Thanks for watching! Don't get me wrong, the Samyang 24mm 1.8 FE lens is a good lens for the price. However considering astrophotographers want that large aperture and most likely want to use it at 1.8, I find the results a little disappointing. Hopefully you find this video useful! I plan to revisit this lens in a future video and review it from the perspective of landscape photos shot above f/5.6. So subscribe for that! Buy the Samyang 24mm 1.8: amzn.to/3Bgvklx Buy the Samyang 24mm 2.8: amzn.to/3Bgvklx
@acouragefann Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure any f2+ lens that isn't apochromatic can withstand a 300% view. I own the 40mm 1.4 sigma which is considered one of the best loca corrected lenses in the world (it's also about 1.2kg) and on high contrast areas wide open it is still perceptible at a 100% view, far moreso at 300%. This is not knocking you, but I think your expectations for very bright optic (and a rather small one at that) might be a tad higher than reasonable. Have you checked whether the samyangs aberrations are reduced at f2.4-f2.8? A boon of big aperture lenses is not necessarily a flawless wide open performance (this is a rather newish trend of the past 5 years with very big complex and heavy lens designs) but an ability to produce better results stopped down slightly compared to a lens that starts at that lower aperture.
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
The point was that this lens is advertised solely on its astro capability. Given most people shoot astro wide open, how can you say it's a good lens when every star is surrounded by purple fringing. Yes it's removable to a degree but it does change the way the sky is represented (especially when some natural colours in the night sky are red/purple) - speaking specifically of nebulas/miky way.
@acouragefann Жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams I tend to shoot astro stopped down by 2/3-1 stop (on pretty much any lens - if I started with a 2.8 lens [Tamron 15-30mm fx] it'd probably perform best from F3.5-4 onwards) because it reduces coma smearing and CAs considerably on every fast prime, then stack 2-3 images to make up for the 2/3-1 stop of extra noise in post, as I find the noise cleanup easier than removing these aberrations, which, as you say, can also incorrectly represent the night sky. I'm merely saying that the Samyang follows the trend of just about any small, bright aperture prime and when it comes to coma, does better than most in my experience.
@dwaynepiper3261 Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to hear someone that actually gets the point of a f1.4 lens. It's for better IQ at F2 -2.8 compared to an F2-2.8 lens. It's not shooting everything wide open unless absolutely necessary because of lighting issues and taking some IQ loss.
@Seapatico Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this so much! As a wedding photographer, I end up in a lot of CA "torture test" situations, so when reviewers are like "Yeah it has a little CA in this really tough scenario, but otherwise it's okay", I don't know what to make of it. But this helped me a lot to understand that it could be a real issue for me.
@princeharbinger Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honest take on this lens. I'm more concerned with coma performance. That fringing should in theory go away with a +5 slider adjustment. With that being said. What lens do you deem worthy for this particular application?
@droneeye2618Ай бұрын
I bought this lens second hand after a rave review from Christopher Frost and found it completely unusable with its chromatic aberration and then had to resell it
@JackWoodhamsАй бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one with the issue!
@JC.A268 күн бұрын
@@JackWoodhamswhy would you be glad somebody had issues with the lens? lol
@JackWoodhams7 күн бұрын
@@JC.A26 It was more about others finding the same problems as some Samyang fanboys were commenting saying I was exaggerating the issue.
@alexmirza52106 ай бұрын
Wide lenses can be a pain. Always some issue like vignetting, coma, CA, distortion.. At least with aspherical elements they're better than they were decades ago.
@youtubetech7995 Жыл бұрын
I have such a lens and it has no aberrations at all, it's super clean, just like a GMaster and even better.
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Got a link to some samples? No JPEGS, raw files please.
@mokkie0072 жыл бұрын
No issue with my copy of 24mm
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
try 1.8 and shoot at contrasted backgrounds, 1.8 normal situations is fine.
@TheAugusts2 жыл бұрын
Great review man! Thank you for the info!
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Had to do a video about it after seeing my tests. Hopefully people find the video 👀
@schnubbel762 ай бұрын
I am very happy with this lens, but the one problem i have is that the eye-autofocus seems to never hit on F 1.8. It either focusses on the eyebrows or nowhere near the eye at all. Going to F 2.0 fixes it, from here on theieye-autofocus works flawlessly. But of course i would like to use it on F 1.8 especially for portraits.
@DDHDTV Жыл бұрын
oh no I was set on getting this but you’re braking my heart. did you confirm if your lense was decentered in the end? edit: at least this will probably cause me to buy from something like Amazon instead of buying used, so that I can check for bad copies
@kinsiz2 жыл бұрын
Probably bad QC as you said, bcuz honestly most CA def. seemed lower on the supposed new one compared to the horrendous levels of the 1st copy. Anyway, good thing you post some alternative stuff to slap the hype off of ppls minds :)
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
I kept the lens in the end, if you see the comment below from Gustavo Ibarra, he had the same issue. So I think it's just the lens.
@zsoltvaranka9741 Жыл бұрын
Samyang was always known about its questionable quality control. As an example I had 2 MF lenses earlier, the 12/2 and the 10/2.8 fisheye for Fuji from them. Both were severely decentered, fringed and unsharp at one side of the image. Then decided no more Samyang lenses. Now their optics are much better, but still, better to pretest the sample you are going to buy instead of hopping on the luck train of Samyang
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is probably the last Samyang lens I buy.
@varnamq32 жыл бұрын
I can empathise with you, Did you try contacting Samyang directly?, UK distribution might have got a batch which might all have the same problem. You could ask Samyang to send you a copy of the lens they send to the "reviewers" not based in UK so that you can review it based on that, and settle this matter with the ambassadors once for all :).
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I don't have a contact at Samyang.
@superelectic455 ай бұрын
In his review Christopher Frost noticed purple fringeing too but it went away from f4 onwards. However I think his test chart is quite close so there is distance to consider. I've founf the sharper the lens the more chance of CA you get which I know can be a total pain. Maybe sharpening the 35mm f2.8 in post using a high pass filter is a better option lol.
@tsembelk Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I was just about to order it. I'm in Canada so I'd have to order it from the US ( Rokinon variant) and it'd be a bummer to return it.
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Glad you found this video useful! It's worth noting that I did keep the lens because as a video lens it's quite good. But yeah photo wise it could be better.
@yaot.15232 жыл бұрын
i m going to buy this tonight, luckily see your review, ur the star !!
@seanhuang33232 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with purple fringing from the sample photos he posted when he released the product. Thanks for confirming my thoughts (this is google translate)
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
Glad the video is being seen by people who need to see it, unbelievable really isn't it?!
@QuietOC2 жыл бұрын
Many more expensive primes also show purple fringing wide open. If anything it tends to be worse with better aligned lenses.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on the CA visible in this? 👀 Particularly on stars?
@ZhorellskiАй бұрын
Did firmware update fixed the problems?
@JackWoodhamsАй бұрын
Nope this is a lens issue
@tykimikk8605 Жыл бұрын
if you take astrophotography that seriously, why even consider samyang, A BUDGET lens.
@deathbystereo- Жыл бұрын
You can take photography very seriously and not have the money or want to spend the money on more expensive lenses
@davidhaesler837110 ай бұрын
Silly sausage 😂. Not everyone has 1000+ to further throw into their hobby after buying all other kit. Of course people will gravitate to a "miracle" solution at perhaps a 1/3 of the price.
@MarkusGebhard Жыл бұрын
Picked one up yesterday. CA is pretty bad with my copy too... Did you get another one with different results?
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Nope second one was exactly the same. Just lived to deal with it 😅
@MarkusGebhard Жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams That's pretty disappointing. I bought it for Astro, but I doubt any star will have a different colour other than purple with this lens...
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
@@MarkusGebhard thanks for highlighting the issue. Great to know I'm not alone and that some of these comments were clearly just Samyang fanboys. 👀😅
@lindakantes8736 ай бұрын
I love mine no pproblems at all --I wouldn't be doing landscapes at 1.8 anyway ... stop down to F4 --to F6 for that I would say
@TheJ_G2 жыл бұрын
This is the biggest price you pay for lower prices “nice” lenses… Bad QC. I’m sure they make some fantastic copies, but it’s always a gamble.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
👌
@ekphotography2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have watched 100's of videos so far bc I am interested in this lens, I have to say you must have a bad copy because there are plenty of reviews in all conditions and never saw anything that bad. You surely got a bad copy. Did you replace it or any updates on this? Yes there is usually some CA wide open but even the Sony GM 1.4 and other "better" lenses have CA wide open. I do not shoot stars, but do shoot al lot of video and CA is not good in video or easy to "fix".
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
The problem with channels doing reviews is that if samyang sent them the lenses they will often send ones with better alignment and no problems. If you look at the photo examples I gave from users on flickr it's clear I'm not the only one with an issue like this. In fact, even one commenter on this video didn't believe me, bought the lens then it had the same problem! I also has two copies like this, so... two bad lenses? That makes the issue even worse because samyangs Qc must be all over the place.
@jamesssten Жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams you are wrong, I have tested this also, no contract and I can say, this lens is beast for this price. Only 2 things which I missed were metal body and weather sealing. You had to have wrong one. It happens
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
@@jamesssten well I mean, I'm not WRONG. Plenty of people commenting have had the same issue. It's not about right or wrong but whether people are experiencing the same problem. I'm sure people got some good copies. Also this lens does have weather "protection" how good though I don't know.
@jamesssten Жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams pardon, my mistake. It has weather protection on 5 points. No good, but something is there :-)
@ehsantaghipour5637 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how CA is when you use the lens correction profile in Lightroom auto correct. Also as some people said it's normal for 24mm to show some fringes while they are wide open. even GM lens has it to some extend.
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
There's not a lens profile for this lens in lightroom. You do have to manually do it and yes the purple fringing does get reduced but you end up with grey halos around everything 🥴
@PoorMansPerspective2 жыл бұрын
Nice find. I have the same Lens but I don't if it's the same quality as yours. Do you have a sample photo that I can download?
@yaot.15232 жыл бұрын
do u have a sample that shown us?
@PoorMansPerspective2 жыл бұрын
@@yaot.1523 i returned mine too much CA
@yaot.15232 жыл бұрын
@@PoorMansPerspective cannot resist to try it out myself, so got the nearly new 2nd hand. I will give it a try tmr day time, hope its a good one.
@yaot.15232 жыл бұрын
@@PoorMansPerspective so did u get another 24mm after that?
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
@@yaot.1523 did you get the Samyang in the end?
@Recycler-tq1cl2 ай бұрын
I wonder how it compares with Sony fe 28mm f2
@JackWoodhams2 ай бұрын
24 mm is surprisingly much wider and the f2 has just as many issues with astro etc.
@BBence-ts9jh5 ай бұрын
the sony 24mm f1.4 gm has more ca, and tons of distortion mid frame, i'm actually planning to sell it and use this lens instead, much cheaper and i can use that money to buy more equipment
@VoicesofMusic Жыл бұрын
2nd copy looks better.....
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Still not great though and given the comments... A pretty common issue.
@s20091504 Жыл бұрын
NOT FOCUSING PROPERLY THEN ZOOMING IN 300% AND CRYING
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
... not focusing properly? Most of these are autofocus. Which many people will use AF in these situations. Most are manually focused and could never get rid of the purple or green aberration. Grow up.
@Bigtbone205 Жыл бұрын
Does the CA go away when stopped down a little? E.g at F2.8 or f4?
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Around 4 yes
@thmallik2 жыл бұрын
I am going through this problems as well
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
Yep! It's a common issue with this lens. Wish the samyang fanboys would just accept it 🤣
@yaot.15232 жыл бұрын
i guess fanboys got the first batch copy which are the best.
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
Which lens and cam are you using for this video?
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
Lol the Samyang 24mm and A7III but for video it's not as bad. It's more Astro and very contrasty scenes.
@2Megapixels Жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Hi man, the autofocus works well? I have the A7C and want this lens specially for vídeo
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
@@2Megapixels I actually find it a bit wonky with the a7iv. But I never had issues with the a7iii.
@IanHobday2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully just a bad copy because that's pretty terrible CA.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
But why are so many people getting bad copies 👀 especially judging by those pics on Flickr
@IanHobday2 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Good question. Sounds like a lot of the reviews aren't being as objective as they should be. :(
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
@@IanHobday that's what I think. I just can't imagine getting TWO bad copies is a likely thing to happen.
@IanHobday2 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Samyang has had QC problems in the past. Alternatively they could be cherry-picking the copies they send to reviewers or fine-tuning them before shipment... Glad I haven't bought one of these lenses yet. Wish there was an alternative, I like the size/weight of f1.8 primes. I have the 20/1.8G and the 35/1.8, would really like a 24/1.8 too.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
@@IanHobday that's what I think has happened! I've seen some reviews of this lens and the astro photos don't have a glimmer of CA. Literally perfect. So what's up with both of mine 👀🤣. Feel you man, I don't really want the 24mm g master as the focus breathing is nuts. I've read the Viltrox 24mm has pretty bad CA as well. Maybe I just deal with it.
@aliavdic59408 ай бұрын
Got samyang few days ago, tested it, it is not like yours, I can send raw files of astro if needed
@JackWoodhams8 ай бұрын
Did you shoot at f1.8? And what camera?
@aliavdic59408 ай бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Yes, on a7iii
@JackWoodhams8 ай бұрын
@@aliavdic5940 Sure you can send me some raws. Email is on my channel under about > contact
@JackWoodhams8 ай бұрын
Ah KZfaq changed it, click on my profile then where it says Sony Photographer click the arrow, it brings up an about section and email is there.
@charruaporelmundo2 жыл бұрын
mmhh...that is to much, that lens must be faulty. Mine is on the way, will be testing it.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
Let me know how yours is when you receive it 👍
@charruaporelmundo2 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Well. I got same results as you at 1.8 . I will go to the same spot another day with my 20 sony to see how it does. It also doesn’t do sunstars at any aperture, but I need to do a better test during the night. Maybe that last characteristic is due it was basically focus for astrophotography ?
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
@@charruaporelmundo Sunstars were fine for me at about f16+ - obviously the sun needs to be slightly blocked by something for sunstars to appear, trees, leaves, buildings etc. So you had the same amount of CA at 1.8? That's dissapointing. Glad I made the video though, the product obviously has a lot more chromatic aberration that the reviewers are telling us!
@charruaporelmundo2 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Well. Mine is going back to ebay, sold a while ago a batis 25, will rebuy it.
@holdmylenscap72412 жыл бұрын
Bought the lens when it came out, never had this issue with it. Probably that's why reviewers won't tell you this because they don't experienced it.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with you however many other people have experienced this... Including the photos I shared in this video from other users 🤔🤣... Also you're a samyang ambassador. You get paid to say they're good 😉
@SourPlanet2 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams lol.. and crickets on the reply from them. Skewered. Glad I saw this video. I shoot around NYC and while CA is going to be an issue with any lens shot in harsh conditions... these samples are egregious. Batis 25/2 it is!
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
@@SourPlanet 🦗🦗🦗 🤣🤣
@holdmylenscap72412 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams my wife is the ambassador and 24 is my lens :) But the 24 we bought when it came out, about 8 months before she became an ambassador. Also you got it wrong, we are not using Samyang lenses because she's an ambassador, she is an ambassador because she was a long time Samyang user. Anyway, what I wrote still stands. I have friends with this lens, I am using this lens and never had this issue, and apart from you I did not hear anyone having this issue. It could be more of a QC problem, which unfortunately Samyang is known for... ps.: just because someone is an ambassador it does not means they kissing the rear of the company...
@holdmylenscap72412 жыл бұрын
@@SourPlanet did not notice the reply. And to be honest usually I won't respond to such weak fallacies like "You're an ambassador so you can't have a honest opinion." as it only shows me that he has no idea how being an ambassador works. Also, _I_ am not an ambassador.
@Bog19792 жыл бұрын
I radically disagree with the observation. Not that I contest your own experience. I'm sure it's about a bad copy as mine is perfectly usable in harsh bright contrasted conditions, with respect of CA.. and definitively not "terrible". I'd even say "better than the average". Sounds like the most weird observation to me. Most reviews of the lens are not sharing your views with respect of CA.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
That's why I made this video, because they either all got better copies or are not being entirely honest. 🤫 The CA around the stars is pretty terrible. The video must be watched full screen on a pc and not on a phone to properly see how bad it is
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
And it's also weird how you're the only person who has commented that it looks ok, when other comments have said it looks bad.
@aqlord Жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams umm dude... watching on a phone might be a better choice since every phone screen today has better colors and better calibrated to them (Dynamic AMOLED 2X) which also indicates a higher PPI (Pixel density) therefore better resolution and all of these are in contrast to your average gaming monitor nowadays. You're telling me you're suggesting people watch this on an inferior display and not on an OLED screen? Makes no sense, mate.
@JackWoodhams Жыл бұрын
@@aqlord watching on a 1080p 6" screen Vs a 4k 32" trust me, big dfference. It's not about pixel density it's about magnification. The size and scale makes it easier to see the imperfections. When videos are compressed down to the size of a phone screen details are lost because our eyes have trouble distinguishing pixel by pixel. And that's why some videos look "sharper" on a phone, because all the pixels are crammed together. But watching on a bigger screen makes it easier to get up close and study the examples in the video. Surely you know how scale works?
@kaimultivideo49562 жыл бұрын
Desaturate your magentas and stop crying.
@JackWoodhams2 жыл бұрын
Except that still shows a desaturated grey glow around things. It's not actually that easy for astrophotography either. Only one crying is you, as if you feel the need to comment this way on a video 😂😂
@kaimultivideo49562 жыл бұрын
@@JackWoodhams Which looks infinitely better than glowing purple tree branches, and works fine for just about every media format in existence minus giant prints.