Samsung failed in China. How did Apple succeed?
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Apple just reached the #1 spot in the Chinese smartphone market a few months ago, overtaking local rivals like Xiaomi, Huawei and OPPO. No other foreign brand is popular in the country, so how did Apple do it?
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Factos
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@onewhoisanonymous 2 жыл бұрын
Currently in China... When Iphones first came out they were seen as a luxury good and people were showing them off. Phone cases would have a cut out so people could see the Apple logo and there were plenty of copy-cats. I was a huge Android fan until I moved to China. Partly because of the "great firewall" Android was not a good option. I had a Xiaomi phone as well, but the hardware just didn't last. I just bought an Iphone 13 yesterday and the customer support in China is really good. (Also there are plenty of repair shops that can fix Apple product more easily)
@MrYoOoDoO1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer I think it is everywhere where they sell well
@Racko. 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer It’s a luxury reliable product, which is why people love it, so ofc, one of those features will be showing it off, hence the cut out cases
@playingwithV 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer it not "luxurious" but the price is definitely luxurious. LOL
@Racko. 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer you’re twisting my words. I didn’t call them better than other products so why bring that part up? They’re a social factor yes, meaning a status symbol and ppl like them for that social factor, meaning it’s a luxury status symbol. To them. “Hardly luxurious”, nope, they’re very luxurious in those that see it as that
@nehcooahnait7827 2 жыл бұрын
This is VERY WRONG. Androids users in China practically never experienced Google play services before. There is NO WAY there would make consumer choice based on the lack of Google services in preference over Apple. They simply do not have frame of reference on that one. Obviously, you wouldn’t know that cuz you are not Chinese. You are speaking as a non-Chinese living in China who had experiences with Google Play and related services before.
@JhaveriAakash 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla China relationship is even more partial but less surprising
@thunderb00m 2 жыл бұрын
The CCP will use tesla and other EVs to know exactly where you went even if you switch off your phone and don't want to be tracked. Of course there are cameras right now that do some tracking but nothing like pin point location.
@tayloryoung4974 2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderb00m Every gov does that, the ccp is just vocal about it, and this is not a conspiracy theory Edward Snowden revealed everything years ago, I don't know why people still pretend like China is a unique case, all govs are a threat to individuals.
@dds5450 2 жыл бұрын
China invited Tesla to china to allow other Chinese EV companies to copy tesla's technology and eventually dominate EV industry. This is what happened in electronics industries.
@jtsy4944 2 жыл бұрын
@@tayloryoung4974 yeah a lot of people fail to realize no one is forcing Tesla to do the deal, they still went in despite knowing how Chinese companies and government do business. So at the end of the day, it's just business and nothing new.
@danielch6662 Жыл бұрын
@@jtsy4944 China saved Tesla when the were running out of cash. Tesla owes China. If China didn't bail them out, Tesla would not exist today.
@Leooel9 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I did not know the extent that Huawei absolutely tanked. It's a shame, I enjoyed their phones.
@repeekyraidcero 2 жыл бұрын
Owned a tablet of them last year... Their OS doesn't even work well with custom Launchers.. Nothx
@biomerl 2 жыл бұрын
Not a shame, it's a beautiful thing to see. Hopefully we can get all those Chinese companies to tank in the same way, everywhere in the world
@Gr95dc 2 жыл бұрын
@@biomerl what a clown
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t 2 жыл бұрын
@@biomerl dream on troll. China tech will thrived.
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer lol. Yeah we love no spyware. Good luck if you think US spyware is good.
@jacobnewmanlim2470 2 жыл бұрын
I remember backing in the early 10s, everyone around me were saying that Samsung usually get slow really fast and that they wouldn’t buy a Samsung as their next phone. I blame for lack of localisation (e.g. for mega apps like WeChat), early success+bad Android optimisation, note 7 incident as reasons behind the downfall for Samsung in China.
@repeekyraidcero 2 жыл бұрын
I only own a Damsung tablet for their SPen... If not for it, I'd immediatelly sell it. Terrible thermal management.
@Agtsmirnoff 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Galaxy s2, was nice at first but ended up being the worst phone I ever had. Tried again with the s5 and s9, good phones but lack of long term support meant they were obsolete 18 months after purchase. I’m sticking with Apple sadly for the time being.
@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- 2 жыл бұрын
Lol they still get slow to this day
@jacobnewmanlim2470 2 жыл бұрын
@@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ain’t that the common issue of Android? And ever other major update google says that they fixed the problem
@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobnewmanlim2470 my backup OnePlus One (yes, the one from 2014) still feels snappier than my S9...
@AmaxterPlays 2 жыл бұрын
What a superbly researched and put together video on one of the most important topics of our time. Apple’s bargain with China and business prudence there is a story unique to 21st century capitalism and one we shouldn’t ignore.
@tonytony9505 2 жыл бұрын
China is the future. there is no doubt. I am learning Chinese! Look at the top 10 power langauges: English, Spanish, French, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, German, Arabic, Hindu, Portuguese!
@cooliipie 2 жыл бұрын
It's Communism
@Korne127 2 жыл бұрын
@@cooliipie China has nothing to do with communism; it's a hypercapitalist country.
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
@@Korne127 So then you admit that Taiwan is really China?
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
China is a communists country so wtf are you even talking about?
@sloppynyuszi 2 жыл бұрын
I left Shanghai in 2018, but I remember Samsung was a super popular phone there, surprised how quickly it disappeared. I remember they were once selling a flagship android flip phone. Was almost 10 000 rmb. Only saw it in the shops. Galaxy Notes and S was very common. That’s a massive market to lose.
@andrescarrasco1248 2 жыл бұрын
Samsung betrayed everything that made them a fan favorite in the first place, the point of an Android back on 2011 was that you could do basically everything with your phone, removable battery, SD card, headphone jack, OLED screen, now a days there are little difference between an iphone and a Galaxy S, and as people see iOS as a superior os they just like it more
@LaowaiDaveJCP 2 жыл бұрын
i haven't seen manu people using Samsung in the last 6 years let alone 2018. it was big once but after 2015 they dropped dead
@eventusvantos2770 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrescarrasco1248 no point of removable battery because the battery should be good enough to last longer instead of needing to be replaced SD card isn't needed since the phones come with way more storage which is also much faster than SD card storage Little differences? lmao there's tons of differences. Samsungs one ui runs circles around ios Samsung has infintiyly more features freedom and customization eg Apple copying widgets yet making them worse. Samsung has better battery optimization, faster charging, reverse wireless charging better zoom and overall better camera experience, better display, way more features eg dex pc to desktop coding pasting etc meanwhile ios doesn't even have basic features like desktop folder system, split screen multitasking, ability to close all apps at once, ability to place apps wherever you want without having to be beside another app. I could go on and on
@andrescarrasco1248 2 жыл бұрын
@@eventusvantos2770 yet is not an iphone, most people will say that, if you spend 1000 bucks on a phone why a Galaxy if you can buy an iphone, all those things you just said 95% of phone buyers don't know or don't care, because still iphone gives you status, and people who care about specs and features are most likely to buy a cheaper phone that has almost same specs, all phones are becoming really really good, and Samsung is losing any real difference for regular non techy buyer
@eventusvantos2770 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrescarrasco1248 "yet is not an iphone" thats a good thing lol Because an iPhone doesn't even have a quarter of a quarter of those things and you're wrong most people DO know that's why Samsung has the most marketshare in the smartphone space Samsung if anything has a bigger status symbol with its flagships because if anything them being less common makes them more desirable similar to how if a ferrari was so common it wouldn't be as desirable You can't get anywhere near as good display battery life camera combination without going with the flagship and you don't have to be a tech nerd to appreciate all of those major differences
@MichaelElsegood 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, so well researched and presented. I live in Shenzhen, China, and it's so true what you said about the split between big urban areas and rural places. I look at peoples phones on the subway system all the time here in the city and it's all top end devises; iPhones dominate here, Apple Watches everywhere. I was recently at an event for the Honor Magic V and a lot of the employees had the latest iPhones which was amusing. Great video as always, and the Crrowd app is so helpful for me. Cant wait to see what you'll be making in the coming years! Love it!
@syrupybrandy2788 2 жыл бұрын
You're right about that one. I visited one of the Huawei stores in Shenzhen before Covid. Shenzhen happens to be Huawei's hq and yet their own store employees are using iphones.
@poloziki9990 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo Apple sold their soul for chinese money... Yeah, I'm shocked af....
@bruhder5854 2 жыл бұрын
You should be. To even think that a corporate entity would have a soul 🤣
@blugaledoh2669 2 жыл бұрын
What soul?
@poloziki9990 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruhder5854 By "soul" I meant integrity. But as we all know every company became wh**re for chinese money......
@zj7396 2 жыл бұрын
it's capitalism.
@poloziki9990 2 жыл бұрын
@@zj7396 *You mistake this term with open market.
@cherries44 2 жыл бұрын
I always learn a lot from your videos and it's easy to understand.I guess I formed my unique preference in choosing a phone or gadget with the help of your channel. Keep it up!
@samuelflg607 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Marton!
@LifehackerAsh 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome explainer. Love this series !
@BriefNerdOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
Apple is like the Catholic Church. They only use moral reasoning when it doesn't jeopardize their affairs. And a TechAltar is the perfect spot to discover it.
@MKB720P 2 жыл бұрын
That's a strange representation
@blugaledoh2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@MKB720P a distorted view of the Church.
@aravindpallippara1577 2 жыл бұрын
@@blugaledoh2669 Going to say that's what most established religions are like.... Church is simply not an exception
@bd8594 2 жыл бұрын
One reason: Samsung is not regarded as a premium phone brand in China.
@GBamaBoy 2 жыл бұрын
B D lying.
@ritu8985 2 жыл бұрын
@Suraj Kumar Mishra kyu juth bol raha hai
@ritu8985 2 жыл бұрын
@Suraj Kumar Mishra naam ki democracy hai
@dinkarfowkar999 2 жыл бұрын
@@ritu8985 charsi ka chela spotted
@bl5608 8 ай бұрын
Apple iPhone wins in china. Samsung wins everything else (hardwares, components, electronics) in china.
@forzaflash 2 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing Marton! Thanks a lot, the effort always shows! Very interesting and arguably eye opening. Everytime I see stuff about the Chinese market I find it fascinating.
@dark.e. 2 жыл бұрын
I greatly feel that the very first and main reason for Apple being even standing on it's feet,i.e.,the company's integral relationship with the govt,would at some point in future be the sole reason for the downfall (atleast in Cxhina).
@chikamazri5817 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Smartphone market share in these three countries Japan: Apple, and other Japanese smartphone brand(unsuccessful outside of Japan) SK: Apple, Samsung other SK smartphone brands(successful in a lot of countries except Japan and China) China: Apple, Xiaomi, Huawei and other Chinese smartphone brands.(successful in a lot of countries except in SK and Japan)
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Its a good day when tech altar uploads
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Outstanding video. This is why I’m subbed
@zsoltsimon5850 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@cheehlee 2 жыл бұрын
Good research. 👍
@mattBLACKpunk 2 жыл бұрын
"what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone"
@RandomPerson-tz7wk 2 жыл бұрын
Not in communist china
@StiekemeHenk 2 жыл бұрын
This was never true, it just stays with Apple. Until they decide it doesn't.
@mattBLACKpunk 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk not anywhere tbh
@99Teutons 2 жыл бұрын
"What happens on your iPhone stays on your and xi jinping's iphone"
@idk-lz4nl 2 жыл бұрын
@@99Teutons ngl lame pretty lame retort
@rolins3279 2 жыл бұрын
What fascinates me the most in Apple's history with China is how Westerners who are supposedly attached to "Human Rights" pretend not to see what Apple is doing in China.
@RichardHorpe 2 жыл бұрын
Pompeo took ETIM off the terrorist list to mess with China, go figure. "Human rights" is just a game. China always has human rights issues, but it only becomes a topic when the US wants to haggle on the trade deal or achieve other geo-political goals. Germany needs the US approval to build Nordstream 2, so their media doesn't talk about the US droning weddings and hospitals.
@jasonsoo6138 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardHorpe ikr they even started the whole stupid Xinjiang - Uyghur lie so that they can stop BRI
@darkRanzero 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonsoo6138 +20 social credit score has been deposited into your account.
@S1eepers 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkRanzero then apple has 1mill+ social credit score.
@jasonsoo6138 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkRanzero lame but thanks ???
@iKeith3000 2 жыл бұрын
Could you post links to your sources? In case we want to do additional reading
@Lumiverse. 2 жыл бұрын
The Story Behind series is one of my favorite things on KZfaq
@allezvenga7617 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your sharing
@iMonZ00 2 жыл бұрын
Verry well researched video
@daoneeeee 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@konstantinoszoupalis8449 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching your videos since you had less than 100K Subs and thinking yeah this channel will someday grow
@niiico2351 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting topic 👍
@VAISHALIDORANALA 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, this TechAltat video is by far the BEST Marton has put out, in terms of research, presentation and more... The Information density in this video is insane. Great Job... 👍👍 A couple of times I even had to rewind to catch up with what he is saying...
@headroom28 2 жыл бұрын
And none of this is going to come back to bite them.
@repeekyraidcero 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Cool attitude.
@jukio02 2 жыл бұрын
Cause, Apple invested 275 billion dollars in China in that past 5 years, lol. That's why.
@carlo817 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird tho because Samsung has a pretty darn good ecosystem even without Google
@Racko. 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, they’re still running android, making googles key services are in their requirements to make their own ecosystem as a complete experience as possible
@zj7396 2 жыл бұрын
but iphone is better
@lumpython5351 2 жыл бұрын
Have to admit currently Apple iCloud is the only way for people who needs files exchange between China and international without VPN or mess around the internet.
@lumpython5351 Жыл бұрын
@吃货小美女 总好过你只懂吃
@lumpython5351 3 ай бұрын
@@xiaomeinv7你懂你说，请问哪一个云服务能同时在国外国内高速使用？不用任何代理翻墙？最讨厌就是你这种，啥都说不出就只知道说别人不懂
@Deadlines-X 2 жыл бұрын
That Calculatin Ada video is like unavailable to watch unless you look it up on your phone, dont know why its like that its on youtube tho.
@PulverfassProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot with this video, well made and in-depth information!
@jomalsanish 2 жыл бұрын
Well the same apple has 1% market share in India!
@jeebangurung7014 2 жыл бұрын
Most chinese think apple phone is luxury phone, u r right. Anyway i'm a fan of samsung android phones witch r resonsble n easy to use.
@RonakDhakan 2 жыл бұрын
06:22 hehe Samsung reflection on apple store.
@buzzbatra3 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@fmotta4 2 жыл бұрын
What is your source for this?
@jaycon3460 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know this, never buying an apple product again
@dwlondon 2 жыл бұрын
Ada Lovelace didn't build the machine, Charles Babbage did, it was called the difference engine. Ada lovelace only created cards that were used to program Babbages machine, and is widely considered to be the very first programmer.
@auliamate 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe Marton is only at 555K subscribers. I haven't taken a peek at the TechAltar sub count in months and thought he was at 1.2-2.1 million subs. No joke.
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@joelo5164 Жыл бұрын
The iCloud data is in Chinese Servers!?? WTF
@qilu2004 2 жыл бұрын
If Apple run on android it would be like samsung as well. it is competition, the most intensive on earth. chinese brands offer much better value than samnsung but apple run a different os to carve out a separate market.
@Joe__Tech 2 жыл бұрын
Do they sell their equipment cheaper over there? Or don‘t they charge those customs and taxes? They are told to take a lot of import customs.
@rawandayub2423 2 жыл бұрын
Please more review videos 😇
@eto1842 2 жыл бұрын
simple answer: by Trump targeting Huawei. Basically the market share Huawei lost due to access to chips (TSMC 7nm), goes to Apple and Samsung, and especially Apple. And of course, Apple must provide great customer service and products, as well as marketing to win this portion of market against dozens of competitors in the Chinese market.
@akshay7035 2 жыл бұрын
Okay! So what about Galaxy Z Flip 3??
@izzbee217 8 ай бұрын
Can confirmed that the Chinese version of iphone you bought all the data you saved on the cloud will be store in China’s local server instead of google or Apple’s cloud,and based on the censorship of the country,the emoji 🇹🇼 is not shown as well,there are also few functions still lack of supported in the country for example FaceTime audio and group.
@funglee6051 2 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese, I can tell you clearly that before NOTE7, my whole family used Samsung, and many people also use it outside. Samsung will perish because of the Note7 battery explosion, Samsung recalled worldwide (except China), on the grounds that the Chinese version does not use the same battery, it will not explode, it does sound very reasonable. But it turns out that most airlines and transports in China, prohibit the carrying of NOTE7 (regardless of which country's version). Then Samsung went downhill immediately, because both the note7 and Samsung fans would persuade people around them not to buy Samsung, and at that time Chinese brands themselves were on the rise (Huawei, Xiaomi, etc.), and finally Huawei, Xiaomi didn't need to work too hard , to get Samsung's market share.（To put it simply, except for Apple, other smartphones are not irreplaceable） As for political issues, it is true that in China, many companies are easily influenced by politics, but Apple will rise, the main reason is that Apple's own products are excellent, such as complete and fast after-sales service and product ecosystem. Otherwise Apple wouldn't be globally popular (or did Apple give money to governments around the world?)
@fanny2081 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, samsung is a south korean company so they hate commies. Luckoly though, samsung is growing in india
@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225 2 жыл бұрын
@@fanny2081 In any case, Apple is an American company, a country that the China's government don't get along.
@kameshwaranramachandran9322 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225 unless the agreed to secretly share consumer data with the dictators in China😂
@SONMINHTRAN1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225 CCP has been trying to suppress their anger in order to steal US and Democratic world high techies.Therefore China is well known world wide as Master of cloning, copycating,techies spying etc.
@jackzhou4813 Жыл бұрын
@@kameshwaranramachandran9322 The Chinese people's own data information is not handed over to their own government, is it handed over to a foreign company or country? what about your brain?Will your country hand over the data of its citizens to foreign control?No government will sell the interests of its citizens to foreign countries
@pinowsky 2 жыл бұрын
One advantage of joining Nebula is that you can skip the promos at the end of the videos
@chinmayjain2023 2 жыл бұрын
You can do the same with yt vanced
@Connie_TinuityError 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really worth the money though? _Just_ for that?
@Gr95dc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Connie_TinuityError well, is not just that
@den-iq1cv 2 жыл бұрын
how long until Apple move entire HQ to china?
@dsnodgrass4843 2 жыл бұрын
Won't happen. That would give the state too much leverage. They want to be able to "pivot out" if relations sour.
@lionow 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool thumbnail!
@MA-th4ts 2 жыл бұрын
Quality video content with exceptional insights into different markets. Will definitely be getting Nebula. Can't wait to watch technoroma
@fanny2081 2 жыл бұрын
Apple is seen as a fashion statement or a sign of wealth in china.
@aquilkhan 2 жыл бұрын
First i like his videos, then starts to watch. KZfaq seriously needs algorithm to separate quality contents from just copy paste one.
@pupaktube2825 2 жыл бұрын
There are no borders or problems when there is mutual interest in making some moneyzzz. Capitalistic dream. Great video. Regards from Serbia.
@jphuwae4505 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about Apple in Australia 🇦🇺 ?? It’s almost impossible to find an android user here in Australia. 😅 it’s a small market due to our population but I’ve always wondered why Samsung failed here and even the likes of Oppo is struggling
@glyn6185 2 жыл бұрын
a lot of people still have androids in Australia but its probably gonna become less and less as young people all love apple and hate androids since it's 'budget' and on twitter & tiktok u get clowned for having androids
@lumpython5351 2 жыл бұрын
Most Android players are Chinese. How's current Australian media paint China? I think anyone who watches Australian news cannot avoid got brainwashed, if you check ozbargain, you can easily spot anti-china comments on every Chinese phone deals. Like they are cheaper than Samsung they must put some sort of untold secret espionage thing inside the phone to track every Australian and the result is obvious, people tend to not buy Chinese phones. Samsung phones generally are not decent IMO, mediocre at best, Nokia phones don't feel Scandinavian at all and they are worse, Google basically treats Pixel as device that demonstrates latest technology, and they are pricey and looks boring. Sony quit. So only Apple.
@lumpython5351 2 жыл бұрын
Huawei sells their phone cheaper in Australia than they are in China offers more for less cost, like give Sonos or GT Watch or Huawei photo portable printer or discount with gift card through Telstra at JB hi-fi as bonus, Huawei is the only Chinese mobile company spent a lot on marketing in Australia, but when people see Huawei's ad they immediately think it's CCP propaganda, thus I never saw a white person using Huawei phone, least in WA, all Huawei users I spotted are Asian and presumably Chinese. I guess Huawei already proved what's so called wasting money to other Chinese players. Xiaomi's strategy seems spent almost none of marketing, but actually they do a lot, that's one of the misconception, they just using different approach and works well in countries like India and China, for Australia, the market is too small to care, and outright pricing of Xiaomi in Australia is terrible, Xiaomi doesn't even bother sign up with any carriers. By the way, all Telstra branded mobile phone actually is OEM by ZTE.
@chippyjohn1 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, most people I know love android and not apple due to apple build quality and other factors. Superficial people go for apple. Their reason always being 'they heard it was good' but can not say what is actually good about them. The masses are sheeple. US products are always promoted biasly and other products demoted, it's a monopoly.
@chippyjohn1 2 жыл бұрын
@@glyn6185 Only morons go on twitter and tiktok, so why would anyone be bothered about what they approve. tiktok most watched video 'person falls off chair' hilarious. Watch the documentary 'Idiocracy'
@TheDoomWorm 2 жыл бұрын
and my mom doesn't like Android phones because they're "made in China" :D
@kosia1972 2 жыл бұрын
Well iphone made in China too,in that case your mom will go back to stone age
@TheDoomWorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@kosia1972 Nokia 3310
@pacoramon9468 2 жыл бұрын
Surely being more dependent on China won’t backfire...
@bober1019 2 жыл бұрын
id say for the iphone 13 range of devices: 1.09 to 1.49 million won
@mrparts 2 жыл бұрын
summary: people love Apple iPhones and they re willing to pay the high price as soon as they can afford it.
@Mandrag0ras 2 жыл бұрын
6:06 Stock footage is so fucking hilarious from time to time. 🤣
@MrJairforce 2 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect example of how business sense > spec race in the current mobile market
@maneesh2316 2 жыл бұрын
True
@erejnion 2 жыл бұрын
"Business sense" = playing nice with the CCP and not having your global services banned? Android providing subpar experience due to CCP's interference kneecaps Android flagships, while the Chinese market is abnormally skewed towards flagships. This is the tl;dr of the video.
@Agtsmirnoff 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean, most aspects of the iPhone meet or exceed their android counterparts
@franklingoodwin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff Did you not read his comment? He mentioned specs. That should tell you what he meant - since most flagships running Android outspec iPhones
@MrJairforce 2 жыл бұрын
@@erejnion That’s exactly what it means in the current global trade climate in case you haven’t noticed. There are no heroes or villains in this business anymore (if there ever were). Only the bottom line matters, especially as the margins in the mobile market continue to grow smaller.
@OmDahake 2 жыл бұрын
Reused the same type of template in tis video's thumbnail from previous video
@erejnion 2 жыл бұрын
I think Chinese people have fewer devices overall, so they spend more on the only device they have: the phone. Meanwhile I have an years-old Sony as a phone - and top of the line PC, laptop, another laptop, etc.
@jacobnewmanlim2470 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I am a Chinese, I have a iPhone, iPad, Xbox and a gaming laptop. But you know I am subscriber to this channel, so I am not your average Chinese 🤓
@1zhang552 2 жыл бұрын
you are ignorance arrogance
@jacobnewmanlim2470 2 жыл бұрын
@@1zhang552 well, it’s you who is ignorant and arrogant. There is a significant amount of Chinese only relay solely on their smart phones for internet connections. The study from CNNIC shows that 99.6% Chinese use their smartphones to access Internet whereas the percentage for desktop and laptop are 34.6% and 30.8% respectively. So that’s to say there are 40%+ Chinese don’t have computers and only get phones. There are also 637 Million Chinese mobile gamers and only 321 Million Chinese pc gamers. So for a great number of Chinese, their smartphone is their primary or only method of accessing internet and gaming which is his argument and the reason behind why Chinese tends to spend disproportionately high amount of money on their smartphones compare to western consumers.
@aravindpallippara1577 2 жыл бұрын
@@1zhang552 same with India mate - significant percentage of population only use smartphones to connect to internet. Most folks subscribed to a tech focused channel like this one will have other devices or use other ones because most of us by demographic of this channel work in tech based fields
@PixLgams 2 жыл бұрын
@@aravindpallippara1577 I could guess that China's rural market then has similar conditions to India in that people buy phobes as their primary internet devices but don't have the disposable income for much more than budget phones. Doesn't explain the city population but the video had that covered anyway.
@ydmf2 2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't Xiaomi on that graph? Are their sales in China low?
@samuelflg607 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, they don't do that well in china
@abdulkhujliwal786 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, there are literally so many brands and also so many buyers, in China, that despite the newest of Xiaomi phones being reportedly sold out in minutes, they aren't able to make a noticeable spot in the chart.
@MarnixUwU 2 жыл бұрын
No video chapters :( Anyway nice video!
@nou8419 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese OEMs should do the same thing. Do what apple did with China and work everywhere BEING TRUSTED.
@surenderyadav7738 2 жыл бұрын
ngl the thumbnail looks like somewhat that of polymatter's.
@idk-lz4nl 2 жыл бұрын
but tech alter is cool while polymatter is shit
@yadisfhaddad722 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention how Apple in China is around 30% more expensive than in the US due to taxes. They still sell iPhones like hot bread.
@IbrahimIbrahim-ih4vz 2 жыл бұрын
They have them a backdoor that's how they did it
@cunxu2697 2 жыл бұрын
It will be really hard for other brands in China to get the same premium reputation as Apple and Huawei
@tequilatech 2 жыл бұрын
If Samsung and Apple work together it would be called "SAMPLE" 😂
@GO0SE237 2 ай бұрын
aaaaaand then their sales dropped by 24%...
@user-yw2sm7kb6x 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest reason is the rise of Chinese Android phones, already has Xiaomi, huawei, honor, oppo, vivo, redmi, etc. And meizu, meilan, Nubia etc. back then. And they're much much cheaper at the beginning, and better local ecosystem, better local operating system. Samsung was just expensive and not really quality difference from the local brands phones really. They don't need Samsung or any other brand. Apple is just the other option. And apple is doing well recently is mainly because the US trade wars and sactions.
@yashpallalas8409 2 жыл бұрын
Apple is all time high in India too right now
@dougpatterson7494 Жыл бұрын
It is a shame that Apple is hypocritical in this regard. I was thinking that perhaps my next phone would be an Indian made iPhone. With Apple behaving in this manner I may end up buying another Samsung. I am strange; I switch between iOS and android smartphones.
@bsjddjk Жыл бұрын
actually apple have exported 1billion dollar worth iphone in December 2022 from india & display of iphones r supplied by samsung which is also made in india
@marloelefant7500 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot really follow your observation. I'm living in a large Chinese city and yes, many people have flagships, but often several years old. And the phones are comparatively cheap here, the same (European) models are often more expensive in Europe.
@WanderfromSOTC 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@mujahidafridi112 2 жыл бұрын
Damm man look at huawei graph
@DathCoco 2 жыл бұрын
why does it do so well: money
@Solazed 2 жыл бұрын
Enlightening video. Great channel
@linhtrantuan1655 2 жыл бұрын
Same happened with Tesla in China. If you follow their politic you will get decent favor.
@GyanPrakash 2 жыл бұрын
And America is screaming don't do business with china 😂😂😂
@weltsiebenhundert 2 жыл бұрын
6:28 Reflection in the window is the Samsung A80
@lindsay1971 2 жыл бұрын
I was sad to see from the infographic that Australians don't buy phones. Sent from my phone.
@haridasification 2 жыл бұрын
Apple forgets all human rights in China
@idk-lz4nl 2 жыл бұрын
endian
@ninjal7588 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Huawei crashing though? Just temporary as it was sales and not "phones in use"?
@snowdog03 2 жыл бұрын
Not allowed to buy chips. That will kill any company.
@user-hv4ky5kt2x 2 жыл бұрын
Huawei still make lots of profit by building factory, farming, etc. automation. plus receiving fees from companies that using Huawei 5g patents.
@MrYoOoDoO1999 2 жыл бұрын
In nuthsell: Money
@j4nv 2 жыл бұрын
A quote from the WSJ: "Some analysts say China mines more than 70% of the world's rare earths (elements)". I would play ball too with the CCP
@blugaledoh2669 2 жыл бұрын
What about Australia?
@user-hv4ky5kt2x 2 жыл бұрын
rare earth mineral are not rare. many countries have it. the real case is: the factory. only china have the factory to process it. it's not about the availability (of the mineral) nor the technology to process it, but the ECONOMIC SCALE. many countries "can" build the factory, but no one want to waste billion $ for very small return.
@aravindpallippara1577 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-hv4ky5kt2x yep, cobalt is processed in Australia by a Chinese country (of course locally) but still mining and resource processing is a massive endeavour which needs humongous capital to be actually viable or even profitable. And once you are making a profit, it's very hard for anybody else to compete in a free market - because they need to beat your prices to gain market share.
@user-hv4ky5kt2x 2 жыл бұрын
cobalt is not in the rare earth minerals list.
@aravindpallippara1577 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-hv4ky5kt2x ok technically true - but, it's a much in demand metal that's not being met
@advaitmishra5095 2 жыл бұрын
Only Legends will notice the reflections 1:41
@polofunk 2 жыл бұрын
China love the tracking on the iPhone's
@MEJOVA 2 жыл бұрын
Story time🥳🥳🥳🥳
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