mabusestestament oh dear

Is this a premonition? Gemini Man hasn’t been released on Blu Ray yet but I’m sure the quote will be there.

oh lord... that's not saying much

You gotta love how that takes a lot of Ralph's credibilty as a film critic.

pro tip: you can watch movies at flixzone. I've been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.

J.D. Laney whaaaat. I noticed we never saw the mom, and I interpreted Scorsese did that intentionally because it showed how narcissistic Rupkin was given that we see this film from his point of view. Edit: But it is an interesting thing you pointed out. Will keep in mind on a second watch.

I always just took it as it was a joke but yeah, I suppose we never actually do see his mom... I now have a sadder perspective on the film lol.

Didn't think of that

Many scenes, his character was dreaming of himself being the "King" especially the ending 1) No one gets only 2yrs in jail for kidnapping. 2) Its 1982 - no internet, iphones, cable tv. Most only had 7 channels, so people would forget who he was after a month. 3) Even the cops said they would arrest whoever wrote his horrible jokes. 4)Just like many sitting in jail right now, he's a King in his own mind. Movie proves guys with huge egos are more dangerous than guys with low self esteem.

The King of Comedy is vastly superior to Joker. It isn't close in the slightest. Joker is pretty much garbage.

They're completely different movies.

Jack The Ripper Ralph is a marvel fanboy

DayTripper I’ve definitely been noticing that ever since the Endgame podcast where he was super defensive of the criticism

@@jw1714 Any valid point Adam made against the plot he'd just say "eh it's just dumb fun, but it's a 9/10 hell yeah great movie amazing, there's no other way they could have handled this movie because I'm not creative enough to imagine something else lol"

it's something called opinions. you might not have heard it before

I mean the movie follows jokers pov so it makes sense that Thomas Wayne was more of an asshole imo lol

Its actually funny they as a whole didn't catch this

Thomas Wayne is speaking facts 💯

Exactly. I find it hillarious that they pine over the flashback scenes of Arthur and Sophie not being neccesary because they got it the first time while not catching most everything else in the movie. It makes me glad that repeat viewing exists, Joker definitely improves once you see it a second time

"On the nose" ...because clowns have red noses.

I know that Joker video he was in was obviously a joke, but I actually want to see what a Joker movie would be like if Wiseau directed and starred in it.

'I'm the Joker baby' guy is clearly the best Joker.

@@HiddenGhul Tha Jokah Baby

Joker baby is better

I'm personally a fan of Heath Ledger

TIME FOR THE REMIX

Male Tears beautiful

Ahh that's not hot

Jamie Sansom I found a indirect Cool Cat reference.

@@murciadoxial8056 Daddy Derrick is releasing a box set

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Thank you Troll Face

Thanks dude

Thank

Replying to bring this comment furher up the chain.

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Antman and the Wasp was the worst Marvel movie, I hated it

@@darrellcovello7917 I personally loved it but I can see why a lot of people didn't get much out of it

@@darrellcovello7917 for me it's Captain M or Hulk

Darrell Covello there was no point to that movie being made at all

Ashbobsjunior Jesus Christ what a day, both movies are pretty much perfect. Have fun!

I just did that over the course of two days last Sunday and Saturday. Highly recommend. Best movie weekend ever.

Ya lucky bastard! Awesome mate!

Lucky. That sounds like the most perfect double feature ever.

I wish I was you, but I've been cucked by Cineplex

When watching the part when he goes into the fridge, my brother leaned over and jokingly asked if this was secretely the origin story for Mr. Freeze.

@@yggdrasil3 The part where he utters "huneeee" for the first time gives me chills

adum was kinda wrong about that. i swear he already meets the waynes prior to that scene?

Nick XL except he didn’t. He came off as an pretentious try hard critique and ended up being a whiny brat throwing a tantrum for the movie with little to no basis.

Danny Roqs do you joker fans ever shut up? why do you get so offended over people not liking the movie? stop acting like if you dont consider it a masterpiece your opinion isn’t valid or something

Based and Bartpilled

you just have a biased

Well done

Your art work is really sick bro keep up the good work

Congratulations

So good

Haha “cool feeling”

Christian Tompkins that’s really not a criticism. in that case, they might as well rate Reservoir Dogs the same because Quentin Tarantino basically nicks off of Stanley Kubrick’s The Killing. Same thing with True Romance which is basically his own version of Terrence Malick’s Badlands, even going as far as to copying the music from the latter. And then we might as well add Brian de Palma in that list since Dressed to Kill was essentially Psycho in his own retelling. Honestly, I felt the boys misinterpreted the movie a little too much and didn’t pay attention close enough. And so did you.

Christian Tompkins that’s exactly what I’m trying to convey. There’s the little difference but in the wider view, it’s almost a strikingly similar approach of plot.

Christian Tompkins I can accept that take of criticism

Is “burning oneself in front of a police station” the sort of thing that happens thousands of times a year? Homicides in NYC were incredibly common at that time, and this just seemed to be random death, not a purposeful protest killing with a message attached.

@Christian Tompkins The rich vs the poor story didn't start in the 80's. It was already more than 100 years old by then and it was still timeless, as long as the disparity between the rich and poor is a reality it will still be mined for more stories in the future.

THROW HIM OFF THE PODCAST!

Yeah Joker is nowhere near as ground-breaking

My dad showering Will Smith vs evil Will Smith is clearly the better synopsis

Bruh

Hunter Fredrickson well he’s always been a marvel fanboy

Ronnie James Deodorant I thought exactly that. Just surprised by their lack of attention to this movie

I disagree. He murdered the three guys on the subway before these revelations. It is also implied he enjoyed it and was sexually aroused by it, again, before all of these revelations. He felt no remorse (but I get it, they were beating him up). I feel like if he snapped and killed them after the plot points you mentioned, it would be a bit better developed. It felt really out of order to me at least.

@@mattofalltrades Keep in mind Arthur's already a man who's suffered repetitive pyshoclogical and physical abuse from his multiple past dads and even his mom, with a socially debilitating condition all his life. Combine that with his currently already sucky lot in life, being cornered with thugs beating him up after already having it done to him prior, I can absolutely imagine him snapping and firing a gun on them before reveling in the release and individual like him would get from it. I just saw it as a major step in his fall. He's now already committed murder in his own twisted form of self defense, so later on he views it as something he can use to lash out fully and intentionally.

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero I think you're the only person in the KZfaq comments that actually used solid reasoning and grammar to rebuttal an opposing opinion, like damn.

@@mattofalltrades I know it's fucking mind blowing these days lol

Thank you. Was looking for this.

Please dont spoil

@@jesusangulo2119 Sorry! Didn't consider it a spoiler having seen it and thought it'd better people's experience watching it because wondering did take my mind off the film a bit. I've edited the comment to make it more vague!

how the fuck did you comment 3 days ago

God now I know there are fucking birds in the film. Great, my experience won't be the fucking same now

@@Lovicide took several reads, but I think I get it, the birds are real in the real world, they aren't CGI or puppets. The "don't spoil" comment was probably assuming that it was in the film's context, IE, are they imaginary

Me too! Though After Hours is nipping at its heels. I haven't finished it yet.

Vs Kevin Conroy hand-drawn animated Batman Like Roger Rabbit or Space Jam.

Vs Adam West Batman. We all know who would win.

PLEASE!!!!!

@@charlescalthrop2535 vs George Clooney batman

It might as well be. There isn't much I like about that movie.

Early in the movie were shown that there’s been a garbage strike thats why there’s garbage piles 10 feet high so there was already tension between government and the people of Gotham. The murders aren’t what kicked off the riots, it was Wayne calling the lower class of Gotham clowns because a guy with clown make up killed 3 wealthy wayne employees.

He changed it to a 6 actually

@KcaJBrown nah but just because they're similar or inspired it doesn't retract from the movie for me

Flaccid.mp3 Like in that case, they might as well rate Reservoir Dogs the same because Quentin Tarantino basically nicks off of Stanley Kubrick’s The Killing. Same thing with True Romance which is basically his own version of Terrence Malick’s Badlands, even going as far as to copying the music from the latter. And then we might as well add Brian de Palma in that list since Dressed to Kill was essentially Psycho in his own retelling. Honestly, I felt the boys misinterpreted the movie a little too much and didn’t pay attention close enough.

Danny Roqs bro have you even seen the killing? They almost have no thing in common

Henrix Beatz I own The killing and Reservoir Dogs and yes they bear a lot in common. Quentin Tarantino himself went as far as to say once “...I wanted MY own Killing”. He can’t be anymore transparent than that.

Also, y’know, psychotic🙃 Also I agree, his stuff was funny. Very late-night.

they mention Rodney Dangerfield at the beginning as one of the good comics and I'd say it's for sure on par with Rodney's material

If that's imaginary in his mind he's imagining Thomas Wayne getting fucked up. Not the origin of his arch nemesis

They mainly talked about the media fiasco, memes I guess, and the fact that a Scorcese film was more subtle...

Gazebo Luecke that’s the thing though: I feel like they had some unfair pokes of criticism for this film. They were complaining about the movie being derivative to Kings of Comedy or Taxi Driver, yet they were saying it wasn’t subtle enough. So do you want it to be original or do you want it to be a Martin Scorsese-esque movie? I don’t think that Phillips was intentionally trying to make a Scorsese movie but merely make a few influences along with a DC villain and make his own twisted interpretation... and I felt that was pretty successful.

The combination of it being a DC movie and the media garbage has soured the whole thing kinda unfairly. Adum even asking about if people with mental illness should see it or not was pretty ridiculous. Just like Alex, I found the meming of Joker to be annoying and confusing, so I just ignored it, but Alex just chooses to meme it himself, cause apparently that one line is super funny? Honestly this whole conversation just kinda irritated me. I watched the movie and it was pretty good, not perfect but above average, but a lot of critics I follow almost seem against the movie itself or embarrassed to like it. The recent JAR podcast about was kinda aweful for this reason. Alex all but refused to talk about Joker at all after five minutes as if it's another cookie-cutter super hero schlock blockbuster, when it's pretty much the exact opposite. It's like he saw the trailer and the twitter memes and simultaneously forgot that the Jokers best scenes from the Nolan movies where the ones without Batman or any other major characters in them. All and all, I'm not sure how well the critical reception of this movie will age even five years from now when we're back to giant blue lasers firing into space. Seems like a good movie fell into our laps and we're brushing it off like a spider.

Gazebo Luecke how truthful. Chillingly sad too.

I usually agree with Ralph and Adum individually and even when I don't I can at least find common ground somewhere, but this just feels more reactionary to the media coverage than I would have found tasteful, unfortunately.

I mean, people probably laughed during the scene where he said "Society" due to the whole "We live in a society" meme.

Stevey Strikes Again "Typo Intended" I’ll admit, right after he killed his coworker and the very short man can’t reach the latch and has to ask Joker to do it cracked me up

@@acdenton5726 I agree with everything OP said *but* I did accidentally miss Murray getting shot because I fist bumped my friend when he said the word lol

No, Captain America: The Winter Soldier was, is, and always be the closest we'll get to a true Metal Gear Solid movie

I'm so glad i wasnt the only one thinking cap america 2 and gemini man looked like metal gear

*B R O T H E R*

"Will" get?

If you think the murders caused the uprising at all you need to watch it again. They were largely irrelevant.

thelocust619 it was more like the media and politics that ran behind that incident that fueled it into an uprising. Remember, Joker said “... do I look like the kind of guy who could lead a revolution?” He only utilized self defense and it became more than that...

@@thelocust619 that's my point that it wasn't because of the murder it was how the murder was covered and talked about and how tomas wayne was talking about the lower class calling them clowns that made them use clowns as a symbol of their uprising

@@tytsty5716 That and the garbage strike showed that the unrest had already escalated to the point that citizens were already taking action. If anything, Arthur's greatest contribution was getting chased by the detectives. When you get cops bullying pissed off, protesting citizens living in filth with no income while getting belittled by the people claiming to help them...you get a riot. The Joker is just bumbling through this mess like some kinda evil nega-Forest Gump, just sorta showing up to get his picture taken in the background of a larger event.

CONCHITA how? IT 2 is terrible and bland

@@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE lmao he thought it was funny and that the characters are what made it interesting

CONCHITA that’s the problem, it’s supposed to be a scary movie but it’s not.

@@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE It doesn't take itself seriously and overrall became a mess, also very basic structure (First act, second act, third act) and repetitive

@@balabanasireti I actually agree. Guilty pleasures should be rated fairly, no matter how much they enjoyed them themselves. Film reviews exist to display your opinion of the quality and purpose of the movie and tell others what they should look for or if it is worth it. Rating Aquaman 5 out of 5 stars does not help.

The movie didn't even need to be in the DC universe, we already saw the wayne's die like 3 years ago in BVS

@@SuperGamerxl I still really liked it. The script needed to be worked on better.

Tbh I think I would have enjoyed if there wasn't a meeting with Bruce Wayne or if it showed his parents being shot from the view of their shadows without showing anyone go into the alley after them. At the same time they didn't even realize the guy with Bruce was Alfred, which I'd say was subtle, but then whined not knowing if it was him or not then dismissed it. But Sardonicast are the same people to complain about solo Marvel / DC-related stuff not being linked to a bigger universe.

Tbh I don't really understand the point of "if you removed all the stuff to do with batman, this wouldn't be a batman movie" type criticism. Wayne is clearly seen as someone Joker can envy and focus his (in his mind) justified sense of rage upon. The Waynes are in that way integral to the plot. You could make it someone else and it would have less atachment to Batman, but by the same token you could make Batman a vigilante in Nolans trilogy and drop the costume and it wouldn't be a Batman movie. I mean, surely we want our comic book movies to function as independent stories, rather than solely relying on the established characters to draw us in.

That's the thing. They are criticizing something that isn't even brought up that much in the movie. It's not like the wayne family is just a throw away line to connect the universe, Thomas is a major piece of the plot and they just dismiss it like Todd just put the wayne family to make people who like batman watch the movie. Everything in the movie works even if you don't know who the wayne family is.

Examples?

Tostitos199 Ralph laughs at everything

Wha- seriously!?!? Holy crap I haven't been more excited since they got The Stucc or the best teeth in the game on

😅

Who hasn't seen taxi driver though?

@@anthonymartensen3164 My big fat pussy

Enforcer Especially these three. I think 90% of the time they are awesome, but they totally judged this movie in an unfair manner. Most of the shit they said was invalid.

@@MrCholoPants3415 hahaha your edgy humor is amazing

That didn't cause honkong protest at all.

@@Ravi-xf8dw And the murders didn't cause the Gotham protest, what's your point?

Rodney King in LA, Mark Duggan in London....It's very strange to hear multiple critics saying the same thing about how the protests and riots seemed very sudden and unrealistic to them when in reality we have seen the same thing happen over and over in the real world, and Joker makes it very clear with its world-building (the garbage strike, the jaded social workers) that this Gotham was just waiting for something to light its fuse.

Even then you could argue one murder kicked off world war 1

👽 inevitable vegan future 👽 Rodney King getting beaten nor Mark Duggan getting killed weren’t the reasons that the riots happened. It was the jury’s verdict that found the police not guilty that set people off.

Sounds like the Nostalgia Critic's review of The Wall

I don’t like them either, to me personally, they just feel soulless and shitted out by a corrupted company

a shooting in the USA, so unexpected !!!

@@NanashiSaru there wasn't one, but there was a stabbing at "Frozen II"

No they're referring to the movie, Jared Leto is clearly older than Robert De Niro

matter of doing it well pal

matter of doing it well pal, when in your movie the social commentary consists of taking rich smug brokers and make drunk wanna be rapists that beat up the main character and that's the foundation for the most relevant plotline, that's the kind of exxageration you don't praise

When you compare Martin Scorsese an iconic director to the director of hangover, maybe you shouldn’t be watching sardonicast.

Dr. strange You say that like Scorsese himself didn’t pitch the idea with Philips. Everyone starts somewhere. Also isn’t hangover one of the most successful comedy trilogy’s ever...

@Liam Berentschot-Cooke my connection sucks

The point that Adum said about Bruce Wayne’s origin made literally no sense.

That question about why the subway murders would have an impact....... Jesus Christ! How dumb are you guys?! That’s it, I’m stopping this video.

Hopingover Leavesinfall I do agree it seems like they went into the movie just to go and didn't pay attention.

I normally agree with these guys but they seemed way too nitpicky. I get so annoyed when reviewers constantly compare this movie with Taxi Driver and King Of Comedy instead of looking at the film itself. I was genuinely surprised by their attitude towards this movie.

@@caprisun6552 I disagree about them being too nitpicky. I will say that Alex seems to have a hard time getting around his negative opinion on the general concept of a film, between this, Solo and Venom.

Also, I don’t think that the secretary actually listened to his tape because of how vague her points were for him. Plus what we heard of the recording he made, he sounds like a creepy stalker

Melancholic Spook Oh man that’s spooky~