Sampled Beats Aren't Safe Anymore - The TRUTH

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DJ Pain 1

DJ Pain 1

Күн бұрын

Sample detecting technology is here. So what if you only use short samples? What if you replay a sample? What if you don't profit from your sample-based beats? I clear up the confusion about sample-based beats in this video based on your questions and comments from last week's video.
Here are some samples that won't cause you problems:
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#sellingbeatsonline #beatstars #beatselling #2023 #howtosellbeats
00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Non-Profit Beats Aren't Safe
04:05 - Replaying Samples
07:10 - Labels Charge YOU For Sample Clearance
08:30 - How I Lost My Publishing
11:12 - Why Replay Samples?
12:32 - Make Fake Samples
14:40 - Sample Detection Technology is HERE
Selling beats online 2023

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@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
My samples are all original: djpain1beats.com/sound-kits/soulful-samples-high-society-138290
@hOurTyMeIsNow
@hOurTyMeIsNow Жыл бұрын
So you own all your samples? Therefore KEEP buying Pain beats to be safe ? Lol. I always will, but this re-assures me 🤗
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
@@hOurTyMeIsNow He didn't say all that lol, he just said his _sample packs_ are -safe.- correction: _Nothing_ is "safe." These identification bots are wildin' 😒
@ScantlessBeatz
@ScantlessBeatz Жыл бұрын
Ant nothing full proof but when you keep creating with trusted people u can trust your content is safe for others to use. I heard the Creator of Omnisphere & Nexus speak on people sampling their Sounds from the vsts and reselling and using them and they said to put Legal action on people would be pointless cause they are asking us to use their vsts and sounds and to take us to court would be a waste of time and would make no sense but technically it breaks content copyright rules.
@religionoffreedom
@religionoffreedom Жыл бұрын
What if you replay the sample yourself, and then chop and flip it like you would have done with a master sample? You’d have a different tone and it should be harder to say for sure it was sampled from that song, or maybe I’m just thinking out loud.
@darmarvislee4320
@darmarvislee4320 Жыл бұрын
Pain are you still on the sample lab
@genx7006
@genx7006 Жыл бұрын
Being an old school, late 80s DJ...sampling was LIFE. It was the ultimate tribute to the original song. It was part of what made rap music so FUN. Rap was beats, scratching, beat boxing, rhyming, and SAMPLING. It was a core element of the art. I would love to make an album chock full of samples. Eventually people will just make the music they want to make by going underground.
@Ds1GsK
@Ds1GsK 11 ай бұрын
The Beastie Boys and the Dust Brothers did almost that with Paul’s Boutique. That album is said to be 95% samples, and I think they had to pay out sums of money for it
@lamarr2k
@lamarr2k 11 ай бұрын
Dr. Dre and Puff Daddy wouldn't Exist Period! HIPHOP would Not Exist... The World is crazy without Sampling... I like what James Brown told NORE... he said "Sample my Sh*#!", I get paid of it. That helps Music to last. Wait How many Times has the Color Red been used in Painting!!! Thank GOD we can still paint with almost any color!!!
@spark300c
@spark300c 8 ай бұрын
well it start in 1970s where black youth in 1970s give their rap to music that all ready recorded. It something you only get away with in that situation because the DJ had the rights to play the music.
@eddiethetruhead
@eddiethetruhead Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying this troubling issue Homie. I guess I’ll just continue to be the underground copyright criminal I’ve always been. Sampling and mixing/scratchin vinyl is the sonic foundation of our culture and will never be abandoned by the diehard Heads. Even if we end up just making it for ourselves. Yes yes Y’all! And it don’t stop!🔥🔊🔥 Peace to all the crate diggas with dusty fingas. Keep on.
@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl-
@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl- Жыл бұрын
Exactly.. Make it for ourselves, *voilà*
@DIGIHENDRIX300
@DIGIHENDRIX300 Жыл бұрын
We take those hits as we make those hits
@MSNGR415
@MSNGR415 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be sampling till I’m 90…they can come sue me for my walker.
@DontHearHipHopJustFeel
@DontHearHipHopJustFeel Жыл бұрын
We all making the good shit for our own satisfaction these days. Nothing to stop a DJ using them for ill live sets.
@beyondcompare9526
@beyondcompare9526 Жыл бұрын
I blend music at home, but thank you for info
@manatee_flips6811
@manatee_flips6811 Жыл бұрын
Weaponizing against artists never ends.
@DonaId_J_Trump
@DonaId_J_Trump Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Portishead, the GOATS. For their self titled album they wrote a completely separate album, pressed it to vinyl, wore the vinyl out to age it, then sampled it for parts of the actual album. Literally sampled themselves.
@mrfreeze2446
@mrfreeze2446 Жыл бұрын
That's genius & creative as fuck lol
@MitchWise86
@MitchWise86 Жыл бұрын
They did sample a group though, I have a record they took something from
@Shannonkellysk81111
@Shannonkellysk81111 Жыл бұрын
That’s hella genius,I woulda never thought to do that. That’s a ton of work just to get a sound or song but if it made money and get major recognition then it was worth it.
@volodymyrbilyk555
@volodymyrbilyk555 Жыл бұрын
@@MitchWise86 they took bits from Isaac Hayes
@leescuderi8331
@leescuderi8331 Жыл бұрын
They did use some old jazz samples through out their album though but the bulk of it was from them.
@beatbuildersstudio
@beatbuildersstudio Жыл бұрын
This breakdown is gold. More people need to hear the business side of making music.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@illyareid66
@illyareid66 Жыл бұрын
Wish this would have happened long ago because I love hiphop but it's gotten so bad with samples that there's no new generation of skilled musicians that really play and now everyone sounds the same because music is just being resample SMH ...so I'm all for this new tech right now as long as they get the bugs out first
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 Жыл бұрын
sure it only stops us from making music at all because if you know the law then you know that making music is legally impossible..
@Solodolo84
@Solodolo84 Жыл бұрын
Keep sampling!!!! keep breathing new life into these forgotten songs!!!!! keep bringing back these forgotten artists!!!!! keep the music alive!!!! obviously the suits and the execs dont care about creativity. they cant stop the bum rush!!!!! if they let modern artist actually make things they enjoy making, maybe they will garner the respect the artists and execs before them. of course, i know the main goal was to make money back then, but look at how much great and iconic music we used to get. look at how potent and stacked the genres were. it was grand and we enjoyed it as the listener and as inspired artists.
@kiddalmatiangawd8389
@kiddalmatiangawd8389 11 ай бұрын
👀 tbh the only safe spot is SoundCloud I feel like
@jerrymayo2586
@jerrymayo2586 Жыл бұрын
You have been a digital mentor for me since 2013. I love sampling but I started playing in bands before I started making beats so I prefer to play my own compositons. I stumbled upon making my own samples by mistake as I was writing beats the way you write songs for bands and they just didn't work out. After watching a video where you broke down how to make beats with space for the vocalist I found myself chopping up my original attempts. I swear man you do justice to the community. you taught me to think outside the box and have given me the ability to create and work from an informed point of view. From how to shop beats to how to interact with other producers and industry you have my my adventures in LA fruitful much love and keep dropping knowledge on us thank you Pain
@chevotv5663
@chevotv5663 Жыл бұрын
Bro I think I’ve been watching his stuff since 2010. I learned the basics of recording with his Acid Pro tutorials and now I’ve recorded and produced some of the dopest tracks I’d ever dreamed I could, my audio production is amazing because of him
@TheNinja94a
@TheNinja94a 11 ай бұрын
This is what I don't get. At the bottom of one of the top comments from someone saying they studied intellectual property law is a painfully long essay I wrote to someone who claims sampling is "stealing", but I'm someone who plays instruments and samples, and I can easily say the transformation process is what makes it much different. To summarize, it's like making a collage, you put in work to make your own piece with its own meaning, but the medium you use happens to use previous creations from other people. Debating about permission is another conversation, saying it's "effortless" or insinuating that it's like taking a painting and saying you made it is another.
@chadoworld
@chadoworld Жыл бұрын
Definitely a convo that continously needs to be had and you my G are at the forefront in my opinion of keeping the community properly educated! Salute!
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@am_ess
@am_ess Жыл бұрын
Ignorance is so loud and entertaining. We appreciate you Pain... you're doing us a huge service by spreading knowledge. Much Love G
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽
@DonaId_J_Trump
@DonaId_J_Trump Жыл бұрын
I sample all the time, but if tomorrow we could never sample again I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Learning how to write and arrange a song from scratch is a priceless skill set.
@theredhall-thisisfootball
@theredhall-thisisfootball Жыл бұрын
That's something you need to know before sampling...
@jonesconrad1
@jonesconrad1 Жыл бұрын
@@theredhall-thisisfootball its something you need to know to sample properly.
@OfoeNelson
@OfoeNelson Жыл бұрын
Problem is writing from scratch and then it ends up sounding exactly like something that's already released
@sawtoothiandi
@sawtoothiandi Жыл бұрын
flood them with sampledelia...on the way down low..
@haruyasumi616
@haruyasumi616 Жыл бұрын
in theory. but in practice, a lot of people are just putting music together like it's lego these days. Most of my music is made with vsti, but i get people ask me what samples i use or where i get loops from because they just assume that's how music is made now.
@benweidner1
@benweidner1 Жыл бұрын
we should ALL keep sampling and post it constantly, overwhelm the system
@DhajeaDaMfGoddess
@DhajeaDaMfGoddess Жыл бұрын
THIS
@morten1
@morten1 3 ай бұрын
hehe overwhelm their bank accounts
@marlonbrown5763
@marlonbrown5763 Жыл бұрын
Time for all producers and musicians to come together.
@thevoiceofthelost
@thevoiceofthelost 8 ай бұрын
Musicians union when?
@shapeshiftersmediagroup
@shapeshiftersmediagroup Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for explaining this issue so well. I've been involved in a lot of recording contracts over the years, I'm a vocalist with a decent mid-teir-level following but spend a lot of time hidden as an annonymous ghost-producer on this account to avoid the drama...but because I'm deep into the producer side of the music realm, I often find myself explaining this very issue to A LOT of other producers and artists and having to tip-toe around it myself. I can speak from experience that you are spot on in your perspective here. And things are only going to get worse, with the removal of human interpretation, enter A.I. and sync tech to replace. IMO, the safest bet is just to approach the creation of music with a clean slate and open mind, whildst making your best attempt to be as original as possible each time you create. Honestly, the software and hardware these days is so advanced, that one can make insanely dynamic loops for themselves, that could suffice as a sample-level composition. Thanks for another great vid Pain.
@shine_uno
@shine_uno Жыл бұрын
thank for all this info!!
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 Жыл бұрын
You're not anti sampling bro you're just spreading the knowledge about sampling and the business side of it. Me personally I would use tracklib to clear the samples that I use or I would just use one shots from sample packs and just make my own melodies off it.
@marv6424
@marv6424 Жыл бұрын
This indeed is frightening. If content id gets hit on these short things, what happens to any kind of electronic instrument, many of these use samples to generate the sound...
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@spitatainment
@spitatainment Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@dancemusicorganisation
@dancemusicorganisation Жыл бұрын
Those sounds are royalty free and in the public domain, you need to learn the difference. The same with copyright vs publishing and what is known as adaptation.
@tylon2999
@tylon2999 Жыл бұрын
From what I understand presets patches etc. are royalty free.
@TheUnfilteredOpinion
@TheUnfilteredOpinion Жыл бұрын
​@@tylon2999you guys are missing the point. Of those samples are royalty free....... As of now. The point he is making is that now they have a way to source and find the exact sample you used and where it came from. It had to be royalty free, how else could they identify the track especially if I format it different times and change the name file and file type. Now they have a full blown way to detect any sample they need regardless.
@Spacetradr
@Spacetradr Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for educating people on this man you a real one fr. Too many people out here thinking they slick and it's usually the people that are trying to do things right that pay the price for it.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@bigpapawavy
@bigpapawavy Жыл бұрын
Tbh you can’t do things the “right way” you gotta do what gets you the best results.
@Spacetradr
@Spacetradr Жыл бұрын
@@bigpapawavy Damn, you've successfully managed to describe the biggest problem in this world today in one sentence. Results over morals. Funniest thing is it's always people with this mindset who complain the hardest when it's time to pay the price for their actions. This is the same exact mindset that makes all these females start an only fans account these days. "Idgaf i'm getting paid right?". Nahh fam, trust me you'll regret it one day, especially if you make a conscious choice to do so.
@bigpapawavy
@bigpapawavy Жыл бұрын
@@Spacetradr morals lol you do realize morals are different person to person and area by area. You are the type to complain, not me. Im the type of person to make the best out of my situation while youre the type to complain that somebody did you wrong because they dont believe in what you believe in like a baby. And then you started talking about females and onlyfans on a music post. Thats how I know you look for shit to complain about. Have fun
@mmoore4456
@mmoore4456 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work in explaining a complex situation. Thanks much!
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@the_yungchubbz
@the_yungchubbz 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Pain! I’ll keep this in mind when I get back to making music! Appreciate the knowledge base you share with your audience! ✊🏾
@bobbymobetta
@bobbymobetta Жыл бұрын
Yeah man, BIG, ALL-DAY type ups for this type of content. Explained but not OVER-explained... and my dude is RIGHT on the money with this stuff. I went through a little Arts & Tech school 2 year program that taught me a TON about recording, back in the 2000s before EVERYBODY did it from home.. but some of the best classes we had there? Record Label Operations sec I and II were taught by one of the partners of the Police's manager. He would tell us crazy shit about being on tour in the 80s.. but even then he was telling us "sampling, if I teach you nothing else, I need to teach NOT to screw yourself over if you choose to do it!" Same as you, he didn't tell us don't, but don't get it twisted there's no 'sample safe' minimum amount of something you can use, I don't care what anyone tells you! And everyone out there- tell your people too! Put em on to the video, but educate your friends! Sampled? Clear it. Re-recorded? Not mechanical, it's called a "SYNC LICENSE" and you need to... you guessed it: Clear it!
@vancenichols9490
@vancenichols9490 Жыл бұрын
Thorough and VERY insightful! Thanks!!!
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jtjwhite
@jtjwhite Жыл бұрын
Good info. Learned a few things.
@Dronerebel
@Dronerebel Жыл бұрын
I would much rather pay the creators of music than a label.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work that way
@Dronerebel
@Dronerebel Жыл бұрын
@@DJPain1Sorry, I meant I liked your example of re-recording a sample and paying to license the composition. I know I have to pay, but I would rather my money go to the artists wherever possible. Great video, btw. Very clear and informative.
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 Жыл бұрын
Another well explained video delving into the world of why I don't buy sample packs or try to sell my own samples. The internet is loaded with lawsuits waiting to happen lol. I do enjoy your breakdowns of how the business works. Great video as always brother! Cheers 🔥👊🧡👍🔥
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Thesamplelab is legitimate and there are many other sites that aren’t full of dangerous content.
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 Жыл бұрын
@@DJPain1 💯% good to know 🤘
@Nickpetronio
@Nickpetronio Жыл бұрын
@@DJPain1 Tracklib is another one
@6semper
@6semper Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up
@MySCSStory
@MySCSStory Жыл бұрын
Great information bruh, I didn’t know some of these things and the other 1/2 is frightening af
@broussardbeats
@broussardbeats Жыл бұрын
My only concern is the misidentifying of a track thinking it's a sample from a song. This sample detection software might not be flawless. The days of being secretive about a sample is over 😂
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
No technology is flawless, but their mistakes have consequences for all of us
@H_D_P
@H_D_P Жыл бұрын
Sampling music is paying homage to artist. I give people their flowers through my beats. I’ve sent them to many known artists and got nothing but love. I appreciate the knowledge behind sampling bro, because it is important to know the law behind it. But it’s therapeutic for me. #HandsDown
@tumishomogano1574
@tumishomogano1574 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@ohmanmusic997
@ohmanmusic997 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wisdom!!
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Anytime
@jono_young_music
@jono_young_music Жыл бұрын
Priceless info mate thank you, sorry you’re going through it! ☹️
@adamreaperbeatswc
@adamreaperbeatswc Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS SHAZAM LOOPS
@aslanbc
@aslanbc Жыл бұрын
It's funny how DJ's can play out any track they want in the club and make their entire living off of other peoples music. But when someone actually does something interesting and creative using someones pre-existing music, then the sample police come out in full force
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Clubs are supposed to pay out performance royalties to the PROs, so same rules apply
@KCBeck
@KCBeck Ай бұрын
They are supposed for buy bulk license CD’s they are 100$ for 10 songs
@grantasticbeats
@grantasticbeats Жыл бұрын
Always appreciate these vids Pain! The chain lookin clean too 💎💎💎
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@swanjaymusic
@swanjaymusic Жыл бұрын
Hey pain that was so good info you shared thanks. Keep sharing that knowlege bro...
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Always
@jacobgrab7900
@jacobgrab7900 Жыл бұрын
15:48 That reminds me when people thought DJ MUGGS used horse sample from "Good Guys Only Win in the Movies'' by Mel and Tim in Cypress Hill's 'Insane in the brain' song but DJ MUGGS refuted that sample. He said it's just high pitched blues guitar runned through guitar AMPs but he also admitted that horse sample sounds almost same. Crazy
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@novarobotslofi6596
@novarobotslofi6596 Жыл бұрын
And this is exactly why i stopped sampling a while ago. I get the point was to educate & not scare people away from sampling but, since i know how to play some instruments i decided this was a headache i didn’t want to deal with. Now i just sample myself lol.
@user-ff1ez5sy5h
@user-ff1ez5sy5h Жыл бұрын
I feel you. And that's good. The even more concerning issue for those like you is when something you create & play is deemed by a well-financed copyright owner to be their work and part of their "proof" is a musicologist & sample detecting software. How? - let's say a guitar riff u played is vaguely similar to 1 of their song ...which uv never heard. Or the tone of the guitar is very similar even tho only 1 pitch is the same. Imo that's the craziest & most concerning part of this video.
@ishmael2586
@ishmael2586 Жыл бұрын
Not even royalty free splice shit?
@anubyzpublishing749
@anubyzpublishing749 Жыл бұрын
Peace, thanks 4 da info: stay up, one
@whomag
@whomag Жыл бұрын
awesome breakdown!
@MetaLightBeing
@MetaLightBeing Жыл бұрын
I got into making beats because of sample producers, I had to relearn beat making without it, it's easy sometimes but overall always feels like something is missing
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, I felt that way for years
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
This is why i been telling artists for 8 years now to stop using loops and samples PERIOD. Theres a learning curve that u haven’t even introduced yourself to yet and u can easily fall 10yrs behind by not understanding music theory and instrumentation.
@eternal5024
@eternal5024 Жыл бұрын
@@josephschmizzo1595 this is the key to this problem. Become a musician and you’ll never want to sample again. I love this new AI technology, this is a sign that organic music made from the heart will flourishing again when people start making original music again, while also paying the artists who were not paid from people who sampled their music without paying.
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
@@eternal5024 You’re 1000% correct, oddly the YT producer community hates being told to learn how to “make” music so don’t mention the forbidden phrase “music theory” or the word “instrument” on any of these channels unless u wna b attacked by hundreds of 15 yr olds in tye dye hoodies. Theres also about to be huge lawsuits that are gna shake up the music world and one of them is George Clinton who’s owed billions by labels.
@lugebeatzz8747
@lugebeatzz8747 Жыл бұрын
@@eternal5024 the reason why past music was rich is because the projects were created by a group of musicians.... Nowadays it's about individuality... How can I get more money from my art , These systems are not created to push people to become creative... They're created to milk the musicians.... Being able to make music from scratch is helpful to a producer/artist that I agree
@darmarvislee4320
@darmarvislee4320 Жыл бұрын
Also I think if it's possible we could go back to selling out of the trunks of our cars like the 90's except this time it won't be CD's it could be jump drives or San disk😅😅😂😂
@SCORCCiO-replays-clearances
@SCORCCiO-replays-clearances 11 ай бұрын
An extremely comprehensive and balanced guide to sampling, replaying samples, publishing clearance. Your real-world scenarios are golden. Thank you! SCORCCiO Replays + Clearances
@therealdeal26
@therealdeal26 Жыл бұрын
You are real asF man!!!! Keeping us informed thank you
@Poinsetteflimz_skate
@Poinsetteflimz_skate Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥 good topic and tips
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
thank you for watching
@f0kxi
@f0kxi Жыл бұрын
What about VST Synths, just by being put in a recording they become samples. Does that make presets copyrighted? What if you use a popular synthetic guitar and amp simulation on the default setting and hit a common note or chord?
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille Жыл бұрын
No, those things cannot be copyrighted. A VST synth or any other synth or instrument isn't becoming a sample : its *used* to make music that *can* be sampled.
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
Its crazy to me that as many times as you talk about this people still respond with "thats why i dont sample" as if they didnt hear cleared samples, original works,licenesed samples etc still get falsely flagged
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
It’s so boring
@Solodolo84
@Solodolo84 Жыл бұрын
its no use trying to talk to them types. they deny the facts even if it laid out clearly.
@haruyasumi616
@haruyasumi616 Жыл бұрын
yeah. but if something is falsely flagged, you can potentially prove it. if something is flagged correctly you have no choice but to go with it. i had a thing on youtube flagged because it said the copyright was owned.... by me. and facebook tried to take down a video of something i was working on until i appealed it. a big part of why i've mostly moved away from samples (i still use breakbeats if i make jungle, or heavily bitcrushed ones-which i can gaurantee that can't be recognised even digitally if i make powernoise. and i do use film samples a lot still) is because i'd rather make my own stuff than go through the legalities of samples, and absolutely can't afford to pay for samples when i'm only making pennies in downloads anyway.
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
@@haruyasumi616 no you cant always prove it and what does that have to do with what i said anyway
@dricjackson4902
@dricjackson4902 Жыл бұрын
Good looking outPain!
@localhost4460
@localhost4460 Жыл бұрын
I generally don't use samples outside of my Mellotron Micro (which, in the manual, made it VERY clear that there were non-audible fingerprints on every sample which identified who bought the actual mellotron; registration is required)
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
"non-audible" 🤨 I hope it's not embedding proprietary metadata in your art after you already paid them…
@localhost4460
@localhost4460 Жыл бұрын
@@crnkmnky that is roughly my understanding? My impression is that it is to prevent people simply resampling the instrument after purchase and selling the sample packs. Sounds lovely ultimately, but it's maybe a point of contention for others who go to use the instrument.
@apexone5502
@apexone5502 Жыл бұрын
I always say the Mellotron (or Mellotron sounds found in plugins) is perfect for Hip Hop composers who would rather play their own compositions but still have that sampled sound and feel they're looking for.
@BufoOnTheBeat
@BufoOnTheBeat Жыл бұрын
I see u flossin w ur new 💎 chain P 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
I really like how it looks
@AKSourGod
@AKSourGod Жыл бұрын
Well damn explained good sir! Pain Chain looking smooth 💯💪🏾
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽
@BikJTube
@BikJTube 11 ай бұрын
I'm not stopping!
@enlightenmenttv2287
@enlightenmenttv2287 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the intention, this shit is discouraging as it is informative. What I love most about sampling is the cultural aesthetic. Sure it helps to enrich my sound, since I'm not a formally trained musician, but I have no problem creating my own compositions. But I really love reworking an old record from another genre to make it hip-hop, that's the foundation. That's what I fell in love with. And that's whether it's slapping more drums on a dope break loop, or doing more creative chopping/rearranging. But we all wanna get paid of course, and who really wants to deal with all this bullshit? 🙄
@TheTeamYDKChannel
@TheTeamYDKChannel Жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part, but sampling isn't the foundation. Friends, My Adidas, Its Yours etc were all sample free early hip hop classics. Its a huge part but great hip hop can be made without it
@enlightenmenttv2287
@enlightenmenttv2287 Жыл бұрын
@Team YDK Rapper's Delight is the first commercially released Hip Hop record, and The Breaks by Curtis Blow also pre dates those records you mentioned. Both of those are straight looped samples of disco records.
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 Жыл бұрын
Pain, i’m still really hoping to hear your 2 cents on tracklib. Unfortunately i definitely have some unreleased beats that will require a lot of legwork if i want to release it but many i’m building are around tracklib samples. Saving money to pay the fees oh them a few at a time and launch my beatstars.
@painone2639
@painone2639 Жыл бұрын
Please watch my interview with the owners of Tracklib.
@AustinMichaelCanada
@AustinMichaelCanada Жыл бұрын
Subbed after watching a 2nd video. Great content dude!
@twooharmony2000
@twooharmony2000 Жыл бұрын
Your comments seem informational, sincere, and objective barring experience. Good guy.-Ernie Moore Jr
@SwishMajor
@SwishMajor Жыл бұрын
hey, pain. can I make short clips of this and upload them as shorts?
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Yes but please share them with me
@CHR0NIAC
@CHR0NIAC Жыл бұрын
3:26 and this ruins it for EVERYONE. I made a sample that Dillygotitbumpin used this week and an artist left a comment asking if they would have clearance issues if they leased the beat... I shouldn't be penalized by shady business practices of other producers and the consumer shouldn't have to second guess everything just because my work sounds authentic.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah 🤦🏽
@joselarios2571
@joselarios2571 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for Sharing... Humble Magnificent
@HardtoHandleThisFella
@HardtoHandleThisFella 11 ай бұрын
I just discovered this channel bro. Gratefully Subscribed
@davidcache
@davidcache Жыл бұрын
Sample recreation is a niche I'm glad to fill. 😂
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
True
@PepijnHoekstra
@PepijnHoekstra Жыл бұрын
How is it that mid journey, for example gets to steal “samples” from millions of visual artists, but for musician it’s gettin harder and harder? I believe that a lawsuit needs to take place where this comparison is fairly tackled
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
The laws haven’t caught up with the technology. Watch, it’s coming.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
Stability AI is already being sued…
@GuyBeatz
@GuyBeatz Жыл бұрын
I’ve learned a lot from you bro! And that chain 🔥 by the way
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you bro
@daquetreed5522
@daquetreed5522 Жыл бұрын
Good shit bro
@uzi_Justice
@uzi_Justice Жыл бұрын
I released a album over ten years ago full of uncleared samples, which just blew up over the pandemic. isn't there a statue of limitations on making a copyright claim or am I screwed?
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
Disney keeps getting Congress to extend copyright, so they can hold onto their 🐭 Mouse. So, no. Anyway, if your infringing product is still being distributed, they should still have a case against you. *but I Am Not A Lawyer…*
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
Ur screwed bro
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
3 years from discovery of the violation so no your not safe
@uzi_Justice
@uzi_Justice Жыл бұрын
@@sontwisted I've been looking into this and your right if you sampled a song owned in the USA, but it's different in other countries. if the sample is owed in the UK you only have six years from the date I released my song to claim against me.
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
@@uzi_Justice is it a uk sample?
@iomegaprime2.087
@iomegaprime2.087 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that you ALWAYS show receipts and people STILL try to discredit your knowledge of the business.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Some people actually hate me so much they’ll shoot themselves in the foot to spite me
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
Hes done a complete flip flop on this issue though…. It was obvious that everybody should have stopped sampling like a decade ago.
@Statuslock
@Statuslock Жыл бұрын
@@josephschmizzo1595 Can you really blame people who was trying to engage in a culture when they were young and impressionable? Almost Like telling someone dont be a part of gang culture but when they were growing up the gang was the only one looking out for that person that even their parents neglected. It is hard, I am sure you are aware hence why you are saying what you say lol I dont think Pain is flip flopping. He never switched his stance. Which is BECAREFUL when sampling. He ALWAYS said this for years.
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
@@Statuslock no…he switched his stance, im the one who had the extensive back and forth w him in regard to this topic…i had the conversation lol not you. He was wrong, its cool, he can move on but a fact is a fact.
@Statuslock
@Statuslock Жыл бұрын
@@josephschmizzo1595 What stance did he switch?
@Dizzy808
@Dizzy808 Жыл бұрын
thank you very much for this information it makes sense when you break down the fact these samples contains various instruments played by various musicians on top of the major label owning the masters
@Shakedown2u2
@Shakedown2u2 Жыл бұрын
GOOD INFO BRO....SALUTE
@DALOWRECORDZ
@DALOWRECORDZ Жыл бұрын
Wow this sampling issue has really advanced and seems to be continuing to be a serious problem for non instrument producers
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Plenty producers who are musically inclined sample.
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
Its not a sampling issue its a content id issue
@DALOWRECORDZ
@DALOWRECORDZ Жыл бұрын
@Sontwisted my bad, bro. that's what I meant to say, sampling content issue
@yaboiavery5986
@yaboiavery5986 Жыл бұрын
AI ruining art related jobs speedrun
@GhostEntertainmentMusic
@GhostEntertainmentMusic Жыл бұрын
good stuff king 💯
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@sectiondrecords4580
@sectiondrecords4580 Жыл бұрын
Great channel! Thanks. 30 years ago I had an album accepted by Capitol. A Korg sound designer heard part of it through my A&R guy and said I used one of his unreleased sounds for the M1. Korg sent him to my studio to confirm it was his. Now, I composed, arranged and played along with my band, the album using no Korg devices. He actually came to my studio and went home with egg on his face. Was a weird experience. These days I use almost exclusively (like then) my own composed beats and samples but it sounds like I may still have to prove my originality someday if I quit just doing music as a hobby.
@Ghost_Text
@Ghost_Text Жыл бұрын
Sounds even worse. Because the next meta for copystriking past even hip hop is the george harrison standard. But youtubes entire content ID history I heard has been a minefield of false and legit strikes for even non sampled material. I wonder how this detection works on vsts like addictive drums or even other ai like emergent drums. Because a person could still create funky chords and riffs themselves, but synthesizer drum synthesis....kinda tough to make funky drums completely from synth presets and patches.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, that’s why it’s so terrifying
@liquidmetalslime9
@liquidmetalslime9 Жыл бұрын
What is the George Harrison standard, what did he do? I'm not familiar. Did he do something crazy with copyright after he left the Beatles?
@Ghost_Text
@Ghost_Text Жыл бұрын
@@liquidmetalslime9 his solo record "My Sweet Lord." He got sued for unconscious unintentional copyright infringement for the notation being similar to The Chiffons "He's so fine." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9GchLihzK20aKM.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9GchLihzK20aKM.html
@BboyGetSome
@BboyGetSome Жыл бұрын
Drake samples the shit out (not just sample but copy word for word) of everyone's music and doesn't get in trouble for any of it.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
Drake can afford to pay first, instead of waiting for a lawsuit?
@Studio987Rec
@Studio987Rec Жыл бұрын
There are sample clearance agents on drake's speed dial. Don't compare.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
He had to pay Rappin 4Tay for this very thing. So he has gotten in trouble for it. Who else has taken him to court for this?
@rowlexxflowz7825
@rowlexxflowz7825 Жыл бұрын
Bro...is drake...he's basically a billionaire at this point, he can afford it.
@skibiditoiletbrainrot_
@skibiditoiletbrainrot_ 11 ай бұрын
He’s a multi millionaire huge artist who has sample clearers at dispense. That’s like comparing a pebble to everest
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 Жыл бұрын
I’ve worked as a signed artist the last decade (out of contract last month). Every word this man says on copyright, labels, recoupment etc is spot on. I never worked with samples, outside of royalty free stuff like sound effects, sample based virtual instruments: the safe stuff. Now I make samples for people. Having to clear samples is a losing game, sadly.
@ScantlessBeatz
@ScantlessBeatz Жыл бұрын
Love the chart vus sometimes I still get a lil lost on the details of everything.
@dja.selekta
@dja.selekta Жыл бұрын
Tracklib clearance not enough?
@AKSourGod
@AKSourGod Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Pain sampled that Willie Hutch song wayyyyy before Tracklib was a thought. But yeah, I would like to hear people's whole process on tracklib from sampling to clearing.
@chinbeats6551
@chinbeats6551 Жыл бұрын
Tracklib exists so that you don't have to go through the headache of sample clearance.
@Pauxthabeatmaker
@Pauxthabeatmaker Жыл бұрын
I go to tracklib then am save
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Willie hutch’s catalog is on tracklib?
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
It doesnt solve anything
@prod.bykhanjii2636
@prod.bykhanjii2636 Жыл бұрын
Good thing I learned to make my own samples because something told me that they would start to crack down on samples. To be quite frank I think sampling in this day and age can be a bit lazy and doesn't sound like my material so I'd rather just make my own melodies anyway
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
Yup, the days of calling urself a “producer” or a “musician” when all u can do is loop samples and place drums to them is over…
@prod.bykhanjii2636
@prod.bykhanjii2636 Жыл бұрын
@Joseph Schmizzo I liked to consider them just beat makers lol💀💀💀
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын
@@prod.bykhanjii2636 true 😂
@1337murk
@1337murk Жыл бұрын
​@@josephschmizzo1595'Just placing drums over everything' lol. That is not what Hi Tek, Dilla, Preem, RJD2 or any of the great sample based beat makers do lol. Good sample based beats require more creativity than writing from scratch does.. more hurdles to work around, less to do it with, yet they're making masterpieces. Your comment let's me know that you're not skilled enough to understand what they do and how it is skilled
@fyhlox2
@fyhlox2 Жыл бұрын
​@@1337murk 👍🏾
@bignose3639
@bignose3639 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@VIRALBEATS360
@VIRALBEATS360 Жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of how intellectual property is suppressing creativity. With the current state of affairs, the powers that be are trying to make it impossible to sample. Think about what that means for an industry that has largely been kept afloat, by the very same genre, they are attempting to eliminate. Clearances have the ability to shut down an entire song, whether it be beforehand, or after the fact. If it becomes impossible to obtain clearances, that is a lot of music not being made. What are they going to do next, outlaw samplers? I'll take it a step further; What happens when they decide to pull every song that has ever been sampled, and completely restructure copyright law with A.I? All it takes is legislation. We are definitely in need of a producer's lobbying group. By the time we organized one, it will be too late...
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
The people lobbying against our interests are multi-billionaires
@VIRALBEATS360
@VIRALBEATS360 Жыл бұрын
@@DJPain1 Facts. We are completely outmatched, in that regard.
@eternal5024
@eternal5024 Жыл бұрын
This is how intellectual property protects creators of a music composition. Only in music do people think it’s should be legal to profit from someone else’s work.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
@@eternal5024 True, but borrowing riffs has always been part of the evolution and sharing of music. The business becomes more litigious every year. Lawsuits and song detection technologies are restraining the natural interchange between musicians, even if sampling is completely off of the table. These tools seem to protect those who can _afford_ to wield them.
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with the video
@victormartins7867
@victormartins7867 Жыл бұрын
hip hop has been transgressive from the go. just as you're not supposed to do graffiti on people's properties, you're not supposed to sample other people's music. i get where you're coming from but I hope people who are 25 and under won't be discouraged by this.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Who is discouraging anybody? And I’ve been arrested for graffiti almost as many times as I’ve filled out a sample/session form.
@victormartins7867
@victormartins7867 Жыл бұрын
@@DJPain1 I'm not saying you're discouraging anyone, i just hope younger people don't get discouraged by the current state of things. as for the grafitti thing, I wasn't implying you're not a real hip hop head lol I just used it to solidify my statement about hip-hop being transgressive from the start.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
@@victormartins7867 I didn't think you were implying anything, I'm just agreeing with the spirit of your comment and wanted to plant myself firmly on that side of the debate
@victormartins7867
@victormartins7867 Жыл бұрын
@@DJPain1 my bad, text is tricky cause intentions are up to interpretation. appreciate your work.
@ooothatslaps
@ooothatslaps Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, bro
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it
@Bass_Levelz
@Bass_Levelz Жыл бұрын
This is really good insight. Not many people are informing the masses about this.
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a sexy topic
@chinbeats6551
@chinbeats6551 Жыл бұрын
Hip hop is dead. It's safe to say it now.
@louisc.
@louisc. Жыл бұрын
In what sense?
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
But the death of dj’ing, graffiti, breaking, Kay slay dying and the culture allowing Neo nazi rappers into the space didn’t do it?
@kltz78
@kltz78 Жыл бұрын
Anyone that says this wasn’t living it to begin with. Nonsense!
@JPerryBeats
@JPerryBeats Жыл бұрын
Nothing has changed bro it’s just that hiphop used to not be purely about making money so ppl didn’t care what sample they used. Now we care cuz we’ve seen how much money people lost from sampling
@IknowMoreThanYou
@IknowMoreThanYou Жыл бұрын
​@@DJPain1 graf still alive and well sir
@Dr.G.Productions
@Dr.G.Productions Жыл бұрын
Dope chain pain💥💥
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MoveMakersny
@MoveMakersny Жыл бұрын
Excellent information
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@allmyvoicesmusic
@allmyvoicesmusic 4 ай бұрын
This video is a must watch for music producers.
@jinnvenus4183
@jinnvenus4183 Жыл бұрын
I need to watch more of these videos .
@nurd_afrikhan
@nurd_afrikhan Жыл бұрын
its time like these i give thanks for that kit you gave us (Clearance Guaranteed)
@sontwisted
@sontwisted Жыл бұрын
Its not though
@Anne-bf2fb
@Anne-bf2fb Жыл бұрын
I wanted to start sampling obscure rock music into beats so ty for your insight
@korniceman3000
@korniceman3000 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for the consistent gems you're posting. The point by point breakdown is a masterclass every producer/beatmaker needs to learn and memorize so they don't screw over other composers. Another amazing and very important discussion that more producers need to address. I'm just wondering what copyright protections people who upload original music and compositions to Yt or some streaming service have if they did not file a copyright for sound recording or performing arts given how expensive it is these days. Is there any advice you could please share regarding sending out loops to other producers/beatmakers whether via email or some collective like artistconnect on how you could properly protect yourself from copyright infringement? We all know there are going to be unscrupulous people who will sample the work of others and not give credit and since the burden of proof lies with the claimant, it will be an uphill battle especially when facing a well known producer or major label. (Like the pvlace gunboi dispute and Black Eyed peas stealing songs for Boom Boom Pow and I Got A feeling)
@producerman10030
@producerman10030 Жыл бұрын
That's why Ruff Ryders used to hire me. To create samples that sound like the original but are different compositionally.
@danielbadideashaver4894
@danielbadideashaver4894 Жыл бұрын
This could actually be exciting for the underground music movement. Give us a real reason to have to dig again.
@damianedwards8827
@damianedwards8827 Жыл бұрын
I remember u from back in the day. I was learning that program called sony ACID. Great content bro. Very tela😅and real
@JayInTheLab1989
@JayInTheLab1989 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how much you have to break stuff down for people, I’m new to producing and sampling but it really didn’t take me long to find out the laws and where I stood, always great information in your videos though and always learn something I didn’t know. Also it’s mental how many people flip out and lose their minds from what you say and are too stupid to realise that you’re really trying to help. A lot of smooth brains about these days 😂 keep up the good work pain you’re a legend 👍🏻
@DJPain1
@DJPain1 Жыл бұрын
I break it down and some are still angry about it. Oh well, they’re not my target audience.
@LawderOfficial
@LawderOfficial 10 ай бұрын
you directing me to dj pasta, as a big daft punk fan, has made this one of the rarest moments on youtube for me being absolutely amazed. waw
@dailyitesbeats2015
@dailyitesbeats2015 Жыл бұрын
It's times like this, I feel glad and blessed that I learned music theory before I learnt the tech. I don't ever need no samples and now i'm extra glad about that fact. Thanks for the Video DJ Pain 1!
@CITYOFSHOOTERS
@CITYOFSHOOTERS Жыл бұрын
Music theory is not actual music theory but rather old Eurocentric standards but theory of music as we know it today
@dailyitesbeats2015
@dailyitesbeats2015 Жыл бұрын
@@CITYOFSHOOTERS lol thats normally what ppl who dont know music theory say.
@CITYOFSHOOTERS
@CITYOFSHOOTERS Жыл бұрын
@@dailyitesbeats2015 I studied it it’s based on classical music aka European symphony 😂 I see you have no real rebuttal 🤔 why was it a white person who taught me that then ?
@dailyitesbeats2015
@dailyitesbeats2015 Жыл бұрын
@@CITYOFSHOOTERS rebuttle? What were you accusing me of? I mean wasn’t Mozart black? Anyway I stand by what I said mate. I can make melodies and I know theory well enough I don’t need to rely on samples and that is good for me, especially based on the info in this video. ✌🏽
@southoftheborderr_
@southoftheborderr_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks 4 keeping it real 🫡
@Soundguydan
@Soundguydan Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@GLUGER
@GLUGER Жыл бұрын
Bro bro! YOU are so absolutely correct! It's Amazing that a million+ viewers that are "ARTISTS/PRODUCERS" in the business have not seen this!?🤔
@dantebourquin2050
@dantebourquin2050 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I've been freestyling for 8 years, and writing raps for 5, I just started taking things seriously, built a producing studio and have been writting raps heavily, and will be starting an independent career, all of these licensing implications and legal details of the industry I have a feeling will save my ass down the road. As it stands, using samples for promotional drivers seams like still a good idea, but for mixtapes it seams that legal ownership is the golden path to actually getting paid for your shit and not ripped off like every other schmuck that gets conned by the industry goons lol.
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