Saints: Signs of God or Nice People?

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Shameless Popery Podcast

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How are the Saints a "proof" of Christianity? Can't you be good without God? You might be surprised to learn what Jesus has to say on this subject... or what it would mean for us to take His teaching seriously.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:09 - Overview
1:03 - Ratzinger Report
4:55 - The Saints Argument
8:04 - Isn't Religion Unnecessary for Morality
23:51 - The Luminous trail of the saints
24:48 - Mother Teresa
37:18 - St. Maximilian Kolbe
43:00 - What about bad Christians
49:48 - How should Christians respond

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@KEP1983
@KEP1983 8 ай бұрын
I think it's interesting that you refer to the saints as superhumans. That's a fun characterization. Starting from that perspective, it's interesting that society has gotten bored with Marvel's superhumans after about 15 years, but the world is still greatly impacted by God's superhumans after 2000 years. ❤
@AllanKoayTC
@AllanKoayTC 8 ай бұрын
someone should start making movies about the Super Saints, and call it the CCU - Catholic Cinematic Universe.
@georgefuentes4112
@georgefuentes4112 8 ай бұрын
Beautifully put! Super heroes are just that, beyond what a human can accomplish. Saints (aka superhumans) are unique humans magnified through Christ and possible to do with a means of accomplishing it.
@mikekayanderson408
@mikekayanderson408 8 ай бұрын
A saint is any true believer in JesusChrist not a superhuman !, the apostles addressed those believers in the various churches to which they wrote as saints. They were not super humans just ordinary believers. @@georgefuentes4112
@johannaprice4880
@johannaprice4880 8 ай бұрын
We all made to be saints.
@yemeo4566
@yemeo4566 8 ай бұрын
This is beautiful! Thank you for taking the time to put this episode, and the series on proving the existence of God together. As a new convert to Catholic Christianity earlier this year, the study of the saints was a major part of what drew me to the faith.
@TheFarmerTed
@TheFarmerTed 8 ай бұрын
Joe, not gonna lie, your videos are one of the best parts of my week. Absolutely LOVE the long form content. Keep it up!
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
I wanna see a video on Fatima or Guadalupe’s Tilma. Let’s make it happen guys!
@nickw9766
@nickw9766 8 ай бұрын
Many a catholic who were never really evangelized don’t know that the saints are proof of the existence of God unfortunately. Rapinoe on the hand said that her injury in her last game is ‘proof’ that God doesn’t exist
@WIPSaint
@WIPSaint 7 ай бұрын
This might be the best thing I've heard in quite some time. It shifted my mindset. I typically have been overly focused on reasons and proofs for what I believe. I was missing this.
@brendansheehan6180
@brendansheehan6180 8 ай бұрын
Love this show! This dropped the very moment I was about to start exercising. Providence! Happy Thursday yall
@KEP1983
@KEP1983 8 ай бұрын
Related to this topic: my wife loves St Theresa of Calcutta. She's her favorite saint. So we went a few months ago to go see a small indie movie about her called "Mother Theresa and Me." I think the writer/director was Indian and likely not Catholic (from what I know), but the movie was still reverential to her/Catholicism and was overall beautiful. I recommend it 👍
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
He should do a video on Fatima, or the Shroud of Turin, or Guadalupe. Great Miracles. Let’s make it happen guys!
@KEP1983
@KEP1983 8 ай бұрын
@@kyrptonite1825 haha yeah, although this wasn't just a little KZfaq video, this was a full feature film. It was really well produced as well.
@andrewpearson1903
@andrewpearson1903 8 ай бұрын
I looked through the Wikipedia page for the Golden Rule to see if anyone anticipated Jesus's exact version of it, and I don't think anyone did. The closest is Moses, who told the Israelites to love their neighbors as themselves, and it looks like the Jewish tradition interpreted him negatively -- the echo comes back through Tobit and Hillel as, "Do to no one what you yourself dislike." Other pre-Christian Golden Rules are also framed negatively, as a live-and-let-live principle. Jesus is the first to make it a positive command: "Do for others what you would have them do for you" -- a *much* taller order.
@antpassalacqua
@antpassalacqua 8 ай бұрын
i agree with this and have said as much elsewhere it’s clear how revelation illuminated what God had already written in man’s heart
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
Have any more info on this? I heard the Golden Rule is similar to something called the “silver rule” or something in rabbinic Judaism.
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
Nvm… the silver rule was a negative haha
@papuciowy1465
@papuciowy1465 8 ай бұрын
Thank You for this great podcast.
@Nuns_Fret_Not
@Nuns_Fret_Not 6 ай бұрын
I really love this video. Thank you
@thehitomiboy7379
@thehitomiboy7379 8 ай бұрын
Whole video shoulda been on Kolbe lol. A great example no one can contend with.
@Forester-
@Forester- 8 ай бұрын
My confirmation saint. When I first heard his story I was so struck by it I knew he was my saint.
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 8 ай бұрын
Just because the Liberals have attacked one of our great Saints, St. Mother Teresa, doesn't mean that we should lower her standing vs. St. Maximilian Kolbe. Both of these great Saints have given all of us something to strive for, and how we too, can live out the Christian message!
@thehitomiboy7379
@thehitomiboy7379 8 ай бұрын
@rosiegirl2485 nah. Its the catholics who served with and under her who shared horror stories of abuse and forced conversions. Some we so scandalized by her they converted to other religions, not wanting to be associated with her.
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 8 ай бұрын
@@thehitomiboy7379 Go away...
@essafats5728
@essafats5728 8 ай бұрын
@@thehitomiboy7379 source please, i would like to read up and research. Mystery of our good God: why her congregation of nuns still exists today continuing her type of ministry.
@juliansaviano8848
@juliansaviano8848 7 ай бұрын
Great clip!
@dynamic9016
@dynamic9016 8 ай бұрын
Thanks much for this video.
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
Sorry for the spam, but you should do videos defending Guadalupe’s Miraculous Tilma, Fatima’s Sun Miracle (maybe even some of the Fatima prophecies), and other Catholic Miracles!
@susand3668
@susand3668 8 ай бұрын
My very-Protestant mother and father did respect the work of the patient monks who toiled over hand-copying books -- who recognized the importance of Greek philosophy, and collected every scrap of Roman literature, and gave all they had to preserve our intellectual history. (They also seem to have learned how to make glasses in the 12th century in order to save their eyesight!)
@mattcrisanti1121
@mattcrisanti1121 17 күн бұрын
Love your channel. So much I’m going back to older ones I hadn’t seen. Early in this one, when you referred to the knowledge of right and wrong being written on the human heart, is that a part of natural law (I understand it to be)?
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
Arguments for God: - Fine Tuning Argument (Trent Horn has a video defending this as well as defending this in “Answering Atheism”. - Argument from Miracles (Ex: Resurrection, Fatima, Lourdes, Guadalupe, Zeitoun, Shroud of Turin, Incorruptibles, Eucharistic Miracles, Jewish Survival, Catholic Church’s Survival, etc.) - Argument from Necessity (why is there something instead of nothing? Trent Horn has great resources on this as well) - Cosmological Argument + Kalam Cosmological Argument (Trent Horn has good resources on the Kalam argument, including a long video defending it, William Lane Craig is it’s main defender, I know Jimmy Akin doesn’t like it, but he likes the Cosmological Argument instead, which is a great one) - Pure Actuality Arguments - Moral Argument (CS Lewis and Trent Horn both do good jobs defending Moral Values existing) (Notice I’m a big Trent Horn fan) - Beauty Argument by Joe Heshmyer (follows Gradation Way, kinda)
@AllanKoayTC
@AllanKoayTC 8 ай бұрын
what's Equipe d'Artistes? just curious.
@RandomThoughts77777
@RandomThoughts77777 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanations! The new atheists sitting on their rich backsides looking after number one and daring to criticise the angelic Mother Teresa…
@DeannaWillistonOFS
@DeannaWillistonOFS 7 ай бұрын
You should make a clip of the very beginning (before the syllogism).
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
Psalms 119:10-12 KJV With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments. 11. Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. 12. Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes...
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@po18guy “1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” (John 17:1-4, KJV)
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@po18guy τη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια της πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το δωρον ουκ εξ εργων ινα μη τις καυχησηται
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@po18guy you must be a muslim, because you believe in mans traditions and not Gods
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 3 ай бұрын
0:31 0:41 even the angels rebelled. And they we're created long before us humans.
@haydongonzalez-dyer2727
@haydongonzalez-dyer2727 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@johannaprice4880
@johannaprice4880 8 ай бұрын
All Catholics know that definitely Mother Theresa is a Saint. She is most loved by God. Bess her soul.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 ай бұрын
Teresa
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
Psalms 118:8-9 KJV ...It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. 9. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes...
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
Psalms 1 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4. The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6. For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish...
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@@po18guy הבטחים על־חילם וברב עשׁרם יתהללו׃ אח לא־פדה יפדה אישׁ לא־יתן לאלהים כפרו׃
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@@po18guy if you do not believe in the finished work of Christ then you are going to take the full brunt of the law in the second death because you make a mockery of what God has done for you.
@this_is_arge
@this_is_arge 8 ай бұрын
I'd like like to hear about the criticism that's done against her addressed, besides, I have a roommate who is from India and it seems mother Theresa is not loved there, I think she mentioned she forced people to convert, which I don't believe, but I'd like to hear a good those comments objectively addressed
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR 8 ай бұрын
Forcing people to convert does absolutely nothing. God sees the matters of the heart, if it's not an honest conversion then you're wasting water and disrespecting the sacrament. That alone discredits the claim. No serious Catholic missionary would consider that approach.
@this_is_arge
@this_is_arge 8 ай бұрын
@@alonsoACR which is why I don't believe it too, I think it's way too stupid if you really believe in God to do something like that, but I am really curious as to why my Indian roommate says Mother Theresa is not loved there. I want to hear the arguments against her to be treated objectively.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR 8 ай бұрын
@@this_is_arge Agreed, every position should be given a fair chance. Maybe you can tell your roommate that you can't just "join" the Catholic Church in a day. Muslims just say one sentence in front of two witnesses, Hindus don't do anything, some Protestants give you same-day baptism, but we're Catholic. It takes months, including lots of classes, then after you're proven knowledgeable and willing, a baptism with a priest and then after that a visit to the Bishop to get a Confirmation. I know cradle Catholics who weren't given Confirmation, because they said they were feeling a bit of pressure from their parents. That is enough to postpone the event. You can't just get sick, visit a hospital, and leave a Catholic Catechumen.
@jendoe9436
@jendoe9436 8 ай бұрын
From what I have generally gathered, a lot of negativity about Mother Theresa came after she was already gone and the main Church investigations were concluded. Despite what some people may think, the Church does and has postponed or even dropped cases for sainthood if there’s a lot of issues surrounding a person. As an example, there was a priest (can’t think of his name right now) whose cause for canonization has been paused for a long while because of alleged connections to the “Gunpowder Plot” during England’s Catholic persecution. That’s the one where Guy Fawkes, a Catholic, planned to blow up the English Parliament after years of persecution by English authorities and he got caught before the plot took effect. Some say the mentioned priest and others had NOTHING at all to do with the plot, others paint all Catholics as itching to blow up Parliament. Obviously the plot didn’t work and given the tangled history of the whole thing, quite a few good Catholics who died in the ensuring years have been denied case openings because of unreliable and/or suspicious accounts of what happened. A mess all around as one can see and one that the Church does have to tread with caution on given how she defines Saints and what support is needed for their cause (miracles, holy life, etc). If Mother Theresa was this horrible person as current people claim, then either the Church was incompetent in the investigation and later miracle documentation or there’s an effort to mar her reputation. Given the statements and evidence at the time, I doubt the former but can concede there may have been cultural differences and unclear events that may have been negatively perceived by onlookers. To the extent that paints Mother Theresa and the other Sisters as monsters, though, seems more like a deliberate attack on people who cannot defend themselves. @alonso19989 is also right that Catholic conversions normally take a lot of time, and forced conversions are disallowed by the Church since they violate a person’s free will. Perhaps as the people lay dying during their last days on earth, Mother Theresa and the Sisters spoke of God, Jesus, church teachings, etc and the patients thought they would “take a chance” on the Catholic view of death and converted in their last moments. I remember secular people decrying Mother Theresa and the Sisters as ‘terrible’ because they wouldn’t give women birth control, but… that’s kind of a Catholic thing to not allow BC for a variety of theological reasons, and honestly recent studies heavy point to there being health reasons why BC should be a carefully monitored and prescribed thing. So maybe the “forced conversions” were claimed by family, friends, or opportunists who didn’t want others to know the person wanted to genuinely convert for personal, family, political, or social reasons. India does have a strong caste system which greatly shapes and affects how people interact with each other. Part of the caste idea is that one who is born in a “lower level” must have done something bad to merit such station in their life so they “deserve” whatever happens to them. Christian theology, however, endorses innate human dignity for ALL people, especially the poor and those who cannot fend for themselves. Perhaps those in certain positions were worried that people would start demanding better treatment for the less well to do of society, so they painted Mother Theresa and the Sisters of Charity as this malicious, foreign group who did not actually care about the poor and had ulterior motives for what they did. Not saying abuse can never happen, as history shows that where humans exist, there’s instances of sin and people not living up to Christian virtues, but once again the “widespread” claims seem more of an opportunistic attack on Mother Theresa’s credibility and trying to downplay or demonize the work done by the Sisters.
@eucharistenjoyer
@eucharistenjoyer 6 ай бұрын
After the accelerated westernization of India (even more with the internet) and the smear campaign spearheaded by Hitchens I imagine she may be conflating what younger indians think (or what the perceived idea she gets from the media, be it MSM or Tiktok) with what actual Indians from all age brackets actually think. There's an reddit post explaining all the lies and misrepresentations Hitchens did, and Joe summs it up perfectly: the guy is complaining about lack of medication and perfect sanitary conditions when even hospitals in Kolkata lacked. If I find it I'll edit this post and you can show it to your roomate.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 ай бұрын
I rode my bicycle across India Got to pray at St Teresa of Calcutta Tomb
@lcronovt
@lcronovt 8 ай бұрын
Man, do you have all this arguments as a book?
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
Joe should definitely write a book! And make a video about Fatima’s sun miracle!
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
You should do videos defending Catholic Miracles. I think they are great evidences of the faith, but unlike Miracles like the Resurrection, they lack people trying to defend them, and so they are often left almost defenseless against atheist attacks. It would be nice for a mainstream Catholic KZfaqr to defend them, as I think it’s a notable joke in our apologetics. Maybe defend Guadalupe’s Miraculous Tilma, or the Fatima Miracle of the Sun, Incorruptibles, Our Lady of Lourdes and the Healings, the Eucharistic Miracles, or even Our Lady of Zeitoun’s apparitions. These would be great in apologetics.
@jendoe9436
@jendoe9436 8 ай бұрын
While Catholic miracles are awesome, and are some of my favorite things to research and talk about, this may be an area that requires some navigation. The big thing I can think of is making sure the person is receptive to the idea of miracles in the first place. For example, there’s some people who set up criteria of what a miracle is and put the Catholic on the defensive to explain it. Well, the Catholic can do the best they can, provide all the scientific evidence, witness statements, physical evidence, etc, yet the person will then claim “miracles can’t exist because they defy X laws.” At that point, they can never be convinced of miracles because they deny miracles can ever exist because of X, Y, Z laws and ‘science’, even though a miracle is partially defined as an event happening DESPITE the X, Y, Z laws. Kind of like how Matt Dillahunty will constantly demand “evidence” for theistic claim, and then change the criteria of what evidence is “credible” or even narrow it further to “actual evidence” and then claim “there’s no *evidence* of this, therefor I’m not convinced so this theistic point is dumb/unfounded.” If you get past the “miracles can happen” hurdle, it then becomes working with what’s available and presenting it in a way that can convince the other party. This can be tough for Catholic miracles like Fatima, apparitions, etc because some fundamentalists think EVERYTHING Catholic related is actually demonic, especially Marian related miracles. Or that the Church “covers up” or “manipulates” things. There’s also those open to supernatural things, but chalk things up to aliens. Hence Jimmy Akin’s Mysterious World phrase “It’s always aliens” or “It’s always demons”, though apparently demon-aliens have a following as well 😂😅 Not saying one can’t reasonably support and explain miracles in a way that points to the Church as being true, but all it takes is some person to knit-pick one relatively minor or inconsequential thing and *poof* the miracle is “disproven” to the public. Like, think of the trove of scientific data from Eucharistic miracles (blood samples, witness statements, some repeatable miracles, etc), the water from Lourdes healing people (along with other similar places, including oil from relics and saints), and even Fatima had self-acclaimed skeptics who supported the Dancing Sun. All this, and people either plug their ears to it, find one or two small things to over blow and discredit the whole miracle for, or bend themselves backwards into knots to explain it all away as “natural” causes. In the end, miracles are a nice ornament to bolster Catholic claims, but they shouldn’t be the crutch or main focus when trying to convince others. If we can’t get them to believe the Church professes truth, or at least get people to stop calling the Church “satanic” and all that, then it’s like the Pharisees claiming Jesus worked with Beelzebub to cast out demons. As an aside, I actually have seen quite a number of apologists and others talking about miracles and the like. Even some great updates on things like the Shroud from what I’ve gathered. But, that’s also by people who really study the miracle and have made it part of their mission to spread the truth and support for it. For some apologists, miracles are not their focus and their talents are geared toward another aspect of the faith. In fact, an apologist who isn’t aware of the ins and outs of a miracle can say something misleading or incorrect about the miracle, ruining the truth and turning people away instead of toward truth.
@stallelio376
@stallelio376 2 ай бұрын
@@jendoe9436can you please provide the names of the apologetics who talk about miracles? I’m intrigued as to how they would explain it to Protestants who claim it’s all demonic etc…
@jendoe9436
@jendoe9436 2 ай бұрын
@@stallelio376 Not sure if he uses it in his apologetics work that much, but Jimmy Akin has numerous videos on his ‘JA’s Mysterious World” podcast that involve miracles. He’a gone over Marian apparitions like Our Lady of Akita and Our Lady of Egypt (starts with a Z but the exact name escapes me right now), general miracles, Eucharistic miracles, and other seemingly miraculous things like prophecies. Given the format of the show he presents what happened, follows up of anything has changed since the initial occurrence, and then evaluates the claim based on reason and faith. In the Egypt apparition, he goes over why things like human involvement, light tricks, mass hysteria, etc don’t work as natural responses and that since Mary wanted everyone to repent and follow Jesus that it couldn’t be demonic. That’s one example that I think helps form a basis for anyone who wants to use miracles in their apologetic discussions. Trent Horn has sometimes cited Fatima and the Miracle of the Sun has prove that miraculous things can happen, and point out how dissenters still complain about ‘lack of evidence’ even though non-believers witnessed and attested to the truth of the events. I know other Catholic Answers people have talked about certain miracles sometimes, but not that often cause as I mentioned previously, it’s not something they employ that much.
@stallelio376
@stallelio376 2 ай бұрын
@@jendoe9436 thank you! I’ll go check them out
@revelation20232
@revelation20232 5 ай бұрын
Just look at the Bible. For that ancient collection of writings from a small tribe in the Middle East to become the most influential book in history and to create the most significant cultural movement throughout the world that has impacted virtually every people is proof of Divine Providence or it's the wildest coincidence ever.
@pixelprincess9
@pixelprincess9 8 ай бұрын
I watch this video with skepticism having just watch Trent Horn’s video against Islam - specifically Muslim arguments for the beauty of the Qur’an.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR 8 ай бұрын
The argument here is for the existence of beauty _itself._ Technically, last video's argument. A book, true or false, can be beautiful. The Islamic argument is that the beauty of the book itself proves their claim, and it doesn't.
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 3 ай бұрын
She admitted she lost her faith and she did not allow any medication for the poor who suffered, because her mind set was it was christ like in their suffering.
@HumanDignity10
@HumanDignity10 8 ай бұрын
OK, now I feel dumb for complaining about traffic last night 😊.
@rolandovelasquez135
@rolandovelasquez135 8 ай бұрын
Regarding "saints". In the New Testament "saints" are believers in Jesus Christ. All genuine believers in Jesus Christ. The Roman Catholic concept of "Saints" is completely and totally foreign to the Bible. Here are some simple examples: Corinthians‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭ To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours... ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:11‭-‬12‬ ‭ And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ.. ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:21‭-‬22‬ ‭ Greet every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren who are with me greet you. All the saints greet you, especially those of Caesar’s household. Notice that in God's Word saints are just normal christians, i.e., believers in Christ Jesus. God and His Word is so simple. Praise Him forevermore. And His Son.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 8 ай бұрын
You didn't watch the video so I'm not reading your comment. If you are too hung up on anti Catholicism to even hear an argument long enough to know what it is, you definitely don't have any worthwhile counter point
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 8 ай бұрын
There's no room for the true definition of saints, in your belief. (souls who are purified (state of grace) in heaven are called saints). People still on earth are not called saints. They are not mere men and women. They contributed to the Christianization of Europe and to the birth of the Western society. There are thousands of saints. Saints like: St. Ignatius Loyola, who founded the Jesuits with the aim of proclaiming the Gospel in charity and truth, placing an emphasis on interior renewal. They brought the evangelic message to the whole world with their missionary activities..
@rolandovelasquez135
@rolandovelasquez135 8 ай бұрын
​@@marvalice3455You're right. I'm watching it now.
@BeauBeckwith
@BeauBeckwith 8 ай бұрын
Brother, as a former protestant who majored in Bible at an evangelical college, your scriptural references are totally legit. HOWEVER... just because a word is used one way in scripture does not negate another, more technical, use of the same word. The Catholic Church doesn't deny your usage. It simply has another usage to draw distinctions. Saint means, essentially, Holy. When we say Saint Paul, we mean. Holy Paul. This is why you sometimes hear angels referred to as saints. Holy Gabriel, etc etc. So, while all of those who are set apart by God are in one sense saints, we can also say that those who have lived heroic lives of faith and received the crown of glory are Saints in another, more specific sense. I hope that's helpful.
@BeauBeckwith
@BeauBeckwith 8 ай бұрын
I guess what I mean to say is we can recognize our disagreements without getting hung up on word usage. It's fine to discuss our differences, but let's not waste time with something on which we DON'T actually disagree.
@user-sd8vy1yb4r
@user-sd8vy1yb4r 7 ай бұрын
hershmeyer thinks that man has a hand in salvation, i think...
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 ай бұрын
Gods grace first Men co operate with God
@perhael
@perhael 8 ай бұрын
Would like to share this with my atheist friend who is Indian. Unfortunately, Indians don’t see Mother Teresa as a holy person, but one who has done many harms. This video would just prove that God doesn’t exist for him. On a different note, my parents have met Mother Teresa.
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 8 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of misinformation, conspiracy theories, and lies told about Mother Teresa. But Catholic sites do a good job defending her.
@user-sd8vy1yb4r
@user-sd8vy1yb4r 7 ай бұрын
either you have faith in God, or you do not. all Christians are saints, but they have no bearing on the existence of God.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 8 ай бұрын
Dear atheists. Never say "I can be good with God" because by doing so, you ad hominems not only valid, but entirely reasonable. It's just not smart to do.
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Popery, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
@Kefa...
@Kefa... 8 ай бұрын
She bowed with budhists to budha statues? Publishers have jpii , mother t, and diary kowalska to sell? She gives me the willies.
@essafats5728
@essafats5728 7 ай бұрын
stop playing with yourself then you won't have the willies
@mikekayanderson408
@mikekayanderson408 8 ай бұрын
All born again believers are saints! Stop this catholic nonsense of hand picking certain people - who are always Catholics of course - and in your words are super humans and calling them saints. The Apostles addressed the various congregations they wrote to in the NewTestament as saints. You drone on and on about Mother Teresa and Kolbe and their “works” of mercy and kindness etc. what actually counts in the final analysis is were they born again through a spiritual work ofGod? Were they truly saved by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE ? You talk of the Eucharist, you talk of imitating Jesus, you talk of them being saved by baptism- the usual catholic explanations - none of which save anyone! If they were simply Catholics and depending on the false teaching of the catholic church to get to heaven then they may both have woken up in the wrong place after death. No matter how nice and helpful and dedicated they may have both been.
@essafats5728
@essafats5728 7 ай бұрын
nah, you and your faith tradition is too shallow, ignorant, and illogical to understand any "catholic" teaching. You gotta await for the Holy Spirit to school you further.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 ай бұрын
U attend a church that is 20yrs old and has skipped 2000yrs of Christianity. How very sad
@eucharistenjoyer
@eucharistenjoyer 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad Joe didn't bring the opposite of saints as examples of false churches produce, we have them here in the comments.
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
Saints are those who have entered God's rest by believing what he has done on their behalf. But the Roman Catholic Church makes a mockery of Christ Finished work on the Cross. Problem is you believe in another Jesus and another Gospel and are taking people that listen to you to the lake with you. And now you know how your condemnation will be greater for all those you bring down with you will be screaming at you eternally, " you brought us here for not speaking the truth of God.
@MartinaStC
@MartinaStC 8 ай бұрын
May God bless you, enlighten your soul with the truth and fill your speech with love instead.
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 8 ай бұрын
Saints made Christianity alive and real. They are men and women with spiritual strength and faith, who sacrificed their existence, giving up everything else, sacrificed themselves to God’s will and for the sake of their brothers..
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@@MartinaStC “24. ¶ Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26. Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.” (Luke 13:24-28, KJV)
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 8 ай бұрын
@@joekey8464 “10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15. For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.” (Matthew 13:10-15, KJV)
@gc3563
@gc3563 8 ай бұрын
AVE MARIA, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Lesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae.
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