Sailing the HH44 catamaran - the freshest new fast cruising multihull

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5 ай бұрын

Innovative and contemporary in style and technology, this electrified HH44 takes premium end fast multihull cruising to a new level for this size says Toby Hodges after a quick first trial. See the report in Yachting World Feb 2024.
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@duanejohnson6271 4 ай бұрын

The Wynns of "Gone With The Wynns," just took delivery of an HH-44, hull #3. They are blue water cruisers that have a great channel.

@ultimatist 5 ай бұрын

Amazing boat. Especially love the flexibility from the hybrid diesel/electric setup, and prop recharge under wind power.

@johnqdoe 3 ай бұрын

Sick boat for a couple. The Wynns made a good choice. Superior design and build. Good balance of tech and backup. Needs color on this one - too bleak!

@ShellyMartz 5 ай бұрын

Such a leap forward in design, functionality and livability. I LOVE this boat and I really appreciate this review because we are in the market and find this "the boat to beat." Thanks for the review.

@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын

A pleasure, thank you Shelly

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

Much to like. Thanks Toby and HH. The naval architecture by M&M seems very solid.

@Andre-yu3qs 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic, thanks for sharing.

@TheSailingFamily 5 ай бұрын

Great tour Toby! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын

A pleasure - can I have a longer go next time please?!

@TheSailingFamily 5 ай бұрын

@@yachtingworld Absolutely! We're working on that. :)

@bertmacdonald337 5 ай бұрын

Nowt wrong with a quickie Tobes, as my missus loves to say! Can`t wait for your full tour though mate ! Thanks for your thoughts on this little taster, great to see how the performance cat market has changed over the last five years with re-gen, hybrid systems. Builders like HH, Kinetic and of course Balance setting the bar for others to follow!

@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын

😉

@ShellyMartz 5 ай бұрын

Except neither Kinetic or Balance offer electric options. 🤷‍♀Neither offer this much solar. No pocket doors. No flip up windows. No folding transoms. I'd say HH nailed it with this one personally!

@BoatLife_DansBoatLife 5 ай бұрын

Awesome cat! I like what HH are doing

@zaharizahariev 5 ай бұрын

Gorgeous baby looking wild and fast.

@user-ev4jt3om3r 5 ай бұрын

Awesome boat from every perspective.

@GerardButler-bt2gz 3 ай бұрын

that crack sounds would annoy me ...

@PJCelis 2 ай бұрын

I really like this catamaran and its existence is going to push expectations higher for future catamarans of all brands. Love the approach of maximising solar as a design objective, coupled with parallel hybrid engines with regen on shaft drives! Truly best of all worlds.

@joseerazevedo 5 ай бұрын

VERY interesting boat! I've been wanting to see if all they promised since the project began turned into reality and it seems so. Hope you can show more soon. Thanks!

@ShellyMartz 5 ай бұрын

I had the same thoughts. Hybrid Electric with 4,000+ watts of solar!? Folding transoms!? Pocket Doors!? Flip up window?! Carbon/Epoxy construction?! All for the price of an Outremer 4X or a Balance 442?! Clearly this boat is ahead of its time and it is awesome to see it in real life. Looks just like the renders too. LOVING IT!

@kqschwarz 4 ай бұрын

Great review. I want one.

@mustafaoshaughnessy3198 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Toby & YW!

@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын

👍

@maine-lygamingtips2039 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic cat 👍

@PatriciaStevens-rv6kn 5 ай бұрын

Wow! I’ve been a sailor since the late 70’s and have lived aboard both multihulls and a monohull. Watching this video, I see a 44’ Catamaran in sea trials and just watching the ‘hobby horsing’ I’m feeling seasick, and concerned for the Wynn’s decision to purchase the same HH model. I certainly hope they don’t regret their decision!!! It doesn’t seem to have enough waterline length to move forward with solid stability in choppy seas. A recipe for disaster. IMO. What does everyone else think?

@rumbepack 5 ай бұрын

You think another cat of similar length would be doing better in these conditions? As good as the HH engineers are I don't think they can overcome physics.

@PatriciaStevens-rv6kn 5 ай бұрын

@@rumbepack no. I’m wondering if a performance ultralight catamaran with no dagger boards and a taller mast might need more water length to lessen the hobby horsing ???!!! I think it’s a beautiful boat to look at, but in other HH Cats that are larger I have not seen the extreme hobby horsing motion. That’s all, just wondering..

@zaharizahariev 5 ай бұрын

Nothing to worry about you get used to it. Ideally the cat have to be above 60 to sit on top of two waves but with that size you need crew and the systems and winch size is becoming ridiculous.

@robertfranc2365 5 ай бұрын

You really wonder why with all the technology we dont have side by side on the day testing with load, motion, sound data. Truely a multihull of the year test.

@alexfuller818 5 ай бұрын

Yes the hobby horsing motion is very noticeable. Independent Catamaran cat is on 36 ft and sails more gracefully.

@derekge5794 4 ай бұрын

very pretty, clean design. Would love to know her speed in sub 10 knots compared to Outremer 25 or Balance 442.

@LanceBrown-jz8hn 5 ай бұрын

I say thanks for the review, you need to review what the industry makes and you do a great job of that. If people think these boats are too expensive, don't buy them.

@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@rolfsvensson5777 3 ай бұрын

With the prop spinning most of the time! How is the gearbox holding up?

@CompulsoryDemocracy 5 ай бұрын

Is it full carbon or carbon reinforced glass? non the less extremely well thought out and Fast!

@davidmartin3947 4 ай бұрын

Full carbon, as he mentions in the video.

@mtrezaie 5 ай бұрын

I could never get an answer for this. I even emailed them. Would it be possible to beach this boat (either version dagerboard or keel)? Is there an option to add like mini skeg to add the ability to beach it?

@skyedivers 5 ай бұрын

Not a chance. The rudders are spade rudders ie: little paddles sticking out below the hulls. They would snap right off if you tried to beach it. There's two little rudders, one on each side astern, so if you beach it, you'd end up with two big holes at the back. Hit a reef, or any large, submerged heavy object in deep water and it's bye bye $2 mill cat.

@AmericanMcGeeOfficial 5 ай бұрын

I visited the factory in Xiamen and asked this question (along with many others). The answer is "no," you cannot beach this cat or any variation of it.

@mtrezaie 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the answers. I wish it could. This and raisable rudder and would make a perfect catamaran for me.

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

High aspect ratio foils and rudders say otherwise. It's a performance boat, not a beach cat.

@skyedivers 4 ай бұрын

Most of these new performance cats also come with stern drive engines ie: the engine block sits inside the hull, while a large out drive leg containing all the drive gears sticks down into the water below the water line out of two massive holes in the hulls - one on each side. This means you don't want to risk the drive legs hitting bottom. Even touching, or even bouncing on sandy bottoms at anchor may damage the prop and drive legs, or even rip the big water proof skirts that (hopefully) keeps any water from flooding into the engine bays. There are some cat manufacturers with cats that can be beached: eg: Seawinds, up to about 52ft I believe. Fair winds.

@philipwright7186 5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure those boarding gates open inwards, and I'm not convinced by the position of the winches which will drop the tails all over the instruments and switches. It's a pretty stark interior, too I guess you can option different finishes to an extent. But wow, the performance. It seems monohull and multihull are converging, the former with space, the latter with performance. Reckon the cruising version is the one to get to keep the price sensible, but with the foils.

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

In what sense does a monohull have more space, especially when counting the salon and aft (and fore) deck area of a cat? Perhaps you're critiquing the narrow hulls of performance cats?

@philipwright7186 5 ай бұрын

@@LoanwordEggcorn No I'm saying monohulls are getting more spacious because they're getting wider, and cockpits are changing by becoming more open from stern to companionway, to try and compete with the cats. That's what I meant by converging.

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

@@philipwright7186 Thanks, makes sense. The wider beam is also a trend for better hull performance when heeled, from racing monos.

@lc285 2 ай бұрын

Just curious. Do the carbon fiber boats make more squeaking noises than fiberglass boats?

@user-ev4jt3om3r 5 ай бұрын

Should have given the Outremer 52 a go. That would say lots about the real performance of the 44 and the 52.

@ShellyMartz 5 ай бұрын

He did.

@gabrielalmeida6674 4 ай бұрын

do you really wanna compare the performance of a 44 against a 52? that's cute

@tatman8240 5 ай бұрын

Wow man. I didn't hear any squeaks.

@lc285 2 ай бұрын

Squeaks heard at 3:47, 4:44, (maybe from sail)?

@ukpitts 5 ай бұрын

I have no cat experience (except dinghys : Dart & Tornado) & I get the selling points, shallow draft, big deck level living, power and performance, but crucialy i will never have £1m + to spend on a complicated depreciating asset of any kind so i am not the makers target market. But I would relish a chance to have some experience on one & see how this type of design behaves on a long upwind leg. Probably better than lots of us might immagine i think…..?

@Abc-kf4qx 5 ай бұрын

Can’t help but notice how close those pillars are to the winches, does not look like a great design choice. Is it just me?

@effingsix3825 5 ай бұрын

If it were a monohull, you’d have to wear a harness in case you get pitched overboard. Like that the sounds were included.

@Tb0n3 5 ай бұрын

The idea of using the propellers as a hydrovane needs to be more common. It's basically free power under sail unless you're a racer with a folding prop.

@laurapitre5797 5 ай бұрын

It's not free when it costs 100k!

@Tb0n3 5 ай бұрын

@@laurapitre5797 Free as in you already have power from the wind, why not put some of that into the batteries without lowering your fuel level. It's like regenerative braking in cars. It would be easy to do if it were just electric drive, but I'm sure it's much more complicated when it's directly driven by an engine.

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

@@Tb0n3 HH is using a Beta Marine hybrid where the prop can be driven by diesel or electric. Long term, electric drives will be standard in sailboats because the synergy of being able to motor electrically off anchor/marina/mooring, then recharging the energy used simply by sailing, is just too good. It also fits the sailing ethic of working WITH nature much better than burning fossil fuels. One can also use hydrogeneration on long passages to top up the batteries and power house loads under way, though solar also does much of the work. At a sunny anchorage, solar can be more than enough for house loads, including air conditioning, appliances, etc.

@efrank39 3 ай бұрын

Some strange choices at the helm stations. The lines are routed such that the tail ends drape over the chart plotter, no sheltered seating, nothing to brace against while trimming and it was obviously awkward when the trimmer and helmsman were on the same side. Maybe the helms are just diiferent and not so bad in practice, but they didnt look all that flash in this short vid.

@paulwalker5921 3 ай бұрын

The Versahelm allows the helmsman to tilt the wheel inboard so he can sit on the comfortable bench, giving sheltered helming on long passages and away from the winches. This short review didn't show that feature.

@ralfzacherl9942 5 ай бұрын

What's the price?

@JaakkoHeikura 5 ай бұрын

Maybe watch the video? This one 1,4 but they start at 1,1

@stoerenungeheuer543 5 ай бұрын

@@JaakkoHeikura You could build a fleet of about 20+ Globe580's with this money.

@johnqdoe 3 ай бұрын

OC is $800K.

@winterhawk1987 5 ай бұрын

Would be nice if you can show the VPP listed polars and compare it to actual speeds, all the videos I have seen, the boat doesn't sail anywhere near the listed speeds. Also I don't see being able to race this as the helm and trimmer are in each others way, can you even manually grind the winches as they are in such an awkward position

@TheSailingFamily 5 ай бұрын

Polars are always written with "ideal conditions" in mind, so flat seas, consistent wind, no current, etc. I don't think it would help much to show the polars on a day like the one Toby is showing as those looked like horrendous conditions with a short, choppy sea. It's an interesting idea, but not something that would be fair to this yacht or any other design.

@MrSedonaguy 4 ай бұрын

Are the hulls carbon or foam core. Carbon is too loud in heavy seas...

@johnqdoe 3 ай бұрын

The Wynns have reported/displayed very low to silent water noise and zero flex creaking from solid carbon reinforced construction (OC) on their channel in recent videos. @gonewiththewynns

@53blfoster 19 күн бұрын

How much does it cost?

@yachtingworld 15 күн бұрын

Pricing is given at the end of the video with the specs as always

@53blfoster 14 күн бұрын

@@yachtingworld Thanks!

@skydentalwhittier258 5 ай бұрын

Is it noisy inside? Do you think all carbon boats are more noisy than fiberglass ones? Thank you.

@johnqdoe 3 ай бұрын

The Wynns have reported/displayed very low to silent water noise and zero flex creaking from solid carbon reinforced construction on their channel in recent videos. @gonewiththewynns

@1corinthians15.1-4kjv 5 ай бұрын

I don't get it. Prized above Windelo 54, a much bigger performance catamaran with a lot of good innovation, and by the way the only uncompromised helm position, that I know of. Actually, prized above the brand new Neel 52, which offers so much accommodation! Don't tell me, that you pay for the full carbon fiber hull, because it isn't! The two smallest HH catamarans are exactly not full carbon hull, but most likely around 30 percent carbon fiber. Beautiful boat though, but so is Windelo 54 and so many other catamarans, but they offer all more accommodation for the money.

@rouslant 5 ай бұрын

Nice design, nice interior, nice features, but I wouldn't like to spend a couple weeks on it crossing an ocean. Heavier displacements are more my taste, this one would make me sick all the way.

@bisa34 5 ай бұрын

Nice review ! Sleek & beautiful performance catamaran but i do not think she is faster, more confortable and luxurious or even offers more space than an outremer 52 ? Same price though!

@TheSailingFamily 5 ай бұрын

Actually a fiberglass and polyester Outremer 52 is $400,000 more expensive than this Carbon & Epoxy boat. Go figure.

@CodeMonkeyUnicorns 5 ай бұрын

Price to size is non linear. I agree though Id take this over an outremeer as well

@R.E.HILL_ 5 ай бұрын

@6:02 Toby doesn't know how hinges or gate frames work...

@RusellFleming 5 ай бұрын

Is there an old man filter on?😅

@stoerenungeheuer543 5 ай бұрын

will it float upside down?

@sethkutch 3 ай бұрын

💥 Promo*SM

@briansparks4926 5 ай бұрын

Not a fan of cats to be honest. I perfer trimarans, then monohulls, and lastly cats. Nice performance though.

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

The correct order is tri, cat, mono ;)

@AHmad-pm4pb 2 ай бұрын

Bedroom small. 🙁

@p.a.ch.3861 5 ай бұрын

Over price

@ShellyMartz 5 ай бұрын

Apparently 40 or so other couples beg to differ. They're selling a ton of these.

@johnqdoe 3 ай бұрын

So are milk and eggs.

@jeffcrozier3777 5 ай бұрын

Very sexy boat, but that shitty folding helm seat is a deal breaker

@Funtari01 5 ай бұрын

1.55m USD without VAT for a 44 footer is just pointless. What about testing boats that not only the superrich could afford? Since Covid boat builders just got insane.

@Mahalo_83 5 ай бұрын

You clearly have no aspirations or dreams

@AdeboFunkyVoodoo 5 ай бұрын

What new build 'yacht' can anyone not super rich afford? The 800k one? That sound affordable for a high school teacher? How about the 700 or 600k one? You kind of need to be rich to spend even 600k on a toy for the weekend.

@AORD72 5 ай бұрын

By affordable do you mean a 4 meter sailing dinghy?

@traceysmallwood7489 5 ай бұрын

Being in Australia, the us currency is a killer. So about to order Cure Marine 55. Made in Queensland

@guidorovarobrizzi5980 5 ай бұрын

I agree. They boost price by 70%

@StewartGartland 5 ай бұрын

To be honest, at 110 and 15 knots, 8 to 10 is not that fast?? No dinghy on the back and about as light as she will ever be.....

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

It's not bad for the hull length.

@sailinghopes3943 2 ай бұрын

@@LoanwordEggcornbut not great. I had a 33’ MaineCat and we’d often sail in the mid/upper teens

@LoanwordEggcorn 2 ай бұрын

@@sailinghopes3943 Maincats are a lighter design (by virtue of having less stuff in general), which surely helps. So kind of apples and oranges.

@FighterFred 5 ай бұрын

Not a lot of comfort for 1.5M. A nice toy for rich millennials.

@ShellyMartz 5 ай бұрын

Have you seen the competition? This is one of the nicest interiors you can buy. Watch the Wynns videos. Pretty sick.

@johnqdoe 3 ай бұрын

@@ShellyMartzAgree. Not exactly a luxury comfort category either. OC with less carbon $800K.

@cesc1495 5 ай бұрын

Catamarans just look so damn ugly. Two hulls with a big house plonked on

@gerritgovaerts8443 4 ай бұрын

more than 2 ton overweight and half a million overpriced . No thanks

@CG-99 5 ай бұрын

What an ugly way to waste €1.5m!! In a world over endowed with beautiful boats why would anybody buy this ugly dump truck?

@alexthetic 4 ай бұрын

Horrible yacht.