This is true. But honestly all I really want is for extra copies to be able to go dump to a quad tab so I could actually use unique affinity on the unique tab without it being a pain in the ass.

Can't you just buy more unique tabs?

I think with the way the affinity system works, it'll still say "can't place unique, no room" even if you have a quad tab with the unique affinity if you have a unique tab...@@thedarkemissary

Imagine buying multiple unique stash tab

you can ctrl shift click to bypass any affinity you set, if that's what you were looking for @@redfish337

actually we need a quick "compare with" or "swap with" to check the one I have in the tab so whenever you get a repeat, you could at least check if it's better or at least has better ilvl

You can buy upgrades for the normal tabs to quads right? Or it might just be normal to premium but not quad tab.

@@Synky normal to premium only you can't upgrade a normal to a quad

I'd say quad or premium tab bundle is A tier as well (at least first one)

@@Chkoupinator oh yeah i forgot those. And upgrade your basic tabs to premium too.

I wish I could split my quad tab into 4 small ones :D lol

Just buy more 😂

gotta buy that weta pet for free mystery box lmao

Tomorrow

The sale starts in exactly 24h (minus 5 minutes)

thanks guys

I don't think it's equitable in a game with trading to have people able to store infinitely more items to sell as long as they keep paying, and purposefully making currency stack like shit in the base tabs is a shit move imo (they are getting less crazy though, now that sacrifice fragments stack at least). Honestly imo they should either make one single stash tab upgrade for 60$ and consider it the base game with f2p being more like a trial (kinda like gw2 and such) and then make it possible to grind for extra stash tabs Or they could actually be a truly non p2w game and make stash tabs included with the game, I just bought a single premium tab upgrade while waiting for the sale and I made easily 40% of my money from selling stuff in it. I have been unable to sell literally anything in chat before anyone comes to mention that

A ton of f2p games make enough money from skins alone without having any p2w mechanic like this

U can post on forums you know too :D you dont NEED premium stash tabs to trade HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH why are u in every reply on this youtube video giving ur two-cents, seems like your salty you cant afford the tabs u want :PPPPPPPPPPPPPP @@Chkoupinator

@@Chkoupinator I would just view the tabs as the upgrade from a trial to a standard edition tbh.

I wouldn't call the stash tabs pay to win. They're more pay to play. The game is practically unplayable without tabs. I just got done with my first playthrough and of the 4 pages they give you, one is entirely full of currency and the other, full of essences, gems, maps and div cards. I'm left with enough space to store maybe 20 pieces of gear and uniques.

1 premium tab is not enough for trading unless you only sell very high velocity items (or underprice a lot)

skill issue. anyways theres a sale tomorrow so gl

I would recommend getting into a guild with map sharing and only having your highest value maps in your stash, with that get the first blood for +1 tab, the currency tab, a premium upgrade or two to have a shop and then either the fragments + essences tab or a quad tab (you can skip on the premium upgrades if you get a quad tab)

currency stash and fragment stash must have, essence qol, maps qol not needed in my opinion i play 200-300h per league and i never have full stash of favourited map if u farm them then buy map tab also

They could improve the free ones so that it's really about convenience and not necessity, or they could give people the same abilities in normal tabs but make them inconvenient (like no sorting, no div card auto redeem, anoint, no crafting space or nice layout like the currency tab etc). Would you mind giving more details on how much you spent and on what exactly?

money (not p2w game btw :copium:)

The premium stash tab bundle is a better value. You get slightly more space for the money. If you're just starting out, I would suggest getting the bundle. The main issue when just starting out is the numbers might not line up properly. eg, 120 for map and 60 for currency... you can get a quad for 120 and that's 300 even whereas the premium bundle would push you over that threshold. Even though the quad tabs are slightly less space per money (it's not a huge different, but it's still true), when you start getting a lot of tabs it's a lot of trouble to move between pages and you wish you just had more quads. Still, when you basically have no tabs available having extra subdivisions to work with can be nice. But once you stop wanting to subdivide you just want more on screen at once. If you keep dumping money in, I'd personally suggest: bundle ---> quad ---> bundle ---> only quads after that.

bigger weapons I need more bullets

Huh? The first blood pack is 20$, 250mtx isn't enough for the major ones unless you don't get the map tab

@@Chkoupinator First Blood you can get currency, map, premium with the coins and you'll be left with 10 (you should only buy tabs during a sale) With the 50 point you can get a tab or two depending on which you choose, and that helps heaps already.

​@@BlueberryJamPiethe major ones according to ziz are 340 points and I agree that you can't play the game without a map tab especially if you wanna do 3 to 1 receipes and such

​@@Chkoupinator That's according to him, but the real major ones are just currency, map and premium. The rest are mostly just QoL for not needing to organize as much or have extra space. They're good, but not needed and mechanic focused. Done many leagues with just the 3. I gotta organize a bit more yes, but they're more than enough. Like he said, get the ones for mechanics that you will use/like. Though the quad stash is technically the "best" 4th since you can put anything in it if you wanna change what mechanic you focus on each league. The unique one is really good if you do SSF only though.

There’s a 500 gem limit, iirc, and what gems you use to hit that limit can be whatever. No individual gem limits.

You can bypass the whole spending money affinity with alt + F4

gonna do this when I start playing worthy devs to support thx for breaking it down waiting for sale.

@@darkkenzi the sale is already up and will end soon fyi

Ure from diablo? Its one time purchase for entire life

@@kgldjkgur2046 this is a lie they only last one week when you buy then you can pay for premium membership and that lasts 2 weeks rinse repeat yw :D

@@kgldjkgur2046 No, just askin?

Stays

He's probably working on crafting it. By having it there you can easily apply the currrencies around it to hopefully improve the bow.

Also first blood pack like someone mentioned, good value. And never buy the in game currency directly, rather get supporter packs which come with additional goodies alongside the currency.

Pretty sure that he did cover quad tabs? 2:47

​@@TheAluvisify He did but only the storage aspect of them, not the premium feature they have where you can list things for trade. Unless they added that as a base feature with all tabs now but im pretty sure the starter 4 a new player gets can't do that.

@@lLethalGamesl yup non premium tabs still exist and that's what new players get

Bro this no bazzar 💀 Look in Store

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I hope you found a different way to support this "free to play game", thanks.

No idea what you're getting at. People can't even be bothered drop a measly 17 bucks on stash tabs via first blood pack. Do you think they will go big on cosmetics to support the game?

Up for this! I'm new so I want some idea.

To an extent. If you think your time is worth so little you rather make things a total pain in the ass for yourself instead of just pay $10-30.

You're missing the point. To play the game efficiently, stash tabs are mandatory. To use trade, stash tabs are mandatory. The game is de facto p2w and to properly enjoy it, you gotta spend some money. Acting as if it was entirely free is simply dishonest.

​@@Oktupus1stash tabs are not mandatory for trade

@@DthklOwns wtf they literally are mandatory to sell items, what are you talking about

​@@Gloriankithsanus no you can post on the forums and it will show up on trade site

@@Gloriankithsanus They literally aren't, just because you're ignorant to how it used to work doesn't mean it's impossible

The stash tabs system itself is a scam and I really feel like GGG deserve more shit for it. I almost quit multiple times because of it when I was broke they are extremely lucky I managed to get hooked back and buy stash tabs now, if I didn't get back into the game I would have been a net negative to their income only because of how frustrating they make the game without tabs

And not only that but they're not honest about it, imo they should clearly have a f2p and a b2p version with the necessary tabs, people look at PoE and think it's a completely F2P game (like there are hundreds of) you can play as much as you want and buy cosmetic things whenever you want/can but it's not

And it's not like GGG don't have the funds to invest in their community nor is it like they don't have the good faith necessary to survive strictly off supporter packs and skins. I don't think the people with enough supporter pack badges in the forum to make a Christmas tree jealous buy those packs just for tabs

​@@Chkoupinatorstash tabs and mtx are their ONLY form of income. It's literally insane to me you're able to complain with their method of monetization. It IS free to play in ever sense of the word, and the fact that the purchases carry over every league and allow you to still keep your items in standard is amazing. Yes, it's pay for convenience, but the alternatives for monetization such as paying for skills/levels would be game ruining. It's rare you find someone with your opinion that the stash tabs are a "scam". You don't NEED them, but if you want to grind the game, they are an insane QOL upgrade that carry over every league, and even into po2. I give GGG mad props for how they did this. Trust me, it could be far worse

​@@Chkoupinator They weren't "lucky" to hook you back, that's literally the design/marketing tactic working. You're the type of player they fish for with the system.

Best part is that it's usually always 1 week after league start to make sure they milk everyone they manage to frustrate on the league start. I have studied game economics design as part of my master's degree and this is a blatant frustration monetisation tactic that you would usually see only in mobile games...

you save like a 1 or 2 dollars with the sale don't worry if you didn't buy them on sale

Sale is tomorrow (25th) depending somewhat on your time zone, through the weekend. And more or less every 3 weeks.

Who said "the most f2p game ever"? Dozens of times? Ehh.. Really? Campaign is free. If you want to do endgame it's probably $30-60. Basically everyone outside GGG describes it that way. So you're not really doing an "in-game" purchase, it's buying the game. If you want to get by with $10 or $20, you can. Currency tab and a premium tab is sufficient. But you get bonuses at either $20 (first time) or $30 so most people give budget recommendations around those rather than $10. $10 = currency + premium $20 = currency + map + premium $30 = currency + map + fragment + premium

@@redfish337 in Poland it's definitely >all< you hear about this game. idk, maybe not in America, or wherever you're from. i agree, it's a 1-time purchase which makes it a lot less bad, but what annoys me the most is how obvious it is - you can't stack currency unless you buy a special stash. they WANT you to run out of storage eventually, it's their goal. it's so intrusive and feels so bad.

the reason i started playing this game is because i currently have no money and i heard dozens times "just play poe. there are ONLY skins in the store. it's completely free". now that i write them (and show screens coz they don't believe) they're shocked that stash isn't free in this game.