Sage of Quay™ - Mike Stock - Inside The Music Business

Sage of Quay™ - Mike Stock - Inside The Music Business - YouTube Edition (July 2022)

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Mike is an English songwriter, record producer, musician, and member of the songwriting and production trio Stock Aitken Waterman. He has written and/or produced 18 No. 1 records in America and the UK, over one hundred top-40 hits, and is recognized as one of the most successful songwriters of all time by the Guinness Book of Records. In the 1980s and 90s as part of Stock Aitken and Waterman, Mike holds the UK record of 11 number one records with different acts. And, in the UK Singles Chart, he has written 54 top-ten hits including 7 number ones.
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@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

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@elijahjames8837 6 ай бұрын

Hey Mike have you ever thought of looking into the Eagles?

@veggielady5571 2 жыл бұрын

This interview is monumental! He is an actual songwriter that tells it like it was and how it is presently. I really hope Mike Stock comes back soon. Thank you Mike Stock and Mike Williams!

@gehanoates885 Күн бұрын

Fascinating conversation. I remember all of Mike's hits from the 80s onwards. Never knew they tried stop him. He knows all about Billy. Billy has to pay, he madeva deal with the devil

@williem1710 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Quite a coup to get a guy of Stocks pedigree. Obviously he has remained his own man throughout. Refreshing. His comments on Billy are intriguing. You almost feel sorry for Billy still having to perform at 85 to feed the bloodsuckers who created him. Like so many of them - Stones, Dylan, Young et al. But that’s what happens when you sell your soul. Great work, Mike.

@laveritaforza108 Жыл бұрын

Right. I believe when they really get their big chance, they will have it explained that the business will make sure the " character" becomes famous/ successful etc. and they will be " allowed" to play him. They know they're signing up for " life". Bob Dylan ( Robert Zimmermann), when he was asked why he's still doing it, said, ,he was holding up his part of the deal , by continuing ( to play the character Bob Dylan).

@NEILSEANSSHOWBIZ Жыл бұрын

I worked for Mike at this period and its 100 per cent spot on - a very stressful time and so many great hits lots all down to sheer jealousy of true talent, the man is a genius and should now be a Sir - Best Neil Sean

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@annmhtown9226 2 жыл бұрын

I just looked up more of his songs. HOLY COW this guy is a LEGEND!! All those Dead or Alive songs are still rotating in my playlist when I’m working out. Many of them you never heard on the radio, just the clubs as he mentioned. I have such awesome memories dancing to all those songs in Houston clubs back in the day. Awesome interview Mike.

@ThePorkypete51 8 ай бұрын

Mike Stock sounds like a man of character. Fascinating interview.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 8 ай бұрын

Mike is one of the good guys.

@inbillsmind3048 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing 👍👍 Some real empathy for Billy’s entrapment , it’s a good lesson when you sign up for something make sure you have really thought it through thoroughly ,

@wookie79logos81 2 жыл бұрын

I agree…today, I saw a YT clip recommended to me- something about Keith Richards warming up backstage somewhere recently, but all I saw was this very old, crotchety & frail man hunched over an electric guitar - looked like senile abuse to be honest. (also didn’t know KR is only 5’7”…funny how ‘the stage’ amplifies one’s stature)

@allensnyder8294 2 жыл бұрын

Good morning Mike . Can't be said enough, thanks for all your hard work presenting wisdom and knowledge to us . It is much appreciated. Love your guest Mike Stock .

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome

@sanguinefan1734 2 жыл бұрын

Watched the original on another platform. Stock was interviewed recently on the Delingpod. But this is better. A 'nearly' insider who was barred from the club when he refused the invitation. Brilliant video.

@brexitdave8995 Жыл бұрын

Remember watching Mike play on the old East London circuit (The Cranbrook, Brunnel Arms & The 3 rabbits (where Mike gave me my first gig supporting him) in a band called Nightwork, really nice bloke and became friends back in early 80s.

@laveritaforza108 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated interview Mike. Amazing, back in the day, I thought SAW "were" the business, certainly didn't think of them as bucking the system. Incredible. And that Mike Stock talks reasonably openly about it when he knows, even now , what he's potentially forfeiting. Excellent show. The song Mike Stock is talking about " You Spin me" , has over 200 million on KZfaq.

@marcm9999 2 жыл бұрын

Your hard work is so appreciated. I bet you have no idea of how many people you have enlightened. Many of my friends who are casual observers now regularly refer to Fauxl as Billy! It blow my mind. Thanks again for all you do!

@steffanhoffmann8937 Жыл бұрын

I must have missed this a few weeks ago. Thanks 👍 An outstanding, *rabbit out of the hat* moment Mike! This gent was so humble. I've of course heard of him. Couldn't fail to, in the mid to late eighties. Charts were full of their songs. I won't bore you with the artists. You're already aware of them. I saw Queen at Wembley, so sorry can't remember the year. Mercury was hopeless on three numbers. His voice was rough. I was near the front. My friend swore to me, that he was miming at one stage; and Roger Taylor covered his vocal, unseen at the back. I didn't believe him. However my mind went back a bit, to the mid 70s, I saw them and I remember the band couldn't recreate the sound. The difference? Technology. Coming together nicely about the impostor. Bye-bye mate. I'll catch up with the other stuff you've included; another time. Many thanks again.

@adamdavidson454 2 жыл бұрын

Mike, Great show & channel! Mike Stock was a great guest. I hate watching news, but I can listen to you everyday to keep awakened! Thank you for your helping me in to watching what happens around me daily. It’s never too late to wake up. Thank you and keep going!

@limpet9 Ай бұрын

I was never a fan of the SAW "sound" but to be fair Mr. Stock comes across as a genuine, and down to earth chap. I enjoyed the whole interview. Well done.

@Ptpop 2 жыл бұрын

Great research and presentation. I’m a musician and you’ve confirmed my suspicions and opened my eyes to a brand new world.

@peterstudley1804 2 жыл бұрын

Wow Mike what a presentation you have done it again, and Mike stock is so humble, he comes across as a real gentleman, stock aitken & waterman were a real powerhouse in the mid to late 1980s here in the UK, I really admire his honesty and integrity. Thank you both so much.

@rosconorth 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic interview. Was absolutely fascinating

@BaronsDuju 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview. Thanks for this, Mike.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening

@lloydbevan3619 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this interview. Very insightful and how wonderful to have a successful gentleman like Mike discussing openly the system. SAW had the biggest independent sales in the 8os in UK. That's a big achievement. They seriously rocked the boat.

@randybackgammon890 5 ай бұрын

Nobody rocks the boat really.Might look like it

@vacuum4364 2 жыл бұрын

looking forward to this Mike 👍 Thank You🙏

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you like it!

@backthisway 6 ай бұрын

Superb interview - many thanks to Mike Stock for being so down to earth and fun to listen to.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@smh339 Жыл бұрын

Wow great video, this really cheered me up. Must feel good to be vindicated from such a big name in the biz. Mike you knocked this one out of the park. Cheers!

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@mmiii Жыл бұрын

Fascinating interview. It explains so much that seemed odd to me growing up in the mid 80s / early 90s. I loved SAW music, but struggled with virtually everything on radio. While Mike talks about the BBC it seemed identical in Germany.

@michaelwebster8666 2 жыл бұрын

A superb interview Mike! I rememberthe SAW (Stock Aitken Waterman) era very well! Thank you Mike & Mike 👍

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@elizabethclayton2587 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview I was one of the people that danced through a decade with stock Aitken waterman songs they were the best music also to work too (Hairdresser) still got all the music.Ive found out about channel through Sheep Farm studios. This isn't mu first watch. I love your stuff thanks 💋

@king77703 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed that Interview, 2 great knowledgeable lads telling us more Info on The Beatles 👍

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening

@gbgn1 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this interview Mike, I really believe there’s a whole lot more he could say!

@blockfrog 2 жыл бұрын

Very good interview. Thank you Mike and Mike!

@asi148 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Another Master piece (pun intended) Bravo 👏👏👏

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@JasePatriot7553 2 жыл бұрын

This was fantastic !!

@jrb4935 2 жыл бұрын

Never gonna give you up...never gonna let you down...

@tredog884 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million! This interview answered many questions. Way to ask the important questions, Mike.

@THECLARENCES 2 жыл бұрын

Kudos to Mike & Mike!!! xoxo The Clarences

@garyglindon9753 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mike another great show, always look forward with great anticipation. Each show you do mike we always learn that little bit more. Most of all mike you always ask the right questions, that myself and all your followers would like to know. Thank you so much👍

@adewey33 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@knickertwistcopperby6066 Жыл бұрын

I admit to disliking Stock, Aitkin & Waterman's music at the time. It was not my 'thing'. Kylie and the like. I remember the 'outrage' from 'real' musicians (who probably weren't even playing on their own records) that S, A & W were 'hogging' the charts. There was a lot of sneering and snobbery. After listening to Mike's side of the story, I completely understand why. What an eye-opener! I was oblivious to any of it. How brilliant that he has been watching Sage of Quay and is prepared to speak honestly about the fab four! Superb!

@matthewjones6466 2 жыл бұрын

This is brilliant, fascinating video, nice one you two.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@markgarrison156 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview Mike! Very enlightening and confirms much of your research on the Beatles and the music industry in general.

@scousebear2234 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this one Mike. Nice one 👍🏽

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@rexgeorg7324 2 жыл бұрын

Cracking interview guys

@montydaniels1054 9 ай бұрын

Great broadcast Mike. Mike Stock was a great guest to interview...

@janbuse5835 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview/discussion, very interesting!

@keithrandall1492 2 жыл бұрын

MOST excellent, thank you!

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@keithrandall1492 2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel It's all brilliant work. What a STRANGE scenario all this is, mind...I'm coming out of the shock and disappointment phase, and into a kind of appalled fascination

@davidotto3731 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview. There must be other songwriters and musicians who have made it big without help of the industry similar to Mike Stock. I have a few ideas who they could be but would imagine we could count it on one or two hands.

@johnlennox1690 2 жыл бұрын

That was fantastic mike i know who he is wrote loads of hits in the 80s for big artists over here its sad that they shur him down the way they did although not surprising pete waterman mustve been the one with the ties into the machine

@ZalMoxis 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview Mike and Mike.... Let it Rut.

@tredog884 2 жыл бұрын

🏆 Best Content Ever Award

@susanjbecker7983 2 жыл бұрын

What an interesting interview, thanks.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening

@ABMasher 2 жыл бұрын

Great get, great interview skills.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening

@freelife102 2 жыл бұрын

Mike, great guest , a real intelligent person .

@diogo_barros 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike 😊👍

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@diogo_barros 2 жыл бұрын

😊🙏👍

@neonskyline1 Жыл бұрын

Mike is the brother in law of a late friend of mine, his sister Catherine died at 46,it was really sad, my friend was a songwriter also, he said Mike would always play His song he wrote Called "gonna make you an offer you can't refuse" cos he loved it, but would never release a cover of it, Mike told me a few things about the music industry.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

Mike is a good man.

@neonskyline1 Жыл бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel his sister was a lovely person and a great singer and classical musician

@donnaworks6352 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, why were the Beatles every moment captured on video and camera before the became super famous. Very suspicious

@anotherblonde Жыл бұрын

Northern Soul(Blackpool Mecca/Wigan Casino) played mostly American B side recordings or demos which their fans loved, knew every word and beat, danced their own moves to all night, made their own clothings to reflect their own scene style, no alcohol sold at the venues, all of which made no money whatsoever for The Man who shut it down as soon as they could, until such time as they could control it, commercialize and milk it.

@jeremyb5468 Жыл бұрын

Mike mentioned billy I look at my battery on my phone 33% of course right.

@johnlennox1690 2 жыл бұрын

Wow hes a real heavyweight over here

@thepickerhat6996 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent Interview, of which i could get alot out of, as a Musician myself. For 05:31 ... same here. If i would try to play Stuff from my Band frrom back in the 90s, i guess i couldn´t do a single Song, aside from Fragments, like single Riffs etc. Would like if you would have the Man again in your Show. Absolutely interesting Personality. Greetings from Germany :)

@AndySalinger33 Жыл бұрын

Same experience here. And like Mike said, if I sit down and work it out on piano or guitar, I can eventually remember bits and pieces, but basically the songs I wrote in my 90s bands have faded from my memory. Side note: It is interesting how sometimes if I happen to try to play one of my old songs, which is very rare, I can revisit the headspace I was in when I wrote it. It’s an interesting phenomenon. I’m sure it’s common amongst writers. Anyway, nice comment. Be well! 🕊

@AndySalinger33 Жыл бұрын

@noonesflower 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, don't know if you'll see this. Do you know where I can get a copy of the 19th century Italian aria on which 'Yesterday' was based?

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

It's in my big presentation: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mcl1m9CClbOYdo0.html&ab_channel=MikeWilliams%27PaulIsDeadChannel

@jrb4935 2 жыл бұрын

@@TeleCaster66 Not sure about Yesterday, but Hey Jude sounds like O Sole Mio.

@kestrelsings 11 ай бұрын

now i have to comment.. i'm at 26:10 and i'm guessing the song he's going to mention is Jason Donovan's 'Nothing can Divide Us'...as the inspiration.. man this is soooo refreshing.. i always loved SAW's music.. but i totally remember they were villified in the music industry everywhere in the early 90's...and said they were 'uncool' and 'cheesy' or whatever... great interview.. Thanks Mike and thanks Mike Stock :)

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 11 ай бұрын

Mike is one of the good guys.

@kestrelsings 11 ай бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Thanks for your reply Mike.. started looking into PID in 2016/2018 and it made so much sense.. and i've followed your channel for a long time and love your shows.. i remember seeing your interview with Patricia Steere- and have followed you and enjoyed your work since.. I'm a musician too, so I'll look forward to sharing some songs in the future..and glad to hear your songs as well..heard Welcome to the Machine earlier and it's great..thanks for all your work, all the best to you and your family and cheers :)

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 11 ай бұрын

If you have your songs on a platfom let me know. I'll post your link to my YT community tab.

@kestrelsings 11 ай бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Thanks so much Mike, I'll send you the link as soon as I upload the first songs in a few weeks. I'm recording songs at the moment (and have a few v old songs on soundcloud as the little flame).. but the new songs will be the ones I'm goin to share under Kestrel and HomeSpunHymns. Take care and thanks again :)

@bryanhernandez2045 2 жыл бұрын

Man, I was hoping you would ask about his work with Billy aka Paul. But a great interview regardless.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Next time. Mike and I will connect again.

@TJ-pc5mq 2 жыл бұрын

Wow wow wow. That was really power packed. I enjoyed listening to Mr Stocks insight into the business. When you spoke about Billy, at the end, I would've loved to have known more of what he knows. You know, the inside info. Thanks. Really great show.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@mywholesomechannel 8 ай бұрын

What a great interview! 👍

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@tabor0510 Жыл бұрын

Oh, to be a fly on the wall for your 'chit chat' after the cameras are off. Mike, I'd be interested on your take as to why Billy got busted in Japan for marijuana possession, where was his team to protect him? To me it sounds like an, 'I dare you', between Billy and the TPTB, for whatever reason, probably money/control issues. They all knew his fingerprints wouldn't match the ones in Germany, at the end of the day the British Empire had to bail him out. This is my second listen to this, such an outstanding interview. Thank you.

@kongmik 2 жыл бұрын

Is there any famous artist where we can say for sure that he did everything from melody, lyrics, studio and live?

@lucasomar5184 Жыл бұрын

Nick Drake, Cat Stevens maybe?

@bobc.5698 2 жыл бұрын

7 minutes missing, what did you cut out of the original?

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

7 minutes at the very end. Link to the FULL interview: tinyurl.com/53esfrtp

@bobc.5698 2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel I already watched it. Was good. Brave Man. I wanted him to name people though.....Lol.

@illuminotmereloaded6896 2 жыл бұрын

Cool, I'm looking forward to catching up with this one. Hey Mike, who is the Danish guy with the briefcases from years back? He is IamaPhony, right? Would he not be an interesting interview? And who was that young fellow who tracked him down and interviewed him? It was all very interesting, and I don't see it talked about very much. Hope all is well. Spectacular moon last night, Buck. Super, just super!

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Billy and Me: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7Bgq82atrLDfYE.html&ab_channel=MikeyNL1038

@SuperMax_____0.0_____ Жыл бұрын

wow theres mafia everywhere

@michaelantoine9604 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview Mike. On a somewhat related topic I have seen so many posts with Ringo's recent birthday with people telling him how young he looks. Can they not see that it must be some kind of body double. That cannot be a man of 82.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. People are extremely gullible. If they looked at video of Ringo from 5-10 years ago he looked older then. We are in one strange reality.

@jakezywek6852 Жыл бұрын

Almost like he's become a 'Stepford Wife' for the establishment, repeating the peace and love thing like a mantra.

@adewey33 2 жыл бұрын

One question : why did Tavistock choose just the Beatles as their MAIN tool for the social engineering? I mean there were other popular bands such as Rolling Stones, Kinks, Pink Floyd, etc. did Tavistock gambled on the Beatles or they allowed the fans choose the band? I understand bands come and go but amazingly Beatles stuck around

@julianlawrence1648 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, Mike: if Neil Ines could write and record all the songs for All You Need Is Cash in two weeks, could the Beatles have not likewise written and recorded Rubber Soul ?

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Who said Neil wrote and recorded all those songs in 2 weeks? If someone is saying that it didn't happen. We have to move off the magic wand premise. The lads could not write 14 new songs in two weeks for the Get Back sessions which was the objective (and documented).

@NatalieBransgroveBassist 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike really great interview thanks. I came across a video on KZfaq of the Dave Clark 5 performing on the Ed Sullivan show where the Backing track failed. There's some interesting comments from a man named Bjorn Shigg who uploaded the video: saying Dave Clark took songwriting credit when the other band members wrote the songs or he paid songwriters for songs and put his name on the credits. Also he states that Dave Clark didn't drum on the recorded tracks or live for that matter. Here's the link to the video, I thought you might find it interesting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7qBmZVn2MDcias.html

@garethdevlin5399 Жыл бұрын

Do you think the Beatles story is very like milli vanillin story in they sign up thinking they would be singing the songs only to be told not and couldn't get out of their contract I mean one of them die just like Paul maybe their manager new the secrets of the Beatles to

@mikebon8352 2 ай бұрын

Back then the record industry relied on managers, record brands/companies, Vinyl and Cd just came out... All was well organised to make it a succes.. Then came napster who changed the game.. a lot of money stopped coming in due to free downloads.. on internet... It never really recovred the music industry... form that Kazaa, winamp, limewire era early 2000s.. They tried to harnass it via Spotify etc but this furter stiffend the music branc, market.. Music blomed form rock and roll era 1950s from bill Haley, andrew sisters and Elvis int fullo on in 1970s... aftre whichthe synthesizer and drumcomputer were introduced... Which also gave Music industry an extra life, decade or 2 till 2000s.. These days.. Taylor swift.. whta the hell is that... she looks weird, dont play music and is a billionaire.. says also enough compared to 1980s milionaires Madonna or MJ that the dollar is falling in worth..

@dominicdavison8590 Жыл бұрын

Firstly Paul Mccartney is 80 not 85. Agree his voice is nowhere near as strong as it was but his performance at Glastonbury was roundly praised by most critics. Secondly the whole video argument really started 40 years ago with MTV and not when KZfaq started. So there is nothing new there. Mccartney has written more number one hits than anyone else both in the UK and US, with the Beatles, Wings and other artists with all due respect..

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

WRONG across the board Dominic. If you are interested in learning you can start here 👉 tinyurl.com/8tah3cu7 otherwise hang out here 👉 kzfaq.info

@jeremyb5468 Жыл бұрын

What secret societies has he been asked 2 join

@lorichet Жыл бұрын

And Jesus walked on ground that belonged to the occultic Roman Empire. Does that mean that Jesus was tarnished too? Of course not! What this man says about the Catholic Church is sheer nonsense.

@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel Жыл бұрын

Please research the history of the Holy Roman church.

@lorichet Жыл бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel I did. And I prayed a lot. That's why I eventually left Protestantism and became Catholic. The Bible came from God via the Catholic Church. "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant." ~ John Henry Cardinal Newman (former Protestant) "I would not believe in the Gospel if the Authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so." ~ St. Augustine

@lorichet Жыл бұрын

@@MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel One more thing I'd like to add -- as Taylor Marshall put it well, we would never leave Christ because there was a Judas among His Disciples. So we don't leave Christ's Church because there are Judases in His Church. I do think your videos are very well done, though.