2023 BMW M3 Competition vs Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs Chevy Camaro ZL. Drag and Roll Race

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2023 BMW M3 Competition vs Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs Chevy Camaro ZL. Drag and Roll Race
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@Jaimehellcat Жыл бұрын

Sam!! I’m loving the channel! “LET’S ROLL!!” Gets me very time!! ❤❤❤

@tomc6593 Жыл бұрын

STOP SHIFTING USING THE PADDLES, LET THE CARS SHIFT ON THEIR OWN. YOU ARE SKEWING THE RACE RESULTS EVERY TIME!

@ayushmalpeddi2793 3 ай бұрын

Yup. I definitely know in 10-speed cars the car upshifts faster than a PDK when in automatic mode and in the sportiest setting. Doing it manually is 100% slower even if you have perfectly timed shifts.

@yimpyoi9808 2 ай бұрын

@@ayushmalpeddi2793yep even if you shift perfectly you are interrupting the transmissions logic which would be faster than just letting the valve train do what it was meant to.

@crxtodd16 Жыл бұрын

I love the Giulia. Win or lose, that car is not only beautiful, but it's somethung else to drive.

@Ssj2Bardock 6 ай бұрын

yeah but to be honest the guilia quadrifoglio does need traction off for drag races or else it will limit the power output enormeus....but well

@markushauck3932 5 ай бұрын

And you will love the Giulia even more after the next hard turn. Not sure about the Camaro.

@larryzeldin7561 5 ай бұрын

Are you implying the Camaro especially a ZL1 can’t handle? I think you should check lap times for both,even just the SS puts down great numbers. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Alfa and loved it when it originally came out but it’s been to damn long and barely anything changed. Forget a refresh or horsepower bump,needs a whole new refresh.

@crxtodd16 5 ай бұрын

@@larryzeldin7561 The Giulia is definitely getting long in the tooth.

@Ssj2Bardock 5 ай бұрын

talking about the m3 here not the camaro@@larryzeldin7561

@jamesmin2837 Жыл бұрын

It's frustrating to see people not know how to race automatics in roll racing. You start in manual mode to hold desired gear. Once race is on, you switch to automatic so the car shifts the quickest and at optimal RPM.

@Turtle-sz7sk Жыл бұрын

It’s not rocket science and he never does it

@anthonysaquatics4359 Жыл бұрын

😢 the races are so skewed. The zl1 would have put a football field on the Alfa if don’t correctly lol

@You__GG Жыл бұрын

@@anthonysaquatics4359 Have you ever driven a giulia quadrifoglio? It’s the best.

@lauzagna Жыл бұрын

You can also leave it in auto and blip the throttle in the ZL1. It'll change to performance shifting and downshift to the sutible gear on its own.

@jamesmin2837 Жыл бұрын

@@lauzagna Yep, but u have to be in that mode before the pull reduce the delay. Also, he didn't even know about the actual Performance Mode.. double tap on the traction button to enter whole in Sport or Track. Sigh...

@ihateshysters Жыл бұрын

The Giulia is beautiful.

@gdsnake98 Жыл бұрын

Loved seeing the Alfa in general especially up against a ZL1. Not bad for 150 hp difference. Another great upload! 👍🏼👍🏼

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

yeah, the thrid roll in auto the zl1 was asleep he did not know what to do, xdrive did the buisness the m3 smashed the camaro

@geraldfoley4121 Жыл бұрын

That’s a ZL1 1LE. Too bad he didn’t have a regular ZL1. The top end is must faster than this one.

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

@geraldfoley4121 I mean if you want the ultimate top of the line the 1le would be it

@tampablackwing Жыл бұрын

@@chrism869slower in straight line

@The_IOP_god 10 ай бұрын

@@invalidusername_5101 the Alfa is RWD

@NycX360 Жыл бұрын

Premieres are whack, just drop the videos , lol

@NS416 Жыл бұрын

You can pay for the subscription monthly and get early access to the videos.

@quick2mack74 Жыл бұрын

The videos themselves are wack now too lol. This channel is falling off….weird matchups, shitty drivers, shitty camera angles. Thank god CarWow and Auto Glory exist 🤣.

@navoj-fm4195 Жыл бұрын

@@NS416 no

@jamesmin2837 Жыл бұрын

Only idiots would pay for these videos.

@NS416 Жыл бұрын

@@navoj-fm4195 then wait lol easy

@rindordrums Жыл бұрын

Man! What a difference the X Drive made on the M3. Great stuff as always, Sam!

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@Peanutdenver Жыл бұрын

I have a G82 M4C and when you put it into rear wheel drive mode I swear it feels like the car has less power. I don't know if this is a psychological trick on my butt speedodometer or BWM retards the power a bit. You do have to have stability control off for 2 wheel drive. Anyway, yes you're right, xdrive makes an enormous difference from a dig.

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

yes, as expected, it decimated the camaro

@roboticvenom1935 Жыл бұрын

@@chrism869but roll races matter way more then LAUNCHING from a dig..

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

@roboticvenom1935 I guess that's true, but an m3 would be a closer rival than the gulia, m3 hp is always underestimated, it makes like 550

@iwhineTL Жыл бұрын

Just proves, you can't believe what BMW claims. 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, stock, is unreal. The G80 M3 competition Xdrive is a beast. I love ours.

@matzepizzaheld8541 Жыл бұрын

Well it’s European measurement: meaning not 0-60 but 0-62 (100kph) and NO rollout. Add that on it and you will exactly what bmw claims

@Mike604 Жыл бұрын

@@matzepizzaheld8541 All I hear is a lot of coping

@hassanger8128 Жыл бұрын

@matzepizzaheld8541 BMW USA claimed that the M3 Xdrive will do 0-60 MPH in 3.4 seconds, and the quarter mile in 11.9 seconds. They are absolutely underratting their car performance by a big margin.

@chrisb1047 Жыл бұрын

Those ratings bmw advertise are for comfort mode not sport+ because sport+ is meant for track and comfort is what you drive around in mostly.

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

@hassanger8128 yeah, totally, pepole have seen 2.8 sec to 60 and low 11s ,bmw lying once again, typical germans

@mogulme6190 Жыл бұрын

That fucking zl1 is crazy impressive. 3.3 seconds on a unprepared surface? Rwd and front engine…that’s crazy

@groupenergon1378 Ай бұрын

With 150 HP more and even lighter then the Alfa......Really???

@aritruths1452 Жыл бұрын

Still will pick Alfa! Very rare and stands out the most.

@Sikeslikescars Жыл бұрын

Yep, buy the worst quality and worst preforming car of the bunch simply because it’s rare. You do know why it’s rare right? Because mostly clowns looking for attention or to be different buy them. 😂 I love the Alfa dont get me wrong, but buying it because it’s rare is such an illogical thing to do. And the reason it stands out is because most people hate it’s Dorito nose. Even though I quite like it.

@aritruths1452 Жыл бұрын

@@Sikeslikescars are you okay? Do you need some Mental Health services?

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

@Sikeslikescars woah, it's not bad quality by any means, I mean compared to the camaro it is similar in quality I would say, pepole say oh handling is great but quality is totally dogshit, I don't agree with that.

@AD-ll4iz Жыл бұрын

Ngl I have a stelvio and I’m thinking about staying away… for my next car

@AD-ll4iz Жыл бұрын

@@chrism869I have a stelvio I can agree the quality could be better….

@doubleaaaron Жыл бұрын

I think the zl1 is one of the best sounding modern cars from inside the cabin.

@EdMiF Жыл бұрын

Outside as well! 👍🏼

@mryouknooow Жыл бұрын

The V3 sounds virtually the same.

@user-yk5eg8qf5k Жыл бұрын

The w204 c63 sounds miles ahead better

@brennan2553 Жыл бұрын

The Zl1 1LE isn't a great comparison because it's the track version which has tons of extra downforce and is not tuned for straight line speed, the normal ZL1 is a little bit quicker in drag races and cheaper too.

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

The regular zl1 in my opinion is the one to get. The 1le is overkill and loses mag ride.

@gracestingray Жыл бұрын

I agree , the non-1LE could do better

@Blue-moon12 Жыл бұрын

One of the best drag races on this channel in my opinion. Thanks Sam and to all the drivers.

@markpomerhn76 Жыл бұрын

Wow! That M3 is a beast!

@Kuzman_007 8 ай бұрын

Alfa is better 🇮🇹🤌

@subkarpaty 3 ай бұрын

@@Kuzman_007 as i see worse

@khankash7342 3 ай бұрын

@@subkarpaty Alfa is better than the m3 and the c63. Test drive all 3 of them and the best driving car will be the Alfa

@courtney5796 Жыл бұрын

Could you imagine what type of Camaros we would have if not for the Corvette?

@woodahl Жыл бұрын

That S58 is a monster of a motor.

@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын

Great comparison. Props to the ZL1 given its power and only RWD.

@markbrix9385 Жыл бұрын

RWD is actually an advantage in a rolling race! It's only a disadvantage in a drag race. So it was not ggod.

@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын

@@markbrix9385 the ZL1 won every roll race.

@hotrod182 Жыл бұрын

A rear wheel drive M3 would be lighter and better in a roll race. So the BMW has to be appreciated on how it slaughters in the AWD mode and still does decent in the roll races.

@mogulme6190 Жыл бұрын

@@hotrod182a rwd m3 launches terribly though, the zl1 going 3.3 seconds rwd on a non prepped surface is kind of crazy and unexpected

@courtney5796 Жыл бұрын

all talk about power. its the new transmissions yo. 7, 8, 9, 10 gear autos with lightning quick shifts.

@latino914 Жыл бұрын

M3 is on another Level! Alpha Romeo did it's thing.

@iggyGT 9 ай бұрын

M3 is a beast but i prefer a beauty 🇮🇹

@marcotra5 2 ай бұрын

Alfa not alpha!

@gracestingray Ай бұрын

It lost 😂 , BMW sucks

@blblblblblbllblblblbl9386 19 күн бұрын

@@gracestingray bmw wins it all when drove on Xdrive they shut down bc they knew he win with that option so they make it a bit interesting but sry us cars sucks bro we europeans know

@Gaptv1320 Жыл бұрын

That 10 speed shifts like a DCT very impressive

@slicelol1463 10 ай бұрын

Isn’t it a DCT ?

@lcameeno1 9 ай бұрын

@@slicelol1463 no

@ayushmalpeddi2793 3 ай бұрын

Actually the 10-speed upshifts faster than Porsches PDK when first revealed. 10-speed is probably the fasting shifting automatic trans with real gears. Almost feels like a CVT at times with how fast it shifts and how close the gears are.

@Mohamed-ht5du Жыл бұрын

No matter the drive system any car have 150HP difference is not logical to put any car against it

@00CAMAROSSFTW Жыл бұрын

That ZL1 up top is booking. What a great car for the money. Such a great track car too. Great trio of cars.

@lawrenceredden9049 Жыл бұрын

That 10 speed auto keeps that engine right in the nest of its power band

@christopherpickens1478 Жыл бұрын

Throw it in 2nd and on the hit put it back in drive and let the ZL1 EAT

@jakelooser5050 5 ай бұрын

Easier way is to just blip the throttle to the floor and it'll put it in performance shift mode.

@BmwAlfa123 Жыл бұрын

That Alfa is so impressive. Basically matches M3 RWD performance and drives much better and sounds so much better

@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын

it doesn't drive better. It's much slower on a track. Soundwise I agree. But as a performance car the BMW is superior.

@BmwAlfa123 Жыл бұрын

@@peterhammer6915 it literally destroyed the m3 on the nurburgring 😂😂😂

@thomasferrarojr.9772 Жыл бұрын

It handles better in terms of feel, dynamics, engagement, fun. It's not even close.

@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын

@@BmwAlfa123 with semislicks which are unusable in normal driving

@BmwAlfa123 Жыл бұрын

@@peterhammer6915 wrong again. You must have read a fake internet article starting they were semi slicks

@Brian_RobinsonK11 Жыл бұрын

I was so pumped to see this video and it didn’t disappoint! Great races!! Love seeing the ZL1 and would love to see more with the Alfa!

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

More to come!

@Marc2k6 Жыл бұрын

The only reason the BMW has rear wheel drive mode is to do donuts‼️💯

@thethreatwrestling.7053 Жыл бұрын

The Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio needs a better driver. The car have 505hp. That car will run way quicker.

@tyhyhh 5 ай бұрын

Better driver? It's an auto 😂😂

@osvaldoarias1121 Жыл бұрын

I sold my 2019 zl1 and got me an M3 comp with xdrive , both are great cars.

@cliffelmore5834 Жыл бұрын

That's crazy that going X-drive (AWD) cut over a half second of the 1/4 mile for the M3. All three cars would be fun regardless.

@invalidusername_5101 Жыл бұрын

Why are y'all surprised

@maverickphantom005 Жыл бұрын

If it was a mile race, well ZL1 would have no competition in this lineup

@blazesmooth5573 7 ай бұрын

@@maverickphantom005 find me a mile long drag strip you go to

@ivannedkov3330 2 ай бұрын

@maverickphantom005 That bmw m3 engine easily has the potential to be 1000+ hp

@kermitpurcell6432 Жыл бұрын

I've had both the ZL1 and the QV. The ZL1 always felt like it was on a different level due to the supercharged V8. It was a lot more fun around town due to that instant low torque. So you could play around at part throttle without being crazy. The Alfa needed to stretch it's legs. So to have fun, you really had to be going a lot harder. It was SUCH a gorgeous car though. They're a pain to mod and the electronics can be a little finicky. I've been on the fence about getting a new M3 Comp Xdrive though. Simple stage 2 mods put these things in the 9's which is insane. Room for the family and the interior feels the part for the price.

@allan2466 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend getting a QV?

@nedialkosimonov3893 Жыл бұрын

In England for 12000$ you can up to 750hp without any problems on engine or gearbox. You can find video of this M3 in carwow chanel . Its insane , make 10.2 in 1/4.

@kermitpurcell6432 Жыл бұрын

@@allan2466 Absolutely! Especially with the current used market on them. The stereo is mediocre as well as the infotainment but as far as a fun daily driver, it's hard to beat. The JB4 tuner really woke it up.

@roboticvenom1935 Жыл бұрын

Stage 2 does not put m3's in the 9's. You're an absolute melon for believing such stupidity

@roboticvenom1935 Жыл бұрын

@@kermitpurcell6432don't try the HK system on the m3 it's so woeful

@BossPau Жыл бұрын

M3 @ 2.8s is insane!

@gracestingray Жыл бұрын

That is fake numbers or a mistake , BMW itself claimed it is 3.4 with X-drivers , the Camaro is 4s not 3.2 s too , both drivers launched pretty slow , POV : they can’t launch their cars

@younesshadaoui6281 Жыл бұрын

Ala Romeo Giulia the best ❤

@NoLiftShift Жыл бұрын

I own a 2023 6spd manual ZL1 and I can tell you it really is that freaking fast! But launching it is definitely a handful!

@RDriver2.0 Жыл бұрын

Yeah was surprised he got this off so fast considering.. but it was an automatic.

@michaelschwab9563 Жыл бұрын

Drag radials. Something you NEVER see on Not ONE of the cars on these videos. Kinda ridiculous.

@Messergebnis-liebhaber Жыл бұрын

M3 wasn't beaten by the Camaro even in RWD mode (1st dig race)! It could also keep up with Camaro in 70 km/h Rolling run!!! 3.0L vs 6.2L !!! That's insane!!!

@prefescent4460 Жыл бұрын

maybe insane if you like bmws

@Messergebnis-liebhaber Жыл бұрын

@@prefescent4460 Mind reading is quite common these days!

@yaniayache5132 Жыл бұрын

Wow what a fanboy

@kobedabest Жыл бұрын

S58 engine is 🔥

@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын

And the M3’s engine is a mere flash tune away from 800 hp dyno verified. They’re running sub 9.5 now on stock engines, stock turbos, full weight and stock pirelli summer tires. Only mods to get yours there; flash tune, downpipes, and e85.

@jjg1000 Жыл бұрын

Bmw just beating the zl1 in rwd mode with 150bhp less power .... thats the difference in engineering

@aaronkowalewski659 3 ай бұрын

Let's not forget the BMW is probably making it's rated power to the wheels not at the crank. So its pretty close power wise between the BMW and the camaro.

@markb7000 Жыл бұрын

That x drive M3/4 is a monster. Launches so hard. 😅

@Messergebnis-liebhaber Жыл бұрын

Probably ZL1 in roll races and M3 in dig ones!

@matt0198922 Жыл бұрын

You guys always do roll races so annoyingly (no offense, I do love the content!). You either do full "manual" mode on cars that are best left to automatic shifting, OR you do automatic mode, but including the kick down. Now, don't get me wrong, both of those are important to test! But, please please PLEASE do the best version of the roll race: Use manual mode to select starting gear Floor it Put transmission back into automatic shifting mode This way gives you the best/most-optimal start as well as the best/most-optimal shift timing (never short shifting nor banging off of the rev limiter). PLEASE.

@mariorivas9673 Жыл бұрын

Not really fair, the Camaro has 150 hp more than the other two.

@valentinsandu261 Жыл бұрын

i will love to see the ZL1 vs M5 CS will see who is the daddy !!! Great job man

@moabshow Жыл бұрын

M5 will eat it up with a blind fold

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

M5 is faster. But in the zl1 defense aint much short of 100g+ touching it around a track. And thats just the regular zl1 not counting a 1le.

@telliesmith9825 Жыл бұрын

M5 on a drag race on a track zle and the zl1 1le is a real dangerous weapon

@p.smallz6168 Жыл бұрын

As long as the road is straight then M5, as soon as you throw in the curves the ZL1 leaves it. Chevy doesn’t have as much of an aggressive launch control either. The BMWs hit hard off the jump.

@lauzagna Жыл бұрын

Sam's reaction to the ZL1 when he floored it was priceless. That's how I still feel every time 😂

@user-gs4vo6no3j Жыл бұрын

Great races as always, Sam. Would have liked to see roll and drag races with the Alfa vs. the BMW, though.

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

Next time!

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

I mean, We all know who's gonna win, the bmw obviousy

@oscarmj81 Жыл бұрын

The fact that the m3 was in rwd and still kept up pretty amazing. That Alfa Romeo very nice too. That zl1 is a beast.

@TheHybridQ50S Жыл бұрын

Lol

@quakerthroats9010 Жыл бұрын

Kept up??? Give me a break. It got hawked down every single time.

@MercedesBoyzz Жыл бұрын

@@quakerthroats9010agreed

@nedialkosimonov3893 Жыл бұрын

True competition ZL1 vs M5. But you know result😉

@imahustlah3609 Жыл бұрын

@nedialkosimonov3893 that is a different class of car. Put the zo6 against it and watch the m5 cry.

@YamaOma_Kunda Жыл бұрын

I think I would like to see more of the cars than people in the cars drag racing.

@brndn8274 Жыл бұрын

They need to do the thingy on ZL1 for the roll race, where you start off with manual then snap back in to drive😌 almost a night and day difference👌🏻💯

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

They did

@joshualewis393 Жыл бұрын

@@dnegel9546They didn't. The ZL1 was in manual mode for the 1st and 2nd roll races as you can see him manually shifting. From that point on, all the other races were in auto. Never did they put it in manual then put it back into D after flooring it. I've never understood that concept of manually shifting an automatic car for a straight line race. A human cannot out shift an automatic transmission.

@JD._.1 Жыл бұрын

Stggg🤦🏽‍♂️ these dude really don’t know smh!!!

@johnmuzic3475 Жыл бұрын

For the love of God please take that necklace off of the rearview mirror in the Camaro it keeps swinging around and it's very irritating to watch lol.... and why are the cars so much quieter in Europe than they are here in the USA? it seems like you guys have the exhaust systems which are completely choking the car's performance potential, and it doesn't let the cars sound very nice compared to here in the USA.. also seems like the cars are testing slower acceleration times in Europe than they do here in the USA for almost all performance cars it's really weird..

@rolandb.3989 Жыл бұрын

ZL1 driver is like 100 lbs compared to the other drivers. Try rwd mode on roll race for m3?

@NCM89747 Жыл бұрын

Its nice to see the M3 in RWD mode being the heaviest of the 3 cars still do what it did VS the camaro ZL1

@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын

Grain of salt. Rwd mode/drift mode doesn't Have TC or LC. That race was Not accurate. Just being factual

@NCM89747 Жыл бұрын

@@WindyCity1992 that’s not being factual at all if anything it further validates what I’m talking about and further adds superiority to the m3. The ZL1 has 147 horsepower on it and in a condition where the m3 turns off it’s all wheel drive, having less power and weighing more makes the Chevy look even worse.

@damianparris2811 8 ай бұрын

It’s still a twin turbo v8 vs a supercharger pls stop the comparisons two different types of forced inductions and bmw needs two at that so please stop

@NCM89747 8 ай бұрын

@@damianparris2811 tell that to the author of the video that literally made a video comparing them. What type of induction a vehicle has DOES NOT matter. The m3 with 150 horsepower less and more weight beat the camaro on real wheel drive setting. Use your brain. I know theyre making school easier to complete but god damn.

@damianparris2811 8 ай бұрын

@@NCM89747 bro be real it’s the same engine in a m8 the hp doesn’t matter bmw clown frfr

@TheCaffeinatedDrive Жыл бұрын

Its faster if you let the ZLE shift itself. If you really want to shift yourself, get one with a third pedal. Awesome vid btw.

@5.0nito Жыл бұрын

Not it’s not bro you saw it lose in auto paddles are stronger

@en_noah4615 Жыл бұрын

@@5.0nito god you are retarded. that doesn't mean anything bro

@en_noah4615 Жыл бұрын

@@5.0nito alfa only won that because it had a major jump

@mikhiranger8469 Жыл бұрын

@@5.0nitoif you think a human can shift faster than a computer you’re a moron.

@garthlund2236 Жыл бұрын

@@5.0nito it is faster, he was redlining it like 5 time, you start in manual then as you get going pop it into auto and let the computer shift, you cannot out perform the computer in an automatic car

@darrellhines4553 Жыл бұрын

That BMW is a beast and that is the M3 the Camaro. Don’t want no day of the M8.

@benlecluyse Жыл бұрын

Insane cars !! ❤❤

@norwegianblue2017 Жыл бұрын

Of course, the ZL1 kills both these cars on the track, including the Nurburgring. To be fair though, the ZL1 is a true sports car, the other two are amazing sports sedans.

@wbwayne8887 Жыл бұрын

"There is no replacement for displacement." With the exception of AWD, at least from a dig. 😂

@michaelschwab9563 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I have two Fast rear wheel drive cars on Drag radials. Why don't the AWD guys ever want to play when they know I hook up? 👀

@wbwayne8887 Жыл бұрын

@michaelschwab9563 Those drag tires definitely make a huge difference, but the average driver will always launch better with awd. It takes some real talent to launch a car like a Shelby GT500 or any variation of Charger/Challenger Hellcat. I have nothing but respect for the one's that can.

@kratohse 8 ай бұрын

Man that Zl1 with zf transmission or DCT would be untouchable for the price range

@salehsami Жыл бұрын

I think there is alot of delay on M3 transmission shifting, is it on the sportiest mode ?

@markbrix9385 Жыл бұрын

The Chevy Camaro ZL1 is actually really bad. It has over 100hp more than the other cars and barely wins. The BMW M3 on the other hand is insanely quick and puts the power down onto the road so well.

@pastorclaudia4054 Жыл бұрын

Man! That ZL1 comaro is a monster🔥

@them60productionm6zero2 Жыл бұрын

2.8 seconds BMW

@simionescudan Жыл бұрын

Moral of the drag race video...fire the other driver....he's not able to figure out when to accelerate. When you (sam) drove ...in most cases you won the races. Just make it fair for each manufacturer....and if you have 3 cars ...race all against each other .. it's okay..you can copy Carwow a little bit. Keep up the good work!

@Vita_In_Macchina Жыл бұрын

Vita_in_macchina here! I know that feeling behind the ZL1!! Awesome Sam!🔥🔥💪🏼💪🏼

@michaelv6870 Жыл бұрын

My next car, the M3 Comp.

@rdvideoclips 8 ай бұрын

Excellent video testing! BMW 0-60 mph times awesome and predictable. However, what I would love to see in testing is how these cars perform real world. For example, flat footing it away from the stop light. No one uses launch control in this scenario, which is a band aid, compensating for turbo lag, imho. That is what I don't get from this testing. Sam, any chance you could include 5mph to 60 mph tests?. Or just flat footing it from a dig, no launch control. I think that this sorts the s/c from the turbos. I am on the fence. Love my Jaguar F type V8s, but lusting after getting a M3C x drive. However, I am really concerned about off idle turbo lag, which would be really disappointing.. Can I give up F type instant power, beast mode? And of course the BMW puny shop vac engine sounds, there's that too. decisions, decisions.

@armofiron7435 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video Sam! Well done. Still would like to find a way to have fair rolling races. Always people jumping before the cones or not at the same speed when startingthe rolling races. 11.0 for the M3 is very good!

@giovanniramos849 Жыл бұрын

You can say the Alfa driver was horrible. This is a safe space thread :)

@RDriver2.0 Жыл бұрын

People jump bigtime so it's hard to control but carwow would have the same dilemma to deal with and they make it work.

@armofiron7435 Жыл бұрын

@RaceDawg Most of the time, on CW, the cars are driven by Matt, Yanni, etc. (people from the channel). Sam let the car owners drive their own car. So, it no longer is objective. But, the other hand, there are no excuses of poor driving,since the owner is supposed to know how to drive his car optimally. Also, CW has 20x more views/budget. When Sam invites people to race and shoot videos, he intends to make 4 different videos in one day. So, if people don't listen to the instructions, it affects the quality of the races. The way I see it is that in the real world, you will always have someone jumping and it's fun to see how the other car can catch up. Nothing is perfect and I love Sam's content even though it is not perfectly setup.

@jean-philippethinel4385 Жыл бұрын

I think the best way is to have a Talkie-Walkie and the lead say go when all are aling and at the same speed

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

We barely get people’s cars in Canada - let alone press cars. Carwow is allowed to race cars owned by manufacturers. We aren’t even allowed to film at the track let alone racing them 😂. Especially Stellantis the company that makes drag racing cars. We film the races multiple times so people don’t make any mistakes. Hence why I stopped doing three way races, less mistakes.

@KandiMan Жыл бұрын

You have two 500hp sedans and you decide it makes sense to not race them head to head? Then you forget to do the M3-ZL1 roll races in manual? Come on, think your planning all the way through, stop winging it.

@nhlanhlamagagula7467 Жыл бұрын

Bmw giving the best of the last generation of ICE in all models..all drag races from diffrent channels if they feature an Mcar it will win all drag and roll..s58 is a masterpeace of engineering at the Best..can beat engines twice its size..Well done M Division

@Mike-lt6sj Жыл бұрын

What the hell are you talking about? Last generation, like you think people are going to buy electric cars? 60% of people don't want one.

@nhlanhlamagagula7467 Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-lt6sjThe future is EV,these are last roll out of oil burners..next M cars are hybrid and EV, Merc has dumped the glorious V8 engine on it's C63s , next M5 is hybrid and EV.. better get used to

@Mike-lt6sj Жыл бұрын

@@nhlanhlamagagula7467 No. Instead, these companies will face severe financial difficulty, or simply go out of business.

@nhlanhlamagagula7467 Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-lt6sj it's not by choice but they being compelled by all this global warming environment regulations to dump ICE in favor of EV

@toku30 Жыл бұрын

They didn't do BMW vs Alfa, so disappointing

@MrF-ly2bb 2 ай бұрын

I really don't think you wanna see

@mellonate1162 Жыл бұрын

I love the way he pronounces Quadrifoglio😅😅

@nextlevelup6810 8 ай бұрын

ZL1 should be in Track mode, not Sport, especially if you're not in manual shifting. Also, need better drivers for the ZL1.

@napraznicul Жыл бұрын

Those claimed 650bhp of camaro ...are clearly visible ANYWHERE 😂

@Doguelife 11 ай бұрын

Just looking at the inside camera shots look how shaky the Zl1 is compared to the bmw. That bmw is class

@petrolheadzone7547 Жыл бұрын

I beleive the data about quarter mile time you showed is incorrect. That m3 comp did 11.0 quarter mile and 0-60 in 2.8 ??🧐

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

Why?

@nick0164 Жыл бұрын

never thought id see the day where an m3 would weigh almost 4000 lbs and have 4wd

@robpr315 Жыл бұрын

Is this the first ZL1 on the channel? Loved your reaction @samcarlegion I have the same reaction every time I'm tapping into the SC whine. One note, the 1LE will trap a bit slower because of the extra aero that makes for a great track car, as long as the track isn't a drag strip.

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

Yep first

@carresenart4669 Жыл бұрын

next time: Camaro vs M5 vs Rs5

@omarrahman5532 Жыл бұрын

I’m shocked that the m3 weighs as much as a Camaro now!!!

@BrownSofaGamer Жыл бұрын

It’s 100lbs more than the Camaro, that’s a lot!

@g.dubyou6263 Жыл бұрын

It has 150 pounds of front axles and transfer case.

@charlesclement383 Жыл бұрын

I'll take the Alfa any day. Best looking car period.

@geraldfoley4121 Жыл бұрын

This is a ZL1 1LE which Sam should have noted. The top end on a regular ZL1 is much higher.

@AllIsWell_22 Жыл бұрын

I love the ZL1/1LE! What an amazing machine!

@_Ambition124 Жыл бұрын

ZL1 Vs GT500 Vs Charger Hellcat Redeye

@xorbitman Жыл бұрын

The M4 Competition is even faster because of 1. Weight and 2. Drag coefficient.

@markmartinez8000 2 ай бұрын

Was the G80 in XDrive for the roll raaces?

@skillz1855 Жыл бұрын

Not too many cars will hang with the ZL1

@afn110 Жыл бұрын

Nice cars ❤, nice racers 🎉. Thanks Sam 😊!

@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@tomweaver7723 Жыл бұрын

Camaros are so slept on. Wow

@scottyd0530 8 ай бұрын

Gahdamn, that ZL1 is nucking futs! Imagine spending almost 100k on a BMW, just to only beat a Camaro with xDrive.

@Louthemailman Жыл бұрын

Zl1 is a monster🔥

@arpadmiklos7339 Жыл бұрын

...and this was the ZL1 1LE with the big wing that has a 10 mph lower top speed (due to the massive aero) than the "regular" ZL1...

@michaelschwab9563 Жыл бұрын

Why doesn't anyone ever come to these races with a properly setup Rear wheel drive car on DR's so it can hook on the Launch? Ya know and Actual street setup 👀

@nallis01 Жыл бұрын

Exciting stuff! If X Drive, everything will be slaughtered from a dig. If not, ///M will have a harder time on both drag and roll.

@michaelschwab9563 Жыл бұрын

Oddly enough it just doesn't work that way in the street racing world. Everyone where I live in FL is on a Drag radial setup and hooks like glue on the streets. Why don't the AWD guys want to play anymore when they see that? Odd right?

@nallis01 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelschwab9563 I see what you're saying. I live in South Florida too and it's definitely different in the street racing world.

@b_moneygo4515 Жыл бұрын

XDrive Mode is a beast.

@toneyclayton485 Жыл бұрын

Just don’t understand why the Camaro ZL1 was used when it has 150hp more than the others. It would be better if all cars extremely close in hp and torque. Then you can see how weight, gearing and other things are better. The Camaro won because it had 150hp more. The BMW was the quickest because of Xdrive. Next time used a modified Giulia QV and the races will be much better. But the Giulia did well having no Xdrive, no launch control at all and down on hp by150. But make it a fair race and watch what happens..

@robpr315 Жыл бұрын

The ZL1 is still coming in cheaper than the other two. A 2SS Camaro would come in even cheaper. I'd rather see MSRP groupings as no one is cross shopping vehicles based on horsepower. They're cross shopping vehicles based on MSRP.

@chrism869 Жыл бұрын

alfa was right there the whole time, a tune would tie it with the camaro

@henryovalles1163 Жыл бұрын

All bmw m3 owners :: thank Alfa Romeo for coming out with the guilia if not your m3 and m4 s would still be slow lol great video

@thomasferrarojr.9772 Жыл бұрын

Yup. They don't get that, though. The Giulia Quadrifoglio raised the bar for sports sedans and still drives better than the new M3. Always will.

@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын

Well what we learned in today's video is the ZL1 1LE is the MUCH faster car. M3 and Guilia are evenly matched though.

@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын

is that the reason that the Camaro did 11.6 and the M3 11.0 ?

@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын

@peterhammer6915 the reason is called traction. Nobody bases a car's sheer power and how fast it is, from a 1/4 dig race. The roll race tells all, when you eliminate the traction advantages and disadvantages. You see who the real faster car is. And if you're sitting here trying to compare a M3 to a ZL1 1LE then, that's problem #1. The ZL1 1LE is a super car.

@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын

@@GERONIMO326 with that much less hp and keeping up with the Camaro I would argue the supercar title goes to Bmw. And yes 1/4 from the dig is the most used universal measure to test how fast a car is.

@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын

@peterhammer6915 on the roll, and using the seat dyno rule, there is no comparison. The Z absolutely walks the M3, not even close. Guess what, a KIA Stinger is faster in the 1/4 than a Mustang GT. Does anyone say the Stinger is faster? No. Traction advantages because you have less horsepower doesn't make you the faster car lmaooo

@-Zelo Жыл бұрын

@@GERONIMO326 The ZL1 definitely puts out supercar perfomance but 100% isn't a supercar. A supercar is much more than raw performance.

@tornatic1983 8 ай бұрын

My garage is '17 Jag F Type R AWD, '14 F10 M5, Infiniti G35 coupe as a daily.

@mcmc1863 Жыл бұрын

Why no manual mode in ZL1 against M3?

@undercoverlc 2 ай бұрын

Driving the M3 xdrive is like being an apex predator on the street. It’s always ready for a street race and it punches so far outside its weight class it’s ridiculous. It’s constantly being measured in the same breath as super cars and off the line and 0-60 it beats some of them. It lacks top speed and 60-100 stock and the handling of a Porsche but with forged internals, 750-1000hp is light work and the super car killer is born.