Anti-Vaxxer Who Paid $10 To Debate Sam Seder Gets His Wish

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The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder

The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder

2 жыл бұрын

An anti-vaxxer paid real money and joined as a member to debate Sam. It did not go well for him.
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Radio Free America.
Tadio Free America. that this is him and he has claimed or maybe she has claimed that they joined the show today to I’m to debate me and wanted to debate. Hello, you're listening to another show.
Hello.
Hello yeah, you come from a 92 are you Radio-Free America?
I am. That is me.
Okay and so you want to debate me. and so here you go.
Yes absolutely.
Pretty good. I mean you got it you got to give it you got to give me big points right?
For doing that I mean because it felt like when you know I'd like a full segment because when Ethan had you kind of like ambush Steven Crowder like that, yeah you know you were expecting a full segment and you counted it as a win because he left the video chat right?
No, I counted that as a loss. I desperately wanted to engage with him.
But you know whatever you want to talk about we disagree on what…
You call me so you come up with the topic.
All right, I guess that was the one that you guys were gonna talk about.
Okay, and what's your point about vaccination. You don't think people should have them.
No, if you want a vaccination by all means like go get one. But I think that coercing people is like threatening termination and a job ought to be illegal in the United States. You can't make someone receive a medical like operation or anything like to work somewhere, can you? So why should we force people to get vaccinated to stay employed?
What would you be comfortable going to work if you knew that someone there had leprosy?
I think if someone is covid positive.
No no no no I didn't ask you about covid. I just want to start with like I just want to know where you draw the line. Somebody has leprosy. they're coming to work okay. Are you comfortable with working alongside that person with leprosy?

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@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 2 жыл бұрын
Sam fulfilling these poor Make-a-Wish kid’s dreams. What a guy!
@waltmccarthy9837
@waltmccarthy9837 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, let’s not laugh at ill childrens’ expense.
@frank6842
@frank6842 2 жыл бұрын
@@waltmccarthy9837 but make a wish is bullshit anyway
@pearcesharper844
@pearcesharper844 2 жыл бұрын
@@frank6842 is that you John Cena?
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106
@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@thebeigesheep6132
@thebeigesheep6132 2 жыл бұрын
@@frank6842 is there a make a wish controversy I missed?
@blueshells50
@blueshells50 2 жыл бұрын
When i considered myself conservative, this is how i argued. This show helped me see how freaking shallow conservative and libertarian thought is.
@dalesplitstone6276
@dalesplitstone6276 2 жыл бұрын
I am not in any sense of the word conservative, but I have not had the Covid-19 vaccine. I told my GP, who has given me all my vaccines, including the shingles vaccine, that I am unvaccinated with regards to Covid, but will get vaccinated against Covid-19 as soon as she can administer the vaccine. When I told her that I have been exposed to Covid at least 4 times in the past few months, but have not got Covid, her response was, it is very unlikely that I have not had Covid. My dentist, who I would also accept the vaccine from, agreed, and added that he, who is vaccinated and boosted, has probably had Covid, but doesn't know because he has never been tested. About two weeks ago, I was at by brother-in-law's retirement party, and my youngest niece, who is vaccinated and boosted, was gibing me hell because I'm not vaccinated. Now she and her hysband both have Covid, but I still haven't had Covid, to the best of my knowledge. BTW, I am 68 years old, and will soon be 69 years old.
@chrism2042
@chrism2042 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry you were brainwashed by the left!
@blueshells50
@blueshells50 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrism2042 I'm sorry your brain is made of pudding
@roqm1248
@roqm1248 2 жыл бұрын
If the caller said he didn't trust these vacancies as they were done quickly he might have had a chance...
@davidswentnickas7595
@davidswentnickas7595 2 жыл бұрын
Actual Libertarians are pretty far left (anti prohibition, pro-choice, pro-LGBT etc) so I hate to see them roped into blanket conservatism but there's a lot of crazy evangelicals & stoned Republicans falsely claiming (and polluting) that label unfortunately
@JordanG123
@JordanG123 Жыл бұрын
The "do your own research" in unison by Sam and Emma was hilarious
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 11 ай бұрын
Honestly always found that slogan annoying. 😆 and both sides use it too! Its because people do their own inept research that they believe all kinds of stupid shit 😆😆
@rdk2323
@rdk2323 11 ай бұрын
​@@andreaskarlsson5251They are clearly using it ironically
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 11 ай бұрын
@@rdk2323 yes, I know? Werent talking about them
@joshanderson3640
@joshanderson3640 11 ай бұрын
If Sam did research he wouldn't be pro covid Vax.
@philippgro4978
@philippgro4978 Жыл бұрын
I cant with this guy lmfao!! "Why do you associate your black gf with the question of immigration?" .. Best moment
@shgalagalaa
@shgalagalaa Жыл бұрын
The three people ganging up on him imply that he's a racist. Then make the bad faith inference that you quoted when its painfully obvious that he brought up his black girlfriend as it discredits the idea that he wants only white people in the country. He even explicitly states this. You people are legit as brainwashed as alex jones fans jesus
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead 6 ай бұрын
No, it really wasn't. He was accused of being concerned with "white demographics."
@tristanalain9239
@tristanalain9239 Ай бұрын
"I'm not racist I have a black gf" This caller just evolved the black friend argument.
@XeroCool420
@XeroCool420 2 жыл бұрын
This kid is the epitome of the revelation that damn near 50% of the nation doesn't read above a 7th/8th grade level.
@idontwantahandlethough
@idontwantahandlethough 2 жыл бұрын
You're being _incredibly_ generous here.
@gibn1542
@gibn1542 2 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Cruz it's not really that hard to access
@CoryMp3
@CoryMp3 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Most people are very very shallow in their understanding of the world. - before our boy Pedro Cruz jumps in: I have a masters degree in human physiology.
@SeraphSeph
@SeraphSeph 2 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Cruz Uh, are you good? A 7th grade reading level is pathetic, anyone could read at that level if they put in a menial amount of effort. He's not being a know it all.
@SeraphSeph
@SeraphSeph 2 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Cruz and yet you replied.
@gthirst
@gthirst 2 жыл бұрын
Eviscerated. Wow. This guy is just constantly so confidently incorrect. It is honestly amazing. He just gets destroyed on one point and moves on to the next and repeats over and over again.
@waltmccarthy9837
@waltmccarthy9837 2 жыл бұрын
He should run for office in the Bible belt. They’d love ‘em.
@thefruch7588
@thefruch7588 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem for him. Is that he's 24....lol you have soo much false confidence at that age. He learned some surface level shit and thinks he's brilliant. Then he gets pushed and is like uhhhh subject change haha
@JesusSprintingOnTheOcean
@JesusSprintingOnTheOcean 2 жыл бұрын
Fr deflection after deflection like a deflector or something
@whenwedecay
@whenwedecay 2 жыл бұрын
"My body, my choice" I felt embarrassed for the caller. The ignorance was appalling
@DescartesStrollsIntoAPub
@DescartesStrollsIntoAPub 2 жыл бұрын
This is how rightwingers argue.
@luizmatthew1019
@luizmatthew1019 Жыл бұрын
I wish they got him on not knowing that HIPAA doesn't prevent people from asking you. It just prevents your doctor/medical institution from disclosing without your permission. Super common myrh
@jameskeathley7554
@jameskeathley7554 Жыл бұрын
Was just gonna say the same thing. Find it hilarious when people bring up HIPAA and have no clue what it's about.
@ClayChapman0
@ClayChapman0 Жыл бұрын
@@jameskeathley7554 I think you'll find that this is a common theme among most conservative talking points
@neilmcfadden9760
@neilmcfadden9760 Жыл бұрын
Its because you have to disclose a card in order to keep your job... thereby disclosing your medical information. You cry babies should be on the side of having a choice of what you put in your body..
@collinhenderson8646
@collinhenderson8646 Жыл бұрын
Well I wouldn't only say that for a previous job of mine we couldn't tell details of events due to HIPAA regulations so it's not just from doctors/medical standpoints.
@PaintGuru24
@PaintGuru24 11 ай бұрын
It would also prevent any entity who has your information from disclosing your information to a third party without consent but yeah. The idea that asking you upfront is a violation is bogus.
@Spyderredtoo
@Spyderredtoo Жыл бұрын
When I was 7, I had polio which left me dropping out of school while I recovered and relearned to walk. The idea that someone want to infect others with a deadly disease is a social issue. Amazing how conceited the caller is.
@auntiepha8343
@auntiepha8343 Жыл бұрын
🏆🎯
@Farticuss
@Farticuss Жыл бұрын
Honestly. And even if you want to approach the issue from the capitalist's side: should an employer not be able to institute rules to ensure the operation of their business? If a covid outbreak happened in your factory and suddenly half you staff are out sick or quarantined, that's a big problem. Should that business owner not have the right to put rules in place to prevent that from happening? I think it's the shittier argument but might be more likely to get through the skull of some selfish libertarian type.
@jimmydean4494
@jimmydean4494 Жыл бұрын
Get that booster
@SG-zp5uy
@SG-zp5uy Жыл бұрын
It's different when vaccines are harmful but the authorities are lying about the risks and covering it up. It's not true that everyone exposed to polio virus gets it. There are holistic approaches to these diseases and holistic solutions that work. The risks need to be fully disclosed and people deserve the freedom to choose. Where there is risk there needs to be a choice.
@BasedRoots
@BasedRoots Жыл бұрын
You guys are in a cult. Sorry you can’t see it
@SuperRand13
@SuperRand13 2 жыл бұрын
As a 23 year old man hearing others my age argue like this really encourages me to keep my mouth shut, listen, think, and wait to really debate theses things bc damn i must be dumb af.
@prodesu8607
@prodesu8607 2 жыл бұрын
It's ok, at 23 most people usually don't know that much about politics, with some exceptions of course. It takes time to build a proper opinion
@dbkaggie
@dbkaggie 2 жыл бұрын
It takes some people longer than others to think outside of their own existence. Unfortunately as we've seen en masse of late, some never reach that point.
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in my 30s and STILL know there is MUCH to learn. I used to be left leaning but have definitely come to the center. The right is wrong most of the time, but definitely not all. Both sides think they’re right, but that of course can’t be true. When it comes to keeping your mouth shut, don’t. Asking questions is the best way to gain more knowledge. Trying to figure out what is BS and what is not is the challenge.
@mr.dr0bot731
@mr.dr0bot731 2 жыл бұрын
If your 23 you don't have an argument to begin with. Your brain isn't fully developed you're still a child.
@aussiesurfer805
@aussiesurfer805 2 жыл бұрын
@@HypocritesExposd Spit on …. Don’t keep your mouth shut kid, being involved in open honest discussion is critical to learning … But more so, having respect , empathy and truly trying to listen to the other persons viewpoint and wanting to understand it. If you can do that last bit you’ll be a good person who can make a difference … And hey don’t worry about being wrong, you can learn more off that often then being right , but if you try and understand other peoples views who you may not agree with rather than just dismissing them because they are different to yours is the key … keep debating - with respect …
@clareshaughnessy2745
@clareshaughnessy2745 Жыл бұрын
I love people who want all the benefits of living in a society but don’t want the responsibility
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 Жыл бұрын
“Fuck you as long as I get Mine” the mantra of the libertarian and right wing
@brianm7278
@brianm7278 Жыл бұрын
I think they're assholes. Who likes assholes?
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 Жыл бұрын
That's the conservative view across the board. They want schools, roads, but balk at helping to fund such things
@johndupont8628
@johndupont8628 Жыл бұрын
Don't mention getting a fishing license they become condescending twats. like hatchery workers, biologists and game wardens don't need to get paid. Really tired of the never ending straw man culture wars.
@pussydestroyer87
@pussydestroyer87 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They want all the freedoms but none of the responsibility.
@shuricartier4871
@shuricartier4871 Жыл бұрын
I almost bailed because the kid has zero knowledge about anything but then Sam dropped that elbow & told that brat he'd have only him vaccinated 🤣🤣🤣
@killercuddles7051
@killercuddles7051 11 ай бұрын
I'd shank a ho if they tried Jabbing me with that poison
@user-xd1ux4ye1s
@user-xd1ux4ye1s 11 ай бұрын
Coming straight from the horse's mouth, only more proof that they're harmful.
@highlightrelz897
@highlightrelz897 Жыл бұрын
Caller: “People die with seatbelts and without seatbelts. Therefore, we should not have seatbelts”
@bradlupien2770
@bradlupien2770 2 жыл бұрын
Unreal that someone would actually pay money to embarrass themselves. I could hear his last braincell fizzling up from here.
@whenwedecay
@whenwedecay 2 жыл бұрын
He is more than likely the smartest person in his social group... this allows us to view the state of education for those under 30 in conservative circles
@tamarak9393
@tamarak9393 2 жыл бұрын
@@whenwedecay I bet his friends call him Einstein cause he’s so smart.
@FakingANerve
@FakingANerve 2 жыл бұрын
$10 is actually quite cheap for that particular kink.
@whenwedecay
@whenwedecay 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamarak9393 he's the one they go to when they need to set the record straight... 🤣 In all seriousness, the caller's argument was so poorly executed that it actually provided comical relief for the majority of us. However the thought of these poor souls acting on their right to cast a vote and also influencing others to vote is cause for concern
@lilmoe4364
@lilmoe4364 2 жыл бұрын
Pzzzzzzz.. (the last brain cell) 🤣🤣🤣
@kevinarzola4781
@kevinarzola4781 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good example of why Steven Crowder refuses to debate. Dude got shat on
@darkrider962
@darkrider962 2 жыл бұрын
Steven Crowder still checks under his bed every night for Sam Seder.
@robertosalinas1659
@robertosalinas1659 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkrider962 he checks his closet too. And probably keeps a night light on just to be extra safe.
@ColeDaniels
@ColeDaniels 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertosalinas1659 He sleeps in his gun holster
@Kropothead
@Kropothead 2 жыл бұрын
“Run like hell.”
@sunshynff
@sunshynff 2 жыл бұрын
Hell, even Joe Rogan, who has proclaimed many times "Don't use my show to make decisions on politics or government, I don't know shit, I just talk about it and give my opinion" destroyed Crowder over legalization of marijuanna. I literally thought Crowder was going to cry. I've never seen anyone want out of Rogan's studio so badly.
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
10:17 “cause I’m naturally immune” NOOO you are NOT. You’re 24 and got lucky
@killercuddles7051
@killercuddles7051 11 ай бұрын
say... 1/100,000 people died from SARS CoV-2.... Lets pretend it was closer to 1/10,000... Most of these people were in poor health and SARS was just the final straw.... 1/35 people getting Myocarditis and an endless list of other side effects.... I'll take my far less than 1/10,000 chances
@cgallegos2106
@cgallegos2106 Ай бұрын
Not to mention that “natural immunity” isn’t permanent, especially for highly transformative diseases like the Flu, the common cold (which always mutates) and now Covid. Guy is immune from a strain of Covid, which loses its effectiveness within 6 months.
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Sam is dismantling this young man while eating his food. That’s what you call a true “working lunch”.
@bonafideredneck1842
@bonafideredneck1842 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't dismantle anyone, he strawmaned like a wimp.
@majesticpublicenemy3201
@majesticpublicenemy3201 2 жыл бұрын
@@bonafideredneck1842 Dat reiich wing projection (and fitting name btw)
@soltkiote7785
@soltkiote7785 2 жыл бұрын
@@bonafideredneck1842 Cognitive Dissonance at its finest. Thanks for proving the point.
@TotsNater
@TotsNater 2 жыл бұрын
@@bonafideredneck1842 How's that Trump reinstatement going? Still on track for August 2021?
@Israel-nb7ip
@Israel-nb7ip 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't take much work...
@ICavalcadeI
@ICavalcadeI 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the "my body, my choice" rebuttal might make sense if pregnant women were able to INFECT other women with pregnancy, lmao. But when dealing with matters of public health, "my body, my choice" is a nonsequitur.
@reke9592
@reke9592 2 жыл бұрын
The way he said it too was like “oh yeah this is gonna end this debate right here”
@thefruch7588
@thefruch7588 2 жыл бұрын
Yeaa one effects other people. One effects the self. Of course they don't think of this.
@maxwessel7786
@maxwessel7786 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't even deliver it in coherent context. He just parroted it as a panic button.
@mena376
@mena376 2 жыл бұрын
If post-abortion women were more likely to catch and spread covid. That might make debate VERY interesting.
@sle2470
@sle2470 2 жыл бұрын
It's just another lame whataboutism.
@g33ch33
@g33ch33 Жыл бұрын
This guy must work for the NFL. The way he moves the goal posts, it has to be his full-time job.
@brians9508
@brians9508 Жыл бұрын
"the vaccine stays localized in the arm" lmfao
@anony1596
@anony1596 2 жыл бұрын
As a 24 year old, this guy makes me sick. He makes 24 year olds sound like 14 year olds. Dude grow up
@theunholinesswithin70
@theunholinesswithin70 2 жыл бұрын
It's just conservatism, the ideology is based on dishonesty, narcissism and immaturity.
@LeeH688
@LeeH688 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds exactly the same as the anti vaxxers I know in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.
@shortstuff780
@shortstuff780 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, i'm 26, not too much older. and this guy is either a troll, or honestly just mentally unright. no way he's being serious
@tmc31390
@tmc31390 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it’s the folks who are 10, 20, even 30 years older than him that are worse. He’s just a youngin who’s believing the nonsense the older generations have taught him. But he does need to grow up.
@Ryattt81
@Ryattt81 2 жыл бұрын
NOT TRUE! He only makes himself sound like a 14 year old.
@soconfused8031
@soconfused8031 2 жыл бұрын
Note on the AIDS pandemic: you are legally required to disclose that you are AIDS/HIV positive to someone before you have sex with them. You're also not allowed to donate blood. There are plenty of legal restrictions based around people who may transmit AIDS/HIV, so this guy's point falls flat
@rickandhews2690
@rickandhews2690 2 жыл бұрын
well he will just swiftly move to the next big brain take
@alexmoorehead9636
@alexmoorehead9636 2 жыл бұрын
i bet this kid is big on the transwomen "trapping" men, too. "you better tell me the moment I walk up to you what's in your pants or else I'm justified in murdering you to defend my fragile manhood!"
@leelindsay5618
@leelindsay5618 2 жыл бұрын
Aids epidemic....not pandemic
@intuitionz1198
@intuitionz1198 2 жыл бұрын
@@leelindsay5618 how is this a point? do you know the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic? how does this is add to the conversation at all? 🤔
@BenedictMHolland
@BenedictMHolland 2 жыл бұрын
The epidemic happens to a single country. Pandemics are international. AIDS was a disaster because of Reagan bit AIDS was managed better by many other countries. Reagan murdered gay people left and right and only after millions died from AIDS and it was all over the straight community did we act.
@GaurangRShah
@GaurangRShah Жыл бұрын
Sam's patience with this guy was inspirational
@floepiejane
@floepiejane Жыл бұрын
We need as many people as we can get on our side voting for good policy. Better to guide than roast unless it's hopeless, then turn up the heat.
@anthonycordova91
@anthonycordova91 Жыл бұрын
How is it inspirational? It’s a debate where neither person raised their voice and only Sam called the opponent ignorant. Nothing inspirational about being able to hold a civil debate. That’s just the bare minimum qualifier of a good faith debate
@doubtshadow1
@doubtshadow1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, not really. He was dismissive and condescending, as is his habit. I liked the part where Sam either revealed or pretended that he believes that the government regulating how companies impose upon the rights of individual citizens is equivalent to the federal government doing the same. That wasn't a solid trap. That shows a gross misunderstanding of how rights function, and the government's prime directive to safeguard and respect them.
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 Жыл бұрын
I loved “There’s no debate, that what I believe!”
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 Жыл бұрын
@@doubtshadow1Yep. He doesn’t fully hear out the counter argument and reply head on. The cold and rigid way he greets the caller and then railroads them off topic prevents them from making their point. And then he never gives fair rebuttal, just an underhanded dance of fallacies. And then usually, some mean-spirited low blow personal remarks about the caller. These are not components of fruitful dialogue. Sam is a bigot.
@ding-go
@ding-go Жыл бұрын
Wow, conservative media is like a Dunning Kruger machine. This dude is so confident and yet EVERY single point he tries to score is thoroughly crushed to dust.
@user-xd1ux4ye1s
@user-xd1ux4ye1s 11 ай бұрын
Give me ONE liberal value that is a part of America's founding principles. I'll wait here patiently....
@ding-go
@ding-go 11 ай бұрын
@@user-xd1ux4ye1s Give me ONE conservative value that is a part of America's founding principles. I'll wait here patiently....
@user-xd1ux4ye1s
@user-xd1ux4ye1s 11 ай бұрын
@@ding-go You're throwing in the red towel already??? haha that was fast. cause you can't answer the question. typical dumb liberal
@thepolarphantasm2319
@thepolarphantasm2319 9 ай бұрын
​@@ding-goconservatives have to be punchlines because if they didn't have "being the globe's joke" they wouldn't have anything at all other than fear and panic
@WynnWynn-gl3fk
@WynnWynn-gl3fk 6 ай бұрын
He is a narcissist. Too many males are one.
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 2 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a debate. This was a beatdown.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@frostylo4485
@frostylo4485 2 жыл бұрын
Call the cops lol :D 😆
@lindaleelaw5277
@lindaleelaw5277 2 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for.
@frostylo4485
@frostylo4485 2 жыл бұрын
@@legionanonymous3165 yea an arrogant falsely confident young adult. Boastfullly challenging a veteran on the subject or in the field.... pure gold 👍👍👍
@somergone
@somergone 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a violent person... But this scared me how much I love bloodshed.
@redfan1912
@redfan1912 2 жыл бұрын
This guy was PAINFUL to listen to. The HIPAA argument was just ridiculous. How is it that so many people still don't understand what HIPAA actually is/does?
@khill8645
@khill8645 2 жыл бұрын
The same reason people still don't know how to spell it - 'cause it's HIPAA
@sealyoness
@sealyoness 2 жыл бұрын
Almost everything this guy says is ignorant, and I don't know why HIPPA is part of the convo. When I was 22, I knew people who WISHED the polio vaccine had been available when they were kids, because they lived through it. I knew people who WISHED the government had mandated measles, et al vaccines, because of family/friends who would have lived. Today there are living people who might have died, and dead people who would have lived, but for the Grace of Choice.
@redfan1912
@redfan1912 2 жыл бұрын
@@khill8645 PARDON ME your excellency. At least I understand what the fuck it actually applies to.
@Adamska156
@Adamska156 2 жыл бұрын
For those that don't know, it doesn't bar anyone from asking you anything about your medical history, that's absurd. It stops people from sharing what they do know about your medical history without your consent.
@redfan1912
@redfan1912 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adamska156 exactly. Specifically only applies to covered entities and their business associates.
@josealaniz1402
@josealaniz1402 Жыл бұрын
This guy was really trying to use the, "my body, my choice" like it was going to destroy him 😫
@PeterpanSyndrome_
@PeterpanSyndrome_ Жыл бұрын
"Did you call me to debate the automation of jobs 20 years from now ? " LOL!
@Jin420
@Jin420 2 жыл бұрын
This kid is just full of ego...... lacking much humility to understand anything other than whatever fake news he gets. It never hurts to read & fact check. 💯
@thefruch7588
@thefruch7588 2 жыл бұрын
Oh to be young haha. So confident yet so Ignorant
@thesoundofmerk
@thesoundofmerk 2 жыл бұрын
tell em Jin
@southendbos
@southendbos 2 жыл бұрын
They’re clearly not teaching deductive reasoning in school. It’s one thing to not know about messenger RNA and microbiology. It’s yet another to speak with authority on topics you know absolutely NOTHING about without the aptitude to even begin to comprehend the subject matter. That’s what’s infuriating about people like this.
@roundabout468
@roundabout468 2 жыл бұрын
@@glennjohn3824 I can tell you right away your weird uncle's Facebook posts aren't a valid source.
@ladypokerdealer
@ladypokerdealer 2 жыл бұрын
So many people around me are just like him 🥺
@quiznights
@quiznights 2 жыл бұрын
The anti-vaxxer had the benefit of having his argument ready while Sam could only react on the spot, and the anti-vaxxer was still destroyed.
@a.j.7264
@a.j.7264 Жыл бұрын
The antivaxxer believed fox news had adequately prepared him for the debate.
@psychicbyinternet
@psychicbyinternet Жыл бұрын
And Sam was eating for half of it lol
@herculesbrofister265
@herculesbrofister265 Жыл бұрын
@@a.j.7264 exactly most of the Regressive Republican's positions seem to be little more than memes. Grossly oversimplified versions of a topic with only a superficial understanding.
@SG-zp5uy
@SG-zp5uy Жыл бұрын
No antivaxxers are right
@MrDeceptacon88
@MrDeceptacon88 Жыл бұрын
Dont worry loser..host had months preparing his argument
@kelbale
@kelbale Жыл бұрын
I love the howling in the background hahahahahaha "... if we have children..."
@jimmyh.6233
@jimmyh.6233 Жыл бұрын
As a Floridian, I can tell you for a clear fact of matter that more of us than not couldn’t believe what de-Santa’s pulled on us. He helped to increase the severity of Covid in the state. It literally felt as though he was trying to thin the herd down here. After all there’s a lot of prime real estate to be got here!
@briantresden2933
@briantresden2933 Жыл бұрын
Florida deaths were surpassing California despite California having twice the population.
@jasonsmith9662
@jasonsmith9662 Жыл бұрын
Lmao what a stupid statement, I’ve lived in Orlando for over 20 years, your absolutely wrong on the deaths in Florida, stop watching the tv!!!
@tinydancer36
@tinydancer36 Жыл бұрын
​@@briantresden2933 Not that Florida is FULL of retirees...and Covid was greatly inflated to control sheeple like yourself. Communism is alive in our nation.
@Brynnthebookworm
@Brynnthebookworm Жыл бұрын
The pandemic taught me that massive retirement communities like those in FL are dangerous. During a widespread contagion where all the elderly folks are afraid to go out, there are no younger neighbors around to check on them or bring stuff to their porches. They were just stranded in a sea of other people that also could not help.
@user-xd1ux4ye1s
@user-xd1ux4ye1s Жыл бұрын
@@briantresden2933 That's a bold-faced lie. Prove it. I'll wait....
@davidsweeney7837
@davidsweeney7837 Жыл бұрын
You can not convince people like this…they just move on to the next thing once you break a hole in their argument!
@ImStayGold42
@ImStayGold42 2 жыл бұрын
This kid is wrong on literally every topic he opens his mouth about. 🤦‍♂️
@snoopy_peanuts_77
@snoopy_peanuts_77 2 жыл бұрын
he mentioned a few people that he obviously listens to and that would explain why....
@marcning918
@marcning918 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's easy to do when you fail to think things out for yourself. He sounds like a parrot with a really extensive vocabulary to me, not one original sentiment the whole time Sam talked to him.
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 2 жыл бұрын
Happens when your media diet is Fox News, newsmax, oan and Alex Jones.
@jeremyjimenez8153
@jeremyjimenez8153 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great example of how right wing talking points fall apart under scrutiny
@white_isnt_a_race2338
@white_isnt_a_race2338 2 жыл бұрын
So hes a conservative….
@davidbonilla7770
@davidbonilla7770 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t even know how HIPAA works you really shouldn’t try debating anyone let alone Sam Seder.
@gabesperber9958
@gabesperber9958 2 жыл бұрын
People with no knowledge of what a covered entity is or a business associate love to throw around HIPAA in contexts that make zero sense. In this call's case, a company that is interviewing a prospective worker.
@lizzyschenk8878
@lizzyschenk8878 2 жыл бұрын
The constant misrepresentation of HIPAA drives me nuts. It’s not that hard to look these things up but clearly people like this dude just repeat talking points from other misinformed wing nuts like MTG or Boebert.
@davidsummers4820
@davidsummers4820 2 жыл бұрын
The caller is clearly misinformed. But Sam's statement at 12:53 seems out of line with current practice. When does Sam imagine an employer asking a candidate, "Do you have any communicable diseases?" The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission makes clear that a question like that should only (if ever) be asked after an offer is made, i.e. without contingencies.
@jmacomber86
@jmacomber86 Жыл бұрын
When I was in the military, we were forced to get anthrax. Anthrax was nothing compared to Covid. That argument is stupid.
@w0ody16
@w0ody16 Жыл бұрын
17:13 When Emma starts and Sam joins in on a perfectly placed "DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!" had me rolling!!! I love y'all and how you handle these types in such debates. Keep it up. :)
@neilmcfadden9760
@neilmcfadden9760 Жыл бұрын
What did she contribute to this debate? An annoying nasally hype man is all she ever does. Lol bullies!
@theragmeister7148
@theragmeister7148 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great testament to how conservatives debate. Once you get pressed and don’t have a way out, you just move the goalpost.
@brandonw6139
@brandonw6139 Жыл бұрын
It's because people like this person believe something regardless of facts or reason and look for reasons to fit what they already believe
@lukelyon1781
@lukelyon1781 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@Lakers0olll
@Lakers0olll Жыл бұрын
Kind of like comparing COVID that was around for a couple months to leprosy that’s been around for thousands of years. If COVID was continuing to kill people thousand of year later I’m sure people would be open to a vaccine. Not an expiermental vaccine made in less than a year to people who are not threatened(under 30 years old)
@Ariaga_II
@Ariaga_II Жыл бұрын
How righteous of you. That’s the result when someone has a flawed argument or is incapable of coming up with a better argument. For example, from a public health stand point a forced COVID vaccine would remotely make sense of it’s proven that a vaccinated person was unable to transmit the disease. However, studies show that COVID is just as transmissible from a vaccinated person from a non-vaccinated person, thus an argument for why a vaccine mandate isn’t necessary. This guy was unprepared for a discussion. Many other individuals could have easily wiped the floor with Sam on this topic.
@gigaimpactor981
@gigaimpactor981 Жыл бұрын
@@Ariaga_II That’s not the entire point. Yes, someone can still pass COVID with a vaccination. But there is an INFINITELY higher chance they recover from it without BEING SENT TO A HOSPITAL OR DYING. Not to mention the fact that it lowers the risk OF CATCHING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. Keeping up, ding dong? The data bears everything I just said out. What’s the evidence you have that proves the vaccines aren’t effective. And effective in this case means: lowering hospitalization rates, lowering deaths from COVID, and reducing the overall amount of COVID cases among majority vaccinated populations. Go on. Try.
@brandondill5640
@brandondill5640 2 жыл бұрын
This dude backs himself into a corner with every talking point. I’ll give the guy credit though, most conservatives will go from losing a vaccine debate to “what about black on black crime in Chicago?” in less than 2 minutes. This goofball at least stays with it somewhat.
@jork8206
@jork8206 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly this guy seems a little brainwashed and dumb, but he's probably not too bad a guy. Maybe there's some hope left for him if he gets a wake-up call
@aeroripper
@aeroripper Жыл бұрын
Yea the employment of whataboutisms is pretty infamous among right-wingers.
@GunGuru2945
@GunGuru2945 Жыл бұрын
What? The vaccine was so important that like half the people didn't get it and we don't have crisis anymore. If someone shit out a polished turn most of you would eat it lmao
@spunkinater
@spunkinater Жыл бұрын
I hope Seder gets a wake up call. Dude said he is pro mandates at 7:40. What? With what science is he using to back up the necessity to force EUA medicine? We are on booster for a reason. Herd immunity is unobtainable through these vaccines.
@JaydubyaX
@JaydubyaX Жыл бұрын
So true.
@LogicOverEverything
@LogicOverEverything Жыл бұрын
“And abortion is not CONTAGIOUS” 🤫
@the.SteamingVegan
@the.SteamingVegan Жыл бұрын
These conversations are still important. You didn't waste your time because there are so many people who need to hear it. The algorithm will bring them to your show even if they aren't subscribed due to the subject matter
@jacksfather
@jacksfather 2 жыл бұрын
I love when every time that he loses he doesn’t say “I was wrong” he just changes the subject
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 2 жыл бұрын
That's par for the course when debating simpletons.
@dannyc8875
@dannyc8875 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure who u are referring to when u said; ...every time " HE " loses he doesn't say.... If u have a chance 2 get back...thx. Best 2 all, danny
@user-sf9gs2pg1b
@user-sf9gs2pg1b 2 жыл бұрын
I think he just realized he lost but it’s kinda embarrassing to be like,” you win on that point,” you know?
@darkhorse381
@darkhorse381 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyc8875 HE would be the one that was changing the subject- the caller
@darkhorse381
@darkhorse381 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b Yea that's fair. Very few people would admit they are wrong. But I hope some of Sam's arguments stay with him and chip away at his belief system over time. He seemed like a genuine, naive young guy that was just brainwashed into this ideology
@equinox8891
@equinox8891 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. These call in segments are pure entertainment, comedy gold.
@ZobethC
@ZobethC 2 жыл бұрын
I need Steven Crowder involved so Sam can trigger him 🤣
@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong
@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how they see White Boy #54 get destroyed by Sam and then think they have what it takes to "beat" him in a debate.
@MrDdooitt
@MrDdooitt Жыл бұрын
“People will just naturally stay home”. What a completely idiotic statement. That’s the fallacy. You can be unknowingly contagious. Companies don’t want to pay you for staying home sick. Is he for 100% welfare when you stay home? Parents want to send kids to school so they can work. Is he for companies paying 100% welfare for staying home with kids?
@danielrosic2960
@danielrosic2960 Жыл бұрын
Sam’s argument about the military mandating vaccines is fairly flawed, because the military essentially own your freedom temporarily. You volunteer away many rights, freedoms and privileges ranging from free speech to certain reproductive rights to where you’ll be living. So it’s not a great thing to point to as somehow illustrative of how the society at large ought to be.
@randallflagg9659
@randallflagg9659 2 жыл бұрын
This dude moved the goalposts so many times, he may need to see a back specialist.
@theinvisiblewoman5709
@theinvisiblewoman5709 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t even understand that HIPAA pertains to healthcare workers sharing your medical info not the individual being asked to share it, in which one can refuse due to privacy rights. If that was the case you couldn’t asked your friend who broke their arm what happened since them sharing their own info would be a HIPAA violation xD
@mitchellhughes5180
@mitchellhughes5180 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@roqm1248
@roqm1248 2 жыл бұрын
Caller didn't have a leg to stand on...had no salient points for his position...he tried to use his feelings as facts and flat out made up points to argue on.
@tappistrt
@tappistrt 2 жыл бұрын
And yet Sam still kept putting the ball right between them.
@sunshynff
@sunshynff 2 жыл бұрын
@@roqm1248...Yet we are the ones that apparently "don't like facts" or thought that "facts cared about our feelings". It's a toss up to me which is the most disgusting trait of the current GOP and their supporters, the denial and/or demonizing of objective reality, or the hypocrisy that drips from every word they say and action they perform.
@randallflagg9659
@randallflagg9659 2 жыл бұрын
My guy really thought his list of right-wing propaganda talking points was going to win him a debate against Sam Seder. The Dunning Kruger effect is real. 😂😂
@gabesperber9958
@gabesperber9958 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you have to wonder how this guy imagined this conversation going any differently.
@LexoG33
@LexoG33 2 жыл бұрын
​@@gabesperber9958 I just imagined the big brain meme talking with dude's voice
@RoninDave
@RoninDave 2 жыл бұрын
He thought he had Sam on the ropes when he threw down his trump card of "My body, my choice!" He probably imagined that when he did Sam would be sputtering and floundering as my man deliver blow after blow. Instead when that didn't happen he desperately tried to shift the discussion. So many rightwingers have these strawman arguments that when they do actually encounter someone on the left who is reasonably informed they find themselves crumbling
@randallflagg9659
@randallflagg9659 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabesperber9958 i have to wonder who ties his shoes or him.
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 Жыл бұрын
Few thoughts. 1. Good on this guy for willing to actually debate. Many right wingers simply reach conclusions and then are unwilling and unable to debate their stances. 2. Hanging up on him was not the right thing to do. You should only ever hang up on callers who become abusive or threatening. The correct move here would have simply meant to warn the caller that if he doesn't answer questions the call would be dropped. 3. "People are really upset that I entertained that guy for that long". I couldn't disagree more. This guy is 24 years old. He's gettable. His ideas stink, but he's not so rigid in his thinking that he's a total lost cause. The whole point of debate is for other 24 year olds like him to hear this debate and maybe realize they are also full of shit.
@irnbrewhaha
@irnbrewhaha Жыл бұрын
100%
@fotodav1010
@fotodav1010 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that the government will not allow us to light a cigarette at a gas pump!!! It’s just not right.
@TwoForFlinchin1
@TwoForFlinchin1 2 жыл бұрын
The way he just casually drops that he doesn't care about people who die from the flu is so telling. He thinks he won't die from the flu because he's big and strong and will never be old or ever be immunocompromised at any point in his life
@maynardthegreat
@maynardthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
But old and immunocompromised people can just get the vaccine 🤷‍♂️
@alexcarranza15
@alexcarranza15 2 жыл бұрын
Also, he doesn't care about public health at the moment but cares so much about job automation in 15 years? It's always selective with this people.
@southendbos
@southendbos 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexcarranza15 Mepublicans. It only matters if it happens to ME.
@termsofusepolice
@termsofusepolice 2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to meet any hardcore libertarian or anarcho-capitalist who isn't empathetically disabled. At the core of their ideology is the belief that any human society which is not in a constant state of culling the herd by allowing the survival of only its strongest and best positioned members is disordered and immoral. It's really that stark.
@theoneandonlyroelle
@theoneandonlyroelle 2 жыл бұрын
@@southendbos omg, let’s start using that!!!
@anzumazaki7798
@anzumazaki7798 2 жыл бұрын
Lol he wasted 10 dollars, Sam would have destroyed him for free
@disobedienttiger6240
@disobedienttiger6240 2 жыл бұрын
i was entertained, so $10 helped me?
@sonicjrjr14
@sonicjrjr14 Жыл бұрын
This kid doesn't even know the difference between a pandemic and an epidemic😂
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 Жыл бұрын
I'm in favor of mandatory vaccinations. Why should I not be? If the chances of reducing the spread of the virus is important, then it needs to be forced for the benefit of society.
@nicholasppoole
@nicholasppoole 2 жыл бұрын
as a dude in a mixed race relationship my entire soul cringed into itself so hard that it created a goddamn singularity when he said "You think I'm worried about white demographics? my girlfriend is black"
@ImNotaRussianBot
@ImNotaRussianBot 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet the dude whips that out everytime his racist, selfish bullshit is highlighted.
@corruptgunslinger
@corruptgunslinger Жыл бұрын
@@ImNotaRussianBot I hope he doesn't partake in any whipping where his black(probably ex now) girlfriend is concerned.
@cy-villian
@cy-villian 11 ай бұрын
You did exactly the same thing as he did yet you are critiquing him for it ...
@SweetieHeart388
@SweetieHeart388 6 ай бұрын
literally just the "I have a black friend though!" argument lmfao
@pugachevskobra5636
@pugachevskobra5636 6 ай бұрын
Your parents, reflecting on their decision to spend the Plan B money on wine instead: 😞🤢😬😱😥🤡
@jassonsw
@jassonsw 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is hopeless. Whenever he gets absolutely nailed on a point he changes the subject or moves off on a tangent. And he's relentless, there's no pause to acknowledge "oh yes you're right about that" or "I might have got that wrong", he just keeps going and going with no self awareness, let alone shame.
@chrisg9573
@chrisg9573 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how right wingers operate, when confronted with facts outside their echo chamber they run and hide like their Messiah Trump.
@allyson186
@allyson186 2 жыл бұрын
That's the worst part I think.
@0-0-0-2
@0-0-0-2 2 жыл бұрын
This is how every republican argues
@itcouldbelupus2842
@itcouldbelupus2842 2 жыл бұрын
Conservatives don't care if they are right or wrong, they just want to win.
@lastx2534
@lastx2534 2 жыл бұрын
It’s actually natural to go ‘well what about this’. It’d be nice if everyone took the time to acknowledge other peoples points where and when they have them but in reality most people associate being wrong with negative consequences and obviously seek to avoid them. A lot of brain stuff but basically when you are ‘proven wrong’ in conversation it is natural to trigger a fight/flight response. But to your credit it would be nice if more people could learn to anticipate these reactions and hopefully be able to think more clearly during interactions.
@pumpnix7243
@pumpnix7243 Жыл бұрын
as a health care professional the internal cringe i feel when hearing people bring up HIPAA to defend their points is deep!
@tylerguzinski6772
@tylerguzinski6772 Жыл бұрын
And when they deeply misunderstand what HIPPA even is.
@boreduser12
@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
Sam and that woman definitely show extreme dumb stances and contradictions.
@PorkchopXpress
@PorkchopXpress 2 жыл бұрын
If it were up to these types of people, we'd still be fighting Polio.
@superblump87
@superblump87 2 жыл бұрын
@Roberto Vidal Garcia "freedom"
@oopalonga
@oopalonga 2 жыл бұрын
i know right? it's not like the first polio vaccine caused thousands of cases of death and polio or anything. . . . don't worry my friend. a google search is easy these days :)
@oopalonga
@oopalonga 2 жыл бұрын
@Roberto Vidal Garcia correct
@belgarion4513
@belgarion4513 2 жыл бұрын
@@oopalonga I am old enough to have lost a friend from polio. I wasn't even knowing why I coulnd't see him. Just learned years later why he died and how he suffered. You are too ignorant to be talked to.
@MistedMind
@MistedMind 2 жыл бұрын
@@oopalonga What would be the upsides of Polio and other such diseases still being a mayor cause of suffering and/ or death of children and adults?
@IsThisAmerica1
@IsThisAmerica1 2 жыл бұрын
"Leprosy and ebola are self regulating. The invisible hand will take care of public health" is this guys argument. Unbelievable.
@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584
@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are a death cult. Gop are necromancers. They use death to gain power. This is why they need a child to be born and take the breath of life before they sacrifice it to their god, the almighty dollar.
@disobedienttiger6240
@disobedienttiger6240 2 жыл бұрын
The hand isn't invisible, it just fell off.
@armandhammer2223
@armandhammer2223 2 жыл бұрын
As if in a capitalist society people would have the option to stay home and not work. Would he expect the government to give "handouts" to people so they could survive? And if they got "handouts" according to him they'd never go back to work.
@zzanatos2001
@zzanatos2001 2 жыл бұрын
It's a mixture of "The Invisible Hand" and "Survival of the Fittest."
@myname2339
@myname2339 2 жыл бұрын
People were coughing on eachother in supermarkets and claiming COVID was a hoax so he thinks that people will stay home if they have leprosy and Ebola? You know some crazy Karen would we out there with her nose falling off starting a freedom convoy for lepers. 😂
@crabbyrat1972
@crabbyrat1972 Жыл бұрын
It’s too bad people don’t remember the eradication of smallpox by vaccinating literally everyone that could be vaccinated…
@greglr19751
@greglr19751 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm way smarter nowadays, but there's no way in hell I was that ignorant when I was 24.
@user-roninwolf1981
@user-roninwolf1981 2 жыл бұрын
"You can't force people to get vaccinated." Schools require their students be vaccinated. Hell, the military herself requires all of the troops to be up to date with vaccinations. Refusing to get vaccinated is considered Dereliction of Duty.
@waltmccarthy9837
@waltmccarthy9837 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. These people argue against the right of abortion by ignoring the Ninth Amendment and insisting, “there is no right to abortion in the Constitution.” Okay, well does the Constitution explicitly state you have a right to refuse a vaccination during a pandemic?
@TylerMelnychuk
@TylerMelnychuk 2 жыл бұрын
you know they answer this in the video right?
@rustyshackleford735
@rustyshackleford735 2 жыл бұрын
You can't force people to be vaccinated (except in cases were a person's freedoms are considered void, such as in military service), but that doesn't mean you are forced to allow them to freely endanger others with unrestricted intermingling.
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 2 жыл бұрын
your comment exposing their lack of knowledge reminds of the polls that shows the majority of Conservatives believe in Laws that are not even in the constitution, like I was reading this poll with multiple questions and a lot of them thought multiple things that are not in the constitution is in the constitution. like they literally just Guess what's the right thing to do is on a very serious subject, which basically means they're Feelings over Facts.
@Khalkara
@Khalkara 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustyshackleford735 We absolutely can force people to get vaccinated outside of those specific contexts, and after we have vaccinated the willing in the 3rd world, we should force the remainder.
@philipvipond2669
@philipvipond2669 2 жыл бұрын
"What HIPAA laws can your employer violate?" Unless your employer is also your doctor, none. No matter how hard they try.
@TLofHTown
@TLofHTown 2 жыл бұрын
This is not entirely true - your employer's Benefit Administration team may have access to your PHI (via sign up sheets and billing resolution documentation, for example) and if/when they do, they are thus covered by HIPAA laws. However, an employer asking about your vaccine status does not run afoul of any HIPAA laws. The caller is completely wrong in his understanding of HIPAA.
@knavishknight
@knavishknight 2 жыл бұрын
@@TLofHTown "The caller is completely wrong in his understanding of HIPAA." Maybe he's right in his udnerstanding of the non-existent HIPPA law.🙄
@marcocassone5996
@marcocassone5996 11 ай бұрын
It’s so funny to see how some people twist themselves into pretzels to adhere to a dogma. It’s so frustrating too, I feel like half the problems of society are because certain people can’t concede even a single point.
@therealgaragegirls
@therealgaragegirls 11 ай бұрын
16:20 Bro doesn't even know what a pandemic is! LMFAO
@ibringit987
@ibringit987 2 жыл бұрын
I love how it didn't take long for the cognitive dissonance to kick in 'I think if people test positive for something, they should stay home and not work till they recover!' *So you're for mandatory testing?* 'No!'
@jeremyr722
@jeremyr722 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It’s honestly mind numbing how far gone conservatives are
@ibringit987
@ibringit987 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyr722 It's the perfect summation of their perspective on covid they hate the pandemic but want to take none of the measures necessary for preventing it lol they just want to complain
@DaMasta_Sho_Nuff
@DaMasta_Sho_Nuff 2 жыл бұрын
That’s when I was like here we go…🤔🙄
@sonic8005
@sonic8005 2 жыл бұрын
It's a recurring issue with these guys. It's why the likes of Jimmy Dore and Steven Crowder don't teach these guys how to debate ideas but rather to regurgitate talking points without scrutinizing them.
@ibringit987
@ibringit987 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonic8005 I also think it's just inherent to conservative belief. I've not had a single conversation with a conservative in which they're able to articulate what they believe and *Why* they believe it it's wild
@Nillllllllllllll
@Nillllllllllllll 2 жыл бұрын
Wow it's almost like he crawled into an echo chamber in 2020 and managed to not learn anything at all about this, truly special people
@Kabob_King
@Kabob_King Жыл бұрын
Only one issue here. As far as I’ve been able to determine, there was no effective vaccine for influenza during the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. There was a vaccine against a bacterial agent incorrectly believed to cause influenza. Influenza wasn’t isolated until 1933, and the first influenza vaccine was developed by Jonas Salk in 1938. If anyone was vaccinated in 1918, it wasn’t effective against the pandemic flu.
@dallasheard6570
@dallasheard6570 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure my IQ dropped at least a point after that
@exploderwrestlingpodcast2721
@exploderwrestlingpodcast2721 2 жыл бұрын
I ALMOST felt bad for this kid. He was so unprepared he didn't even know how bad he was about to get rocked.
@debraann8412
@debraann8412 Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame he didn’t bring up the fact that the so called “Covid vaccine” was/is an experimental drug, not a tested/proven safe vaccine.
@dearrationals
@dearrationals Жыл бұрын
He is not a "kid". He is an adult male and should be treated as such.
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
​@@dearrationals maybe he should act like an adult then.
@Tenchigumi
@Tenchigumi Жыл бұрын
The best part is that he almost certainly thought he was SUPER prepared. I'm almost kind of jealous; I wish I could have that kind of naive confidence again. It might not win me any arguments against truly educated people, but I bet it would really impress my assuredly idiotic friend group.
@satyasyasatyasya5746
@satyasyasatyasya5746 2 жыл бұрын
How are these people real? Honestly. "Shouldn't have to this! Shouldn't have to do that!" Dude, this isn't a political debate, this is a 24 year old teenager with the intellectual energy of "STAY OUT OF MY ROOM! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!" It's just so tiresome. They are arguing against the very things that make their lives livable because they have no notion of what the world was like before all these rules, laws and regulations. Their 'arguments' would create a world of untold suffering, disease and poverty. Its just delusional.
@therealivydawg
@therealivydawg 2 жыл бұрын
When Trump said covid isn't a big deal that gave them permission to be this way.
@snoopy_peanuts_77
@snoopy_peanuts_77 2 жыл бұрын
hence why conservatives want to keep them even dumber by stripping away any meaningful education and shoveling them into religious/sanitized indoctrination schools
@topleftfromtime
@topleftfromtime 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to everything you said my G. Kid is a literal NPC
@BH-fi1sb
@BH-fi1sb 2 жыл бұрын
well, as they continue to cut education....
@maynardthegreat
@maynardthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
So you would be for mandating this covid vax that doesn’t stop you from giving or getting covid and all the subsequent boosters?
@RiddleR78
@RiddleR78 6 ай бұрын
So funny how he tried to trap Sam with the my body my choice line and then Sam asks him to elaborate on his statement to point out the stupidity of it.
@seymourbabooms1694
@seymourbabooms1694 10 ай бұрын
"This tiny personal liberty is more important than your life"
@doug6723
@doug6723 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when Trumpers try to debate someone halfway intelligent. It’s not even a fair fight.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
@RunForPeace-hk1cu 2 жыл бұрын
Sam is well above halfway intelligent my man. That’s like say Michael Brooks is halfway intelligent.
@barbarac9805
@barbarac9805 2 жыл бұрын
The dumb kid believed a bunch of conspiracy theories about the safety of the vaccines and then tried to have Sam answer questions about the vaccines that he himself can't answer and doesn't understand. It was just something someone told him was bad and that he should be scared about. lol Right-wing propaganda rots your brain. That kid is so confused. lol
@KD--sj8eo
@KD--sj8eo 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu think he just meant it as an expression.
@Yungrexy
@Yungrexy 2 жыл бұрын
@@KD--sj8eo think RunForPeace just meant it as a joke.
@jayz8839
@jayz8839 2 жыл бұрын
Could be a Bernie Bro since Bernie is the anti-Big Pharma guy, Trump is vaxxed.
@jbarlak
@jbarlak Жыл бұрын
This guy was a gem. I worked at a pharma company where we were swabbed prior to clocking in. This last for a long until the vaccine was available. It was done to make sure production continued and to keep coworkers safe.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je Жыл бұрын
Quality hospitals mandate certain vaccines.
@pepelapiu2004
@pepelapiu2004 Жыл бұрын
Much like Seder in the video, you are not making a logical or moral arguement. Your arguement is deeply flawed. So you were forced to get vaxxed to keep your pharma job, and somehow that justifies forcing everyone else to get forced vax? If your employer infringes on your basic human rights, that doesn't mean the government infringing on your human rights is anymore acceptable.
@danielcox9504
@danielcox9504 Жыл бұрын
This aged well, first off masks did not work secondly these specific vaccines work but don't work basically to save 1 hospitalisation you have to vax around 160 thousand people to prevent 1 death it's around 3 or 4 hundred thousand need vaccinating. It doesn't stop transmission either, you can argue we didn't know that but some Dr's and scientists did tell us all this early on.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je Жыл бұрын
@@danielcox9504 I always listen to the guys like you who pull numbers out of their asses and ram all the words into one sentence with weird-ass punctuation. Keep preaching, tinfoil!
@pepelapiu2004
@pepelapiu2004 Жыл бұрын
@@danielcox9504 In fact I remember exactly Pfizer telling us exactly that as the vax was being released: does not prevent the spread, does not prevent infection, it only makes symptoms easier.
@CLJ9676
@CLJ9676 Жыл бұрын
This aged well😂
@sethy0404
@sethy0404 Жыл бұрын
This CALLER is SOOOOO IGNORANT....
@NoleenRankin
@NoleenRankin 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, money well spent. For the audience, not for him. x)
@JayP80Geno
@JayP80Geno Жыл бұрын
I was also pretty miserable and selfish at 24. This kid still has time to hopefully figure it out.
@shayslay3416
@shayslay3416 2 жыл бұрын
"MY GIRLFRIEND IS BLACK!!!" He's been waiting the whole 3 years to use that just to f*ck it up lmao 🤦🏾‍♀️
@sekokhan5307
@sekokhan5307 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@lastx2534
@lastx2534 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t speak for all Black people but as a Black person if my SO we’re to say this we would definitely have a talk about it when we got home.
@quitstalin
@quitstalin 2 жыл бұрын
The producer (or whoever) brought it up. It was a directly relevant response
@VincentTroia
@VincentTroia 2 жыл бұрын
@@quitstalin what? lol no. go back and listen. the mr staff guy didn’t not bring up black people, the caller did. the staffer mused that maybe it was for racist reasons he thinks immigration is a problem, because it conclusively isn’t for economic reasons, if it is at all. then the caller said hey i have a black girlfriend, implying he can’t be racist because of that, which is hilarious.
@quitstalin
@quitstalin 2 жыл бұрын
@@VincentTroia whether he can or can't be racist is irrelevant. What is relevant is mr staff guy's claim that he only cares about "white demographics" a la great replacement theory. The caller having "biracial" children is demonstrative of not caring about white demographics since his own personal choices have the effect of reducing white demographics. The way for him to have biracial children is with his non-white wife who he identifies as black. All of this is relevant and the only thing comical is you guys think this is any more good faith than when Steven Crowder filled up the room with his nonsense sidekicks. mr staff guy and co-host should stay out it, because they're just interjecting little jabs into someone else's conversation and lots of times it doesn't even seem like Seder appreciates it
@spittinglama91
@spittinglama91 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised Sam didn't catch this, but HIPAA laws actually only apply to people in the healthcare industry and anybody asking someone about their medical history isn't a violation. HIPAA laws involve the protection of your private medical information from the servicers and the people who store that information. Ex: A hospital cannot share your medical information with anyone without your consent. But if someone ASKS YOU your medical information and you tell them, you have therefore consented to having them know. Now of course you don't have to provide someone your private medical information if you don't want to, but they also reserve the right not to provide you with a job if you can't verify that you are not a medical danger to the other employees around you.
@rcodyromero
@rcodyromero 2 жыл бұрын
I caught that, too. I was like Yo Emma, Sam, tell this kid HIPAA applies to providers that store your information. Its not illegal for people to ask you questions lol
@Armeddragon12
@Armeddragon12 2 жыл бұрын
But doesn't it change the situation if you are REQUIRED TO ANSWER the question in order to get a job? That is what I figured the difference was in accordance to the HIPAA violation. Otherwise how would the workplace know if you are telling the truth or not?
@ShimrraJamaane
@ShimrraJamaane 2 жыл бұрын
@@Armeddragon12 Employers can require health standards for their employees if there is an articulable need for doing so. HIPAA is only a law that affects healthcare providers or those who process medical information.
@spittinglama91
@spittinglama91 2 жыл бұрын
@@Armeddragon12 brother, you have to pass drug tests to get jobs too.
@Chance57
@Chance57 2 жыл бұрын
These people would have you believe if you walked up to a random person on the street and asked them (random survey) If they've ever been sick with anything, you've committed a crime. They really believe that if they have a cold and you know about it and you tell someone else about that, you've broken the law. That's exactly how they think HIPPA works. No strawman. No exaggeration. That's it. It's absurd.
@doc-holliday-
@doc-holliday- Жыл бұрын
Conservatives: "I want all of the benefits of living in society but none of the responsibility. I also want to contribute absolutely nothing and take as much as possible."
@neilmcfadden9760
@neilmcfadden9760 Жыл бұрын
Liberals "I want to cut my kids privates off, expose them to naked drag queens at story time.. I voted for a pedo who showered with his daughter and sniffs little girls hair.. "
@alespron11
@alespron11 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I know how this guy feels. My parents also forced me to eat broccoli when I was 6 and I never will forgive them for that!
@ninadiamant8937
@ninadiamant8937 2 жыл бұрын
same.
@ArchArturo
@ArchArturo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an enforcement of Big Broccoli 🤣
@jmag4527
@jmag4527 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ShaithMaster
@ShaithMaster 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like broccoli now. See, I matured and acquired a taste for it even though my mom wouldn't let me go play kickball with my friends until I'd at least had 3 pieces. Mature people eat broccoli and get vaccinated. I would assume this guy only eats meat like Jordan Peterson.
@jacobbarbee386
@jacobbarbee386 2 жыл бұрын
Lima beans 🤢🤮
@vincesmith2499
@vincesmith2499 2 жыл бұрын
Requiring your employees to get vaccinated DOES NOT VIOLATE HIPAA.
@Sidkain
@Sidkain 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I love when people bring up HIPAA around things like this. It clearly shows they just learned an acronmym and throw it around wherever they want. HIPAA only has to do with confidentiality with your doctor and third parties. Any Joe Schmoe can walk up to you on the sidewalk and ask about your health and they aren't going to be violeting any law. You have every right to keep that information to yourself, but HIPAA has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
@user-oj7uc8tw9r
@user-oj7uc8tw9r 5 ай бұрын
I hope this guy got vaccinated 1000 times
@yoloactual6975
@yoloactual6975 Жыл бұрын
So you open an argument with a false dichotomy, alleging that because someone doesn't want to be forcibly vaccinated, that they must also be comfortable with untreatable and demonstrably deadly illnesses in the workplace. What an absolutely ignorant way to "debate" anyone.
@n.h.moreno
@n.h.moreno 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that one time Shelley came to work and didn't disclose her abortion at 17 yrs-old and we all caught a severe case of abortion. That was the line. If you don't report something that everyone can catch----you are in trouble.
@1018Tim
@1018Tim 2 жыл бұрын
This guy seriously brought up "My Body, My Choice" with vaccines then wanted to argue Roe vs. Wade. 🤣
@boywonder6659
@boywonder6659 Жыл бұрын
It’s the other way round. “My body my choice” advocate vaccine mandates. How does that work? What about the baby’s body. The figures for the deaths caused by covid were bogus. I know of a death attributed to covid where the dude was killed in a car crash. It said covid on the death certificate.
@1018Tim
@1018Tim Жыл бұрын
@@boywonder6659 The point is you always had a choice. You never HAD to take the vaccine. The company you work for has the right to require specific vaccines for their workforce. And they are well within their rights no longer employ you if you do not have the vaccine. You can find work that doesn't require it. A fetus doesn't show consciousness until nearly 5 months in. It doesn't know it exists. It is wholly dependent on the mother for survival and it's body cannot sustain life without her. The "spark of life" is derived from religious text and has no place in law in this country. As far as counting covid deaths... Even if 10% of the deaths were misreported, which is highly unlikely, it's still more than 900,000 deaths. Claiming that the numbers are bogus is ignorant at best. I'm assuming you're just spouting the Republican talking point about the guy who died in a motorcycle accident in Florida. He tested positive for covid post death and so it was listed as a contributing factor. Well the CDC reviewed that case and rejected it so your point is moot.
@GetOwnedKid1
@GetOwnedKid1 Жыл бұрын
It really is your choice though. Y'all love spewing that shit only when it comes to your agenda. Keep licking the boot of the government
@corruptgunslinger
@corruptgunslinger Жыл бұрын
Yeah and didn't even respond to the obvious things said like abortions aren't contagious.
@GetOwnedKid1
@GetOwnedKid1 Жыл бұрын
@@corruptgunslinger the flu is contagious too but we never saw people taking inhumane measures to control it you goddamn sheep.
@MDSlatanica
@MDSlatanica Жыл бұрын
As I listened to this guy's rantings I was constantly torn between facepalming or laughing out loud.
@davidbonilla7770
@davidbonilla7770 Жыл бұрын
“I’m going to have to do some research” 😅😅😅
@jcash49
@jcash49 2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious watching right wing logic fall apart when they claim to be all about freedom, but then proceed to explain how they only care about their own rights. Them: "The govt should not mandate anything to protect public health." Also them: "The govt should mandate against all things I don't agree with."
@stinkyham9050
@stinkyham9050 2 жыл бұрын
Thats not a right wing thing, that's a radicalized thing. When people are too right or too left they make up their minds before even thinking about the issues. I have a radical leftist friend who has told me many times that I should lose my right to vote because I always vote conservative (we live in Canada) and all others like me. He believes the only people that should be on the ballot running are liberals. He's also said multiple times that anyone not believing in liberal ideology should be force by law. I've explained to him that he's describing a dictatorship but he says that impossible because it would be a liberal government. There's radical politics on all sides.
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 Жыл бұрын
@@stinkyham9050 - A sample size of ONE to demonstrate that those on the left are radicalized?
@stinkyham9050
@stinkyham9050 Жыл бұрын
@@HalfCrazy520 No its not just one person but it's not like I can leave a comment explaining the circumstances around every radical leftist thing I see or radical leftist person I meet. I do have a quick radical leftist for you though, he's the Prime Minister of my country Justin Trudeau. He's the most perfect example of a true woke radically left ass bag that I could think of and he runs the country I live in. Pretty good example don't you think?
@stinkyham9050
@stinkyham9050 Жыл бұрын
@@HalfCrazy520 Also I didn't say ALL those on the left are radical I simply said there are radical politics on all sides.
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 Жыл бұрын
@@stinkyham9050 You can't 'both sides' this... The radicals on the right are advocating for a civil war, while the radicals on the left advocate for universal healthcare and common sense gun control. Big difference.
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 2 жыл бұрын
This guy changes the topic every single time he’s losing the argument.
@theredboneking
@theredboneking Жыл бұрын
Cancer up 117,000 since the 💉
@chadchaddingson4675
@chadchaddingson4675 Жыл бұрын
it's what they do though
@FBOMBS4you
@FBOMBS4you 8 ай бұрын
Sam eating is peak disrespect
@russellh9894
@russellh9894 Ай бұрын
5:00 Its annoying when anti vax people bring up abortion and "my body, my choice" as if that will make the pro vaccine people say "welp, they got us there. I guess there's nothing we can do." while the anti vax people will then turn around and say a woman must remain pregnant against their will. It would be one thing if the anti vax person was also pro choice, but the whole thing becomes disingenous when the anti vax person is also anti abortion / pro forced birth.
@patteraj
@patteraj 2 жыл бұрын
This guy outed himself as a Crowder fan right at the beginning. “You counted that as a win, huh?” “I counted that as a loss.” A fumble right at the beginning and the guy debating Sam just kept on fumbling😆
@termsofusepolice
@termsofusepolice 2 жыл бұрын
I could see Crowder listening to this debate and then DM'ing the kid saying, "You hit it out of the park! Your command of the facts and razor sharp reasoning made Sam look just like the know-nothing, radical leftist fool that he is!"
@machineman8388
@machineman8388 2 жыл бұрын
Sam just pulled some 8-mile shit lol going no I count that as a loss. Genius honestly to pre-empt whatever the little smarmy kid had to say with that, it shut him right up
@Chimponaut
@Chimponaut 2 жыл бұрын
The main problem with someone like this is that they want to believe in these things, and that's all they need for motivation.
@fredeisele1895
@fredeisele1895 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Sam's point but I think Sam lost this debate. He used all the worst rhetoric.
@GalactusOG
@GalactusOG Жыл бұрын
Both my ex wives are Black and they call me racist all the time.
@michaelmckay1782
@michaelmckay1782 2 жыл бұрын
This dude has no idea what HIPAA is and the second he insinuated asking vaccination status was a violation of HIPAA Sam should have hung up on him. The caller is massively uninformed.
@dangeerraaron
@dangeerraaron 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say, if the hosts understood whom HIPAA applies to (ie not this caller, unless he is an ignorant health care professional/worker) , they could've called them out immediately that the particular law does not apply in the scenario he presented.
@JeffCraigPhotos
@JeffCraigPhotos 2 жыл бұрын
That was just painful to watch. That poor kid thought he was gonna own you only to end up looking like a whiney, uneducated fool. Sam, you were far nicer than I would have been. These kind of people need to feel embarrassed to the point they never speak again. Keep doing the lords work my friend!
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 2 жыл бұрын
I would hope this pantsing will remind him why he's a lil pos and that he needs to work on himself. Wonder how his so called black gf feels about him being a boot licker for fart right mass shooter influencers... Whatever the case... just wow lol. He's only 24... I was dumb af back then too but he's pretty bad lol.
@MSRendrag
@MSRendrag Жыл бұрын
14:55 The caller just said the government should be allowed to constrain private corporations. And here I thought right-wingers HATED government regulation of corporate America.
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