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4 жыл бұрын

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@MrFNP90
@MrFNP90 4 жыл бұрын
If ever the was a 'grunt' capital ship, the Salamis was it. It's actually lowkey one of my favorite ship designs in Gundam. It's just so...realistic.
@jadyndenys7736
@jadyndenys7736 Жыл бұрын
If the salamis is the gm, the general revil is the rx 0
@suhanhwang9988
@suhanhwang9988 4 жыл бұрын
"Good things will come to you if you live long enough." - Akihiro Altland, Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
A good refit will come if you get destroyed enough, salamis class.
@mikazukiaugus2571
@mikazukiaugus2571 4 жыл бұрын
I miss space guts..thanks for reminding me..
@jaypeadieL611
@jaypeadieL611 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best last words of a chad side character gundam pilot
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 4 жыл бұрын
Feds: good thing we updated all out ships Zeon: *brings out MS* Feds: O come on!
@taliawtf6944
@taliawtf6944 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's the anime version of the start of the second world war, Britain literally thought their battle ships could fend of fighters and bombers no issue. The Japanese showed them that just planes alone could kill a fully functional battleship on their own. The same way that Zeon showed the feddies that MS alone could kill a battleship thus changing how war was fought. Art imitating real life, makes it more real I think. :P
@andrewac1096
@andrewac1096 3 жыл бұрын
@@taliawtf6944 Oh
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@taliawtf6944 That is absolutely deliberate, since Tomino lived through World War 2.
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 2 жыл бұрын
@@taliawtf6944 The British actually didn't think that. They were quite cautious indeed.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept Жыл бұрын
@@SudrianTales actually, it went further than that. The problem was that the British Asian Squadron/Fleet was constantly on the back foot after numerous ships were reassigned to the Atlantic. Due to various problems, the escorts that were supposed to be assigned to Force Z weren't available, and they didn't have aircraft with the necessary range...
@TheHiddenBoss
@TheHiddenBoss 4 жыл бұрын
For the longest time, I actually thought the ships were named after a lunch meat. Wasn’t sure why I thought that but Japan did had a knack for naming things after food and it did sorta made sense at the time when these ships were practically dead meat whenever a Zaku comes flying by.
@Samuraiedge2
@Samuraiedge2 4 жыл бұрын
Watched DBZ? Thats likely why considering most of their characters are named after food.
@HamanKarn567
@HamanKarn567 4 жыл бұрын
I love the ships in Gundam. I mean Mobile Suits are the main thing of course but I always thought the ships were just as cool to me at least.
@ironteacup2569
@ironteacup2569 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I like them too
@seprithlicastia463
@seprithlicastia463 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have always loved Zeon's entire line of ships; the perfect balance between futuristic and practicality.
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 4 жыл бұрын
@@seprithlicastia463 How is it practical to have main guns that take a few minutes to be ready to fire?
@amphetanine8573
@amphetanine8573 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also just love how detailed they're look in 0083 or origin
@revis0nedrelived830
@revis0nedrelived830 4 жыл бұрын
Baikal to Volga ships are imo best designs.
@seprithlicastia463
@seprithlicastia463 4 жыл бұрын
I actually did not know the Federation had only recently upgraded thier entire fleet just before the One Year War. That actually does explain why they were so far behind Zeon in adopting new strategies for using their ships and mobile suits. The Papua-class, for example, has no real Federation comparison besides White Base during the war.
@davidficca8963
@davidficca8963 4 жыл бұрын
Columbus-Class was the feddie counterpart to the Papua-Class
@danielchew8739
@danielchew8739 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair the Papau-class is mainly a resupply ship, thus it is easy to convert those to be MS carrier, as it has the internal volume to do so.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the clop-class was actually inferior to the salamis Kai. Far less firepower and exposed hangar.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
Plus the simple fact the feds were lax and arrogant.
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeanLucCaptain It might be cheaper and more maneuverable. With better particle cannons and beam cannons, armor cannot keep up which is why making it more compact might be preferable for its mainline ships. In joint operation, you can have really big carriers to carry the MS and have the smaller mainline ships to conduct skirmish and defense. It kinda reflect real world too which is why you don't see battleship-size ship guarding carriers, even though making it bigger will make it able to carry more weapons.
@kakarot197
@kakarot197 4 жыл бұрын
I bet nobody saw this coming. Edit on the length of the Salamis: One big inconsistent thing is the length of the various Salamis versions (and even that of the same version), so take these with a grain of salt. Not even the Gundam universe itself can decide on the length of these things.
@D.Snom.
@D.Snom. 4 жыл бұрын
Unexpected? Yes But very much appreciated. Thanks for the new upload and I hope you’re having an awesome day!!
@paakdisayaniyom
@paakdisayaniyom 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kakarot, would you'll do Magellan and Columbus next? Or some Zeon​ ships like Musai, Chivvay or Gwazine?
@seprithlicastia463
@seprithlicastia463 4 жыл бұрын
A very welcome surprise! If you are opening up more to things besides mobile suits, I am now very, very excited! Keep up the work. Love these videos!
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 4 жыл бұрын
I did. I look forward to more Gundam Ship videos.
@breembo
@breembo 4 жыл бұрын
I think I asked you to do this in one of the comments, the ships and vehicles of gundam which i find just as cool as the mobile suits. So thank you so much!!!
@cantorofleng7837
@cantorofleng7837 4 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of why I feel Bianca Carlyle is such an underrated character. She survived balls, GM's and salamises throughout the war until promotion to the guncannon aqua. just....how?
@orionparish9858
@orionparish9858 Жыл бұрын
THE most powerful weapon in the entire multiverse of course. Plot armor.
@davidvasquez08
@davidvasquez08 2 ай бұрын
@@orionparish9858she had massive balls to pull through
@zqfmgb4335
@zqfmgb4335 4 жыл бұрын
GMs and Balls : we're persecuted by the plot ! Salamis : Hold my beer. 0083 Salamis : explodes before it can say anything
@jframe9715
@jframe9715 4 жыл бұрын
Put an important hero in a Salamis and see that Salamis kill mobile suit left, right, front and center.
@Nehfarius
@Nehfarius 3 жыл бұрын
@@jframe9715 It sure worked for Bright Noah. That's why HE got all the COOL ships. :p
@DashsChannel
@DashsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
GM: Check your ace unit privilege, Gundam.
@leonardooliveira4627
@leonardooliveira4627 4 жыл бұрын
Love those Gihren Greed background music
@kakarot197
@kakarot197 4 жыл бұрын
Gihren's Greed is one of the most underrated Gundam game series.
@leonardooliveira4627
@leonardooliveira4627 4 жыл бұрын
Tem Ray Army too op. Pls nerf
@andrewac1096
@andrewac1096 3 жыл бұрын
Which ones?
@nabkill0134
@nabkill0134 3 жыл бұрын
@@kakarot197 if only they have english translation...
@Bkings7
@Bkings7 3 жыл бұрын
@@nabkill0134 they have a fan translation of axis v it's not perfect but playable I'm playing it right now
@tylerstocker6189
@tylerstocker6189 4 жыл бұрын
Now this is something I find particularly interesting. The actual fleet ships of the Gundam series are something that I feel don't get enough love from the community.
@a.p.studios8713
@a.p.studios8713 Жыл бұрын
You gotta give kudos to the salamis cruisers. They might be weak, but they’ve got *balls*
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious 3 жыл бұрын
Kakarot, I think there is a fourth explanation for MS coming out of Salamis-class ships--Basically, the war demanded increased production, so they pushed ships into service where the hull had already been laid down but the interior not finished. This worked well because they could simply leave the space for a "hangar" and at the same time save money on finishing a ship.
@kennywilliamson9922
@kennywilliamson9922 4 жыл бұрын
"if you don't give up, you will get there eventually." If only the poor Leo had gotten the same love as the Salamis class.
@andrehashimoto8056
@andrehashimoto8056 4 жыл бұрын
the Leo MS was somewhat decent spec wise, problem comes with Gundam treatment of "grunt class" MS, targets for ace custom super prototypes and limited production series MS.... take WW2 tank aces as example, they used the SAME generic tank models other, less fortunate tank crews had (Tiger I, Panther, Sherman, T34, IS/JS heavy tanks....), yet they had the skills and cunning to MAKE them work miracles or just bully the enemy AFVs. that's one good reason i take preference of Aldnoah Zero depiction of Mech combat than Gundam
@mechahub7524
@mechahub7524 4 жыл бұрын
The Salamis, such a humble workhorse ship. I never expected to be used that long in the universal century. These things were made before GMs and yet, they still kept fighting for a long time
@mr.flames360
@mr.flames360 4 жыл бұрын
We should get more post UC 100 lore. It's a part for the UC timeline that feels underrated
@MistakenMedia087
@MistakenMedia087 4 жыл бұрын
I think for most we just kind of gloss over a lot of post 100uc, sometimes I hope they just retcon it and continue from unicorn on a different path.
@MasterArchfiend
@MasterArchfiend 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Sunrise semms to think that means acknowledging G-Saviour as is, which isn't bad when you have context of the production, instead of, I don't know rewrite it and make it an animated movie so we can keep the good stuff the movie had.
@colinbielat8558
@colinbielat8558 4 жыл бұрын
We may being getting post UC 100 content. The tagline for the 40th anniversary was the next 100 which means we may get stuff set in the late uc, this also means we might finally get a crossbone anime. They might be thinking the whole zeon route might be getting played out so they might be seeking to try something different.
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 4 жыл бұрын
And we are getting a Hathaway's Flash movie so that may lead to further post-UC100 stuff in the future.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept Жыл бұрын
@@MasterArchfiend the thing is, it's essentially the most UC movie. Remember, Victory has the Federation basically a house of cards that would have been blown over in the interim rather readily. With the likely scenario that the Federation's response, in the end, is screw Newtypes more (because their _first_ option whenever they can't control something is, essentially screw it over and if they can't do that _destroy_ it), it is likely that the Newtypes, in general, modified a colony into a generational ship, grabbed as many newtypes and their families as they could, and just _leave_ the solar system.
@MrDarksol
@MrDarksol 4 жыл бұрын
Damn the Salamis had a pretty shit track record in the beginning, but later on it became a damn good ship. These history videos are very very well done especially since I'm starting to get back into gundam thanks to Cross Rays on my switch. It's really interesting to see the evolution of a ship that couldn't really do much in the beginning but then later on with a couple of revisions it starts becoming one of the best ships of the federation. Great job on the video Kararot!
@Jadefox32
@Jadefox32 4 жыл бұрын
If Zeon had not developed their fleet around the ability to carry and deploy mobile suits, not to mention the mobility and the ability for mobile suits to essentially carry around 12inch caliber weapons (360mm Rateken Bazookas anyone?) then in a straight fight the Salamis probably would of fared much better, and the industrial capabilities would of mattered far sooner. Instead the Federation had to spend about 6 years playing catch up and only really having generally mediocre mobile suits by September of 0079 (unless you count the R.G.M.-79[G] which appeared earlier but was never designed for Space Combat as the Federation had to focus on retaking territory initially captured by Zeon)
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Жыл бұрын
Could be fun to see a line centered on Mobile Armors, battleships, and so on, with Mobile Suits around the size of a Lego Minifigure or such.
@kyleabrezzi
@kyleabrezzi 4 жыл бұрын
Rip to all the poor souls lost in the one year war and 0083 aboard these ships
@GenJuhru
@GenJuhru 4 жыл бұрын
Anavel Gato: RIP
@xenthon8160
@xenthon8160 Жыл бұрын
F
@just-tsugo1644
@just-tsugo1644 4 жыл бұрын
U've given me a new found respect for the Salamis Class.
@Boosttackle
@Boosttackle 4 жыл бұрын
aged like wine, brother
@zerox8413
@zerox8413 4 жыл бұрын
4:20 should not confused with Cosmic Era Nelson class which was Battleship instead of Cruiser kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZqXpKl4ltXRo6s.html
@gerogyzurkov2259
@gerogyzurkov2259 4 жыл бұрын
Inspired by the real Nelson battleships
@adamk3017
@adamk3017 3 жыл бұрын
EFSF : Just Came out from a costly Refit Program Zeon : I'm Gonna Do What's Called a Pro Gamer Move
@JosephJoboLicayan
@JosephJoboLicayan 4 жыл бұрын
Was watching Victory and I was completely shocked to see a Salamis being used as a boat. Not only that, but it was also able to lift off and boost the Reinforce enough for it to get into orbit. Was the refit and upgrades tested on the Ra Cailum by Unicorn applied to the rest of the Salamis fleet? If so, the real question is, when?
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 4 жыл бұрын
That is what many assume. That the aging Salamis Class Fleet of the Federation Space Forces recieved an upgrade that included a Minovsky Flight System just like the Ra Calium in Unicorn. Kind of makes sense the only reason why they didn't have it earlier was that it as a bit expensive but over time it would become less so has new tech is introduced.
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... I had forgotten. While two Salamis Kai's helped get the Reinforce off Earth. Both of these ships were either destroyed or heavily damaged leaving the lead ship a Clop Class to make it to orbit alongside the Reinforce.
@huntermad5668
@huntermad5668 3 ай бұрын
It also get beam shield upgrade
@TheKusa5
@TheKusa5 4 жыл бұрын
Any image of the Federation fleet taking off from Jaburo to go to space is awesome to me. Always been more of a fan of the Magellan, but I have a heavy respect for the Salamis and honestly any Federation ship!
@martinklepper83
@martinklepper83 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering the ships of the Gundam verse. They are too often overlooked but have some pretty cool designs.
@GP01Zephy217
@GP01Zephy217 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that the Earth Federation had their Salamis-class retrofitted to include MS hangars. I always thought they had the Dogosse Giar-class or similar ships to do it. Thanks for the vid! I learned something new again
@teslashark
@teslashark Жыл бұрын
It's the Ko-Salamis hangar, though
@mercenarygundam1487
@mercenarygundam1487 4 жыл бұрын
Unexpected one but a pleasant one.
@spiritofthewolf15x
@spiritofthewolf15x 4 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the design of the Salamis, looks nice and functional.
@matipxc
@matipxc 4 жыл бұрын
I was reading the wiki page of it and the magellan-class. Seeing a documentary about the Bismark sparked some curiosity about warship classes
@bromero831
@bromero831 4 жыл бұрын
The tallgeese should be a good History episode. Also From zoids the Liger.
@danielchew8739
@danielchew8739 4 жыл бұрын
Never understand the point of using the Salamis in a broadside, consider the its cannon placement meant that its better off facing the enemy head on.
@Bobert2020
@Bobert2020 4 жыл бұрын
A broadside is more threatening, as the enemy knows you will shoot at them with everything you got, which can scare them.
@gerogyzurkov2259
@gerogyzurkov2259 4 жыл бұрын
Cause u can shoot all cannons at them
@danielchew8739
@danielchew8739 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bobert2020 But it physically can't "shot at them with everything you got". Only the guns at the bow and the stern can traverse to shoot broadside. Unless the guns on the port and starboard side can elevate 90 degrees, you are basically trading actual firepower for a weak excuse of a scare tactic.
@davidficca8963
@davidficca8963 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bobert2020 but the salamis had all its guns in the front so your point is invalid
@vali6717
@vali6717 4 жыл бұрын
There really isn’t any. Considering it’s weapon placement the only plausible reason I can think of is to supposedly protect one of the backup bridges from damage but that’s questionable because it presents a massive silhouette and effectively halves your firepower, which are two things that you don’t want to do in a naval engagement.
@aerozed95
@aerozed95 4 жыл бұрын
Ship development? Yes please! I always love to watch your development history videos! They really give a good rundown on the lore, whether known or obscure! Not going to lie, when I saw that thumbnail I thought, “Why is he talking about Space Battleship Yamato?”
@GPowtlaw2
@GPowtlaw2 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. What an awesome video, im am so hyped for more!!!
@dreadwing01
@dreadwing01 4 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy your channel keep up the awesome uploads. I like how you dig for info.
@redohealer2
@redohealer2 4 жыл бұрын
Now I really feel like watching Stardust Memory. And was that Zeta Gundam Galbaldy Beta?
@stangdrifter
@stangdrifter 4 жыл бұрын
Yes from the Zeta Gundam movie compilation
@redohealer2
@redohealer2 4 жыл бұрын
@@stangdrifter I'll have to look that up
@stangdrifter
@stangdrifter 4 жыл бұрын
@@redohealer2 it's Zeta Gundam A New Translation Heirs to the Stars
@Mattos77
@Mattos77 4 жыл бұрын
Always loved the new animation in the zeta a new translation movie trilogy. Definitely worth a check out
@ReRoute25
@ReRoute25 4 жыл бұрын
Is it awkward that if I see a ballute pack in a mobile suit, it’s sure is in Zeta Gundam era?
@cwong548
@cwong548 4 жыл бұрын
Love your development history, please make more :)
@fullfrontal2860
@fullfrontal2860 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I am looking forward to more videos on similar topics from the UC timeline.
@nightcat7741
@nightcat7741 4 жыл бұрын
This is a nice surprise Kakarot, more ship dev videos please!
@enahs5000
@enahs5000 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work on this as always kakarot 197
@MasterArchfiend
@MasterArchfiend 4 жыл бұрын
This was cool and I would definitely love to see you do more on ships and other military vehicles.
@natebetts9426
@natebetts9426 Жыл бұрын
I wish there were more simulation type games in the Gundam Universe. There's so much to them.
@johng9004
@johng9004 4 жыл бұрын
ahh thank god a new episode been waiting for a new episode
@odd-ov4gf
@odd-ov4gf 4 жыл бұрын
I perfer the Magellan
@saintdane7336
@saintdane7336 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to (hopefully) other non MS entry lists like fighters ships and so on. Think that’d be cool to go over space fighters, destroyers, or other non MS combat vehicles
@lauroichihara
@lauroichihara 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video!! waiting for the magellan class now
@battleship6049
@battleship6049 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yea! A lore video on one of the ships of Gundam. Always loved the ships of the UC like Magellan class and Birmingham and the others.
@chatterycasque9594
@chatterycasque9594 4 жыл бұрын
Salamis: I keep trying, but I suck. Salamis Kai (0083): Watch how it's done *blows up* Salamis Kai wearing sunglasses and having mobile suit bodyguards: Amateurs
@CT-Clone
@CT-Clone 4 жыл бұрын
GM development history when?
@corporategunner5972
@corporategunner5972 4 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting to watch
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he already do a video about that?
@GenJuhru
@GenJuhru 4 жыл бұрын
already out quite recently
@NebDaBrush
@NebDaBrush 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertdrexel2043 That was the GM Sniper.
@NebDaBrush
@NebDaBrush 4 жыл бұрын
@@GenJuhru That was the GM Sniper.
@donaldfritz8713
@donaldfritz8713 4 жыл бұрын
This may be literally the only video on KZfaq going over any ship class of any kind from Gundam
@benchui580
@benchui580 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks kakarot!!!! I really love the space battleship in the gundam universe, hope you can do more of these ship video! I wish bandai can release these ship model kit.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be game for more videos talking about the warships of Gundam.
@CD-Freedom
@CD-Freedom 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe if doing individual ships is hard to get info on, you could do videos on the navy of different Gundam Universes. What ships there were and how they were altered during the events of the series overall.
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath 5 ай бұрын
I love how insanely massive the battles between fleets are in Gundam. It really highlights how much humanity has grown. And perhaps also the scale of the space around Earth. They look like they could build 40k scale ships if they wanted and probably more than most battlefleets (seriously, Imperial fleets for a sector are stupidly tiny). But, they wouldn’t be able to patrol and defend their territory. Space is huge when you have no way to shorten the distance.
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 4 жыл бұрын
4:07 4th: the ships where forgoing potentially need supply in their cargo bays in order to store MSs
@greggbarkerr1150
@greggbarkerr1150 4 жыл бұрын
Ship development in gundam hmmm 🤔 Interesting hope to see more soon.
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 2 жыл бұрын
Its interesting to speculate how quickly the Federation would've won had the Minovsky Particles not been discovered by Zeon. Heck, if the Federation had caught on early enough they could've switched gears
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept Жыл бұрын
No, the Federation has always been corrupt, and doing just that would mean someone has a brain that is against the powers in such places. Think Russia, and you'll get the gist of the Federation.
@blackcomet2nd950
@blackcomet2nd950 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the design of the Nelson-class ship. It looks like something for perhaps a special forces unit that doesn’t require many mobile suits so they have a basic carrier for the limited number of mobile suits.
@ZETAPLUSA70
@ZETAPLUSA70 Жыл бұрын
The Salamis is just like the Arleigh Burke of the Gundam Universe, both are decade years old designs that remain active service for a very long time
@psycholocke4090
@psycholocke4090 4 жыл бұрын
excellent video. i truely like the spaceships in gundam. I would like to see some of the Flagships, their history, combat achievements, engagements and so on.
@TheBigExclusive
@TheBigExclusive 4 жыл бұрын
Were gonna need a video on the Musai class Development History now.
@yada1626
@yada1626 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
Heaven knows why they'd bother with all those mega particle cannons when we know machine gun fire of high enough MM can work just as fine, if not even better for consistency.
@FLMKane
@FLMKane 3 жыл бұрын
Because gelgoogs
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 3 жыл бұрын
@@FLMKane That sounds like a chicken and egg dilema but we're looking at the chicken here so I don't see why you'd bother.
@alex123-useboy6
@alex123-useboy6 4 жыл бұрын
That was a good history lesson 👍
@youngimperialistmkii
@youngimperialistmkii 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of warships in UC Gundam. Thanks for shining some light on this lass glamorous part of the lore.
@gab0139
@gab0139 4 жыл бұрын
Now i need to see the Clop-class cruisers of londo bell. #EFSF #ECOAS
@talonharibon8577
@talonharibon8577 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, Ships!! Man, Ships from the Gundam never get enough love.. Thanks for this.
@tsukinotsubame17
@tsukinotsubame17 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you make more Development Explanations of other Warships too like for Example the White Base Class and Her Sister Ships and Also Other EFSF and Zeon Ships...
@solaireofastora5999
@solaireofastora5999 5 күн бұрын
It would be funny if in each Gundam Universe, you could still see Salamis in the background just because not even Turn A could destroy all of them
@DARKNESS7STRIKE
@DARKNESS7STRIKE 4 жыл бұрын
3:20 Are you sure about this? As I see it, it is only equipment to supply jet fuel, beam weapon energy, and Ballistic weapons ammunition
@davepowers3194
@davepowers3194 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed the opening in the bottom of the Salamis was a cargo bay door and the GMs were simply carried in the cargo bay instead of an actual hangar
@killingragethrowback
@killingragethrowback 3 жыл бұрын
The irony is that if Zeon had fought only with ships like the Zanzibar and Musai... they would have lost. Mobile Suits are that much of a game changer. Against another Sci-Fi navy such as from the Yamato series, Star Wars, Star Trek and others, despite the lack of Star Drive, the Salamis would do well. It would have been perfect in the Babylon 5 universe as a staple of Earth Alliance. It had the look, and would have a respectable punch. And it's lack of Star Drive can be offset by use of Jumpgates!
@thesilentedge2123
@thesilentedge2123 4 жыл бұрын
Will this video explode....we'll see
@Bobert2020
@Bobert2020 4 жыл бұрын
Just like the salamis cruisers in Gundam.
@ZekeZeon
@ZekeZeon 4 жыл бұрын
Kakarot197 have you ever built any of the 1/1200 or 1/1700 ships? Would be interesting to see a review of those!
@clpfox470
@clpfox470 4 жыл бұрын
the good old sally class cruiser, im supersized the federation didn't keep at least some of the 0083 refits around, sure their anti ms capability wasn't all that great but one paired with two clop class would make up for the clops lack of armament
@DONZ3LL00G
@DONZ3LL00G 4 жыл бұрын
Since you mentioned ships getting nuked, any chance of covering the origins of True Federal. Or maybe the over the top action of the Nemesis Corps from Were Federation Hooligans and Gundam Katana?
@none-q4o
@none-q4o 4 жыл бұрын
Out of most Gundam series, I think Seed have the most warship battle. And also archangel has a one of the best design, since it allows Strike to stand on the ship and recharge battery at the same time.
@shoootme
@shoootme 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't look to close at the battles from the non HD SEED, I have started to make 3D models of the ships for 3D printing and well you can see where the art budget was spent, not on the Drakes or Nelsons.
@zerox8413
@zerox8413 4 жыл бұрын
I have feeling Archangel design actually borrowed from SCV-73 Blanc Rival instead of SCV-70 White Base It's bridge design identical to Archangel than White Base bridge to Archangel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrWefNeH09-vp5c.html
@none-q4o
@none-q4o 4 жыл бұрын
zero X I agree you on this one, not only the cannon is on top of the leg area similarly. The fin is also on the bottom of the ship instead of the top like white base.
@KADASUVA
@KADASUVA 3 жыл бұрын
Should have called it the Salami class, because a single Zaku could make lunch meat out of it.
@dustybunny6716
@dustybunny6716 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you do more eps on ships. Personally I would like to see an ep explaining the Pegasus line during the OYW. I was surprised when playing G Generation Genesis how many similar ships there was compared to White Base. Blanc Rival, Grey Phantom, Thoroughbred and many others. I think Albion would count too?
@zerox8413
@zerox8413 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be hard to explain Considering we not even see the original titular ship of the class yet... The SCV-69 Pegasus
@goufr3540
@goufr3540 4 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see the development history of the Gelgoog/Galbady models and the MS Flight Platforms used in both atmosphere and space.
@canisblack
@canisblack 4 жыл бұрын
You know I'd like to see the development history of SEED's EA ships. They do have some on-screen evolution from the beginning of SEED to the end of SEED Destiny. Not sure how much documentation on them there is though.
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 2 жыл бұрын
Practically none, sad to say. We do not even know when they were first introduced. Or even if they were from separate member state space navies. As the Earth Alliance wasn't even formed till right before the start of the First War. Before that, the Alliance was mainly known as the Sponsor Nations, as they were the ones who put the money forward to construct the PLANT Colonies.
@a.h.1358
@a.h.1358 2 жыл бұрын
It was a shame the 0083-refit got shit canned. Also, that the Salamis needed to take off from Earth might explain why they’re so flimsy-you can’t be a heavily armored space fortress and escape Earth’s gravity.
@Hatzi89
@Hatzi89 Жыл бұрын
Getting strong space battleship yamato vibes from these ships
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 2 жыл бұрын
If your cargo bays are tall enough to fit a mobile suit it's not hard to turn that into a hangar
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that the battles and fleets make it pretty obvious that Gundam (same with SEED) uses the term “battleship” and “cruiser” and so on in a very different way than in real life. Ship classes seem to me to be more about specialized roles in a fleet rather than “big guns to blam blam”.
@KyriosMirage
@KyriosMirage 4 жыл бұрын
Always love hearing about the ships of Gundam! They don't get enough love.
@appletherapy
@appletherapy 9 ай бұрын
What I love about Gundam is that they had tons and tons of money to spend on the war!!!!
@SabinStargem
@SabinStargem 4 жыл бұрын
I think the original Salamis used the cargo bay for storing and deploying mobile suits. They probably used the rest of the ship for storing smaller parts and food, similar to a how a u-boat does things. It wouldn't surprise me if they had to unload the suits to bring in the goods, distribute those items throughout the ship, then load the suits back into place. Being a quartermaster for a OYW Salamis has gotta be hell.
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, could have sworn the main cargo bay for the Salamis Class was forward right behind the bow launchers. It is under that hatch-like thing behind the forward most gun turret. I remember seeing an old cut-a-way lineart from some sourcebook that someone showed me that areas of the ships labeled and such.
@wolfzwizdom
@wolfzwizdom Жыл бұрын
I just love the Clop and Salamis class.
@CanonicalBomb
@CanonicalBomb Жыл бұрын
The Salamis Class is just the B-52 of the Feddys
@dragonknight1560
@dragonknight1560 4 жыл бұрын
I have a request @Kakrarot197, a question that ALWAYS puzzle me: How did Char survive his battle against Haman at the end of Zeta, what the hell did he do during ZZ (other than grieving on Kamille's "death") and events before Char's Counterattack? I've always been puzzle how did Char pull ALL that his assumed "death" to the man who was ALMOST about to "destroy" the Earth.
@boggers4208
@boggers4208 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the salamis a battleship on space with jets quite an interesting choice for a battleship
@stryderprime
@stryderprime 4 жыл бұрын
Yes more history of ships from Gundam!
@MinamotoKyoshiro
@MinamotoKyoshiro 4 жыл бұрын
Other than costs, was their any particular reason why you never see more Pegasus class or Argama class(or larger) ships? Were the modified salamis equal to them or was it still federation relying on numbers?
@YiminyCricket
@YiminyCricket 4 жыл бұрын
ohohohohohoh IDEA for a development history. a video pertaining to Beam saber/heat weapons. well, at least a Universal Century edition
@gigabyteguru2452
@gigabyteguru2452 4 жыл бұрын
Can you cover the Abyss Gundam and the other Second stage Series suits?
@eisenklad
@eisenklad 4 жыл бұрын
oh nice... something i sort of suggested.. after all the ship did appear in OYW up to Victory
@Bobert2020
@Bobert2020 4 жыл бұрын
Ya like jazz?
@BillyMartin4Life
@BillyMartin4Life 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on the Magellan-class Battleship
@TylerPal271
@TylerPal271 4 жыл бұрын
Here is something for your next question of the week if it interests you. Boofire191 did a video on whether or not Newtypes could survive in Evangelion's universe and the answer he reached was no. I was wondering if you could answer whether or not a mobile suit pilot could survive/thrive/win in the Evangelion universe. It just seems like something worth looking into.
@TylerPal271
@TylerPal271 4 жыл бұрын
This is part two that I thought up while pondering my own question, but could a mobile suit defeat an angel in Evangelion? To be clear, when I say mobile suit I mean any machine that a regular person could be trained to operate so no Newtype or Cyber Newtype machines, no Seed Mode or Trans-Am, and no superpower computer stuff like the EXAM, HADES, or ZERO systems. For an example, let's say EVA-01 was replaced with the RX-78-2 for some reason, Shinji had the knowledge of how to pilot it slapped into his head so he didn't have to waste time learning the controls, and he was deployed to fight an Angel. Could the weapons of the original Gundam produce enough firepower to breach the Angel's AT-Field and damage or destroy the Angel?
@Goldhawk7
@Goldhawk7 4 жыл бұрын
They should have gotten Anaheim Electronics to redo the Salamis design. Cause all I remember the Salamis is it exploding after Zakus and other mobile suits just absolutely blasting them to pieces.
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