads3 ай бұрын
The irony 🤣
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music3 ай бұрын
Says a Russian government propaganda worker.
@Summitic3 ай бұрын
US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. ... In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks. More than 60 US Defense Intelligence Agency officers provided combat planning assistance.... Saddam was a CIA and MI6 Project !
@janetmccusker91853 ай бұрын
We all knew who was in power then it was baby Bush and daddy bush
@seanrowshandel16803 ай бұрын
Nobody "saves" w3apons "for later". So it's clear what was going on, but I just don't understand why anyone cared. It seems like The Bad Kids got paranoid and incited the anger of foreigners and even Iranians. It's all a bunch of nonsense that stemmed from bad education. Naturally it led to war. Teachers define "neutrality". People listen to wives' tales too much (because their unmarried mom won't stop repeating them), and THAT'S why the war took so long: if it's hard to tell when you're being rebellious and when you're not, you better go off to war and never be seen again (just kidding, I'm a teacher after all, aren't I? I couldn't say such a thing.).
@sufiahmed1003 ай бұрын
They lied, it was about Oil.
@carolinemuoio83043 ай бұрын
Israel wanted the war
@user-eu5ji8og6b3 ай бұрын
um you really don't know? The WMD plot was hoax to get Saddam out of power after he invaded Kuwait If you were right and it was about oil which is is not then that mean you consumed the oil and are the real perp lol
@zeek7653 ай бұрын
And GOLD !!!
@sufiahmed1003 ай бұрын
Correct 👍
@alancantu25573 ай бұрын
No it wasn’t. It was for Israel’s protection. Had it been about securing oil, it would’ve been perhaps worth it, even though most of our oil was already coming from a secure Saudi Arabia. Look up the Clean Break Memo for more info. Written by fierce Zionist Jewish think tank policy makers Richard Perle, David Wurmser, and Douglas Feith, the memo was composed for Netanyahu in 1996 and it outlines the top priorities for securing Israeli interests in the 21st century. The gist of the paper was that it suggested Iraq, Syria, and Iran be invaded and toppled IN THAT ORDER. The craziest part? All 3 authors of the Clean Break Memo ended up serving in the Bush admin and overseeing the invasion of Iraq. Then, of course, the civil war in Syria started with heavy US/Israeli involvement, and now they are trying to topple Iran. Don’t make it any more complicated than it needs to be. It’s not about oil. It’s not about democracy or human rights, especially because the US explicitly supported Saddam in the 80s. The US didn’t suddenly have a change of heart and become enlightened. It’s about protecting Israel. Simple as that.
@pa74473 ай бұрын
He possessed the 3rd largest reserves of oil in the world That was the real reason. It's like the reason why someone moves a pro football team to another city.
@ShootRapids3 ай бұрын
And after war China was the biggest oil trade partner for Iraq… sorry to ruin your theory 😅
@thewolfofswingthat20353 ай бұрын
@@ShootRapids China bought it from exxonmobil. Exxon was the one that profited from the contracts to drill the oil. China got the oil but they have to pay for it, in USD.
@ryancasey9193 ай бұрын
Should have been called “Operation Iraqi Liberation” (O.I.L) I recently watched the video of troops chaotically taking down his statue. It’s so embarrassing now. I cringed and face palmed. A bunch of cowboys making a huge mess of things.
@markokrompic3 ай бұрын
@@ShootRapidsSo no oil from Iraq is coming to US?And no other country in the world is forced to buy Iraq oil and not to buy Russian oil?You should inform yourself what US ambassadors are doing around the world and how they are pushing sovereign leaders to do what they want and how US world dominance is functioning.But hey which American knows what each senator is doing inside US and what is each of 200 amabasors doing in each county.
@user-bs3vs2dm8b3 ай бұрын
Saddams son Uday he was guilty of rape, murder, and torture of little girls
@basfarissah80043 ай бұрын
The blood of innocent civilians who perished during the US unjustified invasion of Iraq will always be on George Bush's hands and will haunt him until his final breath.😢😢😢
@aljay29553 ай бұрын
I doubt he even thinks about it but I remember when the US started that war and told myself "this is wrong there is no justification for this invasion."
@dwizzle21323 ай бұрын
does saddam have any blood on his hands from his killings of civilians?
@friendship99043 ай бұрын
@@dwizzle2132did sudden Hassan hired Isis and didn't forget sudden Hassan was hired by the USA and Israel he worked for G W bush for a long time
@richarde68173 ай бұрын
Yes he has...
@get2dachoppa2493 ай бұрын
No, they won't.
@johnjonathan73123 ай бұрын
U knew, Iraqis knew, the whole world knew that Iraq doesn't have it. It was never about these weapons
@Ogofor39133 ай бұрын
SOME WAR CRIMINALS LIVING THEIR LIVES LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED. But other with much less crimes are quickly sanctioned or ordered to be arrested for trial.
@alejandronopasanada53023 ай бұрын
Every time they come out with something, I think of Snowden and Assange.
@davidhollenshead48923 ай бұрын
@@alejandronopasanada5302 Assange released intelligence which allowed for the "Assets" of the CIA to be identified and eliminated. Colin Powell was right...
@lordchaa15983 ай бұрын
This piece is 20 years to late unfortunately. I’ll never forgive our government and certain citizens for the way they treated anyone who was anti Iraq War at the time. I lost so many friends over there, all for a petulant child coming in and finishing what his father failed to do.
@lordchaa15983 ай бұрын
Our generation was deemed expendable. All so the US could go in and protect and take Iraqs Oil and Oil refineries.
@aljay29553 ай бұрын
No actually the Democrat party railed against Bush Sr because they created a false story for political purposes that he should have gone into Iraq. They never stopped using it as a political tool. Then when Bush Jr was elected he did go into Iraq because of the Democrat BS about his father. I remember it like it was yesterday.
@zaprowsdower94713 ай бұрын
"I’ll never forgive our government and certain citizens for the way they treated anyone who was anti Iraq War" Recall the treatment Janeane Garofalo received at the hands of the war obsessed right wing? How she was mercilessly mocked and ridiculed for even suggesting that "hey, hold on a second, maybe dropping bombs on innocent people and invading the wrong country isn't such a great idea after all?" GWB admin was an unparalleled epic disaster. Imagine the pain, death, suffering that could have been averted were Al Gore pres. The Iraq war is what happens when your country is tricked into handing the reigns of power over to a developmentally disabled drunken frat-boy
@babupasha34913 ай бұрын
Without Satan's involved no war's
@janetmccusker91853 ай бұрын
Absolutely right that's what they did it was all about money and our guys died for them doing that it was wrong Annie wars wrong we have not learned our lesson yet we should never buy any circumstances listen to a idiot president like Donald Trump to go to war for that piece of s*** because that's what he wants to do when he gets in the office
@TimelessTyranny3 ай бұрын
I'm 64 yrs old. I remember one time on the news before Saddam invaded Kuwait, there was a news broadcast that showed a female member of bushes cabinet met with Saddam, and he asked point-blank if I invade Kuwait will the USA interfere, and he was told NO! It never aired again but was on one of the major news broadcast's at the time.
@pjc87guy3 ай бұрын
Haliburton was given control over Iraq before war was declared, and the newspaper article on it was buried way back in the paper, and so it goes.
@mandarinandthetenrings22013 ай бұрын
You don't understand since the 1960's the American CIA laid out a "white paper" who was long term threat in Middle East. It was non-secular "Ba'ath" because of their education system and ability to maintain large western armies.
@mandarinandthetenrings22013 ай бұрын
So Nassar of Egypt is mysteriously assassinated. George W. Bush invades Iraq and take out Saddam Hussain why? It was believe even before the Iran/Iraq ended that he would invade the Southern Arab kingdoms. Then the west joins in the Syria Civil War to break apart al-Assad's Ba'ath party. If you look at what has happen the American CIA has gotten it's way and in removing the "Ba'ath party" in the Middle East.
@lukkyluciano3 ай бұрын
amazing how you twist this story. But so have many people over the years to make Miss Glaspie a scapegoat. She may have given an opinion she should not have but she didnt say anything close to what you say. #1 she was not a cabinet member, she was the US Ambassador to Iraq speaking to the President of Iraq. A Cabinet member would know exactly what the President's opinion is, Miss Glaspie, an Ambassador in a country we had relations with for 5 entire years , would not. She reiterated a diplomatic opinion from the 1960s, that US diplomatic staff should express no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts. Some people see this as her giving a green light but fail to read the next paragraph where she asks his intentions, which he doesnt give a straight answer to. He says Iraq has a right to prosper and lists some grievances, Arab bs. She then MAKES IT CLEAR the US will protect it's interests but doesnt spell out what that means because even Bush didnt know what that meant at that point, clearly she was told to go there and say that when Saddam summoned her. #2 Saddam never mentions he intends to invade Kuwait but by July 1990, a week before he invaded, it was pretty obvious in the same way in retrospect it was clear Russia was going to invade Ukraine, massive troop build ups on the border. Saddam painted Kuwait as the aggressor and says to her after she makes it clear the USA will protect it's interests. Saddam: "We do not ask people not to be concerned when peace is at issue. This is a noble human feeling which we all feel. It is natural for you as a superpower to be concerned. But what we ask is not to express your concern in a way that would make an aggressor believe that he is getting support for his aggression." #3 you can't go back and watch it because it never aired on television, not in Iraq, not here in the US. You never saw what you think you saw. There is no known tape of them talking, if someone taped it, it would of been Saddam himself for his own reasons which is possible I guess but it's never been released. You may have seen her testify to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee a year later after the war ended and repeat what she said but you didnt see footage of April Glaspie speaking to Saddam on on July 25 1990 on any news . The entire transcript is available to read online in many places, but there never was or never will be a tape to confirm what is said. You wont find many television crews in meetings between Ambassadors and Heads of States. Anywhere. Let alone the middle east. Thanks to wikileaks you can read the cable she sent back after the meeting, that we arent supposed to be able to see. It's clear she didnt believe invasion was coming a week later and Bush would need to create a coalition with Arabs in it to expel Iraq from Kuwait. Let's also remember the US won this war handily. Arguably the most successful large-scale military operation the US has ever executed, the only reason people remember her is because what happened later.
@larsrons79373 ай бұрын
I too saw that broadcast, and it was referred to in the newspapers the next day. I still keep those articles. [Edit] I could have seen it on CNN but I believe it was on BBC World that I saw it. Those two channels were the only international news TV options I had at that time.
@ryancasey9193 ай бұрын
Release the tapes, please!
@5678plm3 ай бұрын
You accused him using lies, and he refused to deny, the burden of proof was on you not him
@user-jg1tg4fd2m3 ай бұрын
did he just say that Israel conspired with Khomeini against sadam and that Khomeini is a US product . Am I the only one that finds this disturbingly shocking !!
@Tribuneoftheplebs3 ай бұрын
He is saying that is what Saddam thought of Khomenei
@lymitutit30463 ай бұрын
NO. Sadam thought that Israelis was conspiring with Iran against him.
@TheCinderellaman103 ай бұрын
Who toppled the Shah of Iran? Who did the US back in Iran to overthrow the Shah? It definitely was the Ayatollah
@user-jg1tg4fd2m3 ай бұрын
the same Ayatollah that is so called the enemy of the United States currently
@Rudolf_Bottler3 ай бұрын
Iran is an absolute ally of the USA in terms of reaching its goals by playing the game
@MrBassflute3 ай бұрын
And my proudest moment as a Canadian came when our Prime Minister at the time, the venerable Jean Chrétien, whom I never actually voted for, stood up to Tony Blair and George Bush and said ‘no’. That took a LOT of guts, for a small country like Canada, whose leaders generally bend over to the US and the UKs every whim and and only ask ‘is this is far enough’? We were not part of this, Chrétien made sure of it, and he was the only one of the three that was right. A great moment in Canadian history.
@user-sg6nc1is3j3 ай бұрын
Nice piece
@user-sg6nc1is3j3 ай бұрын
Nice piece
@labib19903 ай бұрын
He said Sooory, then no.
@tradingliveG3 ай бұрын
but you guys still arming Israel, different country same shit lol.
@moos52213 ай бұрын
I remember that in Germany it was official common knowledge at the time that Iraq does NOT possess the weapons of mass destruction that the CIA claimed they had and that the intel provided by the CIA was fake. Sadly nobody cared about what Germany said.
@snakejuce3 ай бұрын
It's fascinating the utter disconnect Americans on average seem to have. They can readily admit the IRAQ INVASION WAS/IS a CRIME, yet they'll close their eyes, ears, and hearts when it comes to America aiding and abetting a genocide in Occupied Palestine.
@michaelndungu63033 ай бұрын
Not blunder but crime against humanity
@salman4063 ай бұрын
As an iraqi who was born in iraq in 93's raised and witnessed and experienced the war of 2003! I must say it's the worst as we fall a victim instead we had to pay the price unfortunately. " Iraqi war will scar me for life ".
@davidhollenshead48923 ай бұрын
I wish that your region had never been under the British & French plan for the former Ottoman Empire. That's when the European Colonialism games started... A few years before you were born, I knew an Iraqi who would buy pharmaceuticals in the US just before or after they expired for cheap. As the Hospitals in Iraqi had nothing on their shelves so these western pharmaceuticals would be used before they actually spoiled... He told me about the children's hospital Saddam named after himself, but that had an empty pharmacy, dirty sheets, etc. He also told me about the people who disappeared thanks to Saddam the Goat Farmer...
@antshaq13 ай бұрын
If he said there was no WMDs they would call him a liar
@davidhollenshead48923 ай бұрын
Saddam had WMD's left over from using them on the Iranians & certain ethic groups in Iraq: The VA Hospital is treating US personnel who had the task of destroying the Iraqi weapon dumps. And yes, they have exposure to the Chemical Agents of Saddam's Chemical Weapons left over from the Iran Iraq war. Unfortunately they were labeled as conventional artillery shells & rockets. American Veterans of the Iraq war wouldn't be dying from exposure to said Chemical Agents if there were only Conventional Munitions in these dumps. Of course if said Chemical Weapons had been deployed as designed and properly maintained these Veterans would have died in Iraq as well as many Iraqi Civilians. The only question is how many of these Chemical Weapons were transferred to Assad in Syria and if any are still buried in the Iraqi desert...
@user-xx3ov1vg5p3 ай бұрын
Bush and Dick Chaney should be in prison for WAR crimes and all the money they made during the war should be given to the fallen and injured soldiers families
@butdoyou19703 ай бұрын
Absolutely...
@zahrafahad43803 ай бұрын
What about millions iraqi killed in that war who destroyed Iraqis dams their infrastructure other are animals
@lucschoesetters43073 ай бұрын
Excuse me. You voted these two lying criminals into office, no indemnities to US citizens, but huge indemnities to their victims, the Iraqi
@user-qh7rj9wj4p3 ай бұрын
Scott ritter did the testing and said NO WMDs . Forget about what saddam said to his generals .
@SeriousPOV3 ай бұрын
Why does the Pentagon hold Iraq's historical documents???
@_DREBBEL_3 ай бұрын
I want to hear every second of these tapes.
@shahramaziz65753 ай бұрын
trust me not worth wasting ur time. it is like listening to a bunch of old washed-up dudes talking in a coffeeshop
@fahid33423 ай бұрын
@@shahramaziz6575okay Iranian
@MrBrock3143 ай бұрын
@@shahramaziz6575 Except about things that are actually important instead of what they'd talk about in a coffee shop generally. :)
@cgall44443 ай бұрын
No One TRUSTScnnCommirs.
@shahramaziz65753 ай бұрын
@@MrBrock31499% of it is just conspiracy theories/Zionists, talking about his people/country like he is in an alternative reality, talking about how they should support Palestine + his henchmen sucking up to him etc. it get really cringe. I will give you an example, during the 1991 war (when everybody begged him don't Effing do it and retreat but he refused), they are talking about how nobody is helping them (after being hostile to almost all of his neighbors), then they discuss stupid ideas like "we should embarrass Soviets and Algerian so that they would be forced to send some weapons" hahaha If you can stand having grown ass men sucking up to a delusional man living in an alternative reality, it is not that bad :)
@DydellRay3 ай бұрын
Definitely a war we should have never been in. Imo
@lymitutit30463 ай бұрын
You were dragged into this war. One of the main sources of information for CIA on that time was MOSAD. Look at the video when Netanyahu in his speech, on the US congress , advocated for the necessity of destroying Iraq. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, backed up by the military industry lobby and AIPAC, were the most fervent outspoken persons over the 'wright doing ' of attacking Iraq. They even mislead J.W Bush in his decision making process over this very sensitive subject.
@RedorblueDontcareaboutyou3 ай бұрын
We found the tapes but couldn’t find the WMD
@user-eu5ji8og6b3 ай бұрын
everyone knows the WMD plot was just a hoax to get Saddam out of power after he invaded Kuwait Kuwait also kicked out their Palestinians because they helped Saddam
@davidhollenshead48923 ай бұрын
Saddam had WMD's: The VA Hospital is treating US personnel who had the task of destroying the Iraqi weapon dumps. And yes, they have exposure to the Chemical Agents of Saddam's Chemical Weapons left over from the Iran Iraq war. Unfortunately they were labeled as conventional artillery shells & rockets. American Veterans of the Iraq war wouldn't be dying from exposure to said Chemical Agents if there were only Conventional Munitions in these dumps. Of course if said Chemical Weapons had been deployed as designed and properly maintained these Veterans would have died in Iraq as well as many Iraqi Civilians. The only question is how many of these Chemical Weapons were transferred to Assad in Syria and if any are still buried in the Iraqi desert...
@RoyalBlue2923 ай бұрын
George Galloway win again 20yrs later!
@kevinjenner95023 ай бұрын
International Commission of Jurists in Geneva. “The invasion of Iraq was neither in self defense against armed attack, nor sanctioned by the UN Security Council authorizing the use of force by member states and thus constituted the Crime of War of Aggression”
@ecurewitz3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Captain Obvious
@Vbluevital3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! An illegal US invasion.
@SalSanchez-dy6cn3 ай бұрын
Hmm it's like the gov wants you to take their side
@evanb41893 ай бұрын
Saddam Hussein was 100x the war criminal compared tl Bush or Cheney. By this standard, you'd support the Iraq War.
@lecorbusier67913 ай бұрын
Russia making the same mistake with Ukraine. It'll cost them dearly for decades to come
@VPrivateVpersonal3 ай бұрын
Remember when Nethanyu went on public television and hold up maps showing where Saddam wmd located.
@robertmarley88523 ай бұрын
Oh yeah he was foaming at the mouth
@federalreservebrown25073 ай бұрын
I remember 5 dancers getting arrested
@cazza69443 ай бұрын
Yes and we know he knew full well there were no WMDs
@VPrivateVpersonal3 ай бұрын
@@cazza6944 and yet we are rally behind Israel Netanyahu today. How can we instate Netanyahu as a lead after such lies? Just imagine if we still had T.Blair and G.Bush still running office.
@dariusburkeofficial3 ай бұрын
It was a war crime not a blunder
@Nanaoui3 ай бұрын
Don’t worry , hellfire exists for a reason
@stavorulaalexandridis33513 ай бұрын
Truth teller 👏 👏
@o2kala6493 ай бұрын
And who got punished for lying to the world and the destruction that continues to fold? Nobody!!!
@castanza1283 ай бұрын
Israel. Eventually... Just takes a few more people finding out the truth.
@mnsawmill29043 ай бұрын
The USA is still struggling with credibly both home and abroad from this huge blunder.
@MrBrock3143 ай бұрын
Whatever was left, the US lost during the current Israel-Palestine genocide.
@mnsawmill29043 ай бұрын
@@MrBrock314 Certainly doesn't help
@ValeriaMessalina13 ай бұрын
Steve Coll is a revisionist manipulator. Because there was no MISCOMMUNICATION between Nations. Hussein's private diaries are Irrelevant. At the Time Iraq did Gas the Kurds, and Saddam did Float Balloons, and say publicly, to deter U.S.A. that he indeed have WMD's. Today, we see this with Iran announcing they have Houthis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. In Iran's misdirection. Russia reports their Economy & War products under sanctions are at their best! It is propaganda. This Author falsly reports that Saddam could not call White House & it was all "Miscommunication." Kuwait attack, nor Ukraine attack are matters of Miscommunication! In years, we'll have another Steve Coll, citing tapes of what? Putin lamenting having to invade Georgia, Crimea? What a poor twist from a sham author. A revisionist whou ought never teach History. This is B.S. !
@federalreservebrown25073 ай бұрын
the blunder being septoneone
@rumee4u3 ай бұрын
"...this huge blunder." - Only one?
@iconoclast26793 ай бұрын
You understood well before you invaded that there were no WMDs, the invasion was and is a crime of waging aggressive war and war crimes.
@lehmejoun3 ай бұрын
Wait, if there's thousands of hours of records, why were these not presented in court before he got the death sentence?
@castanza1283 ай бұрын
Because it takes a long time to edit out all of the stuff he said about Israel. That's my guess.
@iainwade3 ай бұрын
Because he was charged and convicted for a massacre inside Iraq following an assassination attempt. Nothing to do with wmd or American shenanigans.
@Superratis3 ай бұрын
Because they wanted him gone.
@Tanzbd1233 ай бұрын
@@Superratis Exactly.
@Hereford16423 ай бұрын
@@iainwade Well, one can only presume that if Saddam was meticulous in keeping such recordings and records then there would be some information relevant to his trial? I agree with another poster. They simply wanted him dead and gone and that was going to happen no matter what.
@melissaabbott68293 ай бұрын
So interesting. What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to decieve.
@mandarinandthetenrings22013 ай бұрын
This Bullshit. The CIA released a "white paper" in 1960's that the threat in the Middle East was the "Ba'ath's party" because their non-secular and engineering educational system. This allowed manufacturing within Middle East and poised a threat to the West.
@mandarinandthetenrings22013 ай бұрын
If you look what has happen since "Nassar" of Egypt was assassinated. Syria Civil War was backed west and destroyed. President George W. Bush went and destroyed Saddam Hussain and made sure the "Ba'ath Party" was destroyed in Iraq. Now Middle East is hopelessly dependent on West for technology even Iran.
@robertmarley88523 ай бұрын
Welcome to my web said the spider to the fly 👀
@AbeTheFakeSage3 ай бұрын
@@bradh1810that’s the Talmud
@Godliftsthelow3 ай бұрын
interesting but not Interesting at thsame time
@BSelf1derTrip3 ай бұрын
I'm not a Sadam apologist by any means but it sounds like the abuser is blaming the abused for their own violation.😮
@farahabdulahi4743 ай бұрын
It's also a straight-up lie. Revisionism of what happened and blaming it on miscommunication
@seanrowshandel16803 ай бұрын
Nobody "saves" w3apons "for later". So it's clear what was going on, but I just don't understand why anyone cared. It seems like The Bad Kids got paranoid and incited the anger of foreigners and even Iranians. It's all a bunch of nonsense that stemmed from bad education. Naturally it led to war. Teachers define "neutrality [itself]". People listen to wives' tales too much (because their unmarried mom won't stop repeating them), and THAT'S why the war took so long: if it's hard to tell when you're being rebellious and when you're not, you better go off to war and never be seen again (just kidding, I'm a teacher after all, aren't I? I couldn't say such a thing.). Anyone who willfully decides to use any w3apon IS IN A SORT OF CONTRACT WITH HIMSELF in which it is implied that HE HIMSELF MAY "UN-DECIDE" to use a w3apon... That's the "definition" of a "w3apon". I think there's another word for what dictators force everyone to use (without free will). So weapons don't really GET "saved for later" because "free will" exists, but not everyone understands it because they are uneducated.
@fan2hd2773 ай бұрын
sounds famliliar with Israel...
@TonyMontana-ks3qh3 ай бұрын
It’s truly frightening to know how a combination of appalling assertions/ judgments from political leaders/ governments can fragment the direction of the world’s landscape and its people. So many lives lost from all sides..it’s just tragic…..
@DominiAeternum3 ай бұрын
This wasn't any accident at all. Wake up. It was all intentional.
@adam1st19843 ай бұрын
He didn't want to look weak in front of Iran. France knew he didn't have them. Shame on saudi for letting that go down
@cazza69443 ай бұрын
Israel knew he did not have them too
@adam1st19843 ай бұрын
@@cazza6944 taking saddam out benifited them the most...who do you think gave the us the" intel"
@elizabethflynr75613 ай бұрын
Let’s not for a moment leave Israel out of this horribleness.
@jon96253 ай бұрын
Oh the puppet trope
@GiftJerome3 ай бұрын
Saddan was evil same as hamas
@Richard012343 ай бұрын
Is there a area where you me and other nazis can hang out?
@nerome6193 ай бұрын
How could you given your focus?
@Mr.Monta773 ай бұрын
How about the evil Hamas release the hostages?
@dzobie3 ай бұрын
Who believed this was a blunder? I'm pretty sure it was a calculated plan to acquire oil....
@gavinmc52853 ай бұрын
i don't think they knew what they were doing. you can see that they were stumbling around and fumbling and desperately groping for a light switch. if they had actually got their act together they would have secured what they were looking for and we would all be up to date with the latest developments on everything we need to know. as it is we have too many unanswered questions and they keep trying to evade the level of proportionate scrutiny that their adventurism has promoted.
@dzobie3 ай бұрын
@@gavinmc5285 they knew good and well what they were doing. I watched the oil being pumped.
@castanza1283 ай бұрын
Where's the oil, then? No... this was a war for Israel. That's why Saddam launched his scuds at them. Remember?
@dzobie3 ай бұрын
@@castanza128 it obviously didnt go to the US.
@somedude46523 ай бұрын
Fascinating!! to have lived through these world events and then for the back story to surface
@markokrompic3 ай бұрын
And he was right that it was not about weapons of mass destruction.
@Blackbriar7473 ай бұрын
So long as Dick Cheney wanted this war, there is no amount of misunderstanding to prevent it.
@Lmeza-21213 ай бұрын
Dick Cheney was a liar, Saddam Huessein was an idiot…
@user-dh6bj2me5p3 ай бұрын
See "PNAC."
@rasul4073 ай бұрын
That’s why Liz Cheney should never be allowed in office
@Lmeza-21213 ай бұрын
@@rasul407 what does Liz have to do with her dad? Just say you love daddy Trump and go 😭😭😭🤣🤣
@rasul4073 ай бұрын
@@Lmeza-2121 idiot! Hating on Liz doesn’t mean I support Trump 🤦♂️ Liz will start a war with Iran or Venezuela wherever the oil is-as long as shes in power
@sclogse13 ай бұрын
Either it was Newsweek or Time, but when the U.S. moved on Irag, they had a two page spread showing above and below ground in Baghdad by use of an illustration showing what the nuclear weapons storage looked like. (According to someones imagination) If that wasn't advertising, I don't know what is.
@chozusmakavelli3 ай бұрын
who are the people who fabricated the evidence, and why are they not held accountable??
@rashmigupta93 ай бұрын
Just like Israel presents "evidence" in Gaza.
@jamiearan3 ай бұрын
I think it was the Afghanistan war when they showed an al-Qaeda multilevel bunker complex in the Tora Bora mountains, and it looked like a James Bond villain lair. It was all fake, but I think it reflects the time when people couldn't really fathom that a non-state entity like Al-Qaeda could attack the US. It just to be some well-organised advanced army.
@jenskarlsson47443 ай бұрын
CNN loved the war in Iraq !!
@alejandronopasanada53023 ай бұрын
I remember that. I saw it as an idiot and kept going. Then years later I saw it again in a documentary and just couldn’t believe that a serious news outlet was publishing imaginary pictures.
@FrequencyHorizon3 ай бұрын
For some reason, I thought this said "Saddam Hussein's secret recipes" and now I'm crestfallen :(
@user-kd1gj4dm9l3 ай бұрын
Being a leader means being responsible for others.
@MA-do9vr3 ай бұрын
Thank you Steve Coll for exposing the truth to the world. We need to know the truth so that those we elect to lead are held accountable.
@jakobthelibrarycard62613 ай бұрын
Fear not. Bush, Blair and all their cronies will never be held to account.
@davidhollenshead48923 ай бұрын
Saddam had WMD's: The VA Hospital is treating US personnel who had the task of destroying the Iraqi weapon dumps. And yes, they have exposure to the Chemical Agents of Saddam's Chemical Weapons left over from the Iran Iraq war. Unfortunately they were labeled as conventional artillery shells & rockets. American Veterans of the Iraq war wouldn't be dying from exposure to said Chemical Agents if there were only Conventional Munitions in these dumps. Of course if said Chemical Weapons had been deployed as designed and properly maintained these Veterans would have died in Iraq as well as many Iraqi Civilians. The only question is how many of these Chemical Weapons were transferred to Assad in Syria and if any are still buried in the Iraqi desert...
@andyroo93813 ай бұрын
I wish this interview could go on for more time.
@adandylife3293 ай бұрын
I'm ordering the book!
@bankergeorge3 ай бұрын
They basically gave him the tapes they wanted him hear.
@Rubango3 ай бұрын
I need to read this
@kuchojoe5003 ай бұрын
They killed Saddam and Libya's Gaddafi just for the safety and Israel but today middle eastern group fighting Israel
@Dan-nx9zn3 ай бұрын
You clearly do not know history
@asharahmad10683 ай бұрын
@@Dan-nx9znwell if you know about aipac the more you will know us policies. Saddam Gaddafi and king Faisal they all had one thing in common. All of them were nightmare of Israel
@Dan-nx9zn3 ай бұрын
@asharahmad1068 israel has always been a close ally of the US they are our one ally in a region that hates us. It makes sense strategically to keep at least one ally in region
@Dan-nx9zn3 ай бұрын
@asharahmad1068 the thing they had in common is they are muslim and Muslims hate jews so it makes sense they had that in common
@toms.79133 ай бұрын
Very interesting discussion.
@tyhughs96193 ай бұрын
I saw a top secret report that said he always had diarrhea
@MidwestCoupe3 ай бұрын
And yet here we are doing the same thing today , as back then.
@seidahmed-kd5er3 ай бұрын
You have any tapes of Bush and tony blaires conversation
@user-op2tx9rk7n3 ай бұрын
Bush should be made accountable for his killing!
@jakeroper10963 ай бұрын
How do you know Saddam wasn’t going to get WMDs and use them eventually? (Like he constantly repeated he was doing)
@toddlawrence68723 ай бұрын
Saddam was tried and convicted by Iraq not the US. He was a pretty evil guy.
@kevinjenner95023 ай бұрын
War Criminals Bush and Cheney “Thank god we’re not a signatory to the ICC”. Hague invasion clause
@kevinjenner95023 ай бұрын
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan declared the US invasion of Iraq illegal on Sept 15, 2004.
@nobs9973 ай бұрын
By who? Social media court of public opinion?
@sajjshahrabi3 ай бұрын
"miscommunication" & "misunderstanding" hahahah CNN with a masterful spin!! 😂😂
@backommd3 ай бұрын
Complicated, mental health, ... get away words
@samfisher79533 ай бұрын
Iraqis hung him to please Washington DC, and embraced our democracy. Now look at Iraq. Is it a prosperous nation? The same with Libya and other countries.
@user-dh6bj2me5p3 ай бұрын
Iraq is a puppet state of Iran.
@puraLusa3 ай бұрын
Same with lybia?!?! The lybian generals who killed ghadafi did for themselves, they couldn't care less about usa. Iraqis hanged sadam cause sadam did purges, aka, killed political personalities, making of their familly members enemies, not to please usa. No one around the world save few exceptions does things to please usa, they do it out of their interests.
@kevinjenner95023 ай бұрын
Vietnam is a successful communist country with a promising future.
@nicholasmarnitz3 ай бұрын
Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq was a concerntration camp above ground and a mass grave underneath it. Hussein's Iraq was marked by numerous human rights abuses, including an estimated 250,000 arbitrary deaths and disappearances. It was a death sentence to own a cell phone or a salletite dish. Today Iraq has elections, a free press, and is at relative peace. There were terrible blunders during the Iraq War, and it went on far too long. But saying "Now look at Iraq" as if it's worse off today, is either not knowing or not caring about facts. Get real.
@abderahmanrejeb44233 ай бұрын
@@nicholasmarnitz iraq now is a very poor nation, and people are struggling even to get electricity.
@jamesswanson43913 ай бұрын
He was right tho, the U.S. knew he didn't have WMDs - hence the Colin Powell magic vial of mystery
@rogerthat45453 ай бұрын
What about the ones he used on Iran and the Kurds?
@ecurewitz3 ай бұрын
@@rogerthat4545they were destroyed shortly after W stole the election
@coshyno3 ай бұрын
How do you think Iraq built those gas bombs he threw at Iranian civilians ? US gave Iraq the plans to build them. @@rogerthat4545
@jesan7333 ай бұрын
No, the US didn't know. It fooled itself, much like Russia has e.g. fooled itself Ukraine consists of nazis. The top kindof orders its apparatus to find more evidence of a loose idea, and the apparatus proceeds to filter info in such a way that it looks like evidence, and then the top believes it.
@MrBrock3143 ай бұрын
@@rogerthat4545 You mean the gas given to him by the US and the UK to use on Iran? Yes, he used it on the Kurds instead. But let's not pretend he had that gas for good reason and that the UK and US weren't backing war crimes. As specified in this interview, he destroyed all of it in 1991.
@Kiwiadventurerandoverlander3 ай бұрын
US needs to focus on its domestic policy rather than worry about or focus on foreign policy
@am_ma3 ай бұрын
That was not what is it about for the second Gulf war . Read a book called I think " Memoir of Economical Assassin".
@k-unitylo58973 ай бұрын
Our Government knew. Hold Bush and his committee accountable, don't let old age take him like it did for Kissinger.
@elizabethflynr75613 ай бұрын
When you have one egotistical sociopath going against another, you have only tragedy. U.S. please come to your senses before it’s too late!
@ghostirq3 ай бұрын
Who is the egotistical sociopath?
@ahmedrasoul66743 ай бұрын
How can we see the full interview?
@johnmorganjr7693 ай бұрын
He had detailed overviews of every mine they ever laid.👍
@samanthaw49553 ай бұрын
Say no to war. Stop the normalcy of endless wars. Walking from one to another helps who exactly?🤔✌️
@adrianacanavati82123 ай бұрын
Ask Collin Powell
@kevinjenner95023 ай бұрын
Powell was provided with CIA lies and fabrications prior to his UN presentation.
@meenakshighosh85843 ай бұрын
Dead is he
@YanPutrisuryo3 ай бұрын
In his grave???
@ThanatosSK3 ай бұрын
You're gonna need a Ouija board connection to hell for that.
@salman4063 ай бұрын
He might still has the MDW samples! Could ran another forensic test perhaps might work this time considering using an AI. pfffft USA is just full of shit
@ghostirq3 ай бұрын
This dude really said he started a war with Iran unprovoked when Khomeini started that war and dragged it for 8 years
@grantbattison79483 ай бұрын
Fascinating!
@bucktis93 ай бұрын
They used to say Palestinians fight like heroes, now they say heroes fight like Palestinians.”
@anandsharma74303 ай бұрын
Saddam dared challenge the petrodollar. Gaddafi too. Whatever you do, don't challenge the petrodollar if you don't have nukes.
@JoseSanchez07953 ай бұрын
That's why they are so afraid of China.
@ChinkataVictoriaOkwudiri3 ай бұрын
But then, there was Russia🇷🇺
@nobs9973 ай бұрын
I would keep my regular job and leave conspiracy theories to people who can cook up stories
@rogerthat45453 ай бұрын
😆 "petro dollar"! Oil price goes down, the dollar remains strong. While the ruble gets flushed down the toilet
@jesan7333 ай бұрын
Sorry, conspiracy theory. No conflict has been about the petrodollar.
@SpazzyMcGee13373 ай бұрын
Very interesting. This makes more sense than any of the other their out there
@elpablitorodriguezharrera3 ай бұрын
I think the world has already know all of that, the problem is that nobody can change that
@theantagonizer9583 ай бұрын
The US had no reason to go into Libya, Iraq and maybe Afghanistan.
@ChronicExcessiveManliness3 ай бұрын
Or Vietnam or Korea. The USA has not won a war since...1945. Ironically, the last time we were attacked by a sovereign nation was Pearl Harbor. #Karma?
@larsrons79373 ай бұрын
Without any weapons of M.D. found and no United Nations resolution the invasion of Iraq can't be justified. Afghanistan on the other hand was a response to Al Qaeda directly attacking the US, and Afghanistan's Taliban regime not working against Al Qaeda but on the contary hosting and to some extent helping them. That should give justification. But certainly not the Iraq invasion.
@@larsrons7937nope Afghanistan invasion was also not justified. In Afghanistan usa only killed civilians and made them poor drug addicts. Now look at Afghanistan no mass shootings even though everyone has guns, sharp decline in drug addictions and corruption, increase value of their currency etc etc
@egarza92413 ай бұрын
“He[Trump] said, Hitler did some good things”: Ex-chief John Kelly says Trump praised Hitler
@QuantumOfSolace13 ай бұрын
Ridiculous and dumb
@puraLusa3 ай бұрын
The topic is the 2 george's and sadam U: need to coment on trump Me: dude, usa has nasa cause hitler had a science program which developed the basis for the invention of rockets. Yup, the same crazy ass racist scum. Same with stalin and it's space program, it gave knowlege of space to the world meanwhile causing the havok we know still persists in central asia and east europe. Conclusion: even the worst dictators can achieve 1 good thing and 1000 bad stuff.
@sclogse13 ай бұрын
” Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, said, "President Trump is the most flawed person I've ever known. The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," Gary Cohn, Trump's chief economic advisor, said, "It's worse than you can imagine. An idiot surrounded by clowns. Trump won't read anything--not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers; nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored. And his staff is no better. Kushner is an entitled baby who knows nothing. Bannon is an arrogant prick who thinks he's smarter than he is. Trump is less a person than a collection of terrible traits. No one will survive the first year but his family. I hate the work, but feel I need to stay because I'm the only person there with a clue what he's doing. The reason so few jobs have been filled is that they only accept people who pass ridiculous purity tests, even for midlevel policy-making jobs where the people will never see the light of day. I am in a constant state of shock and horror."
@halfmoon53 ай бұрын
Very excited to read the book
@radhawe3 ай бұрын
And how could you understand these records?
@hollylynn86193 ай бұрын
We went to war over control of his oil.
@gavinmc52853 ай бұрын
wmd - get with the program
@cazza69443 ай бұрын
Still controlling and stealing Syrian oil
@jm93713 ай бұрын
Fantastic insight.
@asadnama3 ай бұрын
6:00 what do you mean by 'khomeni is an American project"?
@cmlibin3 ай бұрын
Remember an edition of Time magazine from that time in which they pictured vehicles carrying WMD and driving nonstop to avoid international monitors
@AlejandroMadrid-tn1gp3 ай бұрын
The thing is that our security apparatus assured the President that he did not have the weapons of mass destruction.
@BillyColeII-dr6dk3 ай бұрын
Sadam gassed Iran during their war and he gassed the Kurds...
@AlejandroMadrid-tn1gp3 ай бұрын
@@BillyColeII-dr6dk I didn't say those things did not occur. Look now we have no one to check Iran.
@ThanatosSK3 ай бұрын
@@BillyColeII-dr6dk That's true, but the West gave the Saddam Regime those weapons to use against the Iranians during the Iran-Iraq war. **en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_attacks_against_Iran
@castanza1283 ай бұрын
But Israel said he did, so..... war.
@burntorangehorn3 ай бұрын
Most of it did. A few elements, particularly a few DIA and CIA shops, sent the White House the analysis they knew the administration wanted.
@fahid33423 ай бұрын
This was a really interesting interview. It looks like communication was a big reason why the war was such a blunder and it could’ve been avoided entirely.
@kgosisimanyana3 ай бұрын
Are you serious🤣🤣🤣America even edited pictures saying that's were weapons are😂😂trying to re write history🤣🤣
@reivell36993 ай бұрын
@@kgosisimanyana Its not America, its USA, America has been colonized by Europe by the establishment of USA. There are very few American left in America, majority of them were killed by the European illegals.
@fahid33423 ай бұрын
@@kgosisimanyana nope
@yasfaaslam13193 ай бұрын
There was no miscommunication just 1 agenda to destabilise iraq
@Hereford16423 ай бұрын
I asked a friend who had been working as a teacher in the middle East why he thought Saddam refused the weapon inspectors access to search his palace when that might have avoided war. His answer was 'Stupid Arab pride'. Interesting that part of Saddam's reason for not admitting to destroying weapons was partly stupid pride.
@uncletrashero3 ай бұрын
The biggest question is, can this help in any way with current Iran ?
@castanza1283 ай бұрын
Some people might learn that Israel is the threat to world peace, and not Iran. depends on whats in the tapes after editing, I guess.
@Survival.Institute3 ай бұрын
That wasn't just blunder, rather perpetual Crimes Against Humanity. And those crimes along with their blunders are continued till today.
@jeremyblank85903 ай бұрын
The takeaway.....Washington is duplicitous
@gavinmc52853 ай бұрын
at least D.C doesn't stand for double-count
@ValeriaMessalina13 ай бұрын
But Steve Coll is a revisionist manipulator. Because there was no MISCOMMUNICATION between Nations. Hussein's private diaries are Irrelevant. At the Time Iraq did Gas the Kurds, and Saddam did Float Balloons, and say publicly, to deter U.S.A. that he indeed have WMD's. Today, we see this with Iran announcing they have Houthis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. In Iran's misdirection. Russia reports their Economy & War products under sanctions are at their best! It is propaganda. This Author falsly reports that Saddam could not call White House & it was all "Miscommunication." Kuwait attack, nor Ukraine attack are matters of Miscommunication! In years, we'll have another Steve Coll, citing tapes of what? Putin lamenting having to invade Georgia, Crimea? What a poor twist from a sham author. A revisionist whou ought never teach History. This is B.S. !
@worldwatcher57873 ай бұрын
Amanpour is finally hitting the nail.
@hlasel79353 ай бұрын
After many many years even before I was born..... She ATLEAST will retire as a good reporter. CNN is owned by American government.
@DynaCatlovesme3 ай бұрын
Saddam DID admit, in fact, insisted that he had no WMDs! We just called him a liar!
@ValeriaMessalina13 ай бұрын
B.S.! Steve Coll is a revisionist manipulator. Because there was no MISCOMMUNICATION between Nations. Hussein's private diaries are Irrelevant. At the Time Iraq did Gas the Kurds, and Saddam did Float Balloons, and say publicly, to deter U.S.A. that he indeed have WMD's. Today, we see this with Iran announcing they have Houthis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. In Iran's misdirection. Russia reports their Economy & War products under sanctions are at their best! It is propaganda. This Author falsly reports that Saddam could not call White House & it was all "Miscommunication." Kuwait attack, nor Ukraine attack are matters of Miscommunication! In years, we'll have another Steve Coll, citing tapes of what? Putin lamenting having to invade Georgia, Crimea? What a poor twist from a sham author. A revisionist whou ought never teach History. This is B.S. !
@natbirchall15803 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised that the memo said Iran but Bush read Iraq
@luisafrance16353 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@nobs9973 ай бұрын
He serves as a reminder that cowboy mentality is still alive and well despite 'civilization'
@shigshug85813 ай бұрын
Trump likes dictators....Trump is the American version of Saddam Hussein.
@seanschisler42873 ай бұрын
Says the person who votes Democrat.
@rarirover443 ай бұрын
are you riturded😂😂 u just call anybody a dictator while she just said the war was american blunder and he ddnt have weapons! technically usa the world terrorist invading a country
@Vbluevital3 ай бұрын
Trump would be much worse for the US and worldwide.
@kgosisimanyana3 ай бұрын
@@VbluevitalObama killed more people than Trump though
@kgosisimanyana3 ай бұрын
Between Obama and Trump who killed millions of people😂😂
@sutats3 ай бұрын
Damned you don't and damned if you do when it comes to his disarmament conundrum.
@RamosCristobalChavez3 ай бұрын
Good Analyse
@mediawired3 ай бұрын
In a decade or so, the truth behind the war in Ukraine may be uncovered, but no politician will accept responsibility for their mistakes. Many people will pay the ultimate price, including their own lives, while politicians remain unaccountable.
@Uliengue3 ай бұрын
Analytical mystake? They lied.
@ecurewitz3 ай бұрын
It was w wanted that war, and was hell bent on getting it
@jesan7333 ай бұрын
No, it was mostly an analytical mistake. It was created by a form of bias and unsound incentives, but still.
@deanl03 ай бұрын
In 20 years they will say the same about the situation now in Palestine
@rosebudd293 ай бұрын
Bush as kind of an internationalist 😂😂😂😂
@MrBrock3143 ай бұрын
George H W Bush was more international. He built a pretty large coalition to repel Iraq from Kuwait. That was was far more internationally accepted than the 2nd Iraq war for that exact reason (also, it was to save Kuwaitis which it did mostly).
@rosebudd293 ай бұрын
@@MrBrock314 you forget that Iraq asked the NSA months before what is the US policy on Kuwait and GWB NSA replied we have no policy. So either short term international thinking or a bate box. But either way GWB put way to much stock in Rumsfeld and Halliburton/Cheney options
@aniruddhrajendran75702 ай бұрын
Do remember here the reference is to HW Bush. Senior Bush is a different personality to junior Bush.
@rosebudd292 ай бұрын
@@aniruddhrajendran7570 yes GW 01 thru 09. GHB understood where the world was. GWB listened to Card. Rumsfeld, Tenet and Cheney