A pro gun control, anti Israel, 5G truther is such a rare combo. This has gotta be a bingo

When these people talk to us about the dangers of 5G and Wi-Fi, we should be encouraging them wholeheartedly to stop going on the internet.

Why is it always, "SAM, I LOVE YOU, I AM ON YOUR SIDE, I LOVE WHAT YOU SAY ! " is a forerunnner to a really terrible take ?

caller: "I've 'tooken' some philosophy courses." me: : I've gotta go."

Does he sleep in a faraday cage? And he of course can't walk in the daylight, because of ionization. So my belief is this guy is secretly a vampire, and wants a more vampire friendly world.

He’s “tooken” philosophy classes.

Just off the top, governments can make laws that are not based on sound science. It happens all the time. The existence of these bans does nothing to prove WiFi is harmful.

Back when I was a kid, the older generation believed we got radiation from sitting too close to a color TV

Him choosing not to answer the question shows an inability to say “I don’t know “, this presents a lot of problems in determining truth

Really nice of Chuck McGill to call in.

Instant cult classic

Watching Sam & Emma's physical reaction to these bozos is my favorite part of these debates

Emma has a sunburn probrably caused by WiFi

His only relevant argument was that some European countries had removed WiFi from certain public places, like schools. What he didn't seem to realise though is that their reason for doing so has nothing to do with radiation possibly being harmful. It is because constant access to the Internet and social media rots your brain if you are not mature enough to handle it, as per his own example!

The caller doesn't even understand that non ionizing radiation includes sunlight

I tried to look up some of the studies and info that this caller stated, but they only lead me to anti-5G websites. Shocking...

‘I’ve tooken philosophy classes’

As Emma points out, almost all the studies he cites are about banning KIDS USING phones in class. Like, because kids were making calls and texting and playing games there are a bunch of schools who are trying to figure out ways to block or ban cellphones. Not about radiation exposure, but about classroom disruption.

2:18 European Union regulations are all based on a “prove it is safe before it is allowed to cause exposure” model versus the US regulations are typically based on a reactive model exemplified by “we have found it to be unsafe, so we’ll prohibit its usage”. While electromagnetic fields may be damaging, and there is not enough substantial evidence to say it definitively and perfectly safe, it does not mean that it is unsafe (and there just isn’t a lot of concrete evidence to say it’s a very serious hazard either). Risk reduction is awesome, and if something that might pose a harm can be prevented from harming people we should do that unless it poses some more realizable risk to not do it (like it might be more risky, harmful, or inconvenient to not have electricity in houses and hospitals, than the risk of the EM radiation poses). But that also doesn’t mean that EM radiation is also definitively bad for us.

Caller tried to appeal to Sam's ethos by bringing up Sam's friend who committed suicide. Disingenuous af

My ears perk up when I hear my area code. Then he proceeds to jump into 5g conspiracy crap... "Shit."

I expected the caller to launch into 5G in the vaccines next.....disappointed to say the least🤣

“Thank you for everything you do, it’s really important…. “ Goes on to a full on *TAKE THE TOWERS DOWN NOW* insane rant

My mother is a lot like this caller, just far more delusional…this was depressing. I’m glad I’m in the minority, because people like me will never find amusement in this. These people are sick, and our entire system failed them. Propagators of this dangerous hooey like RFK, Joe Rogan, Andreas Kalcker, etc should be fined into oblivion

Can't wait for the Tooken trilogy.

He almost defeated Sam by putting Sam to sleep. Defeated me that way that's for sure...

I got 99 problems, but wifi ain't one of them. Goddamn. Someone smart talked about political priorities and what it says about you and this caller embodies that point perfectly.

Holy fuck, there's this type of person that just refuses to answer direct questions

This was just after a seperate rough 20+ minute call about Ukraine, the collective groan in the chat as he kept going on.

Gave him more time than he deserves. In the meantime, our water supplies all have pfas, which seems like a more serious problem than something that could be solved with a tinfoil hat. Seriously though, I remember there was a study decades ago about mobile phones causing brain tumors. It seems like some studies would have revealed something about that by now.

WIFI operates at frequency of 2.4Ghz which is 12.5cm wavelength which does not affect the human body in any significant way. We have had wifi tech for a long time where a lot of people are "exposed" to this for pretty much most of their day to day lives. If there was any truth to the harmful effects of this, we would be seeing an increase in cancer rates, health complications, mass die offs which could be attributed to this, but we dont. Countless studies including ones from WHO which specifically created a project for EMF have found no evidence of harm. In very select few studies on rats there was little discrepency from the consensus observed but it was mostly inconclusive and needed to be replicated and studied more to oppose the consensus. Most people dont understand radiation. Light is radiation. The important part about radiation is that its a spectrum, some of which is ionizing and some of which is non ionizing. Ionizing meaning it will throw electrons out of atoms which needless to say is worrying and fatal. Non ionizing radiation on the other hand can be harmful at high frequencies and shorter wavelengths because they can cause heating (like microwave ovens) and in some cases damage to your eyes because duhh. The frequencies for wifi and other wireless communication tech does not reach said harmful frequencies. I may have missed something out so I apologise but this is the gist of it.

I sure hope this guy doesn't own or ever use a microwave.

Ugh. This is why education is important. If this dude had a solid educational foundation, he'd have known enough about physics, or biology, or chemistry, or heck even advertising (because that's all "5G" is: marketing) to know that there's nothing to worry about here. Makes me sad :/

As a 2 way radio technician, this is a fun subject for me. According to the FCC, normal ground-level exposure from cellular towers is much less than the exposure that might be encountered if one were very close to the antenna and in its main transmitted beam. Measurements made near typical cellular and PCS cell sites have shown that ground-level power densities are well below the exposure limits recommended by RF/microwave safety standards used by the FCC. The answer to Sam's question is, yes. RF exposure damage is cumulative. And UV is non-ionizing radiation, which is why people can get skin cancer from sun bathing a lot. RF exposure has been extensively researched and exposure from consumer devices and commercial antennas is extremely restricted by the fcc. Contrary to intuition, thats one reason there are cell phone towers EVERYWHERE. The power your cellphone puts out is maybe 200mW. Which is very low, requiring a tower to be within 2 miles or closer to get a marginally reliable signal.

Where are all the 1G,2G,3G 4G peeps at... Do they have Cancer now too? I am a higher risk of getting cancer from Airplane fuel than Radio waves from 5G Technology

TBH this phone call made me want to "die suddenly" from my covid shots. As soon as as he was laying the gun violence heavily I knew he was buttering everyone up.

As somebody who lives in Australia, I definitely question the inclusion of Australia in his list of countries lowering or reducing 5G/Wi-Fi coverage.

I'm starting to think the MR is getting targeted. -On Friday a caller wanted to talk about engaging in violent protests. -Today, a caller said it was immoral to support Ukraine because Russia is more powerful and is destined to win. -And then this caller provided a litany of reports about potential harmful effect of WiFi without explaining the harm or causation. All 3 of these people claimed to be big fans of the show. I'm having trouble buying that.

Sam: Moving to the country. Gonna eat a lot of peaches Caller: that poison will kill you faster than bluetooth

More people have died from TikTok alone than from exposure to wifi, BT and 5G.

15:19 "I can understand why my cohosts and colleagues get mad at me." Did they pick a caller more longwinded than Sam on purpose? 😆

Next time call into Bret Weinstein or Glen Beck.

As someone who worked in the RF emission regulation industry, there are a lot of people like this. I'll try to explain the essentials for those who want to learn more about RF radiation. RF radiation is non-ionizing, it does not alter or change DNA. The main reason why RF CAN be dangerous, though it almost never is, is due to user error. Essentially, RF heats up your body a little bit when you are exposed to it. This can be dangerous when exposed to thousands of watts of RF in close proximity. The eyes and the "family jewels" lack adequate cooling, so it is possible to become blind or sterilized. Likewise, it is possible to develop flu-like symptoms when exposed to high amounts of RF. For those who are concerned, iPhones/Android devices, or even WiFi routers, do not produce anywhere near enough radiation to be a concern. This is why it is possible to be in a classroom/office full of smart devices without becoming blind. In fact, I attempted to measure various devices around the office, but the radiation was too weak to be detected. Those who are most in danger are RF technicians. They want to work on as many cellular sites as they can each day, in order to maximize their bonuses; however, this often means skipping mandatory indoor emission breaks. The emissions on rooftops are dangerous, this is why there will be blue/yellow/red warning signs on the rooftop doors, as well as barriers surrounding the antennas. If you are going to be on the rooftop of office buildings or public garages, then make sure you are not standing near antennas - some of them are mounted to the sides of the buildings. This is only a concern if you're eating a meal there, since side-mounted antennas are facing away. The danger zone of antennas is a few feet in front of them, their emissions often take the form of a cone. It's worth noting that not all antennas are equally dangerous, yagis and omnis are pole-like antennas that are pretty weak, there are rectangular 4-8 ft antennas that can be pretty strong, and microwaves (dishes) can be quite strong. Nowadays, 5G is the main concern for a lot of regulation. 5G antennas can be VERY strong, sometimes spilling emissions all over the rooftop of office buildings. Though, as is the case with other antennas, 5G is not a concern to those that follow safety guidelines. Finally, RF emissions are not necessarily constant. It's common for antennas to not blast rooftops at their full potential, they are sometimes even turned off during repairs or rooftop events. So even if you have a very powerful antenna next to you, it is possible that you could do so and remain unharmed. If you are paranoid about RF, you can buy professional-grade devices, they kinda look like pagers. They'll beep if you're exposed to dangerous radiation. TL;DR: If you are not hugging rooftop antennas, then you have nothing to worry about.

Belgium didn't ban the sale of smartphones to children under 7. Belgium banned certain phones MARKETED to children under 7 in September 2013. So, like phones that look like toys and not phones. Normal phones (even with cartoon characters on it) still can be bought for kids under 7. This just was a measure because the government hadn't a clear answer if it was harmful or not. Not because it concluded it WAS harmful. It was just never revised when more studies came in. Just to put this myth to bed.

mans cites dozens of studies, then all he can do to defend his position is essentially repeat the same sentence.

Don't forgot when people blamed microwaves to cause cancer lol

Bro did a whole ass podcast out front

Why do cookers just make up crap about Australia? a) We invented wifi b) Wifi and mobile usage here is endemic and 5G uptake is huge (partial because our broadband is mediocre)

And yet, the life expectancy of people in the civilized world has continued to rise, since the discovery and use of FM signals.

"The Nether Places" is my new favorite term for The Netherlands 😂 @ 2:45

"This is Matthew...?" 🤣

Seder: "Who's this? Where are you calling from?" Caller: "This is Mathew?" Oh, man...the first words out of his mouth sound like he's asking strangers if he got his own name correct. This can only get worse...

Doctors are the ones that use MRI and X-ray machines. But there is a risk/benefit cost involved. The risk of low grade exposure is negligible compared to the positives of the technology.

Ah, ok, Matt has corrected himself - knew he wouldn't disappoint!!!😂

I live for Sam debating anyone. It brings me Joy!

So many of these calls are the caller rambling for 10 minutes then Sam asks one question and the person falls apart

There’s always a guy like this in philosophy classes, and they are always a massive whinging, cringey mess.

Hello is this me?

So what is the medical condition he is alleging is caused by Wi-Fi? Bad stuff? Then what stuff, cancer, other diseases?

RIP to all those who tried to debate Sam.

I swear I ask myself everyday "why are ppl like this" (tbh i stole it from hasan). I just found out my older cousin is a conspiracy theorist (which was cool cause we never really had anything to bond over) but of course it's the nwo, 5g, project blue beam types 😢

7:54 A consensus among scientists? 😂

Somebody get this guy a wristband. Problem solved.

He’s from Portland, he has the same area code as me.

The title made me click so fast! Love when Sam debates kooks!! 😂

omg the thumbnail 😂

I named my WiFi CDC-5GDEATHRAYTESTING

He didn't seem so bad, his concern was at least genuine even if misguided. Seems like he agrees with Sam on most stuff

Lol once again, Thunderf00t debunked this entire fallacy in the “Zorb” video. The radiation from these things are far below the threshold of what human biology can regulate and regenerate. You get magnitudes more radiation on an average plane ride and that’s still safe.

this guy is pretty smart, he's tooken philosophy classes you know

I sure hope this guy is calling from a landline while he’s getting his info from his hardwired (only) computer to rattle off at Sam 😂

Sam has such fun demolishing these fatuous non-arguments😂

I think Sams face in the thumbnail says it all. Appealing to "overall health" problems when saying something is harmful isn't how you convince anyone of anything. Can he point to a correlation in some specific health problems sonce the advent of wifi to at least make a real case, even that in and of itself would be shaky evidence since correlation does not necessarily equal causation, and you can find a lot of corrections that are in fact not caused by each other.

He made claims about WiFi and Switzerland. I am a native Swiss and still live there, and his claims are not true. WiFi is not in decline. Quite the contrary. It's expanding massively.

Where does he get this info on who's reducing or considering reduction of these technologies? Cause I can't find it.

“Peak indulgence for Sam.” I love it.😂

The problem is that people don't understand that sunlight is also radiation.

As someone in the RF field. There's more danger in holding a cell phone to your head than 5G. Use Bluetooth if you're worried about that. But it's still fairly minimal.

Can't believe Peter Parker texted the show.

Other non-ionizing EMR: AM radio FM radio HD radio Satellite radio Sound itself Light itself Satellite TV The sun The moon Flying Many of these are many, many times the level of WiFi and cellular and nobody cares because, for the 947th time... it's understood to be safe at levels *far* above what the maximum output of routers and the radiation from cell towers are. I do love some of the proposed "solutions" to the "problem" by some of these people: "Limit your child's screen time to limit exposure." (Bruh, the device contributes very little to EMR exposure and you're still subjected it as long as the router is on.) "Turn your devices off when not in use." "Get your child tested for EMR exposure regularly." (I don't believe such a test exists? It doesn't seem to.) I did appreciate how quickly the caller folded and got defensive, though. A total crash and burn at the first question and total humiliation" "I just heard about the case, I didn't follow it!!!"

this is SO hard to listen to 😅 how did Sam's head not pop? mine would have. the stupidity actually physically hurts 😂

Absolutely false about Wifi bans in France, especially not for health concerns, wtf is he talking about

Sunshine consists primarily of radiation in infrared (IR), visible, and ultraviolet (UV) frequencies. Lasers also emit EM radiation in these "optical frequencies." The higher frequencies of EM radiation, consisting of x-rays and gamma rays, are types of ionizing radiation.

I have owned and used cell phone since 1986 and I have been a regular on the internet since 1995 and my body is not racked with cancer or any other ailment so I guess I'll just carry on

I think what they really want to say is that this stuff is metaphysically tainted on their very, hyper-specific frequencies, so it doesn't need to be consistent or be contrasted to anything similar or identical. That is pretty much the insinuation when you keep wanting to keep complete focus on the narrow scope he's outlined and dismiss any broader implications. Also, a case study in motivated reasoning when he preemptively declares that the FCC are either a trustworthy citation or complete liars depending on what conclusion they came to, that he never followed up on.

Matthew is unsure about his is own name. "My name is matthew?"

Your guy got it backwards right at the last minute, and I'm glad he fixed it. Ultraviolet and above are ionizing radiation. Everything with energys below visible light is non ionizing radiation. There is some controversy around this, but it has long been known that ionizing radiation causes harm. Ionizong means it will destroy chemical bonds, causing genetic damage, as well as free radicals, free peroxide molecules, etc.. And ionizing radiation can cause tissue damage directly at known high doses, and random effects such as cancer, birth deffects. fetal death etc. Non ionizing radiation has not been shown to cause any of these, but there are some hints that living in and around strong magnetic fields such as power lines MIGHT have some adverse effects. Still not in the textbooks, though Microwaves are non-ionizing radiation, as an example.

I know it was a 5G based convo, but their discussion on non ionizing & ionizing radiation effects on the body almost made me yell at my phone 😂

Watching this on Wifi using my Bluetooth headphones while on hold through my 5G phone. OH NO!

Ok, calling it: the caller is talking nonsense.

I've owned a mobile since pay as you go. I've attended at least one gig every year since that had 10s of thousand of people (with mobiles). All that radiation still hasn't made me a mutant 🤷‍♂️😂

7:30 longest 5 seconds of this man's life

Was this the aluminum foil guy from Better Call Saul calling in???

This stuff is all so easy to figure out: if it was dangerous, people would be getting sick and dying from it. Research complete.

My health has actually improved since they've increased wifi and 5g.

Light? What about water? What about chocolate chip cookies? Sam admits he doesn't know. So what is he trying to prove? Where is he going with his line of questioning? He is a dishonest fool

Lmao 🤣 the tin foil people never realize that they're the tin foil people. They think they're the smartest person in the room.

Once we figure out how to space travel at the speed of 5G, we've hit the peak. Light is dumb. Lol wtf

Hey MR crew, I really appreciate you posting this, while you may disagree with the caller, it's very big of you guys to still be fair about the record. It's not impossible that the same way some chemicals were correctly identified in the 1960s, it may come to pass that we later recognise other forms of pollution. Yes, sunlight has both ionizing radiation and non-ionizing radiation, however between several forms of supposedly identical non-ionizing radiation, there's a hell of a difference between visible light, xrays, ultraviolet infrared and microwaves. Yes, many of the types of radiation are present in space naturally/ just sunlight, we get exposed naturally in various ways, but proximity to source of some non-ionizing radiation should be judiciously managed.

My brain blood barrier is suffering from listening to people talk about WiFi at this point