i like your set-up there, i got the same gun. the muzzle break is nice too. all in all great job

savage 1000 yard project. in detail Open box, clean, add ammo, shoot. project complete. nice rifle got to love the savage.

I just watched this video and saw your comment. I can explain it briefly-mil dots are actually means "milliradian dots". Each dot is 1/1000 of a radian which is a unit of measure that can be converted into degrees. 2pi radians=360 degrees. At 100 yards 1 mil dot is 3.6 inches. @ 700 yards 1 mil dot is 25.2 inches. (3.6inches*7)

Good vid. nice rifle... Im rocking the Savage 10 FCP MCMIllan....308... Keep shooting brother, stay accurate.

The metric system is a base 10 system. This makes the mathematical calculations involved with range adjustment exponentially easier. This, of course, means you need to start thinking of things in terms of meters and centimeters.

@anneuttara It is a zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50. The rings are TPS 1" Alloy Steel. These are the TSR low profile.

The mil-dot system was not first used by the military in scopes for rifles, but by artillerymen and submariners, both of whom need to calculate leads (aim-off angles) over long distances against relatively small targets which may be moving. Eventually, someone adapted that system for use by the individual marksman with a scoped rifle. If memory serves, it was the Marines back in the 1970s or 1980s, but could be mistaken... gotta go look that one up...

on the military arms channel,they were hitting a 16 inch gong at 1000 yards with a $600.00 Savage .308 and a $230.00 scope. you only need $1000.00 and a lot of skill. done

Every bullet type and gun will drop differently, due to different ballistics, muzzle velocity, and weight. The best way to know 100% without guessing is to progressively shoot out further and further, noting how much drop your gun has at varying distances until you get out to 600 yards.

It'll shoot straight. It can outshoot most people. I hit a 12" steel circle at 900m or 984 yards yesterday. Once is lucky, so I hit it twice in a row to be sure.

If you go the savage site, look at their Law Enforcement Series. They have an 10 FCP in a couple of different stocks. The extra "C" just means it has a removable magazine. They are a great gun by the way.

BLC-2 works get with 155 gr Noslers in my rig. 1K with a good spotter and technique.

im 13 and i wish i had one of those , i love guns and have been shooting since i was 9

nice rifle sweet music

Hi Mate, nice rifle. I'm wait for savage 12 BR to turn up this week. I got a Sightron series III 8-32x56 from the USA for a $1000 posted for it I hope it bloody shoots straight! cheers

There's no hard and fast generic answer to that question... you have to learn your scope, your rifle and your loads, and then systematically test everything at the range. Once you have an accurate zero on your scope for whatever distance you have dialed in, then you begin checking the hold-over/hold-under every 25 yards out to the limit of your range. You do that for each type of ammo you are using. If you change your load, scope, etc. - you need to do the process again.

ijust picked up the savage 12 FV and mounted an XLR element Chassis, what an improvement over the flimsy plastic stock, but I knew that going into it, nice gun

Love the stock

yeah it is a good rifle. im hitting 18x36 steel at 1100 yards no problem now.

You are right. It is very complicated. I am not seeing the advantage that mil dot has over moa. It seems the industry standard is built around moa with most scopes measuring 1/4" click @100 yd. I have a couple of Nikons that are 1/8" @100yd. I will continue to educate myself on the mil dot system. It seems that a fair amount of people use it. Although not many people can seem to explain by example why they prefer it.

its is but i think he was referring to a 6mm br,6mm rem,6mm ppc,6mm xc. the .243 is just known as a .243 90% of the time.

Nice rifle! I have a Savage 10 FCP-K, which is a little newer than yours. The stock is better, but it's still not a good tactical stock even though it's their "Law Enforcement" line. I like the trigger, but I don't care for the heavy bolt lift on the action. I'm going to fix that buy cutting down the spring and doing some polishing. I'll probably also run the B&C stock since that seems like a solid option, but I'll have to get it inlet by a smith, and I want the CDI bottom metal too.

In the middle of doing one of these right now.

5th - You need to understand MOA (Minute of Angle) This may take you a bit to get your head wrapped around the MOA concept. Once you do it is all to worth it. Example - If I were to take my 338 lapua & shoot 600 yds I with my current load I would have to remember to dope the scope 46.4 clicks or 11.6 MOA. Believe me counting 11.6 moa is not only faster but easier & your scope is already designed for moa counting. Hope this all helps.

@lowrider9367 I use both MIL and moa. One MIL equals 3.6 inches@100 yards and one 36 inches (one yard) at 1000 yards (MIL will also come up to one meter at 1000 meters) so 3.6 multiplied by 7 will be 25.2. Here's how it goes: 100yd-3.6" 200yd-7.2" 300yd-10.8" did I answer your question?

Dave G., regarding CDI - the makers of the bottom metal on the Savage 308 in the video, the company's full name is CDI Precision Gunworks, and they are out of Florida. They have a website, so check them out. You can either order a conversion kit and have it done where you live or send your rifle to them for modification. Their prices are reasonable. I love my Savage 10FCP but like dribeker - don't care for the stock mag that comes with it.

@NoWunUNO15 I did hit the 1000 yard target about 4 times. The 22 inch target was elevated and the mirage was so terrible that spotting the misses was impossible. As soon as the weather cools down i will go back out. Hard to shoot in 110* weather.

It almost to me seems like lots of people buy these types of reticles just because the military uses them. If you don't know your equipment your aimlessly throwing lead. Someday I would like to sit down with someone to learn hands on about MILDOT. My challenge is finding that person.

The sweet spot is 44 gr of varget with sierra 175 match kings. Seated .005 from the lands. Muzzle velocity is an average of 2725. Didnt get pressure signs until 46 gr at 2850 fps but accracy was starting to suffer. Drop charts are made up from JBM software. Muzzle brake puts it down to feel like a .223 bolt gun. Very little recoil.

nice set up

Several factors drove me away from the .338. i live in texas but in the city so there are little or no places i can shoot beyond 500 yards. It is unpractical for me to have a 2,000 yard rifle within the area i live in. Another factor is the cost of the .338 round. i can reload a premium .308 for 45 cents per round. The .338 would cost about $4 per round to reload. Also, this was my first long range rifle. My next will be a custom surgeon 300 win mag.

how to make a savage a 1k yard rifle step 1: take it out of the box Done!

Thanks for the reply and the information. I want to get a Savage one of these days; their "Accu-trigger" system is quite good. I ended up getting a Winchester Model 70 in .308, to go along with my Springfield M1903A3 as my other bolt rifle. The Model 70 will be my deer rifle. Far as LR rifle is concerned, I am still working on shorter ranges; I am nowhere near proficient enough to go out 1000 yards. I am learning to reload, though, which will increase my accuracy, I hope.

gun looks awesome. Also haven't heard downfall by trust company in I don't know how long. Thanks for reminding me!

I would have to assume so! So far I am able to range my targets out to 1800+ yards with my Leica. I have not applied myself to the mil dot system. I know quite a bit of long range shooters & they all are on the MOA system shooting out to 2000+ yards. So far none of them have offered any positive feedback when questioned about the MILDOT system. The guys who I know or stumble across using the mil dot system have no idea of how it works as they cannot answer any questions.

im getting a 15 moa base and i had the barrel on the remington 700 free floated. it doesnt have a bull barrel though.

I have the Savage model 10 plain Jane. Out of the box with the original stock it shoots dime size groups at 200 yards. The only thing I did was lighten the trigger to 2 pounds, and that made the difference. But I love your stock and some day I will get one...Great video, friend, Thanks....Canada.

the adjustment screw...i have since replaced the trigger with a rifle basix and is set to 2lbs.

@Sbarney37873 it does recoil a little, the brake reduced recoil by about 40-50%. It is one of the most effective brake i have used. I can see impact at 100 yards.

im persuing a savage project too.. going to build it from parts starting with an action, im thinking i might go .300WSM, but im not opposed to 300 weatherby magnum, .338 lapua, or even a simple .308 or 6.5 creedmor, but i have decided im going savage.. i really want that choate tactical stock

From what I understand, Eagle is no longer producing the cheek-pad, at least I could not find one, so I went with one from Tactical Works Inc. and love it, cost about $34, and it works wonderfully. I also went with a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5x14 for $264, waterproof, fog proof and shock proof, just need to get Butler Creek caps for it.

just thought Id ask because I have the fcp-k 308 (slightly) modded of course and the accutrigger adjustments are between two and five pounds. Thanks anyways..enjoy yours!

barrel is a 24 inch heavy barrel.

@prplehrt17 i believe just the standard size.

Great video. On my scope, 1 click equal a 1/4 MOA, with that said, if I'm zeroed at 100 yards and I want to shoot out to 600 yards how many clicks up do I need to go? Thanks for answering the question.

it would take me a whole page to explain. My suggestion is google it. there is a ton of info out there.

You're welcome...sorry for auto text grammar

i didn't install the bottom metal. I had it done by sending the stock to the company that makes the mag conversion. The detachable mag is a must have in my opinion.

I concur

It wouldnt be a fair comparison due to the fact that my rifle is not stock. i have not shot many rem but to be fair, any rifle can be modified to fit your type of shooting needs.

bell and carlson medalist. easy to find online.

Pratice,pratice,pratice.Great tunes!

it is called 1000 yard rifle project. the rifle build was the project.

Mildots are really an amazing concept, because you can actually use them to rangefind by guessing the height of your target and doing a simple equation. It's easier when the target is a man, because the average man is 1.7 meters tall, so you would just throw that number in the equation along with how tall they are in mils from your perspective then you get a range. I'ts more difficult when it's an animal or a vehicle or something.

dribeker, just want to thank you for the video yet again, as I just purchased a Savage 10FCP in part because of your example and hard work. I plan to accurize it in a manner similar to what you have done. Imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery, right? Let us know how your quest is coming along.

its called a monopod. made by accushot

Holy crap we have almost an Identical build- the only differences are; I went with the Bell and Carlson medalist a5 with the adjustable cheek rest and butt pad, I used a badger ordnance 20 moa rail and Rem 700 - 26 in barrel - The difference between the savage and rem is almost null lol. I am getting 1/4th moa groups with mine_ Absolutely love it - I chalk that sub moa accuracy up to the load I use though :-D I need the box mag something fierce- Idk if the OAL of my hand loads would fit in one though. What is your experience with Hand Loads in the box mag. How much does that muzzle break help you- I find without one I have trouble spotting for myself- some of the guys at the range swear that you can spot for yourself with the proper muzzle break. load 175 g smk with varget "secret powder weight XD" and random brass. I hope you love yours as much as I love mine Most people do not believe me but at 600 yards I shot a 3 shot group you could cover with a penny. Thankful I had witnesses that day XD Could it be replicated. - Probably not- absolutely no wind- baro was perfect- temp was perfect - barrel was the right temp- I still have the target in my man cave XD

I see you spared no expense. Very nice rifle. Savage makes them well. But what are you shooting at 1000 yards???

i have tried the 208 with rl17 but could not get it to group below 1 moa at 200 yards which is my standard for long range precision shooting. Thanks for the input

it is a model 10fp

in order to answer that question i will need to know how many inches of drop there will be. i use the JBM ballistic website to get all my trajectory information.

@BryansU2B there is an extra charge for the milling. contact cdiprecisiongunworks

Hello dribeker. I ran across your video and like what you have done with the 10fp. I am very interested in the magazine modification you performed. I am not a fan of the four cartridge internal magazine. How can I get more information about the modification? Thank you in advance and good luck on your shooting.

Great set-up... I am in the market for a bolt gun like this one, but I searched on Savage's website, and don't see the 10FP. Do you happen to know the nearest equivalent in their current line-up?

i sent it in to someone on a rifle forum. He cut, threaded and installed the bolt knob to the original handle. also it was cerakoted. Cost around $50. I don't remember who i sent it too.

LR9367, have you considered getting a Mil-Dot Master? (No, I don't work for them, in case you are wondering). It takes alot of the guesswork out of using a mil-dot recticle. Being old-school, I like moa also, but the mil-dot system does offer the ability to calculate range on the basis of what is seen in the field of view, without reference to a laser or other rangefinder. Isn't that the reason so many military/tactical LE people use the system?

Very nice rifle. I can see money is no issue. lol I'm currious how expensive it was to get the mill job to accept those sweet removable magazines? I may consider buying one of those rifles if I can make it accept those magies.

I don't know what type or caliber gun your playing with but the click idea will not work as it will be a inefficient way to dope your scope. Do these some things that will save you time. 1st - acquire the BC of your bullet you want to shoot. 2nd - take your preferred load or store bought ammo & shoot through a chronograph. 3rd - Run these numbers through G7 ballistic calculator. 4th put the amount of info on a shooting card that can be carried in the field.

i am probally not the one to ask on the type of bedding you should perform on your rifle. this is the video and type of bedding job i did on my rifle. search youtube: Road to Precision Part XIII

at 10 power on the scope, 25.2"

Hey guys, Check out my episode one of my long range build based off a Remington 700 Long Range! Episode 2 coming out in the very near future. Thanks!

What yardage am i looking at and with what MOA (not considering any shooters error) with my setup. Gun- Savage 11/111 with custom glass bed stock, floated barrel. Current barrel -stock 1/9 twist Ammunition- Hornady SST 162g Scope- Nightforce NXS 3.5-15 50mm I'm assuming the best upgrade next would be a heavy barrel (if you have any recommendations please let me know) I'm sure 1k yards is doable yes? And what would you say without the barrel upgrade yardage wise, what's the max I should be even bothering with?

hey man! i just bought a the same scope you have with a mildot reticle, im putting it on my remington 700 308. sps. do you think this combination together is good enough to shoot 400-600 yards without anything being done to it?

cdi precision.. it is a international accuracy 10 round magazine

Thanks, i need to post a new video. The rifle has a nightforce and a suppressor as soon as the paperwork clears.

I enjoyed your vid. How would you compare your rifle to a Rem 700? Just curious.

My tips would be to just practice with it. And I know if you've been using imperial measurements learning metric can be hard. But the beauty of metric is that everything is measured in increments of 10 so that fits in well with mill dots. as like I said 1 mil at 900 metres is .9 metres or 90cm. Where as .9 yards is 32.4 inches. So you see where the math starts getting more complex.

I am much more familiar with the MOA concept. I know some guys that all have mil dot stuff but when asked any specifics on why they prefer mil over moa I usually get the dear in the headlight look. So for example 1 moa @ 700yd = 7". What does a mil dot equal at 700?

What size is your objective lens on the zeiss? And what's the make an size one the rings? Nice rifle!

where did u get the extended mag and how many rounds does it hold? i havent been able to find them any where. i just have the 4 round one it came with

I doubt I would be shooting at a whole lot of stuff past 500yds., I believe most of Chris Kyle shots were under 400yds according to his book.

Where would I buy bigger mags for my savage edge .223/5.56?

i did not nor would not recommend installing by yourself. It takes a machine to mill out the correct dimensions for the bottom metal. i sent mine to the manufacture.

hanloads for my this rifle is 43.7 of varget, lapua brass and 178 amax. .005 off lands and produces 2650 fps

nice weapon sir, curious which size monopod that is?

How is the quest coming? Have you got to 1000 yards yet? Also I'm looking at the savage 10 FCP LE. Does that rifle REALLy come with a McMillan a3? IF so sounds good. The 10 fcp is a cheap stock i hear, but for 200 more the 10 fcp LE states to come standard with a mcmillan a3 (i can live with that) what do you think? Also scope recommendations ? Leupold or night force?

Just wondering? Why do you prefer mil dot over a moa reticle?

Very nice rifle. How did your shooting go?

.243 is a 6mm...genius.

dribeker Thats a nice ass rifle man...what would you consider a good entry level scope for a start-up savage 308?

it has been a couple of years since i bought it so i dont remember where i got it but look on amazon or ebay.

Wow! Something so simple!!! Thanks for putting it in that perspective. I never looked at it that way before. I just purchased a 6.5x284 norma & put a vortex viper 4-16 with a mrad reticle being the dealer could not get the moa version till november. So I am forcing myself to master both disciplines. So far it seems the math is more complex than the moa making crunching the numbers on the fly more challenging. Any more tips? I'm all ears. Thanks.

i tried 155 but did not hold good groups in my rifle.

why did you not go with the 300 Win Mag or .338 LM if you wanted to go to 1000 and much further with the 338LM (2707 yards Confirmed kill) was it the initial price which is not that much different or because of price of ammo

What did CDI charge you to change the internal box magazine over to the detachable magazine?

@dribeker I have a question about your bedding technique. Is skin bedding similar to glass bedding? What do you think of pillar bedding? I am thinking of pillar bedding a mi-surp rifle I bought off my friend.

Well, ask someone in the military or law enforcement/tactical community - those folks will know the system if anyone does. There is a certain fadishness to whatever is "newer and better," but the manufacturers - Leupold, Nightforce, Nikon, Zeiss, etc. - would not make optics in mil-dot or TMR if there wasn't demand for them...someone somewhere is using them. Far as I am concerned, I am agostic on it. Use whatever you prefer and whatever works....

the bottom metal anstock inletting was around $300

Sorry in the video Why such a short barrel for long range shooting. wouldnt you like a heavy long barrel? (Sorry i could be wrong here. Just looks small in the video. As i been told When shooting the barrel bends from the round getting ejected and such.

I use a scope that can measure MOA. So if you have an idea of the dimension of a target then its simple division rather than an equation. For exe - If I were to range a full size pickup truck I would go off of the wheel size. Most stock sizes are 15-17". If I measured the wheel with the scope & for example if only half of the wheel would fit in the MOA lines then it would be safe to assume the truck is around 600 yards out.This method is very simple. Whats your equation?