'We deserve to feel safe on a subway, therefore, in conclusion, killing someone on a subway is fine.' I...how...WHAT?!

It's important to understand that Ben Shabibo is just not a good person.

As someone on the autism spectrum I can't help thinking how awful this could become for neurodivergent people.

No offense guys, but Americans seem to be the only ones with this view. This idea that if you ever feel unsafe you can escalate a situation to lethal violence and that's totally reasonable because of what MIGHT happen. It's truly insane to me.

Emma displayed empathy for another human being and Ben didnt understand what that was

Wait. Is Ben Shapiro asking for safe spaces?

Ben sounds like a weird AI, like he's loading these lines as he goes on about his way. It's like he's channeling Shatner

I agreed with Emma Vigeland then and I agree with her now. I once met a homeless woman who appeared threatening as she was cussing loudly and flailing her arms. I had just bought water, so I went to her and said, "It is hot out here. Would you like some water?" She was surprisingly grateful. A cop, on the other hand, would probably have shot her.

A man elbowed me on the train and made me uncomfortable so instant death sentence for them, got it, thanks Ben.

I was a support worker. People who have mental breaks in public are who I worked with. They don't deserve to die. They deserve better than I could give.

Emma: 'people who are struggling shouldn't be killed.' Bennie: 😭🤯

That the guy was killed is sadly the worst part. The horrible part is that nobody, absolutely nobody did anything to stop it. I guess the likes are more important. The subway in Los Angeles is basically "train to Busan" everyday.

Ben Shapiro was surprised that Emma didn’t want to murder someone for elbowing her

There’s a reason Ben decided not to practice law. He would be a terrible, terrible lawyer who would walk his client into every single trap the opposing lawyer set. He is just completely incapable of thinking of anything from any perspective other than his own. That is also known as being stupid. Really, really stupid.

Did homeboy just compare a kid having convulsions to threats of violence?

Tired of people demonizing the unhoused

15:29 The gap between "allowing yourself to be abused" by homeless people on public transit and straight up murdering the "abuser" puts the grand canyon to shame.

I was in the Marines for 12 years, we do teach this choke, it's one of the first techniques we're taught in boot camp. We're also taught to never hold this choke for longer than 8 seconds. He understood what could happen if he held that choke for that long and did it anyways, that is textbook second degree murder.

Yes Sam, its the exact same thing when a man says he will physically assault you if you don't feed him And a 13 yo girl who has a seizure on the train. 1000% the same, send a marine to choke out that kid ASAP! That is the "great debater" who has memes made out of him!? Really!? Never in my life have I seen such a huge leap in logic and false equivalency....its insane.

If you are in the middle class and hate the homeless, you really have to ignore the fact that you are much closer to that situation than you think.

There's nothing more cringe than watching Shapiro pretend to be the common man who takes public transportation on a regular basis.

WHO is the WE?? Probably the best analysis I've heard on this issue, hands-down. This pretty much summarizes why I look to The Majority Report for unpacking of the news. Thanks guys!

I was on the Chicago L last night. A man got on obviously having an episode. He yelled at people, got a little too close. It was intimidating and made people uncomfortable. All I could think was, please everyone would leave this man alone. I do not want to see anybody get hurt. He settled down and we all went on our way. These people need services not a death sentence.

I'm a marine vet and you're specifically taught that rear naked choke, standing and on the ground. The marines adopted the MCMAP, Marine Corps Martial Arts Program around 2002. it expanded on the basic combat stuff we were trained on in bootcamp. They have a colored belt system to indicate your training level. When applied correctly someone can pass out in seconds and it's quite easy to feel when someone goes limp.

I love Ben pretending he doesn't know who Emma is. The last thing The Daily Wire wants to do is pick a fight with Sam and TMR. Edit: Look at all the triggered lil snowflakes. Stop feeding the trolls guys. Most of these replies are the same guy using multiple accounts. Talking about you Alabama Man.

I remember how Fox treated Janeane Garofalo. It's been twenty years and it still makes me angry. Also, she was right.

My initial guess without knowing the background of that Marine, based off him being 24 and already out of the military, is he probably did a single 4 year enlistment. Which means he was *maybe* a Corporal (E-4), likely still a Lance Corporal (E-3), and probably either a tan or grey belt in MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program), which is a relatively low rank both ways. He probably knew enough to be dangerous, but lacked discipline and restraint. The technique he attempted to use *can* be used to subdue a person by rendering them unconscious, but when used incorrectly (as he did) or for too long (as he also did), it's certainly deadly. Applied correctly, it is a blood choke which will render a person unconscious within seconds, at which point you could theoretically restrain them while they regain consciousness. That's obviously not what happened. My guess is that he (and most police that attempt this) knew the basics well enough to try it, but not to a deep enough level to do it without killing the person. That combined with a lack of discipline and restraint is a deadly combination. Add to that the fact that MCMAP, and Marine training in general, is mostly offensive oriented. That leads to skills and a mindset that are very effective in combat, but less so in delicate situations like this. TLDR: he should have known better and stayed out of the situation until an actual threat presented itself. Source: fellow Marine veteran and civilian martial arts instructor with additional experience in federal security and military police.

As a Canadian, it just blows my mind the kind of dialogue that Americans are having in public. The fact that someone would argue that you should be able to MURDER someone for making you uncomfortable because of mental illness is just absolutely surreal. Canada isn't perfect by any means, but I feel confident in saying this kind of dialogue would NEVER happen in Canada among any popular/mainstream media figures (maybe in the darkest corners of some Neo-Nazi group). I am beginning to think that America is just too far gone. People are so used to this kind of barbaric take that it's because normalized and you don't even see how medieval you sound to people from other countries.

Watching someone get choked to death would make me feel way more uncomfortable than someone screaming about having no money.

Emma is a strong voice for humanity; her voice for compassion and real solutions to real problems gives hope!

Emma wants reform for people reduced to living on the street. That should be the takeaway.

Welcome to the majority reports world. Where you should be ok with being attacked, and abused on the subway system, and just allow it. BTW its rich to make jabs at ben for being rich when emma went to a 40k a year public school.

"Being beat up, being physically abused, is now part of the larger spectrum of humanity." -A guy that's never been punched in the face

Emma didn’t even say you had to tolerate being beat up; she said she even moved away from the man when he was having his episode. What she’s talking about is that being uncomfortable with a mentally ill person on the subway doesn’t give you the right to kill them

Bourgeois? Christ, this show is pathetic.

I love that even in the heavily edited out of context clip Emma still comes across as rational, level headed, and highly empathetic

Imagine seeing someone you don't like and just killing them. I meet aggressive beggars on the streets every day, I'm not going around killing them. What kind of serial killer psychopath thinking does someone need to do this?

"No one like being beat up on the subway system." (proceeds to ignore man who was murdered on the subway system) They don't think homeless people count as people.

It's actually quite amazing that Ben Shapiro can just open his mouth, and utter a single syllable, and immediately come across as an enormous tool. Like, I'm impressed by the gumption it takes to decide: "I'm going to become the biggest tool in the world." Bravo, Ben, bravo

I'm a Marine vet. He would have had the same training I and all Marines, combat or non-combat, get in MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program). We learn to do chokes, and are specifically trained to know the difference between a blood choke (a choke than can be non-lethal if done correctly and for the right amount of time which can make someone pass out) and an air choke (which blocks breathing and can be lethal in a short time). Both can be lethal over an extended period of time. We are told this, we are shown this. We train on each other repeatedly to get the blood choke correct. He KNOWS this information. He was trained in boot camp and we continue this training annually throughout our time in service. The fact he also could have done several non-lethal restraining holds as he approached him from behind are options he would have been trained in. He purposely chose a choke hold. He purposely held it on Neely for 15 minutes and KNOWS it would be lethal for that amount of time. This is not manslaughter, this is murder. And any good prosecutor will use his Marine training to show he knew exactly what he was doing. And while I will always stand by and support my fellow Devil Dogs, when they go bad, when they lose their honor and integrity, they should get the punishment they deserve. Semper Fi.

Ben Shapiro has never taken public transportation in his entire life lol

As a MArine Veteran, who was a green belt MCMAP instructor We are taught the blood chokes, we are also taught that it cuts off blood flow to the brain, so when we trained on each other we would tap out after only a few seconds because we would lose consciousness. Daniel Penny Knew what he was doing and kept choking him while he lost consciousness and continued to cut off all blood flow to his brain. Now it would be one thing if Jordon was a shooter on the train, or had a knife and was stabbing people, but even then, he could release pressure every 5 seconds to let him get blood from to his brain. He did not do that. He let him go brain dead for the crime of making people uncomfortable. This is second degree murder.

Don’t threaten people and you won’t end up dead.

Ben attacking Emma?!?!?! THIS MEANS WAR!!!!!

If Emma doesn't do a Ben impression, she absolutely should

I was on a subway as a teen and a guy next to me cried on my shoulder. He literally put his head on my shoulder and cried for 3 stops. When I reached my stop, I told him that I had to go. He said "thank you" and that was the end of the interaction.

If someone is out of control on a subway, a bus, on the street corner. I see no problem with someone stepping in to protect others. However, he took the man down. 99.9% would understand that what they are doing is not going to be allowed. The person should be able to sit and act right until his stop. Not be held on the floor for 15 minutes by the neck. In no way is that acceptable, especially to kill the man. We pay courts to punish those that break the law. It's not some young man's job to be an on the spot executioner without a trial. This is America.

The depravity of Ben saying "G-d bless you" condescendingly to Emma for doing what our G-d would want us to do. The fact that Ben's kippah doesn't burn up when it touches his head puzzles me.

Emma's take on people not wanting to see 'undesirables' is spot on. Maybe try to ensure that people don't end up in that situation in the first place...just a thought Ben. Emma, you're awesome.

Sam, you seriously going to act like Ben is too elitist to ride public transport when right next to you, you have a woman who went to a grade school that costs more than most people spend on private university??? Emma went to Kent Place School, ~$23,000 for Junior Pre-K!!! Wtf is junior pre-K LMAO?? Now THATS some elitism. (~$50,000 for grades 9-12) Like a million dollars her parents spent on her to graduate high school. FFS

I was once on the 7 train, a few women sitting aboard, and a guy, no shirt or shoes, carrying a trash bag, yelling and throwing his bag around. The women all seemed frightened. He appeared mentally unbalanced. I did what I saw orderlys at a mental hospital my brother was staying in did. I yelled at the top of my lungs "SIT DOWN!". He sat down immediately and was quiet the rest of the ride. Thats all it took

The right is really not liking the pro life argument Emma’s making in that clip.

As a father of a child with severe disabilities, some of his diagnoses are non-verbal ASD, global childhood developmental delay, and medically intractable epilepsy. For him to have an episode, an unnerving moment, or something that would disturb people who are not familiar with the world of caregivers to disabilities, would be a very bad reaction. Currently, the only solution I have for this is advocacy, but some people just do not understand. Thank you for trying to show compassion and pointing out that they deserve to feel safe as well.

Emma is so smart. The point she made about why her clip went viral with right wingers: the fact that she challenged their fantasy of saving the damsel in distress is spot on!

I freakin love the epilepsy example. My son has severe epilepsy and he becomes very agitated prior to a grand mal seizure. As an epileptic he would have no choice but to take public transportation, but now he has to risk some fool killing him because of that? And Emma is a queen,. That is all

The marine knew what he was doing. You don't put someone in that type of hold without realizing what it will do.

These people should have just left this Shapiro thing alone. They sound rediculous trying to clean up the idiotic statement she made. Then she tries to say conservatives don’t want blacks on the subway? What an atrocious equivocation

Ben Shapiro wasn't bullied enough as a kid. Whoever let him out of the locker he was stuffed into needs to put him back.

It's fair to assume that he intended to kill him, Sam. Having trained BJJ for years, I can tell you, it takes minutes after someone goes unconscious for a choke to become lethal. The choker has to keep choking throughout that entire time. There's no way he didn't know exactly what he was doing.

Matt said it. Neely was asking for food. If the marine wanted to restrain him, if he wanted conflict resolution (as all the passengers wanted), he could have offered him a coke and a sandwich. It could have been that easy. It's disgusting how things played out considering all he wanted was a meal.

He had 15 minutes of video to work with and he still couldn't find a clip that could make him seem like the reasonable one.

I like how both of you completely ignore that Neely had 44 previous arrests including assault on an elderly woman and the day before the chokehold incident he tried to push someone on to the train tracks.

Ben acting like it's our American Duty to eradicate the poor. Bro they really do forget that anyone can end up on the street. My mom's a literal city worker and she got evicted. Neely could've been anyone else and still wouldn't have deserved death. Even from a religious standpoint Ben is being an absolute monster.

Emma does such an amazing job at conveying her point and doing so in a passionate and compassionate way. You can really tell that everyone on MR really cares about peoples' welfare and advocating for systemic changes that will benefit society as a whole. Benny Shapino on the other hand doesn't care if houseless, poor, mentally ill people are killed for the crime of existing around everyone else.

Honestly surprised comments are enabled on this video... to compare a 13 year old girl to a fully grown male just the weight difference alone is one way to determine who would be a bigger threat... the main overall issue is our ability to defend ourselves as americans when the situation is about to turn bad

11:53 This is Emma truth telling like no other. It’s amazing in how absolutely accurate it is.

Emma based

For many years I worked at a Cafe and had a lot of encounters with homeless and substance abusers. I cannot count how many times I've been personally threatened by someone like the Jordan Neely. I've only needed to call the police once. And I have not done more than raised my voice or shaken a broom at someone. I've been scared or angry but that fear is not enough to justify murdering someone. We don't have guns here like in the US but I am a lot more scared of knives. Two of my friends have been stabbed and in a lot of situations you won't even have time to react. And a lot of homeless and drug addicts here have sharp objects so I assumed they were armed in those situations.

I'm okay with the chokehold. I'm as blue and liberal as the next person. I see nothing wrong with this. Sorry. Wrong martyr to hold up for the cause.

This is such a tell that they never travelled on public transport. A lot of times there are people behaving annoyingly or being a nuissance there. Noone who lives in the city and uses public transport would think of killing them all, it's insane.

They totally sped up Emma's clip 10 or 15 %. Probably to make Ben appear normal😂

Ben is advocating a "Final Solution" to homeless people.

Emma's a superstar, and a super human being; intelligent, rational and not extreme, then there's Shapiro

Funny how people like Ben don’t want to focus on the whole mental health aspect of this story because they’re not having to defend the second amendment

Sen Bhapiro using the right-wing bully tactic of intentionally mispronouncing an opponent's name to show dominance? (The implication being that you're not important enough for them to learn your name.) Well color me shocked.

Ben understands what she meant, but the knee jerk reaction has got to be to mock empathy at any opportunity. As soon as I heard of this story I immediately knew who would be jumping to defend the guy who killed the other guy.

You really just compared a child having a seizure, to a full grown man with 30+ assaults on his record screaming threats of violence on a subway car. It's scary that people with these opinions can vote.

Ben singled you out because in his mind, you're more vulnerable for his attack. It's his insidious masculinity that was playing out right there.

I know that it's often 'a thing' to completley misrepresent another's stance to make yourself look super smart in contrast. But wow, the amount of twisting Shapiro does with Vigeland's quote on the issue was taken to absurd lengths. In no way did Emma ever come close to saying that we need to endure physical abuse for the sake of diversity. More disappointing is that people will watch him and be like, "Wow, she DID say that!"

Children don't feel safe going to school - The 2A shall not be infringed! Adults don't feel safe on the subway - I'm outraged! This cannot be allowed to stand! Amazing 😂

Sam I live in queens. After hearing you , my only response to a really violent situation is I called 911 . I always hoped someone would intervene if my family needed help . You won , I really didn’t think New Yorkers believe what you believed. I’m leaving NY as fast as I can .

I mean the clip he shared of you was an awesome clip. I hope some of his viewers have enough sense and heart to hear the soundness and compassion of your argument

DAILY REMINDER: "I love children. I mean I REALLY LOVE children. That's why I constantly talk about their nether regions." - Literal quote from Alabama Man. Why would you listen to anyone who has ever said this? Just report him and his horde of bots so that we can keep our children safe from reading anything from this individual.

"The penalty for mental breakdowns is DEATH" - Ben Shapiro

You know, I thought the burgeoise accusation was a bit too far but then Ben came with " ah thou shalt not cause discomforte in my presenc" and I'm eating my words, Emma saw something I never could

The fact that Emma showed empathy and humility to the situation, make me love and be proud of her. It s a beautiful value that every human should have. She is more christian or “Jesus like “ than any extreme zealots from Daily Wire. Emma you are a treasure to this world and media world. We need more people like you!!!!

Excellent discussion TMR, especially Emma Vigeland rejecting the right’s white knight/distressed damsel trope BS and laying these dehumanizing attacks at the feet of NYC restaurant and event promoters lobby groups is spot on. More of Emma’s POV please.

Why didnt anyone share a sandwich? He was HUNGRY. If you've ever gone hungry for a period of time after a while it breaks you.

Just Google it. The right wing doesn't understand empathy and thinks it's a weakness In fact, that's what wokeness is in their opinion, empathy. They can't define it but that's what it is. All empathy. Not mistaken empathy. All empathy. In fact the original wokeness, The unperverted definition, was being empathetic for somebody, acting on it, When they didn't want your help or ask for it.

This wasn't even a hot take lol. Slow content day for Ben.

Hoo- rah, Emma! You nailed it! I’m with you.

Emma is amazing!!! An outstanding communicator.

nothing speaks more to right wing populism than separating houseless people from the working class

Damn Emma. You freaking nailed this. It’s so true what you’re saying.

Listen. This whole situation is horrible because how can you sit there and film a man being murdered by a civilian and do nothing. Everyone is just watching a man being murdered.

Disinformation, doublespeak and doublethink. Intellectual dishonesty? Malice? I can't fathom the stupidity of this panel, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, but you're shameless.

Emma is right about Ben targeting her because she’s the woman on the show. He and many of the daily wire talking heads do this regularly. They know it gets more engagement from their viewers to dunk on a woman of the left.

The right is trying desperately not to confront Jordan Neely's humanity because if they do they'll have to also confront the fact that they helped enact the culture and policies that put him in that situation in the first place. Emma's point about the broader humanity is extremely salient and Ben is willfully ignoring it. Jordan Neely wasn't a vagrant, he was a New York citizen and he had just as much right to be on that train as everyone else. Whatever he had done in the past does not justify summary execution at the hands of one of his fellow citizens. But that's exactly what the right wants. Ben Shapiro's colleague Matt Walsh has all but said it outright. The poor and mentally ill are undesirables and they must be removed from polite society to assuage our feelings of guilt about how we messed them up. So he's not a man in need of help, he's a "scary" "violent" "homeless" "vagrant", and that attitude is absolutely bourgeois.

I haven't heard anyone mention de-escalation. Offer the poor man a sandwich and some water. Tell him you're sorry he is hungry. Understanding Understanding and compassion ❤️

How safe does Ben think Jordan Neely felt on the train in that moment do you reckon?