Tcl hisense r trash, so only samsung and sony r good with qleds

@@Ehrle6969 Panasonics are the king with Sony,US don’t have them though

this is a very good remark! the best one i've read in a long time, GJ! You're absolutely right

2018? So that's the Q9FN? such a legendary TV. QLED. No wide angle layer. *SUPER* deep blacks that created a 3D effect in some scenes. As soon as that wide angle layer came in, they lost that ability.

@@cronoesify Yes that’s the one. Hooked up to even the mid/high range Panasonic UDB820 4k Blu ray player it still looks real nice. It’s only downside is to get 10bit 444 chroma u have to mess about a bit with the settings (typically put on 24p frame rate) due to the 18gbps bandwidth limit, or make do with 420 if the disc doesn’t support the lower 24 fps.

Yet the S90D OLED which peaks at around 1300 nits is brighter 99% of the time. Not trying to push you to QD-OLED but trying to illustrate just how misleading nit measurements are on a FALD LCD television.

On Reedit i see alot of this same issue! Looks like a software problem .. and i love the reviwers talkin About Samsung and sayin Amazing! 144hz.. vrr .. this q90c and probably qn90d have one of the worst response time ... ghosting all the way whit VA panel! Very very veeerryy bad! Plus Locall dimmim bugs and this Screeam side bug too! But They still gonna say Amazing!

It’s a guess,but I wonder if anything smaller than 55” version gets an edge lit led panel rather than a full back lit led array. I think I saw that somewhere. This could explain why dimming is stronger in those corners and some lack of uniformity.

I got the same problem also

​​@@TheNickoslicKnot really. 43" and 50" actually uses VA panel unlike the larger sizes that uses ADS panel. The smaller sizes are actually better for contrast and black levels since it's VA, while ADS (just an IPS version) is better at viewing angles and glare handling. They still use Mini-LED backlight just that the smaller ones will have better contrast and blacks, which is what you want in a tv

Had that issue when using it as a monitor. It was awful as a monitor. Also had this dark cloudy crap that's only noticeable in motion. I'm using it as a regular TV now and its fine. Although at times I can still see the dark cloudy crap. Using the LG C4 42" for my monitor and it's damn near perfect.

I paid $4500 for a 50” 720p plasma in 2002. 😢

Hisense u8k or u8 in the US is 1300 for 65 inch

Considering a 2023 Sony 65” A80L OLED can be had for $1999? Can’t say I don’t disagree with you.

@@wade196840 Lacks the processing power and wide viewing angle I’m looking for.

Why do all the manufacturers price everything so high especially when they’re going to drop it in 6-8 months?

Good job you bought trash for 1300

​@@Sumodeadliftsarefake69why is that tv is bad please tell I am considering to buy that tv

@@GanesanSridhar it uses an IPS panel which is garbage. Get the Sony LED that’s in your price range instead

@@GanesanSridhar It has horrific blooming. Main reason i havent bought it myself.

​@@GanesanSridhar At least in america, 50" and 43" come with va panel, so they have a bit better handling of contrast, less blooming.

Will you jump on the oled bandwagon?

More than likely. I figure I’ll be more comfortable with OLED in 2-4 years when I’m ready to upgrade. Who knows, maybe micro-led will be ready then?

I had one for a day, fantastic brightness but I couldn't stand the anti-reflection layer, which produced a big rainbow effect across the screen.

@@redinho1994 I read this complaint a lot. I have never experienced this. I have windows to the side of my tv but nothing direct. Maybe that’s why I don’t notice it.

iirc the 95 series has very limited availability in the US, so for US publications the qn90 line is often treated as the top end 4k led. (I'm UK based where the 95 is everywhere so not 100% sure on the US situation)

OLED is a better path. OLED is more than worth than 10" or even 20"

Is there any official confirmation about this? Because according to DisplaySpecifications, the 55qn90d is still ips-ads panel.

@@janosgyorgy17 doesnt matter, ips, va, ads, or whatever, its just cringe compared to OLED.

​@@iamthechessmastergg burn in, loses contrast and colors over the year 😂

The upscaling especially on streaming is nothing thing but incemental.

120 to 144 is big improvement, not a "small incremental improvement" and the 43" QN90D is only $200 more right now

@@T1taanGMG we will agree to disagree

Me too

Me too. I don't think there is much of a difference.

Im still lovin and rocking my 1st gen neo, the QN90a! I gave my younger brother my LG BX oled and got the qn90a....night and day difference lemme tell ya! When my room is totally dark and free of any light source, and everytime my qn90a screen would go black, u cant even tell the tv is on or off the black lvls are that dang good, oled good even! I would consider a newer qn90 model, but according to reviews the newer ones havent been quite as good..almost! But not quite as good as the 90a. Maybe if this 90d is better i will get it. Would like one with newer features and a little brighter and a bit better picture quality then ya, ill definitely get this new one. The 90a has been very hard to match, let alone beat.....at least in my opinion anyways...

super pointless bcs of very slow panel used/ u just paid double the price for poorly designed tv

@@beyondshow how are sports on the qn90c

Non issue. $39.99 center stands available for all TVs on Amazon. Only noobs concern themselves with this.

Love the center stand also.

​@@8020Alive🥁🥁🥁🤡🤡🤡

How did you get it so cheap?

Yes how

Mini Leds are the best value for performance and price no question!

I'm itching to buy this as a desktop monitor as a substitute for the LG C3 since its on sale right now. Do the texts display better than the C3? Is the contrast almost good as OLED?

@@lamjk10 Text is as good as C3 yes and most the time contrast looks as good as OLED's (99% of the time), most wouldn't see the difference .

Oled will be better for text, zero blooming.

@@wobble108 I have both, no difference. Text is too small to create blooming. Only happens on larger objects. Latest mini led TV's by Sammy practically have no noticeable blooming unless you pause an images such as on a star field and look for it.

how are sports on the qn90c?

@phillipsbyrd224 I haven't watched too much sports other than the Olympics which look great. I think tv works best with movies & TV shows. The upscaling is great too.

Yes

Processing and color accuracy NO!

Agreed. All of Hollywood is moving in the direction of Dolby Vision now. Very few films are being released in HDR10+ today. It's really just a matter of time before Samsung will have to finally cave in and support Dolby Vision. Now, Dolby Vision isn't perfect and it still has its flaws and shortcoming, of course, but it is what the film industry has settled on for their default HDR format now it appears. Samsung can only try and buck that trend for so long.

@@michaelbeckerman7532 it’s kind of similar to the old blu ray vs HD DVD battle. Technically HD DVD was slightly better but blu ray had more backing from movie studios so it won out in the end. HD DVD went the way of the Dodo. I guess it’s the same with any competing technologies within the movie industry, eventually one will win out. Dolby Vision is winning the premium HDR format race and if Samsung continue to refuse to support it they could end up getting left behind.

DV is overrated and not needed on high end TVs. Honestly DV looks washed out compared to HdR10

@@trewright1482 you’ll get more shadow and dark scene detail in DV over standard HDR10, especially on high end TVs.

Dv sucks

Airwolf is next 🎉

Damn I just bought it I didn’t know that smh 🤦 I still haven’t received mines

It's a great TV, but it may seem slow if you are used to a fast IPS or OLED.

Have Blooming?

I use the cinema zoom function on my old LG TV to drastically reduce the black bar real estate on the top and bottom of the screen. What I lose on the far left and right of the picture is to me a very small price to pay. Of course I would not admit doing this to any videophile, let alone post on the internet for all to see that I do this given that it is considered to be cinematic sacrilege 🙃

It shouldn't be more than about two weeks away. It's getting close now.

Viewing angles and contrast is very good, but blooming is horrible in VApanel Qn90D 55 and 65"

I seen that on amazon, $2,000 for the 55 inch with the "free" but not really free 65 inch tv. The qn90d will clearance at about $1200 so you're really paying $1200 for the qn90d and $800 for the "free" but not really free 65 inch tv...which is grossly overpriced.

Keep letting them know. Eventually they will get the message.

Lol why woo many Samsung products?

They won't ever do that because doing so would be admitting their error/mistake - and admitting defeat. They would "lose face" in the eyes of the world (in their minds) and that is entirely unacceptable to them. Keep in mind here that to add DV to their TVs would have only cost them less than $3 per unit. That's what this is all about. Less than a $3 licensing fee per TV sold.

Absolutely correct, and a lot of people simply won't. They will just go out and buy a TV that has it instead. It's likely just a matter of time until Samsung is forced to finally include it in their TVs.

@@michaelbeckerman7532 Exactly, will wait to see what Sony offers but likely to be a CX to G4 upgrade for me now

Now, they don't want to do that, of course, because that would mean they would have to "lose face" by admitting that they were wrong all these years to not include it on their sets.

You really don't notice it lol

@@nathanciminelli5900 I need to delete this, bought an S90C as I changed my stance and I’d rather have a QD panel than Dolby vision

My Samsung TV not same model, had a back light issue and Samsung basically said see ya. Won't go back to Samsung. Thanks

Sucks that happened! My NU7100 that I bought more than five years ago is still going strong.

More and more consumers that love Hollywood movies are feeling that exact same way every single day.

They don't tell you because they don't want you to be able to make your purchase decision based on a criteria that they don't think you should be making it on. Just knowing the number of dimming zones doesn't tell you which TV has better/more advanced local dimming capabilities. If the processor can't control those zones effectively, then you could have one million zones and it wouldn't do you a damn bit of good. This is why TVs with lower zone counts but better processors (like the Sony LED's) consistently outperform TVs with higher zone counts and weaker processors.

I'm currently using LG C3 but I'll probably get this one to try since its on sale on my location today. It gets very bright as Caleb says and there is no risk of burn in. I use it as all around as a workstation as well as for gaming and watching content.

No, but DV isn't needed imo.

No! you can buy the Qn90C for a substantial price discount now. I have the QN90C and its outstanding. I just wish I had more time to enjoy it.

It’s not a deal.

On my 43in QN90C, Filmmaker mode, in SDR, does not seem to be an dimmer than Standard, in HDR though, Movie and Filmmaker are much dimmer, even with Settings tweaked for full panel brightness. I have to use Standard mode for HDR movies cause the others are just too dim for my taste. (i still prefer SDR content though)

@@Mariarosa-id3cg Disagree. HDR has always looked like one is wearing sunglasses, at night... Filmmaker mode makes things too dark and has lots of black crush. You can not see any background details at all, or is always just s dense black fog. SDR versions of movies look far more realistic to me. Furthermore, I can not stand the very yellow color tone of Warm 2 they default to. Standard tone looks natural to me, whites are white, not tan/yellow. In the end, set your tv to what looks best to you, not what someone else claims is "best".

@@Mariarosa-id3cg Yellow snow or clouds is not what i see in real life...but, sure...that is what they say is scientifically accurate. If that is supposed to be the "standard" then why is it not then used as the "Standard" profile, no, it is not. Standard color tone is what looks most natural to me and all of my family members (at least on Samsung TVs)

@@Mariarosa-id3cg Phones varry in color tone, that is normal. My iphone is much cooler looking than Warm 2 on my tv.

😂

I believe its a dif panel on the 55 and smaller

2100 nits is a move forward no?

@@TheNickoslicK TheQN900B in 2022 had a peak brightness of 4,000 nits so no they are going backwards.

Only as long as you see them standing next to each other 😅

You would be amazed. Image processing performance is just about the single most important factor on any new TV coming to market today. The more complex the content, the more that image processing capability factors into your overall enjoyment of what it is that you are watching. Processing is really everything today.

While it's only one person, I will say I bought my 2022 QN90B on Black Friday of 2023, and the BB store I got it from had 4 more on the pallet when I got mine. Good chance you will still find one then :)

They usually sell out during early summer to clear out stock. You would be very lucky if you found a C3/G3 during upcoming black friday

uncomparable...

The lg panel has a green tint to it and won't be as bright.

@@wobble108 not sure what you own, but i have G4 and noone can see this in reality. It's pretty damn bright too. On the other hand, i have the same Samsung as a computer monitor and it still have quite a lot of bloom, especially off-angle. Also uncomparable on color reproduction...

Forgive me but … seriously! What sort of question is that? The easy answer is yes of course, Sony make the best processor but well let me think … can you afford it ( I assume you can or what’s the point in asking ) what size is the room , is it a bright room , do you want to game or watch movies or stream etc etc .. Give the guy a chance if you ask for a recommendation by up including a few pertinent facts that help with ant tv buying decision. Apologies if you think I’m a tad rude but I know our host won’t say what everyone is thinking. Good luck with your new purchase.

A80L for sure; but even better for a S90C. Nice discounts now. And its better than both

Depends on the usage? If you watch a lot of movies and older content (like on cable vision.) Or overall just stream a lot! Then go with the Sony because of its upscaling and processing. If you play a lot of video games then go with the Samsung. I’d personally choose the S90C over this tv though. It’s basically the S95C if you get the 77inch that comes with the 2nd gen panel. And it’s about $2000-$2300 right now. Thats a huge deal!

All these tv's will be hundreds or thousands off by black friday and they still make profit on those

@@paulcox2447 well if they make cellphones for 10 bucks like the apple phones TV's are probably 50 bucks to make since it just lights and cheap chips

Here in Canada the new 2024 Samsung TVs all come with ATSC 1.0 no ATSC 3.0 I always thought ATSC 3.0 was better to have. Can you please elaborate?

According to atsc 3.0 it has drm protection and have certain channels that are encrypted and they require a tv tuner or some type of way to decrypt the channels since the free channels are no longer free. Lon seidman and antenna man on youtube have videos explaining more about atsc 3.0. I'm still learning more about it myself.

I HAVE the 65 inch S90C and I am not as blown away as I was lead to believe. Blue color where they shouldn't be. I was lead to believe this tv to be the be all to end all, awesome etc. . Over saturated, maybe it is just my tv as I haven't had the chance for the company that sold me it to diagnose the problem, but time will tell. Do your research and make sure the people selling you the tv stand behind their warranties.

@@allenandlaurendarie5607 Thank you a lot for the advice/ help/ feedback. But may I ask you a question if you don’t mind answering? When did you buy the tv? Because apparently all the 77 inch models come with a 2nd gen panel. And the 55 & 65 inches has a 50/50 chance of coming with the 2nd gen panel if bought late 2023. So it’s basically the S95C, with the exception of the one connect box and a slight decrease in brightness. And I was either going to buy it from Amazon or my old job at Best Buy.