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Samurai politics are awesome, ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES YET! SHOGUN 1x6 "Ladies of the Willow World"

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@nyantaro-momo2
@nyantaro-momo2 4 ай бұрын
I'm Japanese, and episode 6 was also a very good episode. I also enjoy the general's reactions on this channel every time. thank you. Fumi Nikaido, who plays Ochiha no Kata, is a very popular actress among young people, and she usually plays characters like Fuji and also plays sweet love stories. She is popular with young people.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Love Fuji and the actress that plays her is great. Glad you're enjoying. Thank you for watching! - Cam
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 4 ай бұрын
Fumi-chan is cute & very soft-spoken in her interviews.
@khaii13
@khaii13 4 ай бұрын
All hail Ochiba-sama! Also, that running gag where Yabushige had to write his will. AGAIN. 😂😂😂
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
LMFAO!
@nont18411
@nont18411 4 ай бұрын
I think the real reason Ochiba wants to kill Toranaga is probably that Toranaga is the only one who knows that the heir isn’t Taiko’s son (He shot blanks on 100 women and only hit the jackpot with her? Anyone would know something’s fishy). She might fear that Toranaga might expose the illegitimacy.
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 4 ай бұрын
The reason is that Ochiba is the descendant of the Kuroda clan that belonged to the guy who was betrayed by Mariko's dad. The clan that managed to unite half of Japan. Ochiba's mum was Kuroda's little sister & that made her Kuroda's niece. Since Kuroda held so much power before & then abruptly stopped by Mariko's dad, she thinks she had the right to rule through her family's legacy.
@angelbedolla347
@angelbedolla347 4 ай бұрын
She’s just the rightful ruler and Toronaga conspired to kill her dad.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Apologies in advanced if I mispronounced or forgot some characters names, I'm the worst when it comes to remember names. - Cam
@Jakeylicious7891
@Jakeylicious7891 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that Torunaga pillowed with Ochiba and he is the father of the Taiko's heir, which the Taiko doesn't know about and the first wife (I forgot her name knows). And I have a feeling Ochiba fell for Torunaga for her to have this so much hatred for him, where her feelings weren't reciprocrated. The way Torunaga and Ochiba stared at each other on the scene where the Taiko was on his deathbed made me feel like something was going on, where the Taiko hinted that Torunaga likes beautiful women.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting. This would be a good twist. - Cam.
@peetabells
@peetabells 3 ай бұрын
The brothel scene is honestly so underrated. It's easily one of the best scenes in the entire show. Mariko being self-conscious when Kiku showed up; Kiku actually servicing Mariko knowing what she wants; Mariko wanting to give in but reigns it back when she remembers her duty (i actually thought they were gonna show some flashback of her and john doing it because she seemed so hot and bothered already); Mariko intentionally mistranslating John (out of jealousy 👀). The cinematography with Kiku blending in the background as Mariko comes to the foreground with her translation also changing from 3rd POV fo 1st... and she rarely uses "I". Damn. I know John was hard. 😩 Gotta give props to the writers and director for making this brothel scene so tasteful when they had every opportunity to show nudity but opted out for gratuitous scenes. Instead, we get these intense yet character driven moments for both Kiku and Mariko... Also, Lady Ochiba 😩.
@user-tx6xc4om6n
@user-tx6xc4om6n 4 ай бұрын
今度の将軍は80年版と違って、北野映画の様なカラーを採用する事で、不気味さを増している。
@tlj22001
@tlj22001 4 ай бұрын
I think Toranaga is protecting Mariko by sending John to the willow world. The rumour mill is working overdrive obviously and is putting Mariko at great risk as a married woman
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Damn never thought about it like that. That could definitely be true.
@khaii13
@khaii13 4 ай бұрын
The first few minutes revealed that Mariko was unaware of his father’s plans and held contempt for Hidekatsu Toda-sama even then as she felt her father was discarding her, so much so that when Toranaga revealed truth bombs to her, clearing up her misunderstanding, i was literally shouting at the screan “YES! THANK YOU!” So much so that the next door neighbour knocked on my door to check if i was OK. Lol And it puts Hidekatsu Toda-sama in a more sympathetic light, though of course, we still disapprove of the Domestic violence. But it is shown that Mariko disdained his marriage to Buntaro from the beginning since, and i didnt know this until this episode, she views him as below his station as evidenced by her comment in the flashback about how her father is discarding him, and also by his comment to Toranaga about how his father should have married her better. And Toranaga Knows. And Kiku-dono knows. And she was setting something up, but Mariko caught herself.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
I love your reaction! lmao. Thank you for the insight! - Cam
@StryderK
@StryderK 4 ай бұрын
When you forcefully and illegally overthrow a government, coup d’tat
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that was the phrase I was looking for just couldn't think of it! Thank you. - Cam
@jonathanblaze1648
@jonathanblaze1648 4 ай бұрын
Lady Ochiba is sexy and scary at the same time! Mariko is my favorite character then probably Yabushige
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 4 ай бұрын
Taiko is an inactive/retired regent. Professionally, he's still a shogun, but much less active in political & military matters & the council of regents where Ishido & other lords is ruling now, is the group that handle those matters. The reasons of being a taiko could be because of old age or sickness. Kuroda was Ochiba's uncle. Kuroda's younger sister was Ochiba's mother. He wasn't a shogun, but he managed to unite half of Japan. He could've been a shogun if Mariko's dad didn't enact a coup d'état against him & won. That's why Ochiba here is very ambitious to seize power from Toranaga. She thinks she has the right as both a descendant of Kuroda clan, a consort of the taiko. Since she's a woman & can't get involved directly in political or military matter, she uses men around her such as Ishido & other regents, including her own son whom she pushes to be the next shogun.
@auntvesuvi3872
@auntvesuvi3872 4 ай бұрын
Thanks to Cam and Demica! 🗾
@patrickwood4667
@patrickwood4667 4 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, back in the day Japanese woman didn't wear under were under their Kimonos.
@torukamaktoyu4900
@torukamaktoyu4900 2 ай бұрын
you should reconsider this episode under this light: the taiko copulated with dozens of women, yet none of them got pregnant, except one. what are the odds on that? sounds like someone's "swimmers" don't know how to swim, and someone knew that and found someone else's "swimmers." btw the clit joke was funny as hell fam 😆
@ghostkiller_5839
@ghostkiller_5839 4 ай бұрын
I guess the part where they want to find a plan that isn't certain death, they don't really have an idea. I think in this case the Anjin comes with a briliant idea to conquer the castle.
@lurkingposter
@lurkingposter 4 ай бұрын
He already said they can use the cannons to destroy the castle walls and avoid a siege.
@ghostkiller_5839
@ghostkiller_5839 4 ай бұрын
@@lurkingposterhe has told them in episode 4, but toranaga wasn't present at this time . If john would explain his idea to toranaga personally without marikos Intervention like( this is not in the interest of our lord), toranaga would agree or not?
@lurkingposter
@lurkingposter 4 ай бұрын
@@ghostkiller_5839 Yeah, I'm saying it was already foreshadowed.
@Magnarud
@Magnarud 4 ай бұрын
Just for information. But this might be good to know. Historically, the Taiko and Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) are rivals; they are definitely not friends. Ochiba is the de facto head of the Taiko's clan. One thing that has bothered me is that Toranaga is portrayed very differently from Ieyasu. Objectively speaking, Toranaga should be the villain or antagonist. So, when Ochiba says that she has seen Toranaga making plans and conspiracies in the dark, that is actually more in line with the real Ieyasu. It might be that Toranaga is playing the audience hard in this one ;) And the real Ieyasu did not care for the heir.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Really appreciate the insight! - Cam
@ngocquoc2828
@ngocquoc2828 4 ай бұрын
Cool fact thay they show Mariko family members are Monks as like the Akechi Mitsuhide
@djtyshon
@djtyshon 4 ай бұрын
Are you guys taking recommendations?
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
Always, we have a lengthy watchlist so no promises if/when we get to it but please if you have something you would like us to react, feel free to tell us! - Cam
@djtyshon
@djtyshon 4 ай бұрын
@ChannelSee1 if you guys would react to An Interview with Vampire that would be great. Black lead show 7 ep 1st season and the second comes out in May
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
We'll have to check it out and see. I think somebody has recommended this before so we will definitely have to consider it.
@djtyshon
@djtyshon 4 ай бұрын
@@ChannelSee1 I hope you guys check it out a very underrated show
@patrickwood4667
@patrickwood4667 4 ай бұрын
LOL odd bit of info
@user-mn4kx4ch8c
@user-mn4kx4ch8c 4 ай бұрын
Marikos a suicidal psychopath. Buntaro saved her life and she resent him for it. She gave him no feelings, no sex, no nothing. And the guys career got sabotaged coz he didnt let her sepukku, coz it makes him look like a kingslayer sympathizer. Then he suspects his wife is cheating on him w some white guy. Said white guy gets him drunk and taunts him infront of his wife. Imagine how the guy feels? Guys getting absolutely disrespected, by his lord, by his wife, and his community. And theres no history of him beating his wife. The one time it happened was coz he got shitfaced. He even apologizes for it to the man who slept with his wife
@nont18411
@nont18411 4 ай бұрын
Guy beat up his wife but somehow the abuse victim is the “psychopath” for you😂😂😂 Mariko is the new Skyler White for you, I suppose.
@topaz4981
@topaz4981 4 ай бұрын
Another guy making excuses for the abuser. Buntaro misunderstands the situation, feeling offended by Blackthorn, yet he only dares to lash out at his own wife, and even comes up with a bunch of stupid excuses. It's really ridiculous. And Mariko is not a suicidal psychopath. She is hopeless due to family tragedies, and sees death alongside her family as liberation. Buntaro's words towards Mariko in the current series have been consistently venomous, bordering on psychological abuse. He feels Mariko owes him gratitude, showing complete disrespect and unwillingness to understand her perspective. To be honest, Mariko doesn't owe this abuser anything.
@khaii13
@khaii13 4 ай бұрын
Im glad you got that part. Im sure there will be plenty of people who will accuse you of victim blaming. I comment your cojones for commenting at all. The only thing i would critique you on is on calling Mariko-sama a “suicidal psycopath”. That was their Custom. And, in reality, Hidekatsu Toda-sama was honour bound to kill his new wife or allow her to commit seppuku so that he removes the stain of being married to a traitor’s daughter from his name. Perhaps Aketchi Jinsai-sama married her off to Buntaro because he knew he cannot bear to have her daughter killed. But all this time, Mariko has disdain for the marriage even before they got married because it was a “useless alliance” in her own words.
@user-mn4kx4ch8c
@user-mn4kx4ch8c 4 ай бұрын
​@@nont18411 Mariko wants to commit suicide and is hell bent on revenge for her fathers death. She constantly hides her emotions, above and beyond the other japanese characters in the show. Also exhibits zero sympathy to Fuji or other chaarcters when they are in peril. why did she not save the gardener by talking to Anjin? Buntaro or no Buntaro, only psychopaths behave like this
@user-mn4kx4ch8c
@user-mn4kx4ch8c 4 ай бұрын
​@@topaz4981 In that case, neither does Buntaro owe her anything. He should just let her commit seppuku. That would save himself the heartache and also save his career. His father, Hiromatsu, was a famous general. Mariko is the one thing between him and attaining his father's status.
@Ghost-kn9bd
@Ghost-kn9bd 4 ай бұрын
This was one of the worst episodes I don’t understand the praise for it. Was really boring and no real progress to the story was made until towards the end of the episode.
@luisantonio8281
@luisantonio8281 4 ай бұрын
Boring because there was no action? This is a historical drama. This episode gives us keener insight into how everything eventually unfolded to the way it is now, especially the story between Mariko and Ochiba. Grow up and stop expecting fights every time.
@Ghost-kn9bd
@Ghost-kn9bd 4 ай бұрын
@@luisantonio8281 This has nothing to do with action. Episodes before barely had any if at all but were still great. This episode just was boring because the things it focused on are just dragging the main plot and most of it was unnecessary. I want to see more of Toranaga and the main plot not a long brothel scene and waste of time. Story between mariko and Ochiba is fine but doesn’t need a whole episode dedicated to it it’s just a waste of a week.
@lurkingposter
@lurkingposter 4 ай бұрын
@@luisantonio8281 I hate when people just make up shit to dismiss what someone is saying. Where does OP complain about there being no action? This episode barely progresses the main plot or the romance sub plot. It's mainly characterization and backstory for Mariko and Ochiba and setup for the actual war. Personally, I enjoyed it but I understand the criticism.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 4 ай бұрын
I understand the criticism, I personally enjoy backstory and nuanced character moments. While it doesn't advance the main plot this episode helps flesh out character motivations and progresses character arcs. - Cam.
@FridayN35
@FridayN35 4 ай бұрын
This eps it's about character development and back story dummy
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