the fact that almost always the pack trailers feel more exciting/interesting than pack itself says it all

I'll never hate you, Satch. Your brutal honesty is truly appreciated. Thanks for all your hard work. Edit: just wanted to add that in my game the Horse Ranch world does have snow... lots and lots of snow.

I love growing together. But i also absolutely agree with your comments. Being honest all the packs can be described as poorly executed or not going far enough

It would be fun to have more extreme weather like tornadoes and hurricanes in seasons.

12:40 shockingly for rent and college living work really well together. Way more fun to have them living off campus in a big multi unit building

Satch always making sure to remind us he is a top never bottom period😂

Satch said "I don't like/care that much anymore" so many times, but isn't it normal though? To get tired of things that you've seen a hundred of times?

In the horse ranch world does snow. I'm playing a challenge there and it gets wild. It's also extremely windy and stormy. I think Not all the worlds should snow. If they create a Sims 4 world having Buenos Aires city, It shouldn't snow, as it doesn't here. Gets cold, but not snowy. If it snows it's like a whole weird event. For me that's OK.

Need it: (get to work + mods), cottage living, for rent (very broken, hates gameplay, but multiple households per lot is worth it), Like it: get to work, city living, Ok: Get together, seasons, (get famous + mods), discover uni, Bad: cats & dogs, get famous, eco lifestyle, Horrendous: island living; snowy escape, highschool years, growing together (he doesn't regret getting it, just basic), horse ranch,

I'm in love with City Living!! Mind you, I don't have many packs, other than kits. The flea market is my favorite, plus the other events are very engaging. I also like the challenges of each apartment.

“The gardening overhaul that came with Seasons doesn’t work very well because gardening is broken in the Sims 4…” I’ve got news for you - it’s not broken in Sims 4, it’s broken in Seasons. Same way MWS breaks weddings. Take Seasons out and while gardening is not perfect - this is Sims 4 after all - it’s completely functional. It’s Seasons that breaks it. 😂

I partially agree with your list. I am not getting For Rent even if it was free because of the bugs. Growing Together seems like a waste of money, and I never play infants - I age up babies to toddlers. I want Cottage Living but don't want to give EA any more money.

Satch always puts what I'm feeling into words. I will lose interest and not understand fully until I watch a video and go, oh yea that makes sense. You have to put in so much work to make it interesting

Cats and Dogs is TERRIBLE. Not being "Pets" is already irritating, I would love smaller pets too, but they dont even have dog houses? Wtf is that about?? The build/buy mode nautical theme is fine, but everything else is terrible. And I hate how we cant even see the pets needs. Is that just me? I cant see their needs or how old they are or personality and skills. Sims 2 Pets was lacking too (in sims1 you could have iguanas, turtles, different kinds of birds), but they had so much more depth and they even had memories and could have jobs. And you could feed the fish and clean their tanks, now they are just decorations, as if fish are not living creatures. Fish deserve rights too

Get to Work live careers need a refresh. The Doctor/Medical need it the most, then, the detective one. Cats & Dogs with a mod that allows them to appear everywhere is good to make the world more lively and realistic. Then, there is another mod that allows you to actually select and control them. MUST HAVE mods is you have the pack. Get together. If you complete the International Celebrity aspiration and get the Unforgettable trait, any book, application, game and music that you publish will continus paying for MUCH longer. Island Living : Pro : Gorgeous world, the volcanic activity lot challenge and nice build items. Con : EVERYTHING else. Discover University DEMANDS that you play on long life span if you intent on getting a degree. High School Years attending classes is actually a rabbit hole activity badly disguised as an active activity. Yes, it's on my permanent DO NOT BUY list. Growing Together tree house : 9 times out of 10 your Sims can't even use it.

I feel like people often defend the sims 4 packs, saying they are more in-depth. But in my opinion, it still feels more shallow than other sims games, even when you have all the packs. Yes, the systems are more expanded, but it's the same repetitive gameplay that you as a player have to repeat every single playthrough. For example, unlocking the vampire skill tree. Im fine with less complicated systems included in one single pack.

I'm usually a Sims 4 apologist, but I agree with your critiques. The only pack I disagreed with was Eco Lifestyle. I'm surprised it's not in the bottom tier. While I love the gameplay (besides Maxis should have put a neighbourhood clean-up system akin to Island Living) and build/buy, NAPs were poorly implemented and broke the gameplay. Also, there is no way to turn off NAPs completely unless you prevent townies from voting, which ruins the point of NAPs.

I’ve been waiting for someone to do one of these recently 😅

I will defend Discover University till I die! I get that the university experience is challenging and there is a learning curve into how the grades system but once you get the hang of it it really is a fun pack! I love the challenge that university adds to gameplay, especially doing a 4 unit/subject coursework requires a lot of work! It actually feels like a GAME. Then you have all the university experiences on offer - the club events, the social parties and the e-sports and soccer games. Then there are the clubs and societies themselves which add another layer of gameplay, which if you join can add another layer of difficulty in juggling coursework and socialibility. It feels REAL, it takes me back to my own uni days, and the CAS is really good too. I would say if you want to add a layer of difficulty to your gameplay and actually want a challenge of trying to juggle work, studies and a social life, then in terms of gameplay I will put Discover University in the NEED tier. I will die on that hill!

Satch uploaded a video 57 seconds ago...I've never been this early

get to work is my favorite. i love the detective career sm! and i love the aliens. i do wish they'd do a refresh though! sometimes the careers are buggy and i wish the aliens were expanded similarly to other occults.

I know this will never happen but I wish EA would let us exchange packs. I happily exchange several expansions for the newest stuff packs and a few kits. I love how honest you are since you’re helping save my money, I was considering buying the horse pack for the mini goats and wine making (to compliment cottage living), but since I don’t enjoy cats and dogs I’m going to skip it.

I’m so happy you did a review like this!! I just got back into PC Sims gaming and I’m looking forward to buying the right packs and not jumping into the rabbit hole of buying everything. This helped a lot.

I finally got cottage living. Absolutely love it

perfect info, just found your channel and loving your content

I wish I had found your channel before I went on a spree buying Sims packs. I never even play it anymore. 😢 I'm grateful for your honesty.

For rent doesn't deserve to be on the top category when it can still cause corrupted saves (according to simmers on the official forum). Growing together on the other hand deserves a better score. It does feel like a base game update but it adds a lot of small details (family reunion, relatives staying over, mid life crisis, milestones, social compatibility...) that form a nice addition if you put everything together. Locking changing tables behind a paywall seems odd. I hope they patch that into base game one day. Personally I also really like island living and snowy escape. I love visiting the different worlds but there is little to do. These two packs combined would have been a great vacation pack.

I genuinely love the honesty. You have saved my wallet.

Fun fact I only brought growing together for the changing table to later find out I could have just gotten a mod for a base game-changing table

I love your honesty❤😊 cos I do agree with almost every rating.

I agree with most of these! I don't regret getting Snowy Escape because I LOVE the build items (as a Japanese person they're perfect and make the homes I build really feel like home). However, there's not a whole lot of activities you get, and the hiking feature is literally just walking, like Satch said. Get Famous was fun, but it got SO annoying being followed everywhere, having Sims stalk you at your house, etc... Discover University was also frustrating at times. My Sim got put on probation despite going to all lectures and doing all hw/assignments. I'm looking into getting Cottage Living and City Living OR For Rent next. Based on this video, I'm thinking Cottage Living first!

I love how honest you are😂

19:55 YAY OMG!!!! I LOVE FOR RENT!! It makes other packs quiver in fear oml. Having multiple people in a house without needing them to be in the same family can happen! It's so awesome!

I've been playing sims since the first grade, I'm nearing 30 now. This is probably the best ranking I've seen in a while. Thanks dude x

What mods do you reccomend for playing with Get to Work and Discover University?

Isn't that just the general pattern of The Sims 4, "poorly implemented"? I love the ideas of a lot of the packs, but they are never as good as they COULD be. I wish we knew what happens behind closed doors, but most of us can come to a general conclusion as to why so many things are stripped down. Once again, Satch making me defend Island Living. 😅 It's one EP I'll give a pass for because it really does have so many hidden gems like off-the-grid living, perfect environment for rags to riches, microbiology career, fishing and gardening boosts, etc. Aside from doing mermaids dirty, Island Living is a pretty great pack, not to mention one of the most beautiful worlds in the game and I'm not even a beach girlie. 🌴

I own 3 expansion packs so far (Get Together, Discover University, High School Years), but there aren't that many out of the others that tickle my fancy. Seasons for sure, maybe Get to Work, maybe City and Cottage Living, but outside of those there isn't a whole lot left on the expansion pack side of things that draw my interest. Maybe I'll start saving up for a few kits or wait for the large sales on game packs (as large as it'll get for game packs at least) than buy some of these expansion packs.

I really still feel get together is underrated BUT it is better with mc command mod because you can up the number of club members - I have it at 20 for 'youth party goers' when my sims go to a nightclub it looks like one. Also you can increase the number of clubs the sims can be in. Clubs are so helpful for so many things - getting family members together that live across households without the restraints of an 'event'. Also good for careers like yoga instructor. It's even cross pack compatible. Of course some of the packs have failures like no horse-riding together but that's a failure on horse ranch's behalf.

"A lot of the newer worlds are suspiciously hot." Wow EA is making super realistic content for once!

I use these videos to fall asleep. I’m off 😴

My absolute favourite: Cottage Living. Packs that are important for MY gameplay and which I like: Seasons (essential, should be base game), City Living, Get together, Eco lifestyle, growing together (should be base game too) I don't care: Snowy escape, cats and dogs, Highschool Years (like the idea, don't like how it came out) Bad: Discover University Horrendous: Horse Ranch, For Rent, Island Living

I use mods that allow you to control every sim (cats, dogs and horses included) whether or not they are in the active household.

satch, as always, is spitting nothing but facts

i dont hate, i love you dear.❤

I'm not complaining about any of your opinions, whether or not I agree with your decisions, they're well thought out. The one thing I want to disagree with is about Cats and Dogs - I've had no problems with glitches with it, making it one of the few packs I've had no problems with. And I love the world, and I love being able to have a dog in my household. But I really haven't had any glitches with the pack or the vet career.

Hey Satch, I thought I would let you know that there is snow during the winter in Chestnut Ridge (Horse Ranch Expansion).

I actually agree with a lot of the stuff.You said I didn't even realize until you said it that like none of the other worlds are impacted by weather though I will say I played in santa clara and I have had snow.... As for your other feedback, I love growing together because of the system and because I do family gameplay a lot though I will say.I have to use mods to make any of them work.The only reason I got so many Sims.Four packs as because I used to get them in these deals where you'd get 3 for the price of one

with clubs: I never WANT to go out and do things because when you leave and come home, time has passed so you've missed hours of doing stuff with the rest of the family. Like I can see why its helpful for like kids making friends. But as adults they're basically only good for raising your own sims' skills lol (and using the Cooking group to make your family free food to last a few weeks). Like parties as a whole barely work, and get togethers are basically just small parties, which also kinda sorta don't work.

You don't need seasons honestly, never brought it and don't plan to

Honestly I really don't like seasons, I got it because it was on offer and I thought I liked it and other KZfaqrs all had seasons and I had some fun with the flower arrangements and holidays but after a while I find myself never putting in new holidays or using any of the CAS and b/b that came with the pack. As well as that the storms and blizzards lag my game so much it is unbearable and makes live mode hard to play.

Well..... I'm glad Cottage Living is the only pack I bought... And I bought it on sale. There are still features in CL that are broken, though.

in my opinion ,my only disagreement is high school years, it adds a better way of playing as a teen where you dont just go in a rabbit hole for school. plus, high school years has some of the best build/buy items. there is a mod to remove exams/prom every week aswel. this is not hate btw!!i love this channel 😭❤

I dont agree with you but mostly because I always play with mods so I dont know how vanilla game is 😂 I still enjoy hearing your opinion. Your vids are always entertaining.

City Living is honestly my favourite pack!

I’ve found with For Rent if you switch between a tenant and landlord, the landlord does get paid but the features like tennants picketing for better conditions is terrible. No matter what I try it always says my landlord has ignored the protests.

Satch I love you but you already ranked all packs a few months ago 😂

idgaf about horses but horse ranch has phenomenal build buy and that’s the only thing redeeming it for me. i feel like there was serious lack of rustic shabby decor that’s not super cottagecore-y (cottage living) or completely broken down (werewolves), and i use the build buy for almost every build i make (i hate modern builds lol). honestly one of the best build buys out of all the eps for me.

I feel like I'm thinking in your accent because I've been binging your videos since being sick.

Yes, yes, and yes. Great analysis.

Dont get me wrong, I dont have nor do I intend to *ever get* Seasons, but Ive seen snow in most of those worlds on youtube. Notably San Sequoia and Horse world

Can you please make a video with mods that makes the University gameplay more fun?

6:32 I think it's only logical for the Sims Team to not code winter season in Tomarang (for For Rent). Tomarang is based on Southeast Asia where there's no snow.

they wont make me hate you cause i agree most of your opinions!!!!

I’m pretty sure that it snows in San sequoia in my game unless I’m just losing it but I think it does

Can you share the mods you use for discover university?

Honestly none of these packs are worth their asking prices that’s why I buy them off of instant gaming or cdkeys where I get them 60-65% off so I won’t feel too much regret 😅 I just got growing together and cottage living for $30 together and don’t feel too bad. Saved myself $10 even on sale as most packs end up going only 50% off most sales.

I only want Horse Ranch for the winemaking and so I can use Basemental’s alcohol mod.

Yayy finally 2024 version!

I love you Satch ❤

Chestnut ridge does snow though

I sometimes forgot Satch isn't a bottom and need to remind myself of it constantly.

I LOVED sims 3 pets but omg sims 4 cats and dogs is so boringgggg and annoying

The mods make this game and that’s why I love the packs folks hate.

I haven't played HSY because I heard that the game won't populate your HS with townies from your current neighborhood. It just sends random generated townies and the pre-gen ones you get from the trailer. That sounds totally immersion breaking and turned me off from getting the pack. I'm not downloading a mod just to choose my classmates. TS4 is terrible at getting little things like this right. It's just always something with each of these packs.

About Cats and Dogs - i noticed my animals will hurry to greet my sim when they return home, and prefer to sleep near my sim even if they have a bed available. While others, such as a pet with the aloof trait, do not.

Ever since cottage living, the packs have become very buggy but it's alright cause I still love the game

Can u plz put the links 2 the get 2 work live mods

I’m here for the Sims 4 shade and random innuendo 👋

Most of the mid or below packs have pretty good worlds and sometimes to me that alone is worth it. Then again this is coming from someone who doesn’t have strangerville cuz I don’t want to deal with possessed sims. Also get to work note, don’t do the detective career if you use a lot of cc the career breaks. I got it for the mod that allows you to go with kids and teens to school but it hasn’t been updated in a while and it basically broke my game 😢.

Yes they are very very expensive. I got fired from my job and impulse bought all the packs I didn’t have including kits. The only stuff I don’t have are clothing kits, bust the dust, and journey to batuu 😀

Thank you so much! I was debating on which pack/world I should buy next… this helped 😂🔥

The resaon why i got for rent so i can build apartments and multiple house like you see in britain.

Thank you for considering us console players 😄🙏

the first 18 seconds of this soft voice and Im thinking "Satch you are TOO NICE please swear and do a lot of sexual jokes" 😂🤣

all the sims 4 packs didnt go far enought they all feel empty.

I hate the “compact” dishwasher. What was the point? Just give us more normal dishwashers!

Honestly, I only have some packs because they're a requirement for some of my favorite mods.

Satchie is my boo... dont be jealous.

Honestly, I mostly got Cottage Living because I’m a lesbian, and I think women would probably break up with me if I played a bunch of Sims but didn’t have it. But I honestly hadn’t even realized how much it impacted my gameplay until I hadn’t just started, but played it for a while. It really was so interesting in a way that I didn’t expect. Maybe I just liked that it added new challenges that weren’t just poor game design. Like, University is hard, but more like because it’s impossible to get to your classes half the time.

I almost always at least partly disagree with your rankings and yet there is no hate. I can just tell where we have diverging play styles. I COMPLETELY disagree on City Living. You must never play with penthouses or big two level apartments, some of which rival starter homes on other maps in size and scale. You seem to operate under the idea the appeal of City Living is starter cheap apartments when it’s not. City Living is the only map of its type that has a true big city backdrop built in and the only one that gives you the ability to have a penthouse suite overlooking a big city…if that’s the vibe for your Sim. No apartment I can build on any other map is gonna have that same vibe. So even with For Rent’s tools, there’s still something special about living in San Myshuno vs an apartment anywhere else, EA made or otherwise. And if you really want to you can live in a house in San Myshuno and never move out of the big city. Is it perfect, no, but if all you have is base game suburbia…San Myshuno hits different. Could it be better, for sure. But are you gonna get better in Sims 4, not really. As for Seasons….Winter literally sucks in Sims 4. Snow is like pretty for a day and during Christmas but between blizzards and rain my gameplay experience has been WORSE with Seasons, not better. For High School and University I really could care less about ever going to class with my Sim, but it would have been nice to have after-school and club/group activities related to University/High School be live/active. Its sad those weren’t implemented better. Like interactable football practice or even chess club would have been great. The rabbit holes are on the wrong things in both those packs.

im just getting back into the Sims and playing island living a LOT and there's almost nothing to do. the most annoying thing is how the world is honestly comparable to vampires/werewolves and yet the mermaids are literally nothing more than a sim with a fish tail, whereas vampires/werewolves/spellcasters have so much they can do. same goes for aliens tbh although get to work had enough content already to justify it.

I never played the sims 4, so correct me if I’m wrong. The thing that makes me dislike nearly all expansion packs is that it seems you can only really play with them in the world they come with. There are a few exceptions, like cats and dogs though.

As much as For Rent intrigued me with all the features you mentioned I just refuse to reward EA for foolishness like I’m not gonna buy a clearly broken pack which guts me 😭😭

hhaa i love cats and dogs only bcus im not allowed a pet irl... but then again its annoying thats its only cats and dogs like wehre are the rabbits, hamsters etc

The only reason I think seasons and growing together are a "need it" is because they should have been in the base game already. The base game is boring AF. I don't remember 1 and 2 being this boring at base game (never played 3). But no, seasons and growing together themselves are just too slim.

for me Snowy Escape and Island Living are just vacation worlds from previous Sims games and should stay as such. They shouldn't be made into separate expansion packs witch such little gameplay

After watching the whole video, I can get the point that it's not about how bad these packs themselves are, it's about how bad they are AS EXPANSION PACKS. Sure they all got some nice things here and there, but when it comes to ranking them as expansion packs, those things can't save them, I think.🤔

In real life not all place have snow.... There are lots of places/countries in the world where it never snows...

Shanice Shanice is a cow lol

i will forever tell any new simmer to get cottage living, get famous and city living!!