Has Murder canonically defeated the player? Actually, never mind I could just look it up.

@@bearthebeast5917 player in canon couldn't defeat Murder!sans in Dusttale Player is stuck in an endless loop of dying There's two options, give up or reset Either way, sans wins Each battle with sans is different, sans doesn't follow the same pattern He's more skilled and more deadly His range of abilities technically increased He can imitate Other monsters attacks with bones, and learned Green Magic and Purple magic That's why he's Much more Unpredictable

​@@alibeknorbekov5963killer in Cannon has beat his human though by straight up surpassing their determination with his own plus Cannon dust has no determination only strong resolve and yes dust can mimic certain monsters attacks like undynes spears and asgores trident by modifying bones but where did you get this info that he can use green and purple magic cause I've never once heard or seen that in any analysis or research I've done And yes he does change his patterns each death and utilizes the traps and puzzles but killer has been with nightmare for a extremely long time since his lv is so high plus the ink sans feat is a little iffy but since he's able to basically fight error on a daily basis who can destroy aus that should still make him very difficult to put down and killer did that in a single punch meaning his physical strength is extremely high and he has fought color sans before to a draw

honestly its more like a Michael Myers immortality thing and also yes he is weaker than before but he can stand back up after a while. also he got a royal guard's magic eye to replace his stolen one

@@alibeknorbekov5963 magia verde?, yo no vi eso en el canon

Are we talking about canonical to fanon dust or canonical to canon dust/murder sans because canon dust would put up much more of a fight or even win.

@@Welcometoyourlocalchannel The canon Killer's LV is 999999. Dust simply doesn’t have enough HP = to survive at least one hit on himself.

@@This-never_be_end and you're forgetting that dust is a sans and is gifted in dodging attacks? Not to mention that LV can sometimes work differently in some aus. Killer has 99hp while dust has more hp but less LV

@@Welcometoyourlocalchannel So he got hits in the animation itself)

@@This-never_be_end yes but in canonical battle between dust and killer it would be closer then what you said. Also, was you talking about murder or fanon dust?

Yeh killer wins, not really a fair fight

Funnily enough, this fight is actually correct since canon killer is actually stronger than canon dust because of his higher LV and plus he defeated ink sans, also im sure he was trained enough to know how to dodge more from his chara

@@Player47333 His fight with ink honestly doesn’t count as canon ink is weak and featless. Otherwise he wouldn’t of gotten one punched by killer

​@@WrappedInBlack still the same ink who has to both fight and take hits from a universe destroyer on a daily basis

@@neoselkadoom1790in canon error and ink don’t know eachother they never met

Killer can low diff Dust brah

you mean fdy last breath? since revolver said he used the fdy version on that fanon version of vhs sans

@@Deflamed_Spherenope fantasy violin last breath not fdy

​@@Deflamed_Sphereit's from different channel, there is FVLB Vs VHS i recommend you check that

@@rahdianrizqicahyasaputra29 OH! THat video ah ok nvm

@@rahdianrizqicahyasaputra29 OH! its that video, nah no need to check it.

Novel Murder Sans is something else apparently

en un comic canon killer derrotó a ink , siendo sinceros la determinación de killer es más alta ,pero no cabe duda que ambos son fuertes

además el creador dijo que killer tiene bastante determinación ya que al absorber el alma de chara también absorbió la determinación ,además de que las grimas negras que salen de sus ojos no es más que determinación descompuesta por lo que su determinación a llegado a una capacidad máxima y al no haber espacio estas brotan de sus ojos