Sage (Breville) Barista Express Impress Vs Barista Pro

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Thanks to everyone who asked for this, and apologies for the delay, but here it is, the Barista Express Impress Vs Barista Pro.
Product links:
Barista Express Impress from Sage Appliances: breville.oie8.net/NKxb5N
Barista Express Impress from Breville AUS: breville.oie8.net/MXq7OP
Barista Express Impress from Sage Europe:breville.oie8.net/0JNPkM
Barista Express Impress from Breville NZ: breville.oie8.net/mgKYMD
Barista Express Impress from Breville USA: breville.oie8.net/n1Y6no
Barista Express Impress from John Lewis: john-lewis-and-partners.pxf.i...
Barista Pro from Amazon UK: amzn.to/3JSWfXO
Barista Pro from Sage UK: breville.oie8.net/BDr5W
Barista Pro from Amazon USA: amzn.to/3GpdMpX
Barista Pro from Breville USA: breville.oie8.net/4eBKj1
Barista Pro from Sage Europe: breville.oie8.net/Xx51yX
Barista Pro from John Lewis: john-lewis-and-partners.pxf.i...
Blog Reviews:
Best Sage Coffee Machines (UK) coffeeblog.co.uk/sage-coffee-...
Best Breville Espresso machines (USA) coffeekev.com/best-breville-e...
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Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
0:33 Who each machine is for
1:29 Technical differences
4:47 Putting the Express Impress to the test
8:38 Blind taste test
10:18 Outro
10:27 Amazingly pointless info + Oli & Wes prank Kev!
10:44 Tatty Bye
#baristaexpressimpress #baristapro #sageappliances #breville

Пікірлер: 110

@caelestis5 Жыл бұрын

This made me even more unsure of which one I should go with. I love them both! :D

@user-mc8xz6vk6h 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video and now I’m picking the express impress. Watched few videos but this one watching the guys try it out and still pull awesome shot sells me. My old express machine was to difficult the grind and tamper was horrible and I ended up selling g it a few months later. Now I’m getting the automatic one!! Love it. ❤ thank you for this video. Shows it’s now made the issues I had with the previous machine are now automatically done here. I’m sold. It’s Black Friday and it’s $999 cdn for the express impress. The pro is also $930cdn. The old express is now $730cdn so I’m sold with the express impress. Thank you for awesome video. Going online and buying now before sale ends and i have to wait for closer to Christmas for the next sale!! Cheers ❤

@PsYKeDeLiC69 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video, seeing you making the coffee helped me more than just reading or listening to the technical differences. my choice is made, thank you !

@Coffee_Kev 8 ай бұрын

Glad you have found my post helpful :-)

@kjsmama10 5 ай бұрын

The express impression it is! Thank you. Watching their bean grinder that fast and ready to go, I was sold 😂

@Coffee_Kev 5 ай бұрын

It's a great machine, I hope you enjoy it!

@potorus 9 ай бұрын

Just the job, Kev, just ordered the Impress one.Thank you :)

@TheCrazyenovy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your video. Seems the express impress is the machine for me. I don't think I can dial in and weights carefully in hectic mornings before work and the automatic tamping dosing is nice. While I can still learn and practice manual tamping during weekends. Yeah

@OLG3 Жыл бұрын

Great review! Leaning toward the Impress because of the ease of use (and the cleanliness most importantly) for quick mornings and occasional guest use but I do also have the Smart Grinder Pro for my Precision Brewer. Thought process is that I mainly use the Impress for day to day use and as I inevitably go through the rabbit hole I can then transfer over to the Smart Grinder Pro for dosing and tamping if it ever got to that point. Video definitely helped me!

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have made your decision :-) Let me know how you get on. Cheers Kev

@OLG3 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev A week into the Impress and it’s been great. Had major difficulties the first 24 hours because I was using a light roasted bean (and likely older bean too) and it was jamming the grinder producing a major clicking sound…had to go all the way to grind setting 4 to pull a proper shot….it was producing great espresso but the dose amount was really inconsistent….and I was wondering if I had made a mistake in buying this product in the first place. Had me concerned but after switching to Intelligentsia Black Cat and then dialing in…..it has been flawless. Black Cat grind setting is on 11 and we’re off and running. Really easy to use, very clean process and workstation, and great results.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@OLG3 Glad you are enjoying the impress OG

@superlimpiter1135 Жыл бұрын

Great vid, so enjoyable!🙏🙏

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍🙂

@AmiAki Жыл бұрын

Impress is using old makeup of the express that’s my only reason for not wanting it. Like give my the thermal jet and the better steam wand on the impress and it would have been perfect for me. Going for the pro, also like the automatic steaming option

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm guessing they did it on the express first as the Express is still the most popular model I believe, and probably because to do it on the pro and/or touch would probably end up not being quite as good a seller due to higher cost. That's my theory, I may be wrong. The impress has sold very well, so I would be hugely surprised if they don't roll this system out to the others. Logically in terms of features the touch would be the obvious one to 'impressify' as auto steaming would be the perfect addition to an assisted machine. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we see impress versions of the pro and the touch.

@BjørjaBear 7 ай бұрын

Excellent diction, easy to understand for a non-native speaker of English.

@Coffee_Kev 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Kim :-)

@laurenritchie2616 Жыл бұрын

For someone who doesn't use a coffee machine, it was very helpful to see how easy it was for Oli and Wes to use. Great to know that it didn't taste any different, seems foolproof to make a good coffee!

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Thanks Lauren, The Impress is a great machine :-) Cheers Kev

@nemanjastanimirov2684 Жыл бұрын

Well, they used already dialed in grinder, it’s not that simple. Using a scale and timer is a must! You will never dial in coffee without scale and timer! But if you buy small bags of coffee and use always the same coffee in theory you will need only one dialing in. Dialing in is the most important thing of all for good espresso. Its the difference why with the same coffee in some cafes you get sweet and balanced shot and in other sour or bitter dry.

@goldfish8196 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video - Great . It was just a bit confusing to see you using the pro while talking about the Impress

@andromedach Жыл бұрын

are there tips for the impress you can buy with two or three holes and how do they work?

@konstantinosgavriilidis5440 Жыл бұрын

I'm seriously considering the impress. So far, I haven't seen anyone claiming that it makes worse coffee compared to the more manual models and it has the added versatility.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

If you see from 4:47 onwards, this is me (a fairly experienced home barista) using the pro, vs Oli & Wes (who have never used an espresso machine) with the express impress. My blind tasting from 8:38, should be a fairly decent gauge as to whether the Express Impress does what it's supposed to: enable similar results in the hands of a novice vs an experienced home barista. Cheers, Kev.

@mikepearson8553 Жыл бұрын

I've been lucky enough to have been trained in the fundamentals of coffee making at Allpress Espresso and I've made coffee in a commercial environment. I own an Impress, and I think it's a great machine. If you dial the shot times in correctly to your personal preferences it consistently makes a really good coffee with minimal waste, mess, and hassle. The only thing I would say is that I originally had a Black Truffle finish machine but I sent it back and now have the stainless steel version. The painted black finish on my machine was very delicate and started chipping off in places after only a few weeks. Sage's customer support was excellent though, they swapped the machine out for me with no fuss. Also, as Kev says, you can take it fully manual if you want to start experimenting.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Cheers Mike, I concur. Interesting re the black truffle, I've got quite an old beat up dual boiler in that colour which hasn't chipped at all, so I wonder if that's a batch issue or something? Ta, Kev.

@mikepearson8553 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev Yeah it could well be that's the case, especially if you have a different machine in the same finish that's proved to be robust. Really happy with both the machine and the aftersales support from Sage.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@mikepearson8553 Cheers Mike, I usually prefer the black ones to the silver ones, silver stainless steel looks great but if you even pretend to touch them the fingerprints appear in anticipation! 😆

@jordan421789 Жыл бұрын

Would you say that the express impress is for those who want the option of assisted or manual? Thank you!

@AnayVlad 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. If I understand well, beside the speed of the steaming system, there are little differences between the 2 machines in favor of the Pro. Actually the Impress can do the sane job with a couple of accessories, while the Pro won't ever offer the features of the Impress. That's It?

@MasterBlaster377 Жыл бұрын

Do you recommend a bottomless portafilter for the Impress?

@tj1470 9 ай бұрын

Which is the easiest to clean out if the 2 machines?

@bennygordon5898 Жыл бұрын

I have the impress now for a couple of weeks and I would be very interested in the tools allowing me to do a manual dose, distribution and tamping. It took me a bag of beans to dial it in but I haven't looked back since. It is an impressive machine, excuse the pun!

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Hi Benny, haha, puns always welcome here ;-). All you need to do to dose manually, is to get a 54mm tamper (either the official ones breville.oie8.net/BXZ0MB from Sage/Breville or any aftermarket tamper for 54mm portafilters) and the dosing funnel breville.oie8.net/5b9gNb - if you want to distribute using WDT then you'll need a distribution tool (I have one of these bit.ly/wdt025mm ) then just unscrew the splitter on the portafilter, or if you prefer, use an aftermarket bottomless portafilter (I have this one: amzn.to/3OT4qqx). Cheers, Kev.

@bavster Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev re: dosing funnel - I’ve tried 3 x different aftermarket ones that work with the express and they are a right squeeze into the impress but the dosing light does not come on. Kev - does this dosing light come on with the official Sage one? I’ve now got that on order to try. Thanks.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@bavster Hi Bav, The light does come on with the official sage one. Cheers Kev

@n00buo Жыл бұрын

I recently bought Barista Pro and it is the best machine I've ever used, always making impressive espresso. Pre infusion is key, always 1:2 18>36 in 30 sec

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying the Pro Jose :-0

@CK637 Жыл бұрын

Are you able to use an aftermarket bottomless portafilter on the Impress and still take advantage of all of the automatic grinding and dosing with it? The Impress looks like a great all-around tool for a beginner in the hobby like myself, which will allow me to grow my skills with it over time, and make things easy on lazy mornings. Would be nice to be able to see the shot as it pulls. Love these reviews and comparisons, cheers!

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Yup, video coming soon. Cheers :-), Kev.

@bavster Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is exactly what I am doing currently. Here’s a short of mine in action kzfaq.info2skJ3HoIAAU you can see a few sprays, but this is with no distribution whatsoever.

@renefloor5348 Жыл бұрын

Impress looks good and I was considering it but with the black Friday, the Express was the best deal. Over £200 cheaper.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a shame they didn't put the Express Impress in the Black Friday deals, I was sure they would. I was wrong!

@renefloor5348 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev surely the Express will do the job 😃

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Express is great, it's basically the Express Impress just without the assistance.

@joelwylde Жыл бұрын

The impress was actually on sale over here in the US for Cyber Monday.

@t0mm0hawktv62 Жыл бұрын

Hi Kev, love my express impress machine, I bought one after watching your vids. I’m looking at getting a bottomless porter filter for it but I’m unsure which to go for. Any recommendations? Thanks

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

I've got this one: amzn.to/3Vv5Aea it works well. Ta, Kev.

@louisd95714 Жыл бұрын

This is a great comparison! I am not surprised that the quality is the same because they are both using the same grinder. Looks like the Express Impress was Frankenstined from the Express. Does the Impress have a true porta filter and cup warmer like the Express?

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Yes they're both using the same grinder, but the fact that the quality is the same in the hands of people who've never used an espresso machine before, using standard baskets (not pressurized) vs the barista pro in the hands of someone who's been using traditional machines for a good few years, is impressive, imho. Yes the impress has the same portafilter as the express, and it's the same original thermocoil so the cup warmer gets as warm as the express. Cheers, Kev.

@louisd95714 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev Cool, I didn't realize that the Impress was being used by your team who were not familiar with making espresso. I guess there's an espresso maker for everyone. :)

@bavster Жыл бұрын

I have the Impress and got accessories such as bottomless portafilter, which highlights a bit of channelling using the auto tamp. Kevin - you mention in this video that you can manually distribute and tamp and also use the dosing funnel, but how? Is there enough room once the funnel is attached to the portafilter so that it doesn’t clash with the top of the drip tray? Thanks PS; Love the videos.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Thanks :-). Yeah, bottomless PF is great but it does highlight issues with the shot which you might not have been able to taste. Yeah if you're using a bottomless portafilter or the standard one with the splitter unscrewed, you can get the portafilter in with the dosing ring. kzfaq.infoM0zjhLGhMco Cheers, Kev

@andromedach Жыл бұрын

Do you tamp more than one time? I tamp three times using the lever and have not experienced channeling, I am using a double bottomless filter basket. I need to find a single dose bottomless basket next but I am not sure when I will make single doses

@bavster Жыл бұрын

@@andromedach I tamp 3-4 times too then blow away the excess grounds. I also use a puck screen which keeps the shower screen cleaner. Obviously an optional extra.

@joewalls123 Жыл бұрын

Great video Kev! I've just bought the Barista Express but struggling to get it dialled in (despite watching your dialing in video over and over 😂) I'm using fresh beans, I'm putting 19g in and getting 38 out in 30 seconds, but the pressure dial on the machine goes way past the suggested area and the coffee doesn't taste that great, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

@99Crell Жыл бұрын

You want to aim for the dial being vertical - so either : 1) Ease off on the grind (mine's generally been on 2-6 depending on the beans) to reduce the pressure, or 2) tamp with a bit less enthusiasm :) . It takes practice. The only reason I'm here is my Express just died after 5+ years and I'm looking for a replacement (probably the Pro)

@simonsmedley9159 5 ай бұрын

Where do you get your aprons from Kev?

@budgetwithsiân 7 ай бұрын

I’m considering buying the express or the UK breville barista max. Is there any chance you can do a side by side on them? I’m sure you have both machines? Can’t find any comparisons on these two and I’m loving your videos

@Coffee_Kev 7 ай бұрын

Here is the video doing just that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZp6eK2WlczNqHU.html Cheers Kev

@g2m4 Жыл бұрын

I have a Breville impress machine . Although it makes great coffee. I have failed to get my extraction times between 31-36 seconds as most point out . I used 3 different sets of beans but still have to use the grind size of 4 -6 to get a higher extraction. Can someone guide me with what I might be doing wrong . I use freshly roasted beans and find those grind sizes to be too fine ? Am I doing something wrong. All demos suggest starting at 12 grind size. I have settled at 24 sec extractions with grind size 5 for now.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Hi Glen, How does your coffee taste? Don't focus on the numbers too much. See kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y8dpo61pldDOcZs.html I recommend aiming for a shot window of 20-35 seconds, and from there just dialing in by taste. At 24 seconds, I'd just take note of the taste - is there anything wrong with it, and if so, what is the issue? If it's sourness, then this is a sign of under extraction, so you can work to up the extraction. If it's bitterness, this is usually over-extraction, and you can work to reduce the extraction. More videos coming very soon on this. Cheers Kev

@andrewglover7142 Жыл бұрын

Love the videos .I recently purchased a barista express impress. Can you tell me the grind settings you have your machine set to

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Cheers Andres, I was fairly fine with the bean I had in both machines, around 3 or 4 I think. Ta, Kev.

@unknownregions5014 3 ай бұрын

For americano its always hot water then coffee otherwise you burn the coffee

@cosminplesea9499 Жыл бұрын

Hi Kev. Hope that you will help me out. I'm not sure what to get. I'm between Barista express impress and Delonghi La Specialista Maestro? Can i have your opinion on Delonghi as i watch all your videos about barista express impress? That will be really appreciate. Thanks

@cosminplesea9499 Жыл бұрын

I have to mention that i have a barista express and i was pretty happy with it until recently when it break down after 3 years. I'm considering La Specialista maestro as my wife likes latte/ cappuccino but she doesn't have patience/ skills to steam the milk 🤷‍♂️😄. Thanks

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

I've not used the Maestro, but it has the same 8 grind settings as the Arte (which I have used) so that would tilt me towards the impress. Plus I believe the la specialista doesn't quite do the same as the impress where the dose is concerned - although I'll have to get my hands on one to do a proper comparison of course. Cheers 👍

@cosminplesea9499 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev thanks

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

no worries :-)

@oman3590 Жыл бұрын

What size of cups are you using to make Americano

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

8 oz, so these are small Americanos, double shot, nice & strong

@StephenRandall Жыл бұрын

Will my Barista Express Impress come with an Oli & Wes or do I have to order separately?

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

If it comes with an Oli & Wes, be prepared for pranks... did you see the bit at the end? "Oh Kev, stick your hand out in this section we'll superimpose a can of beans, it'll look great.... 🤭🤔

@brickovenvideoproduction Жыл бұрын

You might have to get in touch with Sage for that. Could be part of a bundle offer.

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@brickovenvideoproduction Haha funnily enough they do a Beanz bundle (beanz.com) but not baked beans.

@StephenRandall Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev haha! I missed the editor note - I just thought you were offering up the useless info in your hand 🫴 😂

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@StephenRandall haha 😆

@krasimirkozov9297 Жыл бұрын

Which is the best grinding position you using for Barista Express impress?

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

You mean grind size? If so this depends on the coffee, and whether the internal grind adjustment has been tweaked. It's just a case of trying a grind size and adjusting from there. Cheers, Kev.

@krasimirkozov9297 Жыл бұрын

I am using grind size 4 with Illy classic coffee beans 100% arabica , but the shot is not creamy its a bit watery. Should I adjust the internal grinder?

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@krasimirkozov9297 for these kind of beans I'd recommend using dual walled baskets, grind more coarse and don't worry about shot time at all. If you want to use the standard baskets and dial in, you really need freshly roasted beans. Ta, Kev

@gooding18123 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev I’ve still got some supermarket beans that are not freshly roasted whilst waiting for your chocolate brownie beans. Would you suggest using dual walled baskets for supermarket beans if you only have those. Been using the Taylor’s of Harrogate rich Italian beans just while I was getting used to how to use it would it give a better coffee and less bitter and swap back into single for the fresh beans

@krasimirkozov9297 Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev Thank you very much.

@TheAudirob Жыл бұрын

Kev, just starting out and would like to know your opinion on what a good machine would be to start. Thanks, Rob

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Hi Rob, Do you see yourself as someone who wants to learn to become a home barista or would you like a a machine that does everything for you? Cheers Kev

@TheAudirob Жыл бұрын

@@Coffee_Kev Hi Kev, I really don't have the time to learn the barista skills especially first thing in a morning before work. It would be nice to make a drink and take it with me. Had loads of pod machines and machines that take ground coffee etc. Not really found anything good to be honest. Rob

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

@@TheAudirob Hi Rob, Have you considered the Impress?

@TheAudirob Жыл бұрын

Hi Kev, I've not heard of this. Have you done a review of it? Thanks, Rob

@SamCableguy Жыл бұрын

I was sure I wanted the pro and then went to go buy it in person this weekend and was just drawn to the Express Impress because of how elegant and fancy it looks. The Pro looks more like a basic coffee machine because of the screen. I don’t know why it just somehow looks cheaper and more plastic in person I’m glad I went with the Impress because it is so easy to get a perfect shot out of it. I don’t have to worry about manual tamping pressure and such. I get a perfect creamy shot every time now

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam, I'm glad you are enjoying your coffee from the Impress, it is a great machine! Cheers Kev

@alphakowaclips Жыл бұрын

The express impress definitely 'impressed' me 😏

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@AnasKhalilanaskhl 5 ай бұрын

can you check at what pressure the extraction happened in the barista pro?

@Coffee_Kev 5 ай бұрын

No there's no pressure gauge on the pro, you just go by shot time and taste.

@AnasKhalilanaskhl 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, actually the pressure gauge comes in handy. I thought there is an option to see the pressure in the screen that’s why I asked.

@AnasKhalilanaskhl 5 ай бұрын

I want to ask you a question if possible. I bought the barista express impress. I’m having some difficulties choosing the right grind size. The coffee comes up sour even though the grind is very fine. The settings of the grinder is 5 inside and 14 outside. I have a scale. The coffee is 18 gram and it is giving double the coffee amount in about 30 seconds. Do you have any suggestion

@Realdoc9410 Жыл бұрын

Like for early cookie 🍪

@brickovenvideoproduction Жыл бұрын

Can we have two?

@atticustay1 Жыл бұрын

Express impress is such a silly name

@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын

Hi, what would you have called it? Maybe I should start a poll to find out alternative names (knowing full well the most suggested will be espresso machine Mc espresso machine face! 😆)