Safety Solutions: Turns and Tail Swings

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9 жыл бұрын

Turns can be dangerous and costly if you don't take the necessary precautions before and during these maneuvers. They are among the most common type of accident in the school bus and motorcoach industry. In this edition of Safety Solutions, we review turning techniques and tips for avoiding these accidents. For more safety solutions and risk management resources, visit www.protectiveinsurance.com and click on Loss Prevention.
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@marxmann3564 7 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate every piece of this video,had to watch it for the 2nd time to get their techniques for turning my 22 passenger shuttle bus

@sam111880 6 жыл бұрын

nice to see in this video the length 40 to 45 ft and width 8.5 ft as well as other bus measurements to put it into perspective. Also another important thing is knowing how to uses your mirrors and the difference between the 3 major types on the vehicle. (i.e cross , concave and flat)

@claudees 7 жыл бұрын

Nice video on Turns and Tail Swings. Thanks for sharing on youtube.

@JonathanAllen0379 8 жыл бұрын

ALL buses and motorcoaches should be required by law to have power mirrors which can be adjusted while sitting in the driver's seat. You should not have to keep getting out of the bus to manually adjust your passenger-side mirrors, and you can't always count on someone else to help you either. It should also be mandatory for all diesel-powered school buses to have Jake brakes. There's no excuse. I see school buses all the time smoking their brakes while descending a steep hill. "Gearing down" in an automatic transmission can only do so much. All buses should have engine brakes, whether mechanical or electronic.

@someguy4817 7 жыл бұрын

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@DaytonaCoba 6 жыл бұрын

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@blackqueen6331 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this important information.

@darrylhofstra4342 Жыл бұрын

This is an EXCELLENT video!

@josmadeoliveira3980 4 жыл бұрын

Very, very good information, i need this. CONGRATULATION

@andybub45 7 жыл бұрын

They make it sound super complicated. Just be observant and take your time turning.

@Sekkzc 5 жыл бұрын

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@cececurtis6207 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for help

@simonchen6749 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve drive a party bus and a full size coach bus .the party bus I’ve drive is the size of the school bus.you always pass the rear alxle a little bit farther like 2-3 feet then you make the turn otherwise you could hit a vehicle next to you.

@sam111880 6 жыл бұрын

Also are you assigned a specific vehicle for the year or time period driving? Or do you get new ones everyday ? Are you usually driving out of one location? Do you get to park the bus at your place and just drive it the next day or do you always return it each night to company parking lot ? These are just some questions i am curious of it has nothing to do with how well you perform your driving or how well you know your information... but it does make a difference in familiarizing yourself with what you can expect with the vehicle outside of making the trips for people

@Jinisinsane 7 жыл бұрын

I want to learn how to drive long trucks because I want to live offgrid in an rv. I drove a flatbed once and reversing it was the worst.

@michaelhorton8873 7 жыл бұрын

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@zainsalie697 Ай бұрын

Good advice😊

@eightwheels Жыл бұрын

Most motorcoaches are 8.5' (102") wide, not 9' as said in the video (I've never seen one that was 9' wide and I've been driving them for over 20 years). And most school buses are 8' (96") wide, not 8.5'. Most motorcoaches are 45' long, and school buses are rarely if ever more than 40' long (most are 38' or less). (In the U.S.)

@Kaliburz 9 жыл бұрын

This is an interesting video. But I have to ask if someone got their terms mixed up.... In the video, they call the part of the bus BEHIND the rear axle to the bumper "tail swing". Now, last I knew, this was commonly refereed to as 'over hang'. The term 'tail swing' refers to how much of the 'over hang' crosses/off sets into the path/area of sidewalks and other vehicle lanes.

@sorcerykid 6 жыл бұрын

I agree, that is how I've always heard the two terms used as well.

@UahUahUah 4 жыл бұрын

It is known as the rear overhang, but it is also known for causing the "tail swing". I've heard both.

@sam111880 6 жыл бұрын

Ok so i am pretty sure with a little driving practice i can drive all road vehicles , i am sure i can pass pretty much any written test or endorsement , i know how to demonstrate pre-trip inspections for the different vehicles. But what i am wondering about is if anybody can do another video on what the non-driving part of a drivers day is like... like what type of paper work do they need to know how to fill out and what additional stuff do they have to do before/after driving the vehicle for the day before they go home for the night?

@romeoradam4318 4 жыл бұрын

My last job is School Bus Driver thank you for more impormations

@theotherwalt 3 жыл бұрын

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@hallucinatedovens8414 5 жыл бұрын

He steps on the clutch and the toilet goes flush, hail to the busdriver busdriver man

@louisreviews8820 5 жыл бұрын

Good

@adventureoflinkmk2 3 жыл бұрын

0:35 -- really.. I always thought the most common and dangerous places for coaches is in the intersection

@tomnovak7731 7 жыл бұрын

I like how he tells you to do something at 8:12 that is illegal in all 57 states. (JK on the # of states.) As far as I know, you are supposed to complete the left turn in the same lane you started in, unless you are going from a two lane onto a four or more lane roadway. In the latter case you are to ALWAYS complete your turn in the nearest lane NOT the far right lane as suggested in this video.

@cockandballtorture5167 7 жыл бұрын

This is Kentucky plus my bus driver alway does it

@tomnovak7731 7 жыл бұрын

+mooopaw_rblx that doesn't make it right!

@KatLeFevre 7 жыл бұрын

Yep, I got pulled over (in my personal vehicle) for doing it that way because that's what I'd learned when getting my CDL. The sheriff let me off with a warning, thankfully.

@ds-yu4dh 7 жыл бұрын

Completely false, you've never driven a long vehicle in your life. Something can't be illegal when there is no other possible way to make the turn without taking out poles fire hydrants etc...

@tomnovak7731 7 жыл бұрын

+d"trifecta5700"s it just so happens I am a class A CDL driver. So ya, I have driven vehicles a lot longer than a school bus! If you read what I wrote, I never said you don't swing wide, I said you COMPLETE YOUR TURN in the same lane you are in before the turn etc... But thanx for making a fool of yourself by assuming everyone drives like a SWIFT driver.

@kenhurley4441 3 жыл бұрын

@ 7:45,,,, That's an illegal placed stop sign. I know you're using it for an example, but it isn't properly installed location and height.

@myronbedner5163 3 жыл бұрын

Is turning a bus harder than a tractor trailer or what? I mean I drive tractor trailer there can't be that many turning accidents well maybe motor coach because some of them bus stops Greyhound or Jefferson Lines goes into are pretty tight. Just Asking.

@davidmartin7099 Жыл бұрын

Not harder, but different. Off-tracking is easier to manage, and mirrors - especially outside mirrors - remain useful throughout the turn, unlike an articulated vehicle where you lose sight of the outside of the trailer. Most trailers in North America have short overhangs so tail swing isn’t as big a concern, but some low bed trailers hang WAY out and can seing several feet during a tight turn.

@lisacugno4788 Жыл бұрын

Do you like watching a buses backed up

@nonokayakjack 7 жыл бұрын

If you turn into the far lane on a driver exam you'll be failed instantly.

@garymarch4711 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, when making a left from one lane into a 2 lane roadway, you have to turn (by law) into the left lane... although it makes more sense to turn into the right lane when safe. Not sure why they're instructing an improper turn in this video

@daddywalker6133 4 жыл бұрын

Idk what state y’all are in but in California it’s ok to land in the far right lane cuz if u aim for the left it’s not enough room to move up and get you’re rear cleared to do the left turn the off track will be a problem and it’s best to just go wide right I kno this cus I passed my driving test on the first try doing that so I guess it depends on the state

@merrittvillekid 3 жыл бұрын

in a motor coach you have to enter the far lane to complete your turn if you didnt you would wipe out all the cars waiting for the red light

@PaoXiong86 5 жыл бұрын

to be honest, people are not dumb like cones, they moves if they see it coming

@bradleyburros 3 жыл бұрын

My father was a cone 😩

@aaronporter8024 6 жыл бұрын

I hate getting out just to move my mirrors on my bus....

@fargeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Aaron Porter I accidentally hit a fire hydrant while trying to around a car that was parked in front of me at the regular student pick up zone

@Daniel-cp8kt 5 жыл бұрын

You gotta have that right of way to make a left turn lol

@adventureoflinkmk2 3 жыл бұрын

0:24 & 2:29 & 4:30 -- Ope

@leticiaswansbrough9123 6 жыл бұрын

What

@MathewCruz-jq8xj Жыл бұрын

Cleveland State University

@user-sj5gi4zm4i 6 ай бұрын

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@kellywaldron1252 7 жыл бұрын

@gravemind6536 2 жыл бұрын

Damn America sure knows how to make some crap, 2:21 front engine bus with no front overhang which is very useful to have and in an attempt to make up for it they decided to give the longest tail imaginable, the tailswing on this thing must be ridiculous. Also the front wheels can turn more if they are placed behind the driver without an engine and components getting in the way. Most stupid bus design in the world here.

@davidmartin7099 Жыл бұрын

I drive one. It’s a compromise. The bus is long to seats 72 kids. But at 45 feet, even with its 50° steering angle it wouldn’t turn tight enough if the axle were near the rear, so the shorter wheel base makes manoeuvres in residential areas possible. I can take my 45 foot school bus through tight neighbourhoods that a transit bus or coach can’t navigate. What I CAN’T do is pull nimbly past a parked car and enter a bus zone. The longer rear overhang means I need more approach distance to clear the rear overhang before I can swing parallel to the curb.