True…apart from the award, they never ended up getting the award they deserved due to political powers, Tony Blair declined the request for them to get the award & presentation they deserve because he didn’t want his political party being associated with the War at the time. I’ve been told this from a certain individual who was at the fort (Tony).

Something for you to think about. The perspective needs to be addressed. Qali-I-Jangi was a total cock-up. They were Taliban prisoners held inside the old fort which was nominally under Dostums control. They weren't properly searched and retained hand grenades etc. This allowed them to attempt to break-free, suicide bomb at least one CIA guy and release small arms that were stored on site. Perspective is important. Now, think of it this way, what if they had been ~ 320 British and American POWs killed, some with their hands tied behind their backs - how would that story have played out? The AFG and IRQ campaigns should not be celebrated they were major strategic defeats - vengeance is not a strategy, never was and never will be. AFG and IRQ are classic examples of poor strategy not being made up through tactical excellence c.f. Von Clausewitz.

@@VK6AB- i dont do geopolitical stuff mate. I am a former Para Commando in the Rhodesian Special Forces and i just deal with the grunts on the ground and their wars,

@@williammohan9784 Its not geopolitical - its factual. The facts, truth and honesty matter. There is little point in spinning monumental cock ups. Attitude matters, because attitude or bad attitudes reflect systemic problems and major culture problems within the armed forces. I'll remind you of this, a British service man or officer has the right to disobey an illegal order. The IRQ and AFG wars were appalling from a strategic, ethical and moral point of view - the fact the British armed forces supported them is a disgrace, the government and General Staff judgement and guidance was monumentally flawed. Because of these systemic problems many soldiers and civilians died needlessly. That matters. If you don't understand why, you're part of the problem and not part of the solution. Note, I'm NOT directing this at you per se - its a general comment and the people that were there know exactly what level of cock up it was they're also aware of what happened at Dasht-i-leili. The fact they didn't speak out or were silenced damns them or the organisation, there is no in between.

@@VK6AB- yeah whatever mate

Source? From what I've read, the main airport was already secured when the SBS were flown in.

@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Google it, I read it in a book, which I still have. Written by an x SF guy

This is the absurdity of it all. We can't have heroes unless we can actually make up our minds who the enemy is.

I was in the Falklands, it was the Americans that supplied us with intel and sidewinders which I'm grateful for. Being a Brit, we like the banter and to take the piss, especially to people we feel a kinship to. It's nothing personal, just our f**ked up sense of humour.

embarrassing. People who have never served

The Yanks are one of the few friends we have in the world - not Biden of course.

​@johndillon5290 unfortunately, for many Brits, it's not banter. I've come across so many fake stories, and the "I knew a guy who knows a guy who's sister's brother once said this about the yanks" stories on here, Facebook, Quora, etc. Unfortunately, many Brits believe their own propaganda and bs, which they then self-impose onto others.

It goes the same way you yanks slag our troops off , I don’t get it either way .we have fought together and lost comrades .All the haters have never seen action and are sat in there collapsing chair waiting for there dole money to come through so they can go to weatherspoons and talk bull shit lies about how they were at goose green and can’t get a job because of the polish

I highly doubt they are unfamiliar. After reading serval books and watching the documentary on the seige, my guess is he tells him to slow the rate of fire by adjusting the gas valve in order to persevere ammunition. UKSF are trained on multiple weapon systems as are all SF around the world. To suggest that they are unfamiliar with a weapon system used throughout the UK armed forces is nonsense.

Eh! If you mean Royal Marines, the GPMG is one of their basic weapons, and had been using it for many years

Foxy was a Royal marine

Afghanistan...

If you dig in, there’s a full documentary about it on KZfaq

Sympathetic guards?

They overpowered the guards and gained access to the armoury, in the documentary it tells you what happened

Correct

nonsense, those are stills from the footage shot during the battle and which first appeared on Channel 4 news.

@@IO-zg8md sorry mate but those are SBS. That still is from footage shot at the time and shown on Channel 4 news.

@@williammohan9784 no it’s not, your wrong, them stills are from an airsoft magazine shoot, I was present when they were taken. Also look at the real footage on channel 4, none of the guys had optics on their weapons, in the airsoft one they have optics….

@@raf3070 so let me get this right, there are people out there who actually recreate an obscure battle by dressing up in SB garb with all the kit and weapons. etc etc. Talk about Walts. Good God they really do walk amongst us.

@@1headtheball Correct...and after that they knew EXACTLY where he was at all times...that POS Obama used him being "Tracked down" and eliminated to help him in the polls...

Bin laden 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the guy who worked for the CIA in the 80s ? Jews blew up the world trade centres you fool hahahaha

The guy who America changed the name of from usama to osama 🤣🤣 gang of clowns

I have yet to see an official account of this, anywhere. A lot of hearsay online, but as far as accounts go, Dalton Fury's is arguably the most accurate accounting of events, and it was the CIA, not the SBS, along with ISA, that tracked OBL.

🤣💩😂

Who cares. Its called overwhelming force. Better you have it, than the enemy.

You really need to read up about Qala-i-Jangi. The prisoners killed their CIA interrogator and rioted, capturing the armoury and its weapons. The fight went on for 6 days with almost 500 killed from both sides.

Clueless. Read more and post less.

I take it you've never been to Afghanistan, everyone has at least 10 AK's

@@polla2256 Even the dogs have AK's there!!

There's footage online

Presumably you would make the same argument for the Royal Marines, the US Marines and the SEALS?

Really? Obviously on a wind-up.

Why? They go through the same special forces selection as the SAS do. But in addition they then go through maritime warfare training. As one SBS operative put it, "we can do anything the SAS can do, AND walk on water...". The SBS were also deployed to Iraq along with their SAS colleagues. And what you also seem not to know is that it is the UK's Director of Special Forces (an army major-general) who has operational command of both the SAS and SBS. He decides where the SBS is deployed, not the SBS themselves. So who are you to say they " had no place in a land-locked country"?

You should stick to the Beano.

@@JB-pp4nj So because you can't answer you come up with this childish comment. Grow up...