Someone in chat had a good point. Scan is used to the Korean grading system, anything below a B is a paddlin’. 😂

I was the lead programmer on Broodwar. It was a tremendous opportunity and the game turned out fantastic. One of the few games I worked on that I still love and play weekly to this day. Glad to see others love it as well, and the game is still popular. Its one of the best all time ever games IMO

Scan just puts everyone in A lmao “Only used in the zerg matchup, and After hydra lurker this unit is completely useless, A tier”

All you need to know if that Dark Archon is in S, devourer is in A and Science Vessel is in C.

I feel like scan's tier list is "how good is the unit at doing its job" rather than "how often is the unit used"

5:52 Look at Artosis's face when Scan says Valkyries are S LMAO

Protect this man at all costs.

"If there was an A+" >4 empty tabs

Dude I love whenever Scan is on Arty's stream. Please keep the Scan content coming!!!

So Artosis' tierlist is closer to Twitch Chat's than to Scan's. Interesting

So Artosis' logic I could kind of follow and suggest slight modifications to. Scan's logic seems to be a tier list based partially on Fastest Map? Cause like sure, fastest map 3v3 Devourer + Valkyrie + Dark Archon is a great comp!

Wow this was a hilariously unexpected list. Makes a little more sense when you realise he was considering ALL possible scenarios, including Fastest, not just standard 1v1.

Scan's face in the thumbnail is an instant like from me.

Scan apparently needs the S+ S A+ A A- B C Tierlist

Honestly for the logic I think he is using I kinda understand where most things are placed. The exception is science vessels, flying spellcaster detector with 3 useful spells that is used in every matchup is not C rank lmfao.

wonder if Scan compares units towards their counterpart. then the list kinda makes sense. Put ghost next to defiler and high templar for example or whatever. Im trying to understand his logic x)

I love Artosis's confused look throughout. Like he's not sure if he's being trolled 😄

I lost it at 5:50 LOL

Loved Artosis reactions while Scan made his list that was so good

I've been waiting for this!

We Need a non terran do this

I've been waiting for this :) Artosis' head was breaking lol

Science vessel has 3 god spells and its a flying spell caster should be SSSSSSSS++++ its also useful in every match up iraddiate owns in TvZ emp Owns in TvP and defence matrix helps a lot in TvT when busting tank lines

Finally! I've been waiting for this for weeks lol

Kind of goes to show how balanced SC is, save from a few units like the infestor and scout, there's pretty much no useless unit, while all 3 races have a lot of good and great units for each role.

Scan is out of his mind, I was laughing so hard watching this Amazing video and even better tier list, he's insane

unsaid by scan @10:17 the missile crisis unsaid by artosis @13:45 i dont even acknowledge i learned something from scan

Scan is so much fun on this channel

Artosis when his fans ranking system differs slightly "you guys are insane, you guys are wrong" Artosis when Scan's ranking differs obscenely "this is the greatest tier list anyone ever made "

Scan: everything is op in brood war, and he's not wrong

So,at 6:30 arty should be "Ok ,scan .come off drugs and now do the real list"

He seems to be saying that units are good if they provide a concrete path to victory, even if it is highly contextual. Otherwise, I don't know how firebats are A.

I need, need, need an updated tier list, honestly. I wonder what changed in the last couple of years, I think some rankings would change (Queens have been getting more popular lately, for example, which was not the case back then)

i love that in the begining arty was coky about scan's final list then he realized his whole life was a lie, magic

Please make an Upgrade tier list😊

Omg the energy the chat exudes is fking hilarious. Makes me wish i was there I’m laughing at all those comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣

10:00 Please, someone explain to me what was changed to the Valkyrie :/ I never knew it

I love how they completely forget to mention that SCVs can repair every building and every unit they act like its just dog shit meanwhile without repair terran would auto loss every game vs range goons. SCVs are in fact the best worker in the game just for that fact

5:52 LMAO artosis's lips twitched im dying

Holy sh!t. I havnt laughed that much in a while...

sc1 is pretty balanced every unit is pretty good and useful in most scenarios with exception of only air attacking units having a niche job. Also in Protoss if the game goes on, having 2 or 3 dark archons storing energy for feed backs on casters/ mind control on capital air units/ malestrom on a ball of zerg unit is insane. Thats the difference of a regular player and a player with the extra apm and mind clarity to prepare for extra advantages. there are many times just brute force does win you the game, like Best as protoss. But extra magic units and utlizing them are important as well. Also drones tend to mine minerals faster on certain starting positions namely the rightside mineral starting positions. lurkers with swarm halts any terran pushes until the swarm ends (which it never will with consuming zerglings) or vessel irradiate kills it. Which you force your opponent to research and tech to tier 3 for vessels. its not about just the unit value its what you force your opponent to produce and react. in TvZ, a single BC can halt an entire expansion, and 2 or 3 decides the game. scourge = 50/25 for 2 that both of them can kill dropships. sairs, and mutas. and firebats counter dark swarm pretty well so. Think western audience and players have different perception of units and strats vs koreans. also looking at scans tier list, it looks like he prioritizies units that are essential to a match up and units that you aim not to loose since they are essential part of your army, and when they die its gg. exception of cheap zerlings units that are too good for their cost. also valks can shoot from their butt if you micro them correctly. So they can shoot and run like mutas can vs air.

what about ranking the buildings?

¿Cual es el canal de Scan?, porfabor lo necesito

Some of those "WHAAAAT!" s have perfect comedic timing 🤣

Devourer acid spores also slows down affected units attack rate

Is there any competitive games that anyone knows of where infested Terrans are used? I would like to see them in action. In my head, they're an awesome unit that can one-shot everything, and can get dropped in mineral lines to the same success to that of a high templar drop. I've never seen them used though. I know I'm wrong - but I want to see a game where they are used!

Devourer above scourge?

Should remake this but with a maximum of 9 units in the same rank xD

felt like there is literally no metric at all on how he decided to rank things

Probe i want to see what he thinks of it. Because scv can also troe down buildings

Valkyrie is now S due to the non-firing glitch largely addressed.

Scan is absolutely trolling lmao

This video is basically Syndrome going " and if everyone is super....nobody is."

You don't use add block. why?

"Valkyrie, definitely a good unit. S rank." AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA IM FUCKING DYING LMAO

artosis face when scan places valk in S rank lol

This unit tier list should vary in different match-ups, for example, vulture should rank S+ in tvp, but lower in tvz; battlecruiser may rank A or S in tvz and tvt, but D or E in tvp.

you know, probe v drone v scv makes sense. probes can build infinite buildings and don't need to be near them so they're not vulnerable drones can build a single building but again, not vulnerable SCVs can build infinite buildings but can be destroyed at any time while building to completely halt production without ever shooting the building

Art: Don’t be putting Terran units up there just so people like you. Scan: VALKYRIE S

There will be a day the algorithm favors SC content and then artosis will be on top

If everything is op, nothing is op

I don't know does Scan actually understand the logic of a tier list. You can't put like 90% of units to S or A rank. What is even the point of a tier list if you do that 😂

10:45 "They don't even shit"

7:50 "Completely useless...I guess it belongs in A"

Few comments: - Drone is far worse than SCV (and Probe) - if it builds anything it costs your economy the most, as it is lost, additionally you usually have less of them than other workers, so it's even worse. - Medic should be at least on par with Marines - but probably higher. Medic is what makes Marines good, without it they are trash, without any possibility to being repaired and die like flies. Medics allow also Stimpack abuse, when you stim Marines the moment you see any enemy flyer harassment - Medics made that stims free. - Wraith is no better than Corsair. Wraiths die like flies, cost like siege tank an they are barely ever used - only used because Terrans are forced to do so until they have BC+V or make drops. While Corsair deal splash, is very fast and in late game has Web. Also it can almost instantly heal with Shield Battery. In this ranking maybe Wraith should be D and Corsair C tier. - Ghost is not that bad. Problem is it requires separate Science Facility and add on than BC - but at the same time it can Lockdown a BC, Science vessel, Arbiter or Carrier. Or Terran/Protoss transport. Ghosts are good, but are useless against the Zerg with costly tech tree. Probably D tier should better.

Oh another tier list. I think this one will have DTs as low tier since this on is with scan.

DA on S.. in free for all maybe IMO.

The one that surprised me is Corsair that low, the splash damage when hitting critical mass shreds anything that flies, including a bunch of devourers landing spores.

I've heard Infested Terran is OP in ZvP

I feel like Scan is being obtuse on purpose to get people thinking about certain units. Valkyrie post patch is 1-2 tiers higher than OG Broodwar (especially on money maps), but no way it's S

Dark Archon is pretty good against Zerg. Mind Control is good against Lurkers and Ultras.

This exercise is all about the criteria used to rank everything. There is no way archon are as good as ultras except as a head-to-head comparison. Ultras are used in far more games at scale because they are more useful im general. Valkyries can't be S because they are a niche reaction situational unit that is too expensive to build at scale.

i would install some addblock on this machine lol

I’m what world is a Valkyrie better than a. Corsair ???

Now that scan said Dark Archons is S I'm playing Protoss to make my own DA Meta!

Scout needs +1 armor and do 12 ground dmg Dark Archon Maelstrom needs to cost 75 energy Guardian 160 hp / Devourer morph cost 100min/50gas

scan is trolling he has to be

How terran players do tier rankings: "how frustrating is the terran unit to use? How frustrating is the other race unit to play?" against?

Just the same as my list

I guess they forgot that SCVs can repair stuff (awesome video though)

when he said fastest, he's talking about the game speed not the map right?

It fills me that queens are in B. People don't seem to realize just how good Ensnare is.

Based on cost there is no better unit in the game than the Vulture and its really not even close. I would have it in S rank all by itself.

How is ultra not S and why is DA S? Is valk even S? DA is not competitive because mind control is not cost efficient at all so idk how an inefficient spell makes DA S class

Dark Archon S rank - rarely gets used

Artosis definitely has a gun under the camera. That's why his posture's all weird

nobody ever uses devourer??

science vessel is an easy s rank, like pretty much all prime spell caster (HT, Defiler, Vessel). Can't take anyone serious who doesn't accep this

Scans tier list is like B tier from all the tier lists.

What in the actual fuck is Dark Archon doing in S tier?

Vulture A, Valkyrie S, lmao

to all the people calling scan crazy about putting valkyrie in S watch this video: this is what he was talking about. top level fastest map players like brain and shin-style use this valkyrie micro to shut down carriers at a safe distance; backshot micro to shoot interceptors. because the valkyrie moves back, the interceptors retreat back inside the carriers because there no longer is a target in range. but because the valkyrie shot is homing, it will follow the interceptors back and damage the carriers. not to mention valkyrie upgrades is per rocket, meaning in actuality their upgrades scale as rediculously as tanks in siege mode. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMxhqqeE2ciclo0.html

Scan has to be trolling

I hope Scan was trolling.

Corsaire in D makes zero sense to me. It is one of the most important units in every PvZ.

Devourer in A rank, what a clown show.

Valkyries are the best girl of the game so ofc they get S. Scan knows what hes doing.

You know, the ridiculous part of this is how utility/caster units are on this list. Those units dont have any way of attacking (other than **some** spells), and yet some of them are top tier? Who the fuck perceives reality like that?!

terran players gotta love em

I'll take his word but I think he didn't really utilize the middle of the tier list. Like made A and S too broad and not as narrow as they ought to be.