Good Job Marco. I am a 58 year old japanese businessman. I do not have much time, but I always bought some packages and painted them here and there. Your channel is by far the best one I ever saw, you are providing us with real treasures of informations. Not just in this video but in general. Thank you very much and the work you put into this videos is highly appreciated.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much to you!!! 😍 I really love how the videos put me in contact with fellow painters from all over the world 😁
@joshuahorchler6444 жыл бұрын
I'll say it again, Marco has the best miniature painting channel on KZfaq. Great info. Thanks for sharing!!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍😍😍😘
@PapaBoria4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@alfyb45124 жыл бұрын
Scale should be very happy with you. These paints have been out for a while but have received very, very few reviews. They’re a very special product, I like it a lot (I went for the full set in their KS), and I think it deserves to be better known.
@steveisaak43202 жыл бұрын
I just backed their books for painting miniatures. I am finding it difficult to find them here in the USA.
@stephenspackman55734 жыл бұрын
One of the things I like about these is that because they are less liquid you can, if you want, mix them unsmoothly, so there's some local variation to the colour. How I found out about them was through Asset Drop-they sent me three greens to try and suggested that I paint some moss, and I found that by mixing nearby colours very lazily I could get some nice organic looking effects with no real effort. So *that* ended up in me spending some money… ;).
@Goodgamers_1004 жыл бұрын
Great review, I will be picking some of these up. I really like the fact these won’t turn to washes overnight in your wetpallet.
@bethanygraham4274 жыл бұрын
I am using these paints to do a fantasy army and I am loving them. Smooth, great coverage, great blending....and you use so little from the tubes. I am a fan.
@steveisaak43202 жыл бұрын
I may get some of the tubes, but which colors?
@pieter-janvangucht21523 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for clear and precise info on this product and was not disappointed. Big thumbs up for your work Marco, you're an amazing source of inspiration and information!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million man!!!
@adamisforgiants67624 жыл бұрын
I actually bought traditional acrylic guache because of your videos. It was very fun to paint with different types of paint. Experimenting with different mediums is half the fun.
@alfyb45124 жыл бұрын
Oh, what did you get? I bought a set of Acryla Gouache from Holbein, but I haven’t received it yet. I’m hoping it dries slowly enough to help with wet blending, and coverage is supposed to be excellent.
@SinOfGin4 ай бұрын
These have become my favorite final detail acylics they work well with loaded brush technique for me
@Peregus4 жыл бұрын
When you are just going to sleep but you can't miss a video about a superyoutuber trying scalecolor
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁
@terryramsey59794 жыл бұрын
Exact same situation here - was heading to bed when I spied a new Marco video! Had to watch and it was useful!
@luismartinezgc4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Marco. I bought the basic colors set a few months ago to test them, and I’m totally in love with them. But it’s very useful to have a great test, challenging them with other products, and a sincerely opinion by a professional like you. Grazie veramente
@innsmouthharbour4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I was watering them down waaay too much; this weekend I'll try again working with a thicker consistency. [thumbs up] great vid as always
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😉 Thanks buddy!!! Yeah part of the fun of using these paints is to play with their body. They can totally be diluted to cover every possible situation but their consistency unlocks new exciting possibilities 😁
@Ainar864 жыл бұрын
Great review! I'm glad you compared them also to the artist acrylics as well as normal hobby paints. I wanted to buy some better paints as I'm fed up with transparency and mixing issues of the more popular brands and was leaning towards Kimera but I have a project with a lot of skin coming up so I think I'm going to try these instead as it means less mixing=more consistency.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! This is a good plan 😉
@bobdow38474 жыл бұрын
Really great review Marco... always a pleasure.
@IggySniff20004 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honest review. I love these paints! I have the basic set from the kickstarter, it's nice to see they put the pigment on the tube now, originally they didn't have this info. It was only after pressure from the community that they finally provided it.
@MrStatistx4 жыл бұрын
I heard their quality varies strongly from color to color. For now I have a few and am happy with them.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
I still didn't used every single tube, but for now I can say that the quality is pretty stable and coherent!
@johnaitken74304 жыл бұрын
Nice work Marco...I agree with you.knowing pigments helps...and leads the way towards paint by numbers approach all too frequent..
@truegregthompson4 жыл бұрын
Just put mine to use and happened to see this video. These are great paints but the one flaw, unless its changed, is that they dont sell individual colors which ruins them in the long run as I wont want to replace the white and black over and over with the basic set as I will still end up with a lot of extras
@antipopcult4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, wanted to say thanks for this review! Initially, when this line first came out, I had to do tests myself. I tested the consistency and the lasting power inside the wet palette (since my main issue was the paint getting "soggy" when leaving it inside overnight), however, I only bought a greyscale to test it out. I was concerned and skeptical that it was only for the black and white pigments, but I'm glad to see that it's not an issue with other colors as well! I'm now convinced that I should get the rest of the colors. Paint companies should really sponsor you their paint lines to review because you covered a lot of key points that a lot of other reviewers don't cover like how it lasts overnight in a wet palette.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😊😍 Thanks a million man!!!
@christianschmidt17844 жыл бұрын
All questions answered! Thank you!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@JimmyMurphythemurphyfella2 жыл бұрын
I picked these paints up after recommendation from a friend and watching this video. Great review
@nicholascaldwell60794 жыл бұрын
Your test on the black-primed card gives me a feeling the light paints are formulated with some kind of opacifier, maybe white PW 22, which is more transparent than PW6.
@willthorson45434 жыл бұрын
Scale 75 does fantastic figures too
@Justin_black_leviathan3 жыл бұрын
I'm ordering a few of these sets this week. I've never seen acrylics that act like oils so much.
@p_serdiuk3 жыл бұрын
Just got my Kimera set and Alfonso Giraldes is one of the painters credited with the original idea of the set. That's bonus points for his Scale 75 product, then :)
@Jeannot20734 жыл бұрын
thank you marco for this review, i'm honestly considering getting this line a try! even if i'm far from a mediocre painter myself :)
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure! I can't guarantee that they can fit 100% your workflow but when you understand how to use their spectrum of consistencies they are pure fun to use 😁
@philgee4864 жыл бұрын
Marco, your approach to the mixing and practical appreciation of paint and paint media is the best I've ever known. Like your Kimera review I'm left with a strong sense that I deserve to be able to use these paints for the sheer joy of having great tools to work with. That said, my hobby dollar is stretched all over and everything, models, games (kickstarter addiction), tools, paints has to be squeezed through a cost-benefit battle. To bring your paint reviews into absolute focus, and based on your impartiality born of just wanting the best stuff for your brushes and your models whoever makes it.. If like all of us here you already had a good range of our hobbies paints already, mine for example is pretty normal and happens to be 95% vallejo game colour, bits of GW and army painter mostly washes and Daler-Rowney inks, and you could stretch to around £100 maximum to add to it for now - what would your spend be? What would pass your rigorously determined test of paint qualities and bring the best beautiful new possibilities? I appreciate that Kimera and Scalecolour artist have similarities but also differences, but if you can't throw down the cash for a full set of both and live in that painting heaven, then what would you, Marco buy? I really must know! ;0) Looking at scalecolour boxes I thought the basic box but then though that's a nice red, I'd still need to buy a loose tube of magenta at least to be able to mix better colours, so long as the primary blue and yellow meet the same foundation pigment test? That would leave me just enough to stretch for a full set of Kimera and stay under the abstract but very real budget. But then more and more my colour contrast (hue) is coming from glazing, especially into the shadows, would it be better to swap in some heavy artist acrylics (I currently only have a few that were left when the wife stopped painting landscapes) for this so I'm not fighting the wonderful pigment densities into transparency for this? (and risking them break) Or are these great paints still fundamentally workable for that?? I know I've plucked a budget out of the air but if you'd consider the question and then give us your strong sense of the practicality it would really help those of us selecting without ever having been able to see these paints in the flesh. Your vids of course discuss with your measured depth of knowledge and experience and show the qualities there on the palette with accustomed camera quality, but my head still aches and once spent I've only one shot for a while. Appreciate it Marco, you are simply the best I've met at this stuff and my work benefits hugely from your joy, understanding and sheer ability to convey it simply and clearly. Maybe it's because we share a sci background, chemistry in my case. My thanks m8
@philgee4864 жыл бұрын
*"I know I've plucked a budget out of the air" and maybe the same question at £60 or so would be well worth considering for a lot of folks too - was something I intended to have said, or whatever you yourself would guage as well????
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
If I have to choose a single set I would go with Kimera. It's cheaper, versatile and fits a bit better my style and workflow (but this is obviously very personal). When I want to test a new set of paints I always buy primary and secondary tones, black and white and maybe a couple of browns; this is everything you really need to mix and paint everything and a great way to stay even in a very limited budget (or to able to try more different brands and ranges)!
@philgee4864 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Marco you're the guy we need. What I'm taking from this is I'll buy a basic box set of Scalecolour artist and a loose tube of magenta, probably a true burnt sienna too, to complement the burnt sienna/umber in the box as soon as I can. That leaves me waiting as long as it takes for Kimera to get to making theirs available again. Already been waiting since your review vid, which feels like an age of looking at their pages each day, so if they just can't manage that in the next few weeks I'll probably pick up a scalecolour flesh box in the meantime and if it goes on and on look to some of the other box sets. Looking at my heavy body acrylics for glazing I need some more process cyan and that's about it for now so my glazing will go on from strength to strength. I'm thinking of making a move to using just oils for normal fleshtones on anything but tabletop quality units. you've guided me to a love affair with them. (don't tell the wife)
@philgee4864 жыл бұрын
Of all the youtube I've watched (a lot), and the advice I've read, you're 90% of the quality improvement in my processes and results just on your own Marco. You've given me a lot more joy in my hobby and I bless you for it m8
@philgee4863 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I'm back to this vid after a year. I did buy exactly what I'd intended, a basic scalecolour box plus a magenta and a burnt sienna. My Kimera color box arrived not too much later (now carried by UK shops for future resupply!) and I've been using both for months. You recent speedpainting workflows have used the scalecolour thick and pretty pure to detail at the end, not highlighting but serves the same purpose and adds a ton of your texturing strokes. That's what brought me back. So now how have I ended up using them? Kimera have become my absolute goto for mixing shades and transitions, exploring colour theory, for painting anything beyond tabletop troop models. (still a lot of what I do) I use the scalecolours for detailing and trying to copy your bold texturing. They're superb for a one pass and done step to elevate models beyond the basic job. They make for easily readable embellishment and always repay the time spent brilliantly. For this reason even tabletop troops get a quick workover en masse. Often I get them on the table in a rush without and then comeback to them later to do it, somehow the fresh eyes help. Plus just embellishing a unit is a quick and relaxing spell of painting to treat myself to. My vallejo collection is now what I use through the airbrush and when blocking in colours on units. the proof of their relegation is that increasingly I open a bottle and have to rehabilitate the paint with my restoration mix (I mix thinner, some matt medium and a drop or two of flow improver to stir into the paint with a twist of wire in my dremel chuck)
@zh11994 жыл бұрын
Marco, love the channel, but still waiting to see how you paint black!!
@gianmariasandigliano4 жыл бұрын
Dammit!!! Now I want more colors! :)
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😂😁😂😁😂😁
@Whiplash5574 жыл бұрын
This is is such an amazing channel, Thank you for the great content! Theese colors are a bit intimidating for me (i've painted for about a year now). But I've decided to order them anyways, from watching this video I feel like they could be a very valuable tool as a learning experience. As a way of understanding color and contrasts, this seems like a great tool . Now I just gotta buy some practice models to ruin while I try to get the consistency right :)
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍😍😍
@MrUnreal91114 жыл бұрын
they have such a nice packagings.
@nomusenopaint4 жыл бұрын
Would have been great actually seeing you thinning and applying the paint properly on an actual model. Thanks for the review no less! :)
@geertthomas4 жыл бұрын
He does in a previous video and more are coming 😎😉
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Check my previous video, there are 10 minutes of real time painting and much more footage where I use them on a model (there's a link also in this video)
@nomusenopaint4 жыл бұрын
Oh sorry then!! Mea culpa 😊
@jaanikaapa69254 жыл бұрын
I'm like you: if the packaging is gorgeous I WILL get interested. It usually also tells about the brand's selfrespect. I've been looking into getting back into modeling and I've become interested in painting minis and figures. So far on my to get list are these Scalecolors, Kimera paints, inks (forget the name) and oils... Most likely not Abteilung even if they're specialized for modeling. Though an airbrush does intrigue me too.
@MegaLadysman12344 жыл бұрын
Our of curiosity, why are you avoid Abteilung?
@jaanikaapa69254 жыл бұрын
MegaLadysman1234 Absolutely not avoiding. It is a brilliant brand and absolutely wonderful paints. I'm a total newbie with oils and painting figures so having more oil in the paint makes the drying time longer. This way it will give me more time to spot errors and fix them. Abteilung's oils are designed for modeling and so have less oil (plastics do not absorb liquids like canvas) and thus the drying time is a lot shorter.
@MegaLadysman12344 жыл бұрын
@@jaanikaapa6925 Ah right. I've painted a lot with typical intermediate and artist oils, and haven't noticed such an enormous difference with Abteilung; if you use a cardboard pallette that definitely makes a difference given the oil absorption. Ultimately I find Abteilung dries almost as slow as my WN oils for example.
@ShipWreck684 жыл бұрын
I just recently switched to the scale75 fantasy and game colors and i can not say enough great things about them.
@geertthomas4 жыл бұрын
Me too 😎😊
@ProjeKtWEREWOLF4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I have been so disappointed with the Vallejo game colors I started with (especially the browns).
@michaeln56602 жыл бұрын
thanks for telling us about these! i went all-in recently and got the whole set just like you, then we had so much rain my hobby area flooded and i couldn't paint for 3 weeks. when i opened my wet palette again, these paints were still perfectly usable and none of my mixes had separated or dried - amazing paints!
@CanHammer4 жыл бұрын
damn Marco, now i gotta buy more paints!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 This time I admit that is totally my fault!
@giovanniscafidi24104 жыл бұрын
Sempre top anche nei consigli pratici e tecnici 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😉😉
@keithkraine4754 жыл бұрын
Great work as usual Marco. Damn you, more of my pension disappears!!! keep safe my friend.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 This time I can admit that it's all my fault 😅!
@inigodearcos3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and educational content, thank you Marco!
@trevorscroft3 жыл бұрын
I'm an intermediate painter that picked up a set from the kickstarter, I've tried them a few times but can't get them to work for me. They don't thin well for me. Further instruction on how to correctly use them would be appreciated
@TheCatHerder4 жыл бұрын
I backed these on kickstarter when I was *just* getting into painting and still haven't gotten the hang of using them.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry it's just a matter of time 😉
@Forest0922 Жыл бұрын
So I have this whole set and they are great, I was ordering some stuff from AK Interactive’s site over in pain and I saw they have Abteilung 502 Artist Dense Acrylic paints which seem to be a direct competitor and they are way cheaper and now I'm super curious to try them.If you ever get some you should do a review of them.
@lifelonglessson4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these reviews! Have you ever tried Warcolours?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you! No, I never had the chance to try them
@fergusconnor74764 жыл бұрын
Hey Marco have you considered selling your own merch?
@EvilhomerNZ4 жыл бұрын
Like.. I NEED that beanie in my life.
@philgee4864 жыл бұрын
He really can sell paints!!!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
I recently started thinking to this option! I have a couple of cool ideas 😁
@innsmouthharbour4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM As long as your ideas include shipping ability to China I'm onboard :)
@mouselim72 Жыл бұрын
I think it's not call consistency but it's viscosity.
@ikkiiiieee3 жыл бұрын
Do these contain opacifiers / fillers? or is it purely the pigments listed like Kimera? As opacifiers might explain the less pigment density and they also market it as being with good coverage
@nightkids294 жыл бұрын
I want that set, but I just bought the fantasy set from scale 75
@KiddoButai4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Marco, great video as usual. Have you considered doing a tutorial on these? I got a set to try them out and I have to say I'm struggling to get them to work.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! Sure thing 😉 in the meantime check my previous video; there are 10 minutes of real time painting using only Scale Artist in there 😉
@stephenspackman55734 жыл бұрын
(Also, I think your link in the description points to Vallejo glaze medium, even though it says Liquitex.)
@brianfoley43282 жыл бұрын
The term "scale color" (as opposed to the brand name) use to mean the changes in color due to the scale size. Painting a 1/700 scale model ship in US Navy "Haze Grey" is a different shade than painting the exact same ship but in a different scale. The same Haze Grey appears much darker on a 1/700 scale ship than it does on a 1/350 scale ship. It has something to do with the amount of surface area and the light that reflects off of varying sized models. I don't know enough about figure painting so I'll ask..."Is it the same for miniature figures ? Should colors be lightened to take into effect scale size" ?
@p_serdiuk3 жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, did you see the "Color Theory Banshee" set made in cooperation with Alfonso Giraldez specifically for mixing colors using Scalecolor Artist and Inktensity? It looks like a very good all-in-one kit for someone who might not want to buy the entire range, yet who is also not satisfied with only the basic box, like myself. And I think it complements Kimera very nicely for a similar price.
@jetobserve874 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion between scale and kimera? Do you think it's worth to have those two brands, for example for primary, secondary colors?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
If I have to choose a single set I would go for Kimera because they suits better my style and workflow, but using them in combo is definitely the best option!
@hageng.61493 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review! I think I will buy the basic color set to do my homework as you call them. 😏 But one question: What colors of this artistic range would you recommend for CYM painting? Magenta of course, but also the primary blue and yellow? Or different one? 🤔
@MarcoFrisoniNJM3 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure 😁! Yes, magenta and primary yellow are a perfect match for CMY; primary blue is not the perfect cyan but a good approximation and the best option in the set
@hageng.61493 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks a lot Marco! Allways a joy to watch your videos. (:
@jamesdelahaye44544 жыл бұрын
I have purchased these but I am still waiting on them as the Covid has stopped shipping to my country from Spain. :(
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the parcel is always the worst part 😅😂😅
@TheTitetitelle4 жыл бұрын
I'm scared now to order to scale directly. I wanted to order them on Element games but available on the 13 July and I have a course on the 18th. We'll see...
@Ryccio914 жыл бұрын
Ormai metto mi piace prima ancora di guardarli i tuoi video :'D
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😂😁😘
@oisinmoyne97043 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual. Would you suggest the scale artists primary blue as a good option for a primary cyan or is there another colour you would choose?
@ricardoflummiremus Жыл бұрын
That was super helpful thank you Maestro Frisonji! Also, I’ve got myself Kimera Kolors and are glad they’re higher saturated.. are they still the highest pigment rate colors available?! Greetings from Germany 🙌🏼🌞❤️🐝💨💨
@phillipstokes84963 жыл бұрын
so having used them for so long, which do you find yourself using more often; Kimera or Scalecolor?
@peterdickinson45994 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@germainmalaret49214 жыл бұрын
hello maestro
@senchinosenchino20982 жыл бұрын
Great review but could you tell me what the difference is between these paints and regular artist acrylics. Is there something that makes these paints more appropriate for miniture painting then say golden or any other type of artist grade acrylics. Keep up the good work
@nicholasvinkler16354 жыл бұрын
Hey Marco. My fellow aircraft mechanic at work and I have a bet going on. He's from Italy and I asked him to guess what part of Italy your accent might be from. Are you a northern or southern Italian?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😂😁 I'm from Rimini, a little touristic city in Emilia Romagna 😉
@nicholasvinkler16354 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks soooo much Marco. I'll be sure to let him know. My great grandma was born in a southern town in 1903. I'll figure out how to spell the name and let ya know. I live your vids man. Keep it up
@lord1napalm8 ай бұрын
Another nice video. If you have to choose only one now with the years of practice, would you go for Kimera or scale artists? (I've understood that the paint doesn't make the artist, but I just have some ready mixed paints for now).
@MarcoFrisoniNJM8 ай бұрын
I would say Kimera (first/base set). Scale are a bit more user friendly at the beginning and an easier transition because of the size of the range but a bit less versatile in the long run and I like the idea of a very small efficient set to really push your mixing game. And after that this "missing link" there's the art store 😉
@lord1napalm8 ай бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks a lot for the answer. And thanks for your channel, learning tons of things, now it's time to test ! (Painting my first miniature with oil over an acrylic base right now, a warhammer Throggoth), i like it, it's a new territory !
@MarcoFrisoniNJM8 ай бұрын
@@lord1napalm it's a pleasure 😊 Nice!!! Keep me updated 😉! The YT videos will be back in the next few days and you can pop in a Twitch stream and share your WIPs/ask me questions directly 😊
@lordshadowbolt4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, great review and you answered a bunch of questions I had regarding these paints. Question for you if I may - all mini painters I know around here primarily use watercolour brushes, myself included. Given these are genuine acrylics as opposed to "typical" miniature paint, do you think brushes more suited to gouache may be advisable? What did you use and did you need to adjust your brushes/technique?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting! I use Winsor&Newton Series7 for everything and I didn't have any issue with this kind of thickness but if you want to use Scale Artist thick as they come out from from the tube (totally legit) a more rigid brush, even synthetic, can be useful for the first layers of solid brushstrokes
@steveisaak43202 жыл бұрын
Marco have you used their regular acrylic paints that come in dropper bottles? What do you think?
@maxbrandt64 жыл бұрын
Great review, I really should get these paints for my collection! And am I subbed to you yet? I've seen to that now!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁😁😁😘
@jdrpodcast63904 жыл бұрын
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Nice video Marco! Can you tell how the paints behave compared to oils for wet blending? Obviously they will dry faster than oils but they seem like a good alternative, like an in-between.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!! It's almost impossible to beat oils in this territory but these acrylics (and any other heavy body line) are for sure the easiest and most satisfying to use for wet blending!!!
@Scherdnr4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you notice any solvent smell when using these scale artist paints? I’ve seen a couple people mention it and I’ve never noticed any with any of my previous hobby paint.
@JorenMathews4 жыл бұрын
I've never noticed any, or tasted anything noticeably worse. Though Scale75 paints tend to taste worse in general than other ranges in my experience.
@stephenspackman55734 жыл бұрын
They (at least many of the colours) smell citrusy, and it's lovely. A few of my other paints have a slight chemical smell, but these are the only ones where I'd have thought to remark on it. I don't eat my paint, so I'm not qualified to comment on taste.
@ephythecat53354 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer Khimera or these paints? Just curious!
@geronimo81594 жыл бұрын
Hehehe... I was thinking the same, "did't he advertise Kimera as 'the best' already?" :D :D :D
@cemeeks4 жыл бұрын
I’m also curious. I’ve been wanting Kimera since your last video but they’ve been out of stock while the scale colors is available now. I’m wondering if I should wait for Kimera to come back in stock or just get scale color
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
If I have to choose a single set I choose Kimera. They suits better my workflow and my style plus I like to work with a smaller set!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
"Best paints for miniature painting" is the name of the video's series 😅. If I have to choose a single set I go with Kimera because they fit better in my way of painting
@ephythecat53354 жыл бұрын
@@cemeeks Same! I wonder when they will be back in...
@l33tpie4 жыл бұрын
Marco please, contact scale75 or something, you gotta at-least get a little of the thousands people will be spending after this video ;).
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@bl00dthrister4 жыл бұрын
Another great review, thanks a lot for that! I do have a question though. The paint looks way too thick to apply smoothly to a mini. How much do you have to thin it to get a nice smooth coat? Or does it spread out very smoothly on a small area like a small horn on a mini?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure! This kind of paints (even heavy body artist acrylics) are really smooth and easy to move and they can totally be used as they are or with a minimal amount of thinning. Check the video of the GodTear's warband where I use them almost undiluted!
@alexmayo16894 жыл бұрын
Which would you recommend between these and the Kimera Kolors? I'm trying to start using a limited palette and more mixing. Love your videos, thank you for sharing!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
For a true all purpose, deeply satisfying selection of tones I would go with Kimera!
@alexmayo16894 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Great, thank you for the reply!
@travelminipainter4 жыл бұрын
Good and thorough review. I bought the Basic colours, but would like to expand into CYMK paint mixing and scetch style painting. I have found the magenta in the line, but there seems to be no cyan other than "Cobalt Blue" - the pigment used is PB15:1 - Phtalocyanine Blue RS - Would that by Cyan? Thanks in advance.
@alino619 ай бұрын
thnx great vid ..:)
@LinglongPingPongChingChong4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Marco! by any chance would you recommend other heavy body acrylics aside from the scale75 artist range, Jo Sonjas or Maimeri to paint miniatures? tbh it's just to save more money. I recently bought Jo Sonja paints and its definitely cheaper than the hobby paints and was wondering what other heavy body acrylics are viable for miniature painting.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
My favourite brands for heavy body acrylics are Liquitex and Golden! Maimeri are a good option and a great value with their huge jars of paint but I noticed that they are a bit difficult to find outside Italy. I recently tried JoSonja and they work well on miniatures!
@LinglongPingPongChingChong4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks for the reply Marco! I have yet to try Liquitex and Golden on miniatures. Will try to buy a basic palette then go on from there.
@UkkoKaarto4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I'm torn by this kind of paints. I'm very experienced army painter and can whip up a big uniform army really quick using basic methods of airbrushing, GW washes and edge highlights. But I'm struggling to reach the next level. I could get this set, use it once or twice on practicing on some not so important miniature and then once I start painting yet another army I'd slip back to my comfort zone of GW paints and washes since the recipes are easy to reproduce and you get good speed/quality -ratio on progress. So (there is a question here) Marco (and other painters here on the comments as well) what are your opinions how to break this spell? Should I order the full range of these paints and throw away my GW collection or are these more suited for busts and Golden Demon "one miniature, four months" -style of painting. Cheers!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Super quick answer: you don't need to buy new paints 😁. The solution is not in a new set of colours and if you are comfortable with GW paints, stick with them (great painters like Antonio Peña for example use only GW paints!). You need to change your perspective on painting and find new ways more than new paints; that's why in my videos I constantly change styles, techniques and materials, to prove that you can achieve good results using whatever you want! Start moving outside your comfort zone, stop using pre made washes for a while, find a new technique that you like and try to master it... This can really help you 😉
@UkkoKaarto4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM excellent advice, thanks. I am comfortable with GW paints that is true and I'm able to achieve good results with them. It is mostly about knowing what comes out when using certain paint. But I'm also always pushing to try new methods and painting alchemy to help me achieve cool results with even easier. The latest addition to the toolkit has been AK Streaking Grime which is awesome stuff. Your videos have also been great inspiration. After thinking about it for a while I think my main problem is that I want to paint everything so fast. I want to get things done and move on. A while back I painted two models with Scale75 Fantasy Set Paints and really like the result. And also bought the Angel Giraldez book and some Vallejo paints and managed to paint some lovely Infinity models. Some of the best miniatures I have painted for sure. But it took a lot of time. I think the key is that I have to learn to rush less and enjoy more :)
@nunorodrigues29873 жыл бұрын
@Marco Having the Kimera kolor set which from the Scale range would complement better any missing colors from the Kimera set?
@filterdecay4 жыл бұрын
hey marco. Random question - Do you have blue light filter glasses on? It kinda looks like it and I was wondering if that affects your color mixing?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Yeah they have the blue light filter, but I have just a bit of myopia and I never really wear them at the painting table so I can't tell if that affects the fine colour perception... This is an interesting thing to investigate!
@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS4 жыл бұрын
Said very humbly, and from my supremely limited experience: I don't think I quite agree with your statement about *light* colors having weaker coverage on acrylics. I believe it's *saturated* colors which tend to be transparent - even colors like Phtalo Blue, Dioxazine Violet tend to be quite trasparent on their own, not just poor Hansa Yellow. The only colors that cover very well (outside expensive stuff like cadmiums, that is unlikely to be employed unless you're on high-end colors) are desaturated colors -- ochres, blacks (carbon or Mars), Green Oxide (often a component of olive greens) and, of course, Titanium white, which is bloodly everywhere. As i recall, when I was just getting started, I was puzzled by how my dark purple covered worse than light purple, and thought it was because the purple was a low quality brand - whereas it probably just meant the lighter purple had PW6 diluting the PV23 -- and I thought a super cheap line of chinese paints I found locally was great because their yellow ochre covered decently despite being a yellow, whereas it's one of the strongest colors. Comunque, a suo tempo, avevo iniziato a smanettare coi Maimeri, mi trovavo bene, da niubbo non sapevo se era perché eran buoni o perché ero un incompetente che non sapeva usare i colori da artista serio. Ti avevo chiesto, mi avevi detto che eran buoni, li ho usati con meno paura, ed è stato uno dei consigli più buoni che abbia mai ricevuto. Con il fatto che sono in gel, è molto più facile diluirli correttamente senza fare il disastro che faccio coi Vallejo, con le informazioni su pigmenti e trasparenza sul tubo ho imparato un mucchio sui colori, ed ho sempre un'idea chiara con che colori fare basi o glaze... ed anche i metallici sono buoni. Poi, rispetto ai colori da miniature, smanettando come un bastardo ho trovato anche prezzi buoni: a 3 euro per un tubo da 70ml, che non finirò mai neanche se lo "spreco" sul terreno. Ed ho i colori Acrylic, quelli (relativamente) economici... i Polycolor o i Brera probabilmente saranno tutto un'altro cliente. Grazie mille ancora Marco, sembra un cazzo ma m'hai proprio dato una mano a far meglio quella volta.
@Jerryman_PL4 жыл бұрын
Well, adding to that - on artist ranges of paints you get the markings for opacity (filled, half-filled, crossed, empty square) - and immediately that informs you what is opacity of particular paint. Here we do not have this and neither lightfastness - how well paint ages upon light. That and lack of separate colors availability turns me off these paints. Also while living in larger city I have local access to multiple artist range paints (and Scale 75 regular lines) this ones are on special order. So not that convincing for me for now. Looking for dense paints I actually purchased first set of oil paints to test them (Maimeri Classico), as Abteilung was not highly rated in my research (not to mention availability). And they have ~inexpensive cadmiums - recommended (among others) in this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7N2gKl7ttLFZo0.html. Marco, just to be clear really appreciate this video, as for airbrush colors it was actually you to point me to artists ink ranges - ended with some Schmincke and Talens Amsterdam ones. For this one I really miss comparison to W&N, Maimeri or some of these ranges, instead of hobby paint ranges. You mention Liquitex but it seems also to miss opacity marks.
@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS4 жыл бұрын
@@Jerryman_PL I actually mentioned how useful transparency markers are in the Italian part of the comment. They've been invaluable for me, both in using the colors, and in learning what to expect from miniature range paints. While I'm not familiar with Liquitex (which in Italy cost a ton), they do seem to show the transparency marker at least on the website -- www.liquitex.com/row/products/professional/colors/heavy-body-acrylic/
@Jerryman_PL4 жыл бұрын
@@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS Just google translated your Italian part - so you use Maimeri Acrylics - just checked, I see they do not have opaque yellows and reds - do they have still covering power? As cadmiums are available only in much pricier Brera line. For Liquitex they are scarcely available in my area, so i did not investigated them that much, but even on webpage you need to just select individual color to check opacity, no palette overview - boomer :)
@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS4 жыл бұрын
@@Jerryman_PL First of all, if you are looking at my reply and assuming I know what I'm doing, stop because I'm an idiot -- don't assume I can give good advice like the far more experienced Marco. Secondly, based on my limited experience, I've checked everywhere and (saturated) reds and yellows never cover too well. It's better to use a white/light grey basecoat. This said, at least for an Italian, the least expensive strong coverage reds/yellows would be, in theory, in Maimeri's mid-range acrylic range -- Polycolor, where every color is listed as having maximum coverage. I'm planning to get some (specifically, for the reds and yellows) but I've not tested it yet (also, keep in mind my retailer asks for little over 2 euro for a 20ml tube, and less than 6 for a 140ml can -- for you, they'll probably be more expensive, and you may find better options). If you want good color charts for Maimeri colors, I suggest dowloading the pdf brochure, so you have them all on the same page.
@Jerryman_PL4 жыл бұрын
@@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS Hi, prices in Poland are similar, I rather avoid now dark primers, shifting from black to gary with white highlight - maybe except of metallic-focused models. One interesting red is scale75.com/en/inktensity-range/877-inktense-crimson.html, but that is bit different story :)
@cristianocunha56724 жыл бұрын
What about their finish? Are they as matt as the scale color range? I love those particularly because of this.
@JorenMathews4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@innsmouthharbour4 жыл бұрын
I've only (so far) got the basic set and yes they are a super matt finish
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah the finish is super matt!
@Highlaw4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, your videos inspired me and I spent way too much as my first dive into miniatures, but I'm still lacking inks. I was shopping around and I found a Vallejo set (to which I'd have to add a Liquitex white), System3 and FW sets at the same price. Is there any one of these you'd recommend over the others? Furthermore System3 and FW are from the same company, yet I can't find any differences between them from their descriptions, so I'm stuck deciding between the two (or a Vallejo ink set + Liquitex white). Many thanks!
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Sorry for your wallet 😅. FW are classic acrylic inks, extreme fluidity, highly pigmented and in various levels of transparency. The System3 are all opaque so not really good for transparency effects! Vallejo and Scale75 inks are good but dry more quickly than artist inks (that could be a good or bad thing depending on the situation). My favourite brands are Liquitex (for the brighter tones) and FW (for the huge variety of interesting hues)!
@Highlaw4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks for the reply :-) I ended up going with Vallejo + Liquitex White, as the set came with 8 colors while the other options were only 5 (although 30ml as opposed to 17ml but I don't think I need too much quantity starting out). Actually the FW starter set was sold out so I could only pick the Muted set which isn't as versatile starting out. My only other real choice was System3 but I want the transparency option. Anyway, all supplies were bought, almost a month's worth of salary! Worth it.
@p_serdiuk4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Have you tried Amsterdam inks by Royal Talens?
@PapaBoria4 жыл бұрын
What do you think if Game color. I found in dime yellow or Orange very poor coverage. Do you think os because specific colors ir It is something that happen to all the Game color brand?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
It's a good classic range of hobby paints. That's the normal behaviour of those pigments and a sign that the pigment tends to be quite pure (extra pigments like white add opacity)
@rcane61313 жыл бұрын
hello! i just saw this video, im wondering which colors make the perfect picks for the cyan magenta and yellow colors? would you recommend the primary yellow, magenta, and primary blue? or is the turquoise blue more of a cyan in this range? I really want to try out the CMYK color palette with this paint range, im just not sure which paints are the right choice...thank you!
@Abraxis20124 жыл бұрын
Problem is the Kimeras are hardly in stock anywhere as far as I can tell.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
They constantly come out in small batches, but you have to be quick
@Abraxis20124 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM as you say that I just managed to get the box from pk-pro
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
@@Abraxis2012 Awesome!!!
@N3STOR32 жыл бұрын
so...in your feel ...whats better SC Artist or Kimera ?
@steveisaak43202 жыл бұрын
Marco, what I am seeing is dropper bottles, is this different?
@ikkiiiieee4 жыл бұрын
What will you be using them for more specifically? Apart from glazing and consistent mixing I seem to have missed the point
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
To paint models 😅 And as I said they are better and more interesting when used in their thick version than every other consistency
@boggakjetil4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend getting this line if I want to start painting more busts and display pieces? I currently have a load of army painter paints, but I am not that happy with their coverage.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
It depends on how you paint more than on the subject. If you like dense, covering paints for sketching and wet blending these can be the paints for you!
@boggakjetil4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks for the reply. I have some of them, I will continue using them and see how they work for me in the long run.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
@@boggakjetil that's probably the best solution. You should consider also Kimera colours if you like to mix your own tones
@terrydactyl2077 Жыл бұрын
Marco sir. Have you tried the scalecolor Floww oil paints?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
Yep! And I can only say, stick to art store oils ;)
@terrydactyl2077 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Ok! I assumed this as no one ever mentions them
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
@@terrydactyl2077 yeah and it's a pity... We could really use a dedicated range with smaller tubes and a selection of bright fantasy tones!
@terrydactyl2077 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM did you see they have a series 2 coming out? Fluro colours I’m there! But no really super bright normal colours. They might continue to expand tho!
@markdevries36004 жыл бұрын
Would you say these paints are similar to acrylic gouache?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Not really, they are much much more opaque and dense! But they have for sure a similar saturation and vibrance
@giuseppedagostino68544 жыл бұрын
Oh boy... here we go again.... *looks at wallet*
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 It's a real risk this time!
@giuseppedagostino68544 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Eh, each set costs more or less 20€, so I think I can afford one of them in this situation... The problem is that I don't know which one to buy
@os72724 жыл бұрын
sorry for the question, but where did you get these little metal mixing helpers at 11:35?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
The paint trays/wells come from companies like Tamiya, MrHobby, UStar, (now also AK Interactive has its own ak-interactive.com/product/modeling-paint-wells/ ). You can find them in any model shop or with better prices on eBay (sadly I still don't have a stable and safe link to share); my stash is a souvenir from Korea 😅
@os72724 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thank you for answering!
@CamilleDeveveraux4 жыл бұрын
hey Marco, i wonder, where did you find the file to print your gw pot holder ? i need one. just redid my knees with nuln oil one hour ago :'(
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 It has been printed by a friend a while ago, I'll check if I can find it but I'm pretty sure it's on Thingiverse!
@alfonxoduff3 жыл бұрын
Marco, where do you get those metalic dishes to mix the paint?
@MRiJUSTcantREMEMBER3 жыл бұрын
Amazon or ebay. Metal paint mixing trays. Usually 10 or 12 for about 3 €. For example on Amazon (germany) "Mr Hobby paint tray"
@iangagne15204 жыл бұрын
Marco, great video again ! How would you deal with painting armies that have a peculiar scheme with these paints ? I see it would be hard to mix paints and get always the same exact color time after time (like painting a medium to large force of space marines with a singular color like sons of Horus for example). Thanks !
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million! If I need a custom colour for a large force I usually prepare a good quantity of the mix in a separate pot/bottle. For something like a warband/Killteam I simply write down the recipe and the proportions of the mix 😊
@tolpoyer2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, I'm just getting into using these, but primarily mixing colours - I have the primaries, black, white, flesh, burnt umber, off white - and have just added magenta - do you know which of their artist range is the closest to a pure cyan?
@MRiJUSTcantREMEMBER Жыл бұрын
I am not Marco of course, but you can use their "primary blue" or "cobalt blue". Primary is made of PB 15:3 pigments, "cobalt blue" made of 15:1. 15:3 has a bit of a green shade, 15:1 a bit of a red shade, but neither matters much. Both are original phthalocyanine blues, so they are the original cyan. PB 15:1 is used alot in printer inks and varnish.
@JazzToTheTwo2 жыл бұрын
Are these not just the same thing as Windsor and Newton water mixable oils?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM2 жыл бұрын
Nope! These are 100% acrylics
@joshfoss74074 жыл бұрын
I guess I understand that they fill a "blend your own colors" role similar to Kimera, but it seems weird to me that Scale75 would compete against its own Scalecolor line. Is the idea that this line is for more experienced painters, or is there a reason for an experienced painter to still use scalecolor over this line? As it is, Scalecolor is already a bit of an expert-level paint it seems.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
The Artist and Scalecolour line are very very different products! Scalecolors are good quality paints but definitely in hobby range. The Artist line with its thick consistency and the single pigments covers a different slice of market, plus having more options is always a good thing 😊
@chrisshaw4514 жыл бұрын
Can I ask where there paints are available from ?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM4 жыл бұрын
I put all the links in the description 😁
@chrisshaw4514 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Oops sorry did not see it.
@n3r0n33 жыл бұрын
I had promised myself to finally stop buying paints... and now you there u are fueling my addiction again!!!!!! shame on u! ;) (anyway it's like with kimera: I am a shallow consumer and what really convinced me was the pretty box)