Without evaluation..

And this exact statement is a judgement too

Exactly, that is the art of listening without having to choose or criticise, just listen and expand the knowledge , whoever is talking guru or not is saying something, either it touches your heart or it goes to empty space

A stone observes you without judgement. All inteligence has a purpose, that guru words are for pretencious pseudo thinkers.

What do you, guys think about the teachings of Eckhart Tolle ?

Compared to Falun Dafa he was an elementary school teacher.

​@@jeffforsythe9514You're here as well 😭

His teachings are a form of Zen which can bring a sense of peace but true enlightenment requires a great teacher. I know, I have one. Falun Gong.

But he got a lot of followers by saying that!If he really didn't want any followers why was he up on stage in the first place?....sure wasn't Xfactor

@@randybackgammon890 It appears that he was from the school of Zen which is quite a low school of enlightenment based on a misunderstanding of the Buddha's words. We all need a great master...........................falundafa

@@randybackgammon890 to impart wisdom and knowledge. That is not being "up on stage"

@@astroradha7124 ok.But as I say if he dosnt want any followers why does he put himself in a position to hold audience. 'If you follow someone you don't follow the truth'...his words. What's the point of everyone turning up if that's the central msg.

Was it Ranch? All kidding aside, Murti teaches at a very low level and if you want the highest level available..................Falun Gong.

@@jeffforsythe9514 It was mayonnaise.

​@@jeffforsythe9514wrong

Was it Ranch?

Wow, smiled and said thank you to a giving child.....obviously the mark of a great man

Yes sir 🎵

Absolute truth ❤️

True

agree

fani ragoussi, You are so correct! (Comment - No Sadhgura did not make a comment!). my dear fani, I share your views 100%. PS. together J.Krishnamurti. The truth will set you free! Very Few people see this truth! (But You and me See the truth in what Krishnamurti Say!). I send love to you.

Why would anybody want to escape his teachings?

What a striking comment

His was really an intellectual person. He sees everything without any judgement.

This guy gets it.

You might get Krishnamurthy ji's teachings because you might be intrested in it ,but for some one who is not intrested it's not gone work at all.

But he don't believe in soul.... 🙄

Thats why he never allow to follow any Guru.

@@hpraxo1596 because concept of soul and mysticism for kids

True bro.

@A Wanderer 😅sir .... Mei yhi keh rha Hu aaap ne mujhe kyu msg kiya

I agree. An intellectual satisfaction is only part of it. It’s like using one wheel to drive. Understanding it through experience adds more balance or an extra wheel to navigate.

@@ujjalboruah4545 what is the game?

@@ujjalboruah4545 is knowledge the perception of the mind… as heat is to the perception of fire? with this Knowledge, is one able to penetrate into is beyond known and unknown? Is this the Inquiry?

@@ujjalboruah4545 it took a very long time of inquiry for me to realize, it is the inattention that problems only seem to appear. This comes to mind when one says, “there are so many distractions” but the distractions exist because one is not really really paying attention to what’s really going on. I think this is why jk emphasis having complete attention giving all your energy to that - being aware of what’s going on. So In that ‘experience’ one become more alive. But that experience becomes an experience when the mind gets in the way (separation kicks in)

@@ujjalboruah4545 that’s where the inquiry continue… why does one keep saying they’re having an experience when there is no experiencer.

It seems to be more philosophical

@@amitbhatt876 ..... reading novel vs watching movie adaptations! same logic..... "to read is fun-to-mental... READ!!! its not illegal yet" - Eddie Griffin

Hey thanks

this is a single sentence out of book and can be misconstrued...JK said that he didn't bother with reading even...this quote should be presented with the rest of the paragraph it is apart of.

Enlightening requires a kind heart, much suffering and a great master..............falun dafa

that's common sense/basic psychology /observation . Bound to duty or karma or dharma (disciplined path 1 is following).

*What do you, guys think about the teachings of Eckhart Tolle ?*

He is great- he has learned the wisdom of dharmic traditions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism etc.), experienced great consciousness, practiced mysticism and made his learnings available in his language which is quite good especially for for people who are not from dharmic traditions.

This is beautiful

While this is true for "yogis" of a specific kind, this doesn't hold well for everyone. How about Karma Siddhanta? It is the foundation of almost all metaphysical concepts especially in the spiritual mahadhara of sanatana Dharma. In bhakti yoga Krishna himself says, for those who can understand "god" in a formless way it is good, but, since it is almost not possible for everyone, Karma is the way - to know "namaha" "that which is not" . So, this is good for JK and likewise for RamanaMaharshi, may be also for Srirama krishna paramhans, but we must not follow that path. It is like because Adishankara swalloed molten iron orated Nirvana shatkam, you can do it too . No. No way. While "following"is good, it is also important to follow that which you can. So it is imp to know who it applies and appeals to. If you tell the above to a common man, it is very likely you will send him down ironically. It might do so less good. That's why Karma Siddhanta is practiced widely. To repeat, and summarize, I am not saying jk is right or wrong, I'm saying we must choose to follow what he said carefully. Because he is a "dhara" and we? We are still the fishes trying find our way.

అన్న మీరు తెలుగు వారా ?

Wow, he said this?! I'm glad I learned this!

No. He didn't say this.

@@prabachann who said it

@@lydiamulfinger6781 official channel of JK mentioned it. They said, there is no where to be found of this saying.

Meaning?

so if doesn't seek anything, one gets nothing? 🤔

His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.

What i understood is; there is nothing for a soul to be sought. If we are seeking anything then we consciously or unconsciously indulging the sense of I(physical) which is a cycle of further questions and answers like..... No end at all. So be content with what you have and start travelling inward. I hope it will help the aspirant/seeker. Hare Krishna.

@@sarmakameshwar9085We all have a huge amount of black karma which would take many lifetimes of devotion and clean living to remove before we could return to heaven. A great master, Master Li Hongzhi, can remove a huge amount of that karma for you allowing enlightenment in this lifetime. That is all.

Kamlesh Reesaul 《Lives in the shadow with Krishnamurti》is not a fair book , besides , he never denied the relationship . There’s explications from the other side !

In fact , I was referring to his honest observations of human nature&the way of the world !

Compared to the teachings of Falun Dafa, JK's are at a very elementary school level

Absolute honesty is spirituality - Sri Sivan SAR

As if you know all teachers, try being truthful...........falundafa

That´s why I never followed JK !

@@DihelsonMendonca that's what his first teaching. Not to follow even himself. In a way he made you follow him. Think about it my friend

@@jiavudeenrathinamohamed844 That's how human brain works, You say them 'Dont' and they will do the exact same thing.

@ Kay Pandian... The Buddha said it this way "Make yourself the light, Make the Truth the Light and do not rely on persons... and do not rely on what I say or what someone else says". And this is why respect JK so much!

@@jiavudeenrathinamohamed844 :-D

Remember he really wasn't spiritual he was more of the mind and presence

Hello, do you know the name of this book?

Yes, good start, now, carry on.....................falundafa

And that is exactly why I am now directing you to look at Falun Dafa.

I love Sadhguru and Krishnamurti It's my life....thanks...

@@sylviavanrhijn4474 You are stuck in kindergarten using the word love, remember this, you Fall in love.

There are thousands of elightened beings living in the great mountains of China, some many hundreds of years old. ...............falun dafa.

He probably was from the Zen School which does not believe in having a master. We all need a great master to reach higher plateaus....................faalundafa

His teaching are along the same lines as Zen which is a very limited form of Buddhism. Falun Dafa is limitless.

@@jeffforsythe9514 disagree

@@MrRanvir69 Sorry, you are not allowed to disagree.

Commentaries on living?

Reading the notebook right now!

Hey, In which way, JK have changed you ? Please elaborate 🙏

Agreed!!! ANY GURU... If you understand!

Peter said the same about Paul, that what Paul wrote and spoke not everyone understood .. This is how Krishnamurti was .. Not everyone understood them, because his words were not for everyone.

I'm neither my body nor my mind , I'm my observation.💝

@@akhilvijayakumar5235 Perfect!!!

@@thalescarmona 😀😀😀😀

😑

Lol

His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.

@@jeffforsythe9514 nobody can take you

@@francescoli306 Because God holds me in His hands, good luck.

@Hari Thank you! This is the mark of someone who wants to set your free!!

Great jk😌🙏

Pehle istmal karo phir biswas karo ⌚

That's what said by siddhartha. The buddha...

Buddha is the one who said it some 2500 years ago! JK was just repeating what the great Buddha said!

His teaching was at elementary school level. For PHD level.................Falun Dafa.

Love is something that you Fall in. Compassion is Divine.............Falun Dafa.

Absolutely! He is truly one of a kind. He leads you into the truth...where there is no JK... there is just the truth. Because truth contains no self.

Absolutely true 👍

His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.

​@@jeffforsythe9514 why do you say that Falun Gong ❤ is the way? Can you kindly give me a link to any article or paper where I can understand the wisdom of Falungong

His level was quite low, Falun Dafa is the highest.

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Don't....he is inside of you...

Great to see an Assamese in the comment box.....

In which way, JK have changed you ? Please 🙏

The teachings of Falun Gong will bring you to an even higher state of enlightenment. Kindness and integrity are the only requirements.

Unnecessary exaggeration.

I have an enlightened teacher. Ther are 100 million Falun Gong practitioners worldwide.

He was not born he was made by theosophical society

@@Thephilosopher319 He shows us what a difference a good education can make.

His teachings appear to be very similar to the school of Zen which is quite limited but the wonderful practice of Falun Dafa is limitless.

Thank you for this comment!! Peace and Joy Always!!!

*LMAOROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

No that's just BO!😂

JK fragrance still above any other "fragrance" 4ever!!!

Fragrance ! I did't understand sir.

Agree 😭

Wipe your tears, forget both those guys and take a look at Falun Dafa.

Exatamente !

Yet, this guru judges

Neither of them were masters, just enlightened at a low level. The highest is falun dafa.

lol

His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.

You attended …in Australia. So how old are you faith .?

@@jeffforsythe9514 The leader has stated that he is a bodhisatva , ( self proclaimed) and So do you really believe that he places a falun in your stomach . . .? What a lot of horse hockey .It’s of real concern that people are so gullible and believe anything that is suggested to them

@@Spartan21blue First of all a bodhisatva is a female buddha. He has never claimed to be one. He is an enlightened being and removed more than half of the black karma that was covering my soul. I cried for a month. One hundred million practitioners follow his teachings. You believe what you want, good luck. You probably think that you live in a democracy while the rich have always made all the laws for the rich, so who's gullible?

Relating would have made them intelectual. They had their own meaning and he planted a seed inside of you.

No one wants to say anyone superior to himself. After all, sadhguru has too accomplished a lot.

When you say you appropriate? Where do you get this feeling? If you observe them both, they both have some degree of sameness or union. The thing is, Sadhguru tackles a broad aspect while JK is purely intellectual. Both teachings can be used by someone to improve their functionality in this world. When you go to the kitchen, you don't have a single absolute tool to use in every type of work. You use knife, chopping board, fork, spoon, plates etc. Everything is incremental for you to come at a stage where you have to eat and this becomes your body.

@shobhit thapliyal why do you guys get this feeling that Sadhguru is downplaying JK? I listen to them both. I use their both wisdom. Does JK need protection from you or even his followers? If you've read and listen to JK, why have this feeling that his principle is being trampled by Sadhguru?

Yes, that is the crux of the matter 🤣

@shobhit thapliyal true.

We are young as far and as long as we feel ourselves as beginners not as mature in something. So we can grasp knowledge not because of youth but because our inner feeling that can be verbalized as "someone may know it better than me" until it evolves and transform itself into "nobody can teach me on this". The beautiful part of this evolution is that it can be dismissed at any moment with no reward so you can learn something as a true beginner. But ability to dismiss own experience is not widely spread across people. So it came to us as one who can dismiss his own knowledge or memory in the meaning of being free in his choice independently from his memory and previous choices - as special being. Indeed it is special. But all of us had nothing special in making everyday choices with or without memory as far as we did that choices in unconscious way.

@sreeram goutham not 'couldnt reach' but he choose 'not to'.... i mean who turns down a million dollar career man! not many mystics do......

ankan sengupta Reaching as many people may not always be for popularity or to become rich . It may also be with compassion for all Beings that you want to reach them and take them along . Adi Shankaracharya simply walked from southern tip to the Himalayas , reaching as many people as he could , simply with just almost bare body he walked the toughest of terrain to meet people and enrich them . Well he didn’t gather a million dollar but ultimately took samadhi in the Himalayas. What else other than compassion that might have drove him to reach all those people .

true brother

Depends on what is inner experience according to one's mind!...

Not at all. Sadguru did never say that JK had no inner experience. Rather said that, very few razor sharp minds can understand his words. Very few, who want to explore on their own. While making words about any enlightened being, we should take our position very well of total alertness. I ve no relation with Isha foundation or Jk foundation, but I feel a relationship with both of the teachers.

You have the potential.. please read K’s commentaries on living.

Sadhguru didn't tell about jk inner experience. Revind the tape

Falun Dafa, The Great Way.

UG krishnamurti

I fact-checked this was never said.

How do you gain experience and knowledge then?

@@VSM101 not necessary he has to say, it's the bottom line of his philosophy.

Liberation from spirituality is greater, as the guru is just spiritual paraphernalia.

Yes its there when u are not thinking about it, its our natural state xx

This is not By JK ...

@@siddharthjoshi6811 then do you know who told that

@@user-dp4kf2tq3y did jk really said that? Proof

Spiritual enlightenment requires a kind heart, much suffering and a great master...........falun dafa

An even more advanced teaching is Falun Gong. Truthfulness-compassion-tolerance.

I think that's what Sahguru said, lol. Thus paradoxically, Sadhguru "got it".

Could you explain to me sir, which I would deeply appreciate, what made "JK" "out of reach" of anyone with the epithet of "guru", and I will add those with the epithet of "spiritual leaders? "and" political leaders." Is that quality only for certain individuals?

@@jmm8193 out of reach, in the sense probably that you won't really have the depth that he had, or understand the things he said at the same level, or at least In the same way, which may be partially true, but it's just another one of those cases where people deify someone whose knowledge or ability are far beyond their own. But he's specifically talk about gurus so he could mean something else I suppose.

@@NoUsernamae Another "smarty pants" Let me ask you my friend, who is that "he" you referring to? And what is it that, according to you, I am not able to understand? It seems that you are not "out of reach". If you understand PLEASE explain to me what it is that you "know" that you "understand", to write me to respond with those words. Truly I inform you that first of all, the understanding of what is TRUE, of WHAT IS THE ACTUAL THING has nothing to do with achieving anything, with a level of knowledge, with particular way of thinking of anybody. Because if that is the case, that individual is ost in his own jungle of illusions, which is actually the jungle of someone else accepted and copied as his own. And that JUNGLE OF ILLUSIONS is what confused people called "knowledge", "ability". And when you write, ... "what may be partially true", in reality what you are informing me is that you do not really know what you are dealing with, therefore you do not understand at all the core of the whole thing. And yet you dare to write to me being "out of reach". So, answer me, what is that "depth" you are referring to? What is that "knowledge", that "ability" that you are pointing out? Help me not to be "out of reach"! TRY ME! Your answer is nothing more than the response of an individual with a lack of humility, sincerity, honesty, full of pure pretense. If you were a "serious" person, you would have responded with other words with the intention of separating the TRUTH from the falsehood. And not pretending of being sure of what you are really not.

Ohh...sir...that is such a pity, from such a limited and..forgive me, childish and biased view, to make such a comment.🙏

Dear Zairong, they are very different. One cannot respect both. Please read or watch JK more...

@@bariscaglar9955 exactly Sadhguru is full of superstitions while J.Krishnamurti is like a mirror of absolute truth. If you read Krishnamurti you'll understand Sadhguru is nothing but a thug.

@@bariscaglar9955 stop reading/watching JK and DO IT, like he always requests us to do! Judgement is known...see them both as what they are, that is all

There are no comparisons between gurus or being,they have enlightened through different paths, they share their ways

So, you've basically just said Sadhguru is incapable of growth. What you're expressing is contempt. Seems rather odd for someone who purports to be familiar with the teachings of J Krishnamurti.

Indeed

You completely missed JK's point🤦🙊

Why we needs to say guru

I didn't even hear His name till 1985 . It doesn't matter . Whole universe knows His greatness now ! I take advantage of that PRIDE !

Pls don't make everything regional and close yourself by boundaries.

@@tanunm4966 exactly

Yes .... you’re absolutely right

The Telugus have reached a pitiful stage. They've split up their state, and now Andra may have three capital cities. What a joke of a people they have become. Speaking of JK how about this, If you ask them who Nagarjuna is, the first thing they will tell you is that he is an actor. SMH

True that 😂

Should you concentrate on the music or his speech?

@@GokuBlackEdits let’s understand this. See, let’s assume the background music is reasonably low so that the clarity of Sadhguru’s voice will politely come trough our ear. Isn’t way better? Halo?

@@rafatadmajayaid i see what you did there 😏😂

Don't know why they do this. They would put loud music behind the sermon on the mount.

Can you name some books I would like to read

@@sriramsrinivasan4564 sure .. "what are you doing with your life, Think on these things, The awakening of intelligence...these books has questions and answers between audiences and J.K

that statement exists within a certain context. Jiddu K. spoke plenty.

@foreignloveletter This statement comes from Upanishad.

This statement comes from Upanishad.

J. Krishnamurti didn't know. He was groping in the dark.

The statement itself is what matters nor the books or people that quoted it.

He most certainly was not that powerful, Falun Dafa is.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ JK shares the same soul as you and me

666 Subscribers Without Video Challenge one must discover it isn't it.

Exactly! thank you

Yes, please stop the background music, it's distracting and pointless, we want to hear Sadhguru clearly!!

Yes please

Or make two versions, 'cause YES it's distracting!

Please listen to vivek.

There are many higher levels, Falun Dafa

@periodic reset of civilizations every morning no sir, every second .

Yes. Exactly. 🙏 Namaste.

You are right sir

@@Cinnamongun1 thanks

@@lethikanaga1725 🕉️🙏

Sadhguru's foundation do volunteering.

Yesssss

Thats why sadhguru has a better reach

Well said

J K will have to work harder to reach Sadhgurus level.

There may not be returning then.

@@Teentaalstudio that's definitely true cause it's happening with me... He made me look inward rather than looking constantly outwards... Really people like jk are very rare and you must interact with that kind of a person as sooner as you can in your life🤎🤎

@Peter Peddinti i am lost? what does your reply has to do with the comment?

😆😅😆😅

He might spoke about K not once.

You got nothing from him if you say he was against

Guru-the guy who spread light in darkness-spiritual teacher. Saying all gurus are bad are like saying engineers are bad or all teachers are bad. It's just a word for spiritual teacher and jk was talking about guru in western context not about real meaning. I will say that jk himself was a guru.

@@abhisheksinghbhadoriya1926 Oh yes he did. He denied the impact of simply being could be teaching and preferred the impact of teaching a "method". My perspective, it is about the fact that the greatest master is not defined by the number of pupils but by the number of masters he is "producing". So it is a question of perspective and the saying of sadhguru "he was a flower and while alive you could smell his fragrance but it is gone now" is a judging. I don't see it that way and it is sad that he is in need of judging another teacher like that. Must be some kind of psychological need for. Maybe Sadhguru should listen carefully to Krishamurti.

@@swapnilchaudhari9545 Guru is not teacher, spiritual or otherwise. And spirituality is not anything to be taught which requires a teacher.

@@abhisheksinghbhadoriya1926 hahaha...you got the point...a whole lot of westerners got entangled in mental gymnastics and his anti Indian attitude was the main attraction. The moment he said no guru...the ones who accepted his claim actually made him their master 😃 The simple thing is if they believe what ever JK says must be true..then he is their prophet.

You could be one too.

@@miyamotomusashi3679 you too

That's true.❤

True

Yes

Sir it's not one day miracle that happened vary fast...to free me you have to awake every moment...and I am on that path...he teach me what to do ..and I am doing it.

I am able see everything clearly... the imotions memories that covers the mind every second which doesn't let us see what we are now I can know these Dirt's is not me.i can see them coming and go.

@@gaurav3290 both

भारत भूमि पुण्य भूमि

🙏

I don't know why you haven't mentioned Osho's name??

Lol, Sadhguru is a charlatan.

@@KamrulHasan-ro2lp perhaps the best

Beautifully Written. :)

I don't see you contradicting Sadguru.

agree

He taught a form of Zen which is a very very slow path. Take a look at Falun Gong, absolutely wonderful.

He means j Krishnamurthy

@Noob...Woow.. Good to meet a fellow Madanapalle ite virtually. Sadly we've moved out. But as they say we can take Indian out of India but not India out of Indian.. I would draw the analogy to and also fill it up with Madanapalle😊😊.. Im glad we lived in Court Ramachari Veedhi(street) for a little while parallel lane to Sri.Jiddu Krishnamurthy's lane. Sadly not great importance attributed to this place whereas a legend like Bruce Lee also followed him it seems. I'm glad Sri.Jiddu Krishnamurthy started the imminent Rishi Valley School close to his birth place, Madanapalle.

Time to move on to Falun Dafa and really advance.

@@jeffforsythe9514 - You are starting to sound very BORING, mate!

Whats your email

Beautifully put.

There are lot more people than I thought that understands JK's teaching. And you are right about JK's speechs not coming from intellect. Probably to self enquire, one does not require to be intellectual. I do not and and probably will never understand JK as a person since I never met him. But JK's teachings, did essentially set the sails for my journey and make me realize that only constant self enquiry can get you close to reality.

Marina Tonkonogy 🙏🌞

Soooo true!!!

Totally agree.

I agree with you Marina..he was never in favour of giving any kind of methods to attain enlightenment, only and only self inquiry..🙏🏼