Sanding up to 3,000 grit?? Why?? I only sand to 600. Watch why.

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Evan Steger

Evan Steger

2 жыл бұрын

In this video I demonstrate why I don’t sand above 600. Sanding over 1,000 grit only closes the pores and makes polishing more difficult. Polishing metal isn’t like polishing paint. But also polishing by machine is different than polishing and sanding by hand. When sanding and polishing by hand higher grits help a lot. Some hand polishes can take out 400-800 grit but likely higher is needed. Thank you to Keenan for helping with this video. Hope seeing this video helps you understand my sanding thoughts and process better.
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@alecmcpherson8647
@alecmcpherson8647 2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. I've had this problem and kept thinking that finer and finer sandpaper was the solution. Thank you very much for pointing this out.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful. Glad I could help.
@rebarguy4051
@rebarguy4051 Жыл бұрын
Yep I had the same problem.i thought the same
@billyvice1520
@billyvice1520 Жыл бұрын
So glad I stumbled across this video! Weird how things work but someone must of knew I was trying to restore my wheels. Lol, I've wasted a lot of time and sandpaper thinking the higher the better. It makes so much sense now that the higher the paper the more pores your closing. The compound has to have something to adhere too duh. Lol, I'm certainly subscribing to this guy!
@caseysconcepts2012
@caseysconcepts2012 Жыл бұрын
Depending on what you're working on, I completely agree with you Evan. Good job buddy
@roscomcfarland204
@roscomcfarland204 Жыл бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing I’ve been having the same issue. I used to do cut and polish paint, wheels, trim, headlights, do clear bra and do window tint for a living. Long story short rn I’m working on mirror polishing on knives and good lord I’ve been struggling making the process quicker. Harder with 60+ HRC materials, trying to take the stonewash off is the reason I even went to sand paper to begin with. I’ll have to try the 600 on a throw away. Diamond lapping compound is all I’ve found lately that’s been hard enough to really erase all the marks but that compound gets expensive
@matweber3068
@matweber3068 4 ай бұрын
this is why i keep looking---i find someone who knows what they are doing--i been doing the 2000 like most people say with poor results--thank you so much--glad i found a pro--now i wont waste my time and get it right--thanks again
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Ай бұрын
Happy to help! Thank you for watching, glad you found this helpful.
@georgemyers6518
@georgemyers6518 Жыл бұрын
This is interesting for sure. I never realized that metal polishing worked that way. The exact opposite of wet sanding and polishing paint. Please keep the videos coming.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Appreciate it.
@timliscum2861
@timliscum2861 4 ай бұрын
I just wanted to stop in a say how much this has helped me.. Im building a new snowmobile and was struggling polishing the new alum tunnel.. I even tried up to 5000.. lol.. after watching your video.... I now go straight to 800 grit sanding and only 800, then 2 cuts with orange buff/Brown and then right to white buff/purple for a near mirror finish..
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Ай бұрын
Happy to hear this was helpful to you. Thank you for watching!
@briandenney3879
@briandenney3879 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the educational information! I've been told wrong by a whole lot of guys that say the finer the paper the deeper the shine and I've wasted so much time with the black hayes and cloudy shine. Extremely helpful video!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
No problem. Glad to have been some help. Thank you for watching and supporting. Just trying to get info out there.
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 Жыл бұрын
Hadn't I see this video prior starting my bicycle restoration project, I would have given up after first attempt. By following your brilliant video here, Evan, I was able to get nice mirror shine with less effort than I thought needed. Thank you, man! You deserve 1 million subscribers!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I truly appreciate your kind words and I am happy to hear that you were able to get the results you were wanting.
@williammahlert8293
@williammahlert8293 2 жыл бұрын
I've only gone up to 800 a couple times before I started to cut, i thought about trying a higher grit and after seeing this video I'm glad I stopped at 800, I was amazed at the fact I was able to make those tanks shine at all ( 20 to 25 years never been polished before and very rough) my customers were very happy and as surprised as I was
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks for tuning in.
@donaldmatthies6026
@donaldmatthies6026 2 жыл бұрын
Evan, That was a great explanation and the results speak for themselves. Thank you for taking time to film, edit and post this video.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
@alank616
@alank616 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Evan , You have the best channel for hands on advice , I have learnt so much about polishing and the products to use to get a top quality finish. 👍
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am happy to hear that the videos are helpful. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
@grahammay4727
@grahammay4727 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining so well.It is the opposite to what I thought and you explained why.Great video.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am glad this was helpful to you. Thanks for watching.
@mccormicklewis7023
@mccormicklewis7023 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips they come in really handy All you teach on here I’ve learned a whole bunch from you and thank you again
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Truly happy to hear that the videos and tips are helpful to you. I appreciate you watching and supporting this channel.
@marktaylor6952
@marktaylor6952 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to help others, this video helped me out today
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help.Thanks for watching.
@a.j.casper8873
@a.j.casper8873 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on sanding metal I’ve watched. I watched from bell to bell. Thank You
@SPYD0R
@SPYD0R 10 ай бұрын
Very informative and expertly presented: thanks for taking the time to share it.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch! Appreciate your compliments, happy to hear they are helpful.
@starion88esir
@starion88esir Жыл бұрын
This explains why EVERY time I've ever attempted to polish anything I've gotten garbage result. Days wasted on small projects like calipers and valve covers to end up with no shine. Thank you for the information!!! I'm going to give it another shot not going above 600.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Truly hope it helps. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
@donpias3447
@donpias3447 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome demonstration. Thanks for the tip!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@chadcolby1320
@chadcolby1320 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Now I understand why some of the stuff I did didn’t come out well. Thanks!!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching and commenting.
@sigbjrnnerhus7031
@sigbjrnnerhus7031 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Man! Great informative video. I was about to hit it with 1200 grit before polish, now I’m heading for 600. Thanks. Best regards, SN.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Happy to help. Thanks for watching
@bencojo6846
@bencojo6846 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Evan, and you just proved my theory wrong, because on cars the higher the grade the better the outcome, so thank you very very much for all the information. You are truly an inspiration
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@TripleGAutoDetailing
@TripleGAutoDetailing Жыл бұрын
WoW... that was so informative! Priceless!!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching and commenting.
@michaelrohr4280
@michaelrohr4280 2 жыл бұрын
I've been polishing my cast aluminum Harley stuff the wrong way for years thank you for the tutorial. 👍
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
You bet, glad it helped you out.
@jrothstein69
@jrothstein69 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I decided to undertake the polishing of my aluminum front door, which I thought would be a simple process with the right tools, and have spent the last week raging at the innefective mess I created and countless hours spent. Like others, the most popular videos on youtube involve using up to 5000 grit sandpaper and make the process look as easy as 1-2-3. I couldn't figure out why for the life of me, the whole thing started to look *worse* as I went up in grits. Then when it came time to polish, the black film was practically impossible to remove without the use of solvent and left bands of haze. It was maddening! I just went and knocked the whole thing back down with brown scotch-brite pads, proceeded straight to buffing, and wow!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that this was helpful to you and you were able to finish your project! Thank you for watching!
@metromfg
@metromfg Жыл бұрын
Evan Thanks for the video, it really helps to know that info.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Glad to help and give back. Thank you for the support and the kind comment. I will continue to try to give my best when I can. If you ever have more questions hit me up.
@deborahlovrich1718
@deborahlovrich1718 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've had this problem before, now I know why , thank you
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@spitfirepaintball16
@spitfirepaintball16 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Was having problems polishing the lip on my wheels I was sanding up to 2000 before polishing! Sanded again at 600 and polished looks way better!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
@JustinBrannon
@JustinBrannon Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. I am very new to polishing. I polished my first wheel and it came out well, tried sanding the next one and I took it to 1,000 thinking the smoother the better. It came out with less shine then the first one. I was very confused but this video explains everything perfectly.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Glad this was helpful for you. I appreciating you watching and commenting.
@juliedube8148
@juliedube8148 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!! Finally found answers! Great explanations and demonstration :) Thank you so much for that video! Like many others in the comments below, I had this problem and I was also told the same about finer grit. I make mirror finish custom built kitchen hoods, and I struggled like crazy with those foggy marks on my last project: reflection of the light on the big flat inclined surface make it appeared even worse : ( I'm looking forward for better results now knowing this! Very helpful!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! I am so glad that this video was helpful. I appreciate you watching and let me know how it turned out.
@thomaskraemer6583
@thomaskraemer6583 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the tips and knowledge.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@mobileempire5522
@mobileempire5522 Жыл бұрын
Cool demonstration , thumbs up
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it.
@penniesfromheaven2511
@penniesfromheaven2511 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how I missed this vid, but this is one of your best sanding vids! I only polish my personal stuff, and I’ve spent all day before sanding one rim. Goes to show that finer isn’t always better. Thanks Evan!!
@penniesfromheaven2511
@penniesfromheaven2511 2 жыл бұрын
P.S. Buy your products from Evan, and you can follow along using exactly what he uses so there’s no surprises. I’ve learned what I know just from watching his vids. Pay attention, as it’s the small details that matter most, like using cotton terry, not microfiber. I polish my own, and the results speak for themselves.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate your support. Means a lot that you have supported the product business and this channel. Thank you for watching.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you again, it means a lot.
@lowlifegarage
@lowlifegarage 10 ай бұрын
Im glad i found this video. I sanded to 2k and couldnt get my exhaust to polish. Picking up 600 and gonna give ur another go
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 10 ай бұрын
Glad this helped you out.
@azalvez9833
@azalvez9833 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video I love it!!😀👍🏼
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate it, thank you.
@Legacy2.00
@Legacy2.00 5 ай бұрын
Wow, I’ve really learnt something today!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching.
@Plowguitarist
@Plowguitarist 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome info. One may think it’s like paint work, the finer the smoother the better the paint, right? But proof is in the pudding here. Aluminum is similar to skin, need the pours open to get a deep clean… great video my friend. Thank you so much.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your input! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment.
@prpr3432
@prpr3432 2 жыл бұрын
Very good information
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jacksonsummers8220
@jacksonsummers8220 Жыл бұрын
Awesome man this is helping me on some 22.5 alcoas
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@nixland
@nixland Ай бұрын
Thanks. Very interesting. I will try it on the aluminum.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and I hope this video helped
@samuelmoral6110
@samuelmoral6110 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Very interesting.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed itThanks for watching.
@JustAnotherViewer6
@JustAnotherViewer6 11 ай бұрын
I was watching a video on sharpening knives and 600 grit was the best and anything else wasnt needed and after seeing this i understand why, its the pores 😅 but in sharpening knives we also use chrome oxide to finish off the edge.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@13J96
@13J96 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much evan. I have tried with different machines and sanding and polishing materials on stainless steel and none of them worked in my case. Now i tried with your instructions in this video I've used 400,600,800 grit only and polished on 600 grit sanding it looks just perfect and 400,800 not that good as 600. Thanks again...🙏🙏🙏
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Super happy this was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@jamesniv8436
@jamesniv8436 2 жыл бұрын
I have been sanding bicycle parts with a bristle disc on a Drexel up to 2000 grit and had trouble getting the mirror finish first time i.stopped at 600 then went to pollish bam mirror finish thank you evan
@jamesniv8436
@jamesniv8436 2 жыл бұрын
Make that a dremel
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it just helps to know. Glad it worked. Thanks for watching and dropping a comment.
@lockdahubz3383
@lockdahubz3383 Жыл бұрын
Awesome demonstration!! Almuminum I only go to 600 or maybe 800 but stainless steel you need to get up into the 1000’s to get that mirror finish
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
I get mirror finish on my stainless at 600 grit also. If you sand anything properly you should be able to buff out 600 grit scratches. But I've also been doing this 24 years. LOL Thank you for watching and commenting.
@MrBankshotone
@MrBankshotone 2 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate this explanation, I polish raised numbers and letters cast plaques, I bought a grinder /polisher all the airways and bars and always struggle, first I have tried using buffs but it's like polishing a rake with the raised letters pulling the compound off and building up on the plaque, I can eventually get a shine but then I have a massive mess of compound to clean off before I can paint the background. I then started to just sand from 80 to 5000 and then use a liquid such as white diamond or a wizards. I do achieve a shine but it has swirl marks I can't get rid of. I was polishing one last week and tried using my fine buff and compound to get rid of the swirl marks and ended up with a mess of smeared compound, your video here explains why. Do you have any suggestions that may help with my situation? Thanks
@jucedcustoms2274
@jucedcustoms2274 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you so much for sharing your hard earned experience. Im looking to get a buffing kit any suggestions?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Depends what you are looking to do but goshineon.com has a bunch of helpful kits that I put together to simplify the choices. We have small kits and big kits.
@user-qe6xd1hm1w
@user-qe6xd1hm1w 2 ай бұрын
Thank you😊
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Ай бұрын
You're welcome
@kennethrobinson6771
@kennethrobinson6771 2 жыл бұрын
Great info
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bsmothers1985
@bsmothers1985 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. That makes alot of since man. Ive done a good bit of toons on pontoons and wheels and i had to work more. Lol. Man. Ima test this out lol.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Montgomeryleather2
@Montgomeryleather2 5 ай бұрын
This is insane I would have never gotten this bumper to shine without finding this video.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 4 ай бұрын
Happy to help! Thanks for watching.
@lilstan777
@lilstan777 Жыл бұрын
Amazing...Thank You
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you too! Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment.
@MrCbell57
@MrCbell57 Жыл бұрын
Aluminum does clog our pores but aluminum does not have pores. People have pores. Aluminum is a solid structure that does not breath nor secret fluids. After 600 grit the sand paper clots and does nothing. Higher grits cannot cut as well as they become clogged and unclean. They also cut less and less material so it’s unnoticeable. Also smoother aluminum surfaces cannot be buffed as well either as their is no tooth left for the compound to cut. But again aluminum has no pores. Perhaps you mean texture. Great video and good info for those not understanding aluminum and it’s qualities when it comes to polishing.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you @MrCbell57 for your input. I did not mean texture, but thank you again. I appreciate you taking time to watch and comment.
@ninaroselladewberry3935
@ninaroselladewberry3935 2 ай бұрын
aluminum can have porosity, which can be a major defect in castings and welds. Porosity can be caused by a combination of factors, including: Hydrogen: Hydrogen is the only gas that dissolves in aluminum, and its solubility decreases by a factor of 20 as the metal solidifies. If the cooling rate is too fast, the hydrogen gas can remain in the metal as porosity. This can happen when hydrogen-containing compounds contaminate the filler wire or work surface, or if the aluminum water has a high gas content. Shrinkage: Solidification shrinkage can also cause porosity in aluminum castings. Welding: Porosity in aluminum welds can be caused by dissolved hydrogen in the weld metal, air or bubbles from the welding process, filler or filler wire, or environmental welding influences. For example, using an improper gun angle, such as a drag angle or 90-degree angle, can also cause porosity
@matthewpolishing7294
@matthewpolishing7294 2 жыл бұрын
Evan I used a rotary with a thousand grit and da thousand grit I found it works but definitely takes way longer to cut out 600 is definitely the sweet spot I rotary a tank but I found the higher you go past 600 it harder for the buff to cut
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
So many ways to polish. This is the best part. No right or wrong ways. If it shines its right... Thank you for watching and supporting.
@SteveW79-2K
@SteveW79-2K 2 жыл бұрын
Whish I would've watched this before I bought all my sanding discs. I just bought up to 1500 grit for some wheels I'm going to be working on. Live and learn I guess lol. I will be redoing some pieces of trim for my Bronco though, I took that to 3000 by hand and didn't think the shine and reflection are what it could be
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Hope it worked well for you. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
@Jonasguidry22
@Jonasguidry22 2 жыл бұрын
Ive had success with wet sanding for 1000+ grit and results were amazing...didnt need to polish hardly.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching and commenting.
@astronut3830
@astronut3830 Жыл бұрын
interesting thanks a lot!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@casiokids91
@casiokids91 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info just bought a new set of rims love the design hate the color so plan on stripping paint and will sand them. Since they’re a brand new wheels would I still work my way up to 400 grit or can I start at 400?? Thanks for any info!
@maciekkubiak8113
@maciekkubiak8113 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I hope you for this video helpful and I appreciate you taking time to comment.
@caseysconcepts2012
@caseysconcepts2012 Жыл бұрын
Ahh...I see that yellow Kokeur tripoli in the background... my favorite stuff.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking time to comment!
@maxjohnson1758
@maxjohnson1758 2 жыл бұрын
It would really be helpful to know what grade aluminum that tank is. I work with marine grade 5052 and I suspect different alloys may have different properties.
@danielwilson6408
@danielwilson6408 9 ай бұрын
🎉you tell them brother I normally only go to 600 or 800 myself and get pretty decent results self taught and driver made I love my guys they're awesome I hear all the time someone saying I take it to 1,500 plus I'm like dude it's pointless there's no need for it it might buffing a little easier or faster but not by much
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
@jaredwood1533
@jaredwood1533 2 жыл бұрын
How come you prefer sand paper with no holes? This was a great video by the way, always learning somethin new from you!
@19Clutch69
@19Clutch69 2 жыл бұрын
Good point...looks satin the higher grit
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching.
@freedomkeeper8003
@freedomkeeper8003 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info! Interesting about the pores closing up. I wonder if this happens on mild steel also. I am doing a deep dive into mirror finishes on mild steel for my plasma cut artwork. It makes a lot of sense to only go up to a certain grit and then start cutting (if that is the correct term - I'm just begining the journey-sort of). I saw one guy polish stainless going up to 5000 grit with Alumicut and it came out pretty sweet. I guess Alumicut is a light oil? I've actually used compound paste for paint, Mother's metal polish and green and black polishing sticks with a flat 4" fine grade wool disc. It works pretty well for buffing/polishing. I have even thought of trying a polishing paste with the sandpaper to speed up the process. Is that just crazy or will it work? One of my challenges is polishing a piece with multiple egdes, curves and points, which can grab (flat) sandpaper and trash it instantly. I just got a (short throw) DA orbital sander and am experimenting with it over various grits of sandpaper. I discovered if I use a 6" disc on a 5" pad, I can bend up the edges enough to clear 'obstacles'. Any advice would be appreciated.
@donpantolonez
@donpantolonez Жыл бұрын
After 400 ideally start to use some lubricant to remove particles between work piece and sandpaper also to cool the workpiece in some items (glass etc) Try using hard backed disc instead of foam backing, especially at lower grids to cut surface better. After you remove them, sandpaper shouldn’t catch that often. If you want to make chamfer to your work piece hard backed disc is a must for me. Foam pads gives me a round over instead of chamfer. Hope it helps.
@jasonblume2707
@jasonblume2707 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, im going through this now while trying to do some tool restorations, its like pseudo science that goes against what we learned when younger... Not understanding why the metal is not doing what we want gets frustrating... learning alot from vids. Thanks. Why no hole sandpaper?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
I love no hole sandpaper
@lorenknox76
@lorenknox76 2 жыл бұрын
Had polished a set of new tanks in the past up that high, they looked milky, now I know why. Thanks! I wonder if cleaning with acid between passes would make a difference?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
We tried that. Still didn't work any better.
@user-xp7jt5ri5z
@user-xp7jt5ri5z Ай бұрын
One reason people sand w finer grit is bc unless you have a powerful poliser it is harder, and takes much longer, to polish out the 600/800/1000 grit marks!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 14 күн бұрын
Even with a slow speed polisher and good products it is easy to remove 600 grit sand scratches.
@jojiran
@jojiran Жыл бұрын
Very interesting experiment and I have a few theories: 1. The hardness of the metal/alloy matters - as we see in the video it works very well for aluminium but going higher in Stainless Steel helps a lot 2. I feel the grit used (rouge) works well for 600 but having a finer grit may have worked for 1000 and above . From a personal experience products like gords work well in clearing the haze 3.For this system I feel that 600 + rouge on airway buff works very well as demonstrated. Will a DA with Pad work better for 1000+ based on the grain direction?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Appreciate you watching and commenting.
@SEMPER-FI-777
@SEMPER-FI-777 Ай бұрын
Just found ur channel.....👍 Can I apply this video towards cleaning my aluminum rims off my Dually! Other than polishing in the military.....I have never polished a rim in my life.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 14 күн бұрын
As long as the rim isn't clear or plastic coated yes you can
@louiesalta5114
@louiesalta5114 Жыл бұрын
What a contrasting result in polishing clear coats. When u sand 2000 or 3000 the clear is polished easier and shine at highest level!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@gremlin1396
@gremlin1396 2 жыл бұрын
Also noticed as soon as he hits right around the 1000 mark the buffer tries to launch upward you can see the buffer move upward.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
It just soaks up the rouge... Real grabby stuff.
@jordantschetter1151
@jordantschetter1151 Жыл бұрын
So what about for stainless..does that apply to stainless to?
@reecehandley4662
@reecehandley4662 Жыл бұрын
Would the same still apply if you are polishing by hand after sanding with a da?
@hanly2
@hanly2 Жыл бұрын
Damn i think this might solve my problem. Ive been sanding up to 2000 and getting lots of haze. Is it possible to sand with these higher grits and go straight to yellow/green?
@holdensc400daddys
@holdensc400daddys 2 жыл бұрын
G'day Evan, as a guy down under, (so sadly, can't take one of your classes,) is there anyway you can show the pores? Love all your teaching, inspiring and educational. Would also love to know if using a slower speed buffer, say the 3000rpm, would the results be better or worse than this? Cheers.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I found with slower speed it was even worse. Next time I meet with my metallurgist I will see if he is ok with me filming and showing the pores of the aluminum. Thanks for watching.
@holdensc400daddys
@holdensc400daddys 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing that would be amazing. Love your work mate, (side note, just ordered some time to shine products from your Australian distributor, can't wait to try it out!)
@thelandofmisteroz
@thelandofmisteroz 11 ай бұрын
Wow!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@brucewestern6027
@brucewestern6027 4 ай бұрын
It's crazy how much you can see that RPM dropping down as soon as it hits 1000 thing starts bogging down
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Ай бұрын
Agreed. This was a pretty cool experiment to do. Thanks for watching.
@stephenwhite5444
@stephenwhite5444 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info! So hey if someone has to hand polish, can you hand polish out 600 or 800grit within a reasonable amount of time or is that pretty much impossible?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Ай бұрын
You can with our Luhmi hand polish followed by the Time2Shine aluminum polish.
@paulamyers745
@paulamyers745 Жыл бұрын
Would this apply to sanding brass also?
@dummkompf
@dummkompf 6 ай бұрын
what if you're trying to remove scratches from glass? how fine would you sand up to before a final polish with cerium oxide?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 6 ай бұрын
I'm definitely no expert on glass. I wouldn't know where to begin. Sorry I can't help in this area. I know my metals but glass is outside of my scope. Thank you for the comment though.
@phillipjividen230
@phillipjividen230 Жыл бұрын
Would this same process work on brass?
@YourTioTravels
@YourTioTravels Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts when It comes to sanding and buffing painted surfaces or clear coat that has orange peel?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
I personally don't do paint. So I don't really have any kind of opinion on that matter. Sorry bud.
@coryschuler9570
@coryschuler9570 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there, I'm currently polishing an airstream and have done an initial cut with Brown tripoli and a red airway wheel using the Dewalt variable speed polisher. I then cleaned the surface with mineral spirits and changed to a coloring wheel and moved to a green moss compound, I noticed from certain angles and lighting, a brown haze develop after step 2. Is this something you've experienced before? and what can I do about this? ( I did not have to sand it)
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Brown haze traditionally to me means burns but I’d need to see it.
@780aristo6
@780aristo6 2 жыл бұрын
Does this theory work the same for sanding and polishing by hand? I’m trying to fix my wheels right now. I started wetsanding from 800 up to 3000 and polishing with sinister devils brew. And so far it’s coming out absolutely perfect
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
By hand is completely different. But I can hand polish 600.
@bignick703
@bignick703 Жыл бұрын
Can you do polishing after sandblasting? I’m working on an aluminum boat so I don’t have a ton of material to work with
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
I personally won't polish anything sand blasted. Sandblasting makes a mess of aluminum..But just my opinion..
@JohnGray-ob2mk
@JohnGray-ob2mk Жыл бұрын
WoW… this video saved me a lot of unnecessary work. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@redbaron2448
@redbaron2448 Жыл бұрын
Would this method work on motorcycle frames, metal or aluminum ,stop at 600 grit or go all the way to 2000 grit? Thanks
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
I stop at 400 or 600 on everything aluminum and stainless. Great question.
@scotimotti
@scotimotti 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the info...I was about to waste a bunch of time and money.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 11 ай бұрын
Happy to help! Thanks for watching.
@dannybailes3948
@dannybailes3948 Ай бұрын
I heard from another channel that depending on paint you use for example can spray paint a higher sand grit in needed for paint adhears better? Is this the case?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 14 күн бұрын
I'm sorry we don't do anything with paint. We only polish metal. We sand to polish not to paint. Sorry I have zero info in that department.
@alexbailey5753
@alexbailey5753 4 ай бұрын
Do compound bars have a life span?
@Notsoloompy
@Notsoloompy Жыл бұрын
Hello. Which grit should i use after first coat of paint and before second coat on metal grill? 400 or 600
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
No idea. We don't do paint. We just polish metal.
@Astrosisphere
@Astrosisphere Жыл бұрын
It looks like you weren't washing off the residue of the previous sand paper before moving onto the next - so by the time you reach 3000 all you've done is compound the residue of all the previous sanding into the surface - hence it's smooth but not shiny. I was surprised that you were dry sanding from 400 up anyway - I've seen people sanding with water or oil from 400 up with some great results but never dry - was there a reason for doing it dry?
@september2126
@september2126 10 ай бұрын
i think after sand to 3000 it must polish with white compound, green compound then red compound, [red compound is for jewelry things] after that just wipe it with microfiber the result really like a mirror, average liquid compound only works at 400-800,
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@kennylaporte4382
@kennylaporte4382 2 жыл бұрын
Could you resand the 1000 with 400 then cut? Would that reverse the problem of clarity?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
We tried that. The 3,000 wrecked the pores. I ended up sanding it down to 180 then back up to 600 to make it polishable again.Thanks for watching.
@Jason_Family_Man
@Jason_Family_Man 5 ай бұрын
WILD....... GOOD TO KNOW
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@94muddertrucker
@94muddertrucker 2 жыл бұрын
What about wet Sanding instead? And looks like 800 worked best after the first cut.
@jamessharp9790
@jamessharp9790 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know sanding past 400 to polish aluminum was a thing. I’ve switched to plastic refinishing for past decade or more though. Plastic doesn’t sand as well as aluminum and typically must go to a 800 machine to buff it but some people want to go to 3000 or so. Anything over 1200-1500 doesn’t help .
@Larry5696
@Larry5696 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best place to purchase polishing supplies?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 2 жыл бұрын
Goshineon.Com I sell what I use.
@casiokids91
@casiokids91 3 ай бұрын
wouldn’t you be using a different compound for the higher grit though?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 14 күн бұрын
You can but the results will still be the same. The pores close up too much to allow any compound in.
@pbpyro5546
@pbpyro5546 11 ай бұрын
Is this for aluminum and steel? Or is this process the same with steel
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 9 ай бұрын
I do the same process on both. But that is just me. To each their own way. But this is my way. Thanks for watching.
@crveniautic
@crveniautic 2 жыл бұрын
Where to order those buffing wheels and compound?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
goshineon.com
@brettsanford169
@brettsanford169 Жыл бұрын
Can you sand then hand polish it and it look good?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Жыл бұрын
If you are wanting to do this we have a product called LUHMI that allows to you hand polish out 600 grit. It is amazing. You can get it at www.goshineon.com
@Arizona9001
@Arizona9001 8 ай бұрын
Amazin
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Appreciate you watching
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