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Sampler trick: Steve Reich/William Basinski style phase shifting loops (Digitakt/Model Samples)
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Күн бұрынThis video is Part 1 in a series about Generative Music.
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This video explains a neat little sampler trick that lets you create music by ignoring a sampler’s sequencer.
In the early 60’s groundbreaking composer Steve Reich (www.stevereich...) pioneered the technique of using different length tape loops (and later musical patterns) in composition. The idea is that two short loops, either identical but one slightly shorter than the other, or completely different, drift in and out of phase to create textures, patterns and rhythms that weren’t there before. This tape loop technique is used by William Basisnki ( • William Basinski - Cas... ) to create wonderful sonic soundscapes, and in the lovely “Walkman Symphony” by Amulets ( • AMBIENT WALKMAN SYMPHO... ). Also check out more multi-tape ambience from Hainbach: • C45 #1 | Lo-Fi Ambient...
In this video I replicate the experience digitally by using a little trick which ignores the sequencer on modern day samplers, in order to create similar multi-length loop textures and patterns.
It turns out some samplers (like Elektron Digitakt and Model:Samples shown in this video) will let sample-loops play continuously, regardless of whether the sequencer is active or not . As long as you DON’T use the built-in sequencer to retrigger the samples, and you create different length loops, the samples will loop in and out of phase with each other and recreate the phasing tape loop experience quite nicely. In these particular samplers, all the effects and LFOs are still fully functional despite the sequencer not running, so you can use them while your loops are running.
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
0:50 The first loop
1:25 Phased 2nd loop
2:10 Adding texture
2:30 Adding an LFO
3:50 More loops...
4:00 Playing with levels
4:45 Adding effects
5:25 Rhythmic phasing
7:35 More ideas
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@allrain 4 жыл бұрын
Man this is mega. You're like a huge combination of an inspiring artist, a skilled musician, and a proficient teacher. Thank you!!
@Ian-gw2vx 3 жыл бұрын
With a HUGE bank account!
@kenfusion 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said . I will second this . But only after lowering it an Octave, and changing the stop and start point . Excellent video .
@RajaSandhu 5 жыл бұрын
I had one day left on my Digitakt 30 day trial from the music shop, so I packed everything back up nicely, was on my way to go return it when I saw this video open on a browser tab and hit play with the box in hand. Happy to say I am doing my second unboxing of the Digitakt and will keep it, thanks to you.
@DK-qe6uo 3 жыл бұрын
It’s insane to me how much you know intimately about every device you share on this channel. I’ve learned so much thank you!
@northerncatto 5 жыл бұрын
That first piano loop reminds me of the first track on Music for Airports. Good, simple technique. Thanks!
@benmironmd 5 жыл бұрын
NorthernCat definitely hear that
@LutraSound 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Reich - Piano Phase
@LouisSerieusement 5 жыл бұрын
yeah same here, I took so much nap over music for airport XD love Eno
@cdotburg 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking aisatsana by aphex twin
@hereisacomment4u 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@red13emerald 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea! This also works on the Volca Sample and the OP-Z. On the volca, you have to play a sample, hold it and only then set the decay to 127 to get infinite decay. And Loop has to be on, of course. On the OP-Z, holding the track button and turning the blue dial all the way up will make sure a note is held once played, and turning the green dial to 3 will enable looping on sample tracks.
@red13emerald 5 жыл бұрын
ElLocoArtaud no, you use the same sample in two slots, but in each slot you set slightly different speed or length
@marcelinesnodgrass1095 5 жыл бұрын
does this work on the op-1 or just the opz
@red13emerald 5 жыл бұрын
Devin Snodgrass yes, the OP1 can kinda do this as well. In the drum sampler, set two notes to have the same parameters (in point, pitch etc.) except for the out point and voila. I don’t know how one could drone properly, I don’t have an op1.
@Lobbogurke 5 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks I will try that! It's always nice to get more out of the voclas
@iqi616 4 жыл бұрын
@@red13emerald thanks for this tip
@jonaseggen2230 4 жыл бұрын
I heard several, (8?) pianos play a piece by Steve Reich once, where they did this out of phase thing. Really impressive that they manage to play the "wrong" speed right for, I don't know, ages. Wizardry basically. What was extra fun though was the noise from the traffic outside that every now and then came through adding a tiny bit of John Cage, and then in the huge windows we could se warped and mirrored reflections of the citylife that looked like the kind of arty filming that you can find in documentaries about minimalists and such from that time.
@RichardOlpin 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Ziv. As is usually the case with your videos, this opened my eyes to something I'd never have thought of on the Digitakt. If I end up pulling an all-nighter off down an ambient rabbit hole tonight it's all your fault!
@loopop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I take fully responsibility for the ensuing pleasure in doing so ;)
@cesarperez-cardenas97 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Digitakt. I was so frustrated with it at first, but got the hang of it little by little; now I LOVE it. Thanks for the video and ideas!
@soundlab7755 4 жыл бұрын
The rhythmic phasing part is amazing! It sounds so good and the bass complements it so nicely. I'm definitely going to play around with this technique.
@cloudrun654 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, really great sounds in this video.
@simonlittlebass 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to that ambient piano loop all day 😌
@juriszemitis3435 5 жыл бұрын
On digitakt you can use sequencer while looping. If you use trig condition 1st - for loop track, use other as regular if you want to. And thanks for all your work!!!
@solongyouth 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tip.
@alpenjon 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@johncaccioppo1142 4 жыл бұрын
This is funny, I've been recommended this video for almost a year and only got around to watching it because you mentioned it in the last video. Outstanding work, teaching these birds to fly, Ziv.
@hvrcat 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea and a good reminder how useful it is to get out of the typical gear usage box.
@simononutube 5 жыл бұрын
needto just thinking exactly this as I am in a bit of a rut at the moment. This will pull me out!
@JA-gt8cr 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos! If anyone is interested in this sort of (out of) phased looping but with much longer samples the Tsunami Wav Trigger is a great option. There are also ways to combine loops that are intended to stay in sync with those you want to go out of phase.
@AdnanAlsannaa 5 жыл бұрын
This is easily my favorite vid from this channel
@eckharteric 2 жыл бұрын
I did a whole four channel sound installation using this kind of looping technique and with some help from overbridge. It’s a very underrated use for the digitakt!
@Hut-181 Жыл бұрын
I watch videos like this then just stare into the middle distance and contemplate how I might unblow my mind.. This one will take a good long while. Thank you so much!
@moose1689 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. Had almost convinced myself not needing the dikitakt.
@anakamhi7097 3 жыл бұрын
The GAS is real 😂
@cloudrun654 4 жыл бұрын
The two pieces of music you played for us here were beautiful. They stand alone as music I would enjoy listening to. There are of a very high quality and craft. If you made a youtube page of just your music, I would happily subscribe to that, too.
@loopop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! First album coming soon...
@alexrsmith31 Жыл бұрын
Drift by Bicep is very similar to the first jam
@philpaintsstuff 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you’ve just brought the Digitakt back into the frame for me, think I’ve definitely settled on an Elektron! Thanks for the heads up about the video last week!
@LondraCalibro9 2 жыл бұрын
consistently incredible content. I think the impact you must have on music is probably understated - you must inspire so many people. thank you for the hard work and the jewels!
@MrCowfood 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. I suggest as a follow up perhaps looper pedal exploration. Sound on sound n such.
@zerozeroisland 5 жыл бұрын
This is so wonderful! I had no idea you could set the decay to infinite on Digitakt. Thanks so much for this!
@BharathKumarIyer 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for talking about tape loops as a method. Looking forward to playing around free-time based loops on all my digital machines.
@DopamineOverload 3 жыл бұрын
That thing with the Digitakt was dope as HELL. Seriously. And how you just threw that together. Genius. Absolutely genius.
@comesect 4 жыл бұрын
Been doing this for years in different ways...now I gotta check out this digitakt, thanks.
@nathanricker1 5 жыл бұрын
Works like a charm with the euro Bitbox as well. Much appreciated, as always.
@simonpanrucker 5 жыл бұрын
I love the bird track! Beautiful sounds :) Nice effect with the pitch of the birds modulating too!
@Cautionary-Tales-Band 4 жыл бұрын
You can also do this via MIDI in Ableton, if you have a synth that supports multiple layered voices. The fun part there is that both copies of the voice can share automation data, even though the notes change in phase relationship, so you can have shared filter movement or whatever.
@dazeja 5 жыл бұрын
Maschine is a master for this technique as well. People think of it as a groove box, but it’s an amazing complex sampler, soundscape creator doing exactly what you are doing.
@nathanjmansfield9969 5 жыл бұрын
Especially now since the update bringing the Audio Plugin which allows for looping with many adjustments to sample. Maschine software and hardware are my favourite tools for music making, expression and fun. I start many tracks on the iMaschine 2 app for iOS which is actually what led me to the Maschine gear. The same with Korg Gadget iOS app led me to Gadget 2 on mac. The synth sounds and GUI encourage my workflow.
@dazeja 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanjmansfield9969 same here, Maschine is my favorite tool and I have a lot of them.
@VincentFliniaux 9 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate a bit? I can't find any video featuring Maschine used as a tape machine/drifting loop box.
@NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias 5 жыл бұрын
Another way to use this technique is to have layers of samples (obviously of differing length) with only one or two notes/sounds each. This makes it easier to treat each part without affecting the on-going whole. I've used this with hardware and software samplers.
@tweakmygroovebox608 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous idea- I love the possibilities this opens for evolving ambient sounds. I guess you could also sequence using conditional triggers with different bar lengths too. Nice.
@vr4ever645 3 жыл бұрын
Best synth channel hands down!
@stephenroldan5107 2 жыл бұрын
He knows his stuff.
@duende300000 2 ай бұрын
i LOVE these shenanigans. THANKS so much
@milk_bath 5 жыл бұрын
Oh snap, that twist and pan out at the start!
@happyjessus Жыл бұрын
This was pure gold! Please make more tips and tricks videos that teach us how to use the gear we already have instead of wanting new gear 😂
@duncandempster3848 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for this excellent and timely video (your video demos and tutorials in general are excellent). As it happens, after much internal debate I just splurged on the digitakt, and this totally aligns with my desired workflow and aesthetic. Very encouraging!
@spiddlemyfiddle 5 жыл бұрын
well that's just about the most beautiful tutorial i've ever seen. thanks mate. need to get one of those digitakts
@havokcc 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, nice tips. Can't wait to get home and try with my octatrack
@nickhutton251 2 жыл бұрын
Can this be done on the octatrack? Seems like a silly question I know. But I am on the fence between the two. The digitakt is winning solely for the looping of the samples like this, but also because I know for sure you can do trig the sequence to evolve the sound over time without restarting the sample loop. I’m sure this could be done on the octatrack but am finding it hard to get an actual answer.
@monomakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge! Steve Reich FTW! 👍🏻👍🏻
@jeroenfigee 4 жыл бұрын
soooo cool! I heard 2 bars of the beginning of the video and tons of laughter here... Didn't expect that coming from the device. Never heard that track coming from anything else than an orchestra. Really cool idea! Thumbs up from me. :-)
@BuildertheButcher 5 жыл бұрын
I think I will go and buy a digitakt tomorrow. Your tutorials just make it better and better
@ntrsnofficial8328 5 жыл бұрын
Oo how original
@greygoo5319 5 жыл бұрын
It's weird I'm listening to music for airports while taking a bath, and your piano loop fits really well with it 😊🛀✈️🎹
@fisk0 4 жыл бұрын
Korg's Electribe 2 can do this as well, though with its limited sample memory you'd probably want to record the sample at double or quadruple speed (which would equal 22 and 11 khz instead of the standard 44) and then pitch down on the ES2's sample editor ... which in turn would mean the sound fidelity is closer to actual tape loops as well. You can compensate for some of that quality reduction with effects and EQ.
@nicholaskothari8150 4 жыл бұрын
playing with two similar melodies with "last step" function being 3 or 4 could probably create some fun stuff.
@sborges433 5 жыл бұрын
Loved to have watched this with the 4ms Sampler and/or Morpho.
@milztempelrowski9281 5 жыл бұрын
"just do it"
@howardanderson3061 5 жыл бұрын
I love what you do, you have the best videos and here's another one. Thank you so much, I've dreamed of creating off set loops. Now I can....in the day you would need 2 tape recorders ala Robert Fripp and Brian Eno We are so lucky today to have the technology to do things that were once impossible Thanks again for sharing this!!
@loopop 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure - Thanks for taking the time to write!
@strangersun7721 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's going right in the "favorites" folder. Lovely stuff. Thanks for sharing your process.
@tahiche. 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely bass pad at the end.
@robjames5009 4 жыл бұрын
The last loop is soo goooodddd! Want that as a full track :)
@crimsonking90 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing final loop
@benasaro1043 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! This can also be done in Eurorack using a sequencer like the the NerdSeq by cloning a pattern and making the copy one sample shorter.
@roninthegoat2810 Жыл бұрын
yoooo this first melody is so dope!!
@dwdougherty 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips here, Loopop! Thank you.
@gearpunk9632 4 жыл бұрын
I've just tried this. Thanks a lot for the inspiration. Your vids are great!
@cold_fashioned 5 жыл бұрын
I'm putting together a Music for Airports tribute EP of sorts based on the techniques you demonstrate here using my Octatrack. It's been a lot of fun, and I've learned a lot about the OT along the way.
@spazecraft1973 5 жыл бұрын
I first did this technique on an Akai S950 rack unit. I used to record live multisamples looped and muted them to get my variations in a song structure cause i didnt have a midi keyboard connected. Lol i believe ou can probably do this technique in the Samplr app on ios. Love your vids n tuts man. Thanks.
@vvcv__00 10 ай бұрын
A different approach can also be done. For example, just change one (or more) measures/bars to two instruments playing the same phrase. Then use the different measures/bars to change a note/rest, usually at the end of the phrase, to achieve nearly the same effect however, with much more control -since everything is still counted at the same timing. Composers, especially within the minimalist movement, used this type phrasing. Serialism writers did nearly the same thing, though with pitch/notes. Then modernism took this to achieve atonal, and opposing key structure, tension. Basically similar to adding/subtracting a beat in your sequence -if more than one line is used.
@smoketoad 5 жыл бұрын
Production KZfaq needs more content like this. Amazing work and under 10 minutes.
@PankajChoudhury 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do like such Shenanigans specially when it is done by Loopop !! I love it!!
@michaelkonomos Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous. Creative and expressive. Wonderful video.
@V3nom7 3 жыл бұрын
The GR-1 from Tasty Chips allows this too (limited to 4 tracks/timbre), maybe even in an easier and more direct way. I already made some "arabic soundscape" with one guitare sample of my own, and some strange animal screams made from samples of my creaky stool xD
@RotlichtFilet 5 ай бұрын
Man, this is great!!! Have to try this!
@thestourvalleysynthesizerc6543 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. And very relaxing, too!
@billsoraparu9673 3 жыл бұрын
Well I’m convinced that the Digitakt will be my next purchase. Very informative video Loopop!! Nicely done!!
@Lcrymlgy Жыл бұрын
This has been incredibly inspiring, I think it might just be the thing that helps me get back in to it
@CO5MA 2 жыл бұрын
7:09 I got shivers 🤩
@IanBussAudio 5 жыл бұрын
I need to go home and do this right now.
@sanfordmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find some ways to incorporate Output Arcade into my workflow (it is very fast) and this method works! Thanks for the tips, as always.
@shaunmorganuk21 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Definitely going to try this on the OT!
@mymockumentary9716 4 жыл бұрын
I've been stalking your channel for a while, great work and nice voice.... this video is genius, shame I'm not likely to get a digitak (I've finally subscribed :) hehe)
@justingoers 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful stuff man.
@ildarkinildarkin 14 күн бұрын
I did something similar with Korg Volca Sample 2 . It's good for some drone/ambient stuff, but for sure Digitakt makes it better.
@Benboe 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and very inspiring! I love how you can be so creative with elektron boxes without the sequencer.
@GuitarManiac1975 5 жыл бұрын
Once again very cool. You seem to be full of incredible musical ideas. Thanks for this new ‘lesson’!
@loopop 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure - thanks!
@goolobungi2943 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Idea, Thanks for your digitakt videos, it helps me see more in the instrument
@kevinsturges6957 Жыл бұрын
These sound amazing. So much inspiration in here.
@nobbystyles4807 3 жыл бұрын
i wont lie much of this stuff is over my head im just really getting into the nuts and bolts of synths. its amazing how easy it is to use simple ideas to create interesting patterns. i want to buy a decent granular synth because i love those trippy off kilter sequences you can make with them. so far all i can do is stretch a sound and play with the grain size and add some delay. i find if you assign the grain size to a controller you can get some nice stuff going on. so much to learn
@drumatic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for fantastic insight on DT!
@German_LP 4 жыл бұрын
Great voice, great channel, great info! Thanks from Argentina!
@lineoffside Жыл бұрын
WTF ?! you are awesome dude! the most inspirating person in this era!!!
@PiperBlush 5 жыл бұрын
You are a god
@jeitoots 2 жыл бұрын
So simple yet so wonderful.
@ChanseMacabre 5 жыл бұрын
Really great idea! I've learned a lot of cool tricks that can be applied to Elektron boxes from your videos, so thanks for making them. :)
@whoadog8725 5 жыл бұрын
The MPC Live/X & Akai Force can do this as well. On the Octatrack, you can just trigger the sample manually on the 9-16 keys for the samples you want to loop indefinitely & use the sequencer on the other tracks. It’s a great way to layer a drone to program drums to.
@synthsauce9886 5 жыл бұрын
How can this be done with the mpc live? The looper? Looping pads on the mpc live has to be on note on, it can’t be done on one shots. I want it to loop independently infinitely, just like the video.
@EnochLight 4 жыл бұрын
@@synthsauce9886 - If you don't want to use Clips, you have to do it using TubeDigga's "hack" like this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtGFrcl4prbDgqs.html
@brandonharkins6900 Ай бұрын
Sounds similar to a day in bel bruit, love it
@AndrewJohnClive 5 жыл бұрын
Loopop, you make lovely sounds.. Thank you!
@Mr_Tim 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Will try if I can pull that out on the MPC Live 👌🏻
@loopop 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Steers cool! Please leave a comment if it’s possible
@DeathFromRKelly 5 жыл бұрын
You have me wondering... the MPC doesn’t have the infinite decay that these samplers have, but definitely share if you find workarounds!
@Mr_Tim 5 жыл бұрын
Well, not too successful so far... did duplicate a drum sample and slightly trimmed one. I did convert them in clips so they can loop (also work when re-triggering the samples automatically with a LFO) but the result is not the expecting one so far... will dig that deeper!
@iamsteveshoe 5 жыл бұрын
Im interested too. Commenting, hoping to find out some cool useful tricks
@synthsauce9886 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Steers I have an mpc live too. Doing the same. If you come up with a solution please post it.
@davidkempmail 5 жыл бұрын
Great feature - I wasn’t aware you could do this, I must try it on my Digitakt 👍🏼👏🏼👊🏼
@donaldpriola1807 5 жыл бұрын
What an inspiring video! Thanks for sharing a technique I hadn't thought of trying with the Digitakt!
@tylerevans1700 4 жыл бұрын
That was incredible man..
@muitosabao 5 жыл бұрын
if you add enough loops of varying lengths, it could be that it takes hours or days until they loop together again
@garethjones7182 3 жыл бұрын
Took me a few attempts (set 'decay to inf' is key), now got some samples of Reich's 'City Life' phasing in and out, next I'll do 'Hand clapping'. Thanks!
@lfoflow 4 жыл бұрын
Love this so much...
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760 4 жыл бұрын
The Korg Volca Sample is great for this, and you can pick them up cheap, now.
@MarcellJjr 3 жыл бұрын
I just got mine a few days ago and made 16 tracks from this video today!
@Riktenstein 5 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel.
@digitaldiezel5870 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest things I seen done with the digitakt. I'm going to try this on my device....and then I'll come back here and brag about it... lol 😊
@loopop 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@digitaldiezel5870 5 жыл бұрын
@@loopop I tried it with the FORCE, it was beautiful. Thanks for the tips!!! 👍
@Cosmonaut1999 3 жыл бұрын
You can kind of hack this too in model:cycles. Two identical tracks and sequence of notes panned left and right. Play one sequence with a length of 16 the other with a length of 15. Experiment with nudging sequenced notes of one track off the grid and add load of reverb and delay. Then have fun with ctrl all and the all parameters available. It's not exactly the same as what Loopop is doing here but it's close and yields some trippy results.
@demokid2000 5 жыл бұрын
You can do the same on e.g. a an old E-mu EMAX-II stereo sampler. Set e.g. different loop points or pich of the primary and secondary sample :)
@GlowingShutter 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most complex piano techniques is playing both sequences by one person out of phase. Incredibly hard. Normally the Steve Reich pieces are played by one musician per loop.