Sawing A Ponderosa Pine

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11 жыл бұрын

Sawing the largest segment from a Ponderosa Pine at the Historic Mill and Box Factory. The tree suffered extensive storm damage last winter making it necessary to harvest the tree before all the useful wood was lost. It measured 60" at the widest part at the base. It was mostly cut into large planks for builders of specialty furniture and luxury homes.
Video © 2013 Charley Williams

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@treebuzzard5796 7 жыл бұрын

It certainly is & thank you for the video, it's just great to sit back & watch them all work this steam mill.

@daizamaker-jerrybraswell1997 2 жыл бұрын

Damn! The power on that line pulling the log from the water up to the mill!

@MrShoptaw 2 жыл бұрын

Power from steam, who would have thought.

@eureka95501 Ай бұрын

Growing up in Eureka during the 60s and 70s this one brought back many very fond memories. Cant count the times I heard Mind your fingers and toes Boy.

@MrShoptaw Ай бұрын

Glad it brought back memories. Thanks for watching.

@johnpartridge7623 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic Video & thanks for sharing images to our past 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@MrShoptaw Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@davidgordy3358 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely Marvelous!

@MrShoptaw Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you liked the video.

@albertawheat6832 2 жыл бұрын

Another great Video...Thanks for sharing.

@MrShoptaw 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@albertawheat6832 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrShoptaw I am binge watching your video's, It's rare I find a complete set I can watch all of them...Awesome job.

@daizamaker-jerrybraswell1997 2 жыл бұрын

This is such a great video!

@MrShoptaw 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@willcarmack1242 Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable.....Great job!!!!

@MrShoptaw Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@tomw6162 Жыл бұрын

Table tops in one piece ! I can smell the wood just watching the video 👍

@MrShoptaw Жыл бұрын

It does smell good.

@calvinkalmon6746 6 ай бұрын

Wow, you guys were dialed in, it was hard to tell where machinery ended and humans began...excellent work!

@MrShoptaw 6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! Glad you watched the video.

@michaeltarasenkoop2389 Жыл бұрын

Amazing the power of water when turned into steam to pull up that large log just by heating water and turning it into steam Amazing !,,

@MrShoptaw Жыл бұрын

I agree. It can pull a whole train load of box cars. Thanks for watching.

@michaeltarasenkoop2389 Жыл бұрын

Great idea using a ordinary pistol drill into a sharpening wheel to sharpening that big saw mill blade !

@MrShoptaw Жыл бұрын

Works well. Thanks for watching.

@grazynazambeanie5963 3 ай бұрын

Old sawyer used to tell me " it took hunders of years for that tree to grow , surely you can take five minutes to cut it probably" . An other then he said was" if that three has got $400 worth of lumber in it , you better get $400 dollars worth of wood out of it ". Good job guys and girls

@MrShoptaw 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching the video.

@jeansdee8369 3 ай бұрын

🙂👍 cool Machine saws🙂👍🥇🥇

@MrShoptaw 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@douglasfawkes3052 5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff took me back to my childhood......much simpler times

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Good. Glad you watched the video. :>)

@patrickfoley1577 5 жыл бұрын

So glad to see some one cares enough to keep old mills like this running ! thanks for sharing.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

It's on the register of historic places. :>)

@ostlandr 9 жыл бұрын

The turbogenerator is just too cool! Never seen a double saw setup like that before. Great to see this technology kept alive- we may need it again real soon.

@Bigjoedo66 10 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your videos, you are not just sawing a board. I like all the steps that need to take place before you can cut or plane the lumber. Steam power and our ancestors ingenuity amaze me. Thanks

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks, they were sure a hard working bunch back then.

@husnihusni1567 5 жыл бұрын

Bigjoedo66 mantap

@22triggy 9 жыл бұрын

Poetry in motion, living the dream. Thank you so much for this from the UK.

@MrShoptaw 9 жыл бұрын

22triggy Thank you for the visit.

@kenbar4761 5 жыл бұрын

These are the kind of documentaries I like to see. No unecessary stupid music, No dumbed down narrator trying to 'Hype' up the content or special video effects to distract from the simple and enjoyable imparting of interesting knowledge.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. :>)

@lizchatfield692 5 жыл бұрын

I can hear the music .It the steam engine band .

@kenbar4761 5 жыл бұрын

@@lizchatfield692, I can't hear any music except for the first few seconds???

@Rextrent 5 жыл бұрын

You forgot The Sound of Silence. SHAZAM. beautiful vid

@Tomatoman857 10 жыл бұрын

Best sawmill video in the net - period. Ty!

@MrShoptaw 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you Fredrick, they work hard and produce a quality product.

@charleslawler7567 5 жыл бұрын

One of the best videos I have seen love the big logs

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. :>)

@rlm98253 9 жыл бұрын

Beautifully told story. Excellence in all aspects: continuity, video quality, shot selection, editing and audio. You, sir, are an artist. Thank you for sharing. And thank you for what you didn't share: shaky camera, swish pans, trombone zooms and crappy audio. Extremely well done. "Lock it off and let the story tell itself."

@bobjons7 5 жыл бұрын

This has been the most interesting video I have ever seen. No yelling, just coordinated like it was all choreographed! No idiots working there, or you loose a limb! The machinery is amazing! Pretty much like steam locomotive. Great video!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it.

@BuckinBillyRaySmith 6 жыл бұрын

I WAS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU , THANK YOU FOR PRODUCING THIS ,, GLORIOUS .. BE KIND

@MrShoptaw 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you watched. :>)

@bigshrek3252 6 жыл бұрын

Could watch these guys work all day! Amazing

@MrShoptaw 6 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. :>)

@amosjsoma 5 жыл бұрын

What an amazing piece of machinery!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

It was a pleasure to video. :>)

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

That is a gorgeous log and I'm glad you guys took the time to do her right. Awesome sawing.

@georgezarifis7409 9 жыл бұрын

This is one of the best videos I've seen on KZfaq!

@MrShoptaw 9 жыл бұрын

GEORGE ZARIFIS Thank you for that. It was indeed a pleasure videoing the mill.

@karl-axelfilipsson4947 7 жыл бұрын

GEORGE ZARIFIS sqaa

@javanbirdbluerusselling5285 5 жыл бұрын

Said the same thing!

@t.jeffveal-goattownfirewood 5 жыл бұрын

Where is this mill? Very cool to watch steam power at work.

@marcelharvey9474 5 жыл бұрын

MrShoptaw (7

@Railfan6675 10 жыл бұрын

This has to be one of the best sawmill videos on the net. That steam engine has "some" power to run those two saws. Great job by all and thanks for sharing.

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks, it was a joy to video.

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

I've done a lot of mill work and even handled overdimension up to 4x12. But your 3 by 30 looks a little tough to handle. I used to just run them through the edger and make boards out of them.... Wow, you guys are awesome. Love your slow approach and recovery of the nicest pieces. Hat is off.

@MrShoptaw 11 жыл бұрын

Glad you noticed that. I don't know the age or vintage of those devices. The mill is not a demonstration mill. It operates year around for lumber and box production and the use of certain modern devices is necessary to help maintain competiveness or reduce labor intensive tasks. In this video you see the saw being sharpened using a steam turbine electric powered tool but they still have and know how to use the hand powered sharpener if needed.

@bondovxm 11 жыл бұрын

As always, I learn by watching what I imagine. Thanks

@pete5137 5 жыл бұрын

this was pure enjoyment......you guys are awesome

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it. :>)

@treebuzzard5796 7 жыл бұрын

Nostalgic steam driven factory, great to watch...love the recycling of all the leftovers into the firebox..an amazing to work at i'm sure.

@MrShoptaw 7 жыл бұрын

It is a step back in time. :>)

@davidwatsonii9469 5 жыл бұрын

I LOVE WATCHIN THIS, I'VE SEEN IT HALF A DOZEN TIMES

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you like it. :>)

@pcharliep61 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, I really enjoy watching these machines being used.

@seeingdragons4319 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite videos on KZfaq ...

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. :>)

@flaplaya 8 жыл бұрын

Our forefathers thought of everything, even mechanizing saw dust removal. This has been a pleasure watching. I noticed she doesn't even hesitate with those.. I'm guessing 40 inch cuts. Must be in the order of 1 to 200 HP and I'm confident this mill has made a few extremely wealthy.

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

Steam is all about torque. Slow but never gives up.

@rogercarrico4975 5 жыл бұрын

I certainly hope everyone of those guys are making good money. Investing it well too. I Know they are sleeping well. That kind of work will wear you out good!

@gerry343 5 жыл бұрын

Beautiful film of a team working well together. Thank you.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you watched my film. :>)

@bill45colt 9 жыл бұрын

Pretty good for your first time!!! HA!! Hey, im IMPRESSED to say the very least!! Thanks for the education and show!!

@GaryTruesdale 10 жыл бұрын

I've never even seen planks like that. All that spinning steel and giant belts. That was awesome. using the saw dust to generate the steam to spin the blades to cut the wood and make the sawdust that generates the steam....

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

It's a grand old process.

@michaelcann280 5 жыл бұрын

Yes great plant ,,,even a small steam turbine connected to a generator for their electricity ..one of the best vids ive watched in years ..i only hope the mill is still working now ??

@shawnjones7512 5 жыл бұрын

Efficiency at its best

@TrustNotta 5 жыл бұрын

Great to see. I hope these boys are still milling to this day and for many years to come. 👍🏼👍🏼

@johnvaness8445 5 жыл бұрын

What a Fantastic old steam powered sawmill! Thanks for recording history in action!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it was a pleasure to video.

@donevanshug 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for keeping a part of our history a live. My Grandpa and Grandma came out from Mississippi in 1920, he had worked in Mississippi in mills starting at 12 years old as his father had died and he was the oldest. Jobs there were getting hard to find so they came out to Scotia, CA My Mom was born their in 1926. He worked as a pond monkey at the big redwood mill their, also operated a steam donkey, in southern Oregon, and went on to build mills in Marysville CA, Tionesta, CA Klamath Falls, OR, Ashland OR and Kirby OR I believe all are gone now My Mom had some pic's of the mills but I have no idea where thy went so again Thanks for the look at our past. God Bless

@MrShoptaw 9 жыл бұрын

Don Hughes Thank you Don, your Grandparents generation knew what hard work was all about. :>)

@MickLBrad 8 жыл бұрын

Gosh, I haven't seen a sawmill operation like that since I was a kid in the mid '50s. My brother's father-in-law had one in Grand Junction, Tennessee and Dad and I would occasionally go there on weekends and watch them process lumber. They made it look easy, but I know it was backbreaking work for the men. Those were some of the happiest country-boys I ever saw! Thanks for sharing this well-made video! Regards, Mick Bradford

@MrShoptaw 8 жыл бұрын

+Mick Bradford Thank you Mick for your comments. I feel very fortunate to have had the opportunity to document this mill and share it via KZfaq. Charley

@davidquirk8097 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for sharing. Good to see that old equipment still working as intended.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you watched the video. :>)

@dschephigh1 5 жыл бұрын

This is the coolest video.... Love the old school way of doing things.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you watched the video. :>)

@peteacher52 9 жыл бұрын

I was born after WW2, an era when steam, although on the way out, was still reasonably common. Your video is nostalgic, evocative of by-gone days and fascinating to those who love the allure of the sound, smell and motion of steam machinery. Also, to see a self-sufficient operation with the waste wood & "dust" fueling the boiler, the only oil used for lube. Truth to tell, though, your operation is likely more costly to run than if a big diesel engine was used as the power source. Cheers, Col, NZ.

@MrShoptaw 9 жыл бұрын

Colin Gantiglew Thanks Colin. I think what many take away after watching this operation is why automation found its way into the sawmill. :>)

@ruddiee22 8 жыл бұрын

Very beautiful machine and still running in good condition ,thanks for sharing the video love it guys.

@MrShoptaw 8 жыл бұрын

+Khaw Guan Seng - thank you, those old machines are so impressive to see and even better yet to watch in operation.

@LoggerWade 7 жыл бұрын

Man oh man what a neat mill!!!! thanks guys for all the work and for sharing with all us

@MrShoptaw 7 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. :>)

@stevehedman7969 7 жыл бұрын

I can tell that these people have such a great respect for the craft of being a sawyer and for the tree

@MrShoptaw 7 жыл бұрын

You are right about that. :>)

@darrenrhodenizer9431 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. You people should be proud of yourselves that is a excellent working mill.

@MrShoptaw 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you, appreciate the comment. :>)

@grundegrimstad4703 10 жыл бұрын

Wow! This is just pure meditation. Beautiful filming!

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@grundegrimstad4703 10 жыл бұрын

You're more than welcome. I don't need yoga to relax, I need a sofa, some cool beverage and this. This is not just a film, it's a historical document and I think it's invaluable for us and future generations to be able to learn history in this way. It's so much more direct and personal than reading about it in a book. Thank you from all of us who feels that way.

@SithSereyPheap1 8 жыл бұрын

I looked and i learned.Thanks for the education MrShoptaw !

@MrShoptaw 8 жыл бұрын

***** Your welcome :>)

@iguanaamphibioustruck7352 5 жыл бұрын

I worked at Utah Pine Co. at age 16. Mill was almost exactly the same with head rig, top rig, circular saws with insert teeth. That was in 1952 and the power was an International Harvester engine. The setter rode the carriage and I was the off bear-man and edger operator. The Pine logs came from a Forest Service Sale and the lumber went to a box factory in Cortez Colorado. Iguana

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Very good. Glad you watched my video.

@johnt7232 7 жыл бұрын

Love this video ! I first watched this bout two years ago and I suppose I have watched a hundred times since , I just love it . Its fantastic to see the whole works from feeding the fire to starting the engine feck it I wish I was there to see it live just me n the boys ...........I must stop this ramble you should be awarded an oscar for this production

@MrShoptaw 7 жыл бұрын

Well thank you, not looking for an Oscar, just glad it's being enjoyed. :>)

@charleslawler7567 7 жыл бұрын

Hound Dawgs q

@bowhunter7485 5 жыл бұрын

It's being enjoyed very, very, very much:):):)

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

Never seen so much effort put into sizing. What changes have been made. Even 40 years ago it was a matter of pushing a button and hitting a switch. This is REAL OLD school.

@ellieprice3396 6 жыл бұрын

The professional filming and powerful sawing of this huge log is truly impressive. I can almost smell the sharp pungent rosin of that pine sawdust.

@MrShoptaw 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I know what you mean. There is nothing like the smell of fresh cut lumber. :>)

@TrustNotta 5 жыл бұрын

I could watch this all day. Great piece of American history in action. 👍🏼👍🏼

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

I was honored to be allowed to video the mill in operation.

@daedster1 5 жыл бұрын

Loved the steam saw set up - keep it going!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you watched. :>)

@IdeologieUK 8 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful movie, thank you and extremely well done!

@MrShoptaw 8 жыл бұрын

+FlyBoySee Thank you, I appreciate the feedback.

@dragonblee1 5 жыл бұрын

Wonderful dangerous days, the sayer is the puller out, the lever man has the best job. They won't work so hard these days. A great video, brings back memories. Thank you.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. :>)

@pcbman1st 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Video. One of the best ones I've seen on the tube.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate hearing that. :>)

@1stMrSceptical 8 жыл бұрын

Great job just like being there. When I was a lad we used to take all our timber up to a mill in Worksop Nottinghamshire UK on the back of an Old AEC Mammoth Major MkII eight wheeler, happy days of youth in the 60s..

@MrShoptaw 8 жыл бұрын

+1stMrSceptical - thanks, it's such a joy to see these old machines still in use and better yet, being able to video them. :>)

@kylepeterson 10 жыл бұрын

that's a really nicely presented piece. someone put a lot of time into the angles, editing, and capturing the steps. thanks for that, well done !

@UweJensBauer 10 жыл бұрын

Einfach Bewundernswert wie das damals gemacht wurde und auch heute noch Funktioniert.

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

Uwe Jens Bauer Danke, die Mühle ist ein Schatz.

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kyle, the mill is a great subject for video.

@harrykuheim6107 5 жыл бұрын

Sawyer ASS Crack alert ...13:41

@mikemace2322 5 жыл бұрын

Love this video...did some of this work ona sawmill myself but steam powered takes the cake.. nice job!!!

@umbalaba 5 жыл бұрын

Those 20 minutes went by like nothing. So exciting and fascinating to watch! Thank you!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I was lucky to be able to spend many hours there capturing those images. :>)

@Goodwithwood69 10 жыл бұрын

A treat to watch!

@Chr.U.Cas2216 5 жыл бұрын

Simply fantastic again. Very well done sawing and filming again. I'm a huge/big fan of this familiy steam sawmill and Mr.Shoptaw, so thanks a lot for making, taping, editing, uploading and sharing. Best regards.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it was a real pleasure filming the mill.

@Castle6064 10 жыл бұрын

What a wonder full machine. It just goes to show, just because the machine is old doesn't make it redundant. And it is also environmentally sound as it runs on water and its own waste

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

I agree, thanks Alan.

@tjinnes 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! Great video, thanks. Good work.

@MrShoptaw 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. :>)

@TheMangrovejack1 5 жыл бұрын

An enduring reminder , of a good friend, you do beautiful work

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@sethwarner2540 9 жыл бұрын

WOW what a tree!! Man I'd love to work in that mill for a weeks vacation!!

@cactusbobaz 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great video!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it. :>)

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

Nice job on that pith. Pretty much perfect.

@bluefj-wc3vz 5 жыл бұрын

Incredible. Hard to imagine cutting those big ponderosas that size all day long back in the 30-40's. Used to help my father in law on his old 30's Belsaw mill that was a small type of version of that one. Hard work. I miss it.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Lots of hard work. :>)

@yankee9736 5 жыл бұрын

I love watching videos like this.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

@rimar2000 10 жыл бұрын

These things are hypnotic to me!

@jbmbanter897 9 жыл бұрын

I sold some pines a few months ago and some of those were at least 48 inches on the stump. Less than 3 acres and I got $21, 000. Would have loved to see them sawed!

@SmallRailroad 8 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of sawing a 24 inch log on my homebuilt mill with a 36 inch blade sometimes powered it with a John Deere A, and sometimes with a VW engine.

@rickclark4112 5 жыл бұрын

The only way this would be better is to see it in person......absolutely AWESOME....... Great job guys..... This is the way it should be done.... Keep it up.....

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. It is amazing to see in person.

@mjallenuk 8 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video ... worth taking this and watching it again but on my TV not my little macbook!

@clambert2020 5 жыл бұрын

This was amazing!!!! Thank you for sharing this!!! Amazing!!!!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The mill is a treasure.

@biggussd5473 10 жыл бұрын

Wow great video. the guy in the red tank top never stops, he has been there a long time & really knows that mill.

@MrShoptaw 10 жыл бұрын

Yes he has. Learned it all from his uncles, the Phillips brothers.

@mohawkmike142 7 жыл бұрын

We don't have these kind of men anymore. The country today could not do what it took to build this great nation. Men and their backs conquer nature. Love it.

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

Totally awesome sawing. Gorgeous.

@MrShoptaw 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, :>)

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

Same theory we basically used 40 years ago cutting large to small cedars into all available cuts and grades. From 1X3 six foot to 1X12 20 foot. I can still smell the saw sound. Awww... Memories. That tingle of the saw on the back cut always intrigues me.

@keithlincicum3691 5 жыл бұрын

I have watched these videos with amazement, but this is the first time I've seen the steam turbine turning the generator for your saw tooth grinder, Outstanding!!!!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Good, I'm glad you watched the video. I hope some day to video the machine shop in operation.

@jens-eriklangstrand1689 9 жыл бұрын

Increadibly facinating - both the steam powered mill, the turbine and the sharpening, and not the least the size of that pine! Remarkable difference in stress toll on the workers though - that master doesn't wear any extra fat on his body!

@MrShoptaw 9 жыл бұрын

jens-erik langstrand Thanks Jens-erik, they are a hard working family.

@MrDeathd 10 жыл бұрын

I can smell the fresh cuts ,the stickieness of the pine ,i remember wood being cut this way as a child grandpal would take us to the mill to get lumber tto fix the barns and what not great video

@georgeadams1955 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video! Thanks for sharing.

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. :>)

@javanbirdbluerusselling5285 5 жыл бұрын

This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen!!!! Most dangerously cool thing ever!!!!!

@MrShoptaw 5 жыл бұрын

It's old school mill works. :>)

@javanbirdbluerusselling5285 5 жыл бұрын

MrShoptaw I subscribed. Great filming and editing as well as incredible content! Thanks for your work! It is appreciated!😎👍👍👍

@VgarajeSuRf 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I noticed that the old coexists with the modern achievements in the extent required for successful business. For example, a circular saw with a teeths from hard alloy, sharpener with diamond wheel, pneumatics and electronics in production of boxes, and so on.

@hffcom 7 жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO

@MrShoptaw 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it. :>)

@georgezarifis7409 9 жыл бұрын

I wish I could visit this mill!

@schattenmygirl 10 жыл бұрын

I will be sharing info from this video with an Amish (friend) saw miller. I am going to look for more on the steam unit. 140 psi is a lot. The 60 hp boiler for my neighboring mill is 15 (low) .We have sawed 60" cottonwood on our mill without a top saw. A lot more waste and a chainsaw gives one a workout.. You found a great story line and did a great job documenting it. THANK YOU

@lesbrown7009 8 жыл бұрын

That is called sawing a log into the best you can get. Good work.