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Misfire Quick Tests (Is it a spark, fuel or compression problem?)

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@joemikos900
@joemikos900 6 жыл бұрын
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@willgeorgiadis6472
@willgeorgiadis6472 6 жыл бұрын
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@ehabshady7984
@ehabshady7984 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm not a technician but I am interested to learn these electrical engineering.if I resisted in played channel,did you think I'll learn.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 5 жыл бұрын
It's $11 a month and I offer a 14 day free trial. Thanks for your interest!
@EartAlienEB1
@EartAlienEB1 5 жыл бұрын
I need a guy like you to help me find my problem , got a bad first /cold start issue with a 1.6 8v SR 102 hp vw engine . Starts right up but then idles poorly in 3 cylinders and then drops rpm and dies . after driving it for 5 minutes when car gets warmer it starts right up no issues any more . it has got power and pulls ok but sometimes around 2000rpm it shakes a bit . Help?
@ryana.miller8260
@ryana.miller8260 4 жыл бұрын
If Scannerdanner is among the top three here on KZfaq, I'd be curious to learn about the other two channels behind him! Lol
@FCES_Electrical_Sol
@FCES_Electrical_Sol 2 жыл бұрын
I love advanced diagnostics , this guy is a diagnostics master in automotive.
@arneerisoty2700
@arneerisoty2700 2 жыл бұрын
He gets to the root issues quickly, teaches his tricks all without editing, he's the real deal!
@nordicpride9708
@nordicpride9708 2 күн бұрын
You are the Mike Rowe of KZfaq mechanics my friend. Top notch teacher and content!
@tmo2798
@tmo2798 2 жыл бұрын
Straight to the points. All of them. Acknowledged mistake in assumption and explained it all clearly. Thanks, Dan!
@dtnel
@dtnel 6 жыл бұрын
I like watching you do things hands on which puts things in perspective for those of us who lack experience with troubleshooting in certain areas. +1
@auginater4200
@auginater4200 4 жыл бұрын
Or those of us that lack these fancy tools lol
@secondwindmusicproductions
@secondwindmusicproductions 6 жыл бұрын
I had a 94 Chrysler Laser years ago with intermittent low compression on one cylinder similar to this case. It turned out to be a bad valve guide. Using a compression gauge it would read bad one time and OK the next. It also fouled the plug with the bad valve. It was bad from new. The dealer knurled the guides and it worked for 6 months or so, long enough to get out of warranty. I ended up replacing the cylinder head after which it ran far better than when new. Oil in the cylinder made it want to pre-ignite. The knock sensor backed off the timing and it was a stone. After the fix I could lay rubber with it.
@BigTrav256
@BigTrav256 2 жыл бұрын
The best I’ve ever seen do it so far
@W.Khairi
@W.Khairi 5 жыл бұрын
Can't get much more professional than that, Thank you very much.
@davidweum9334
@davidweum9334 4 жыл бұрын
Valve spring?
@dawinner777
@dawinner777 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Although I don’t understand the scope diagnosis completely it certainly opened my eyes to deeper diagnostic techniques.
@robinsonsmotorcycleandauto3929
@robinsonsmotorcycleandauto3929 6 жыл бұрын
Happy to see that Pico scope out. Great Job Paul it's always a pleasure to watch you work.
@timothyball3144
@timothyball3144 6 жыл бұрын
Rear valve cover isn't that bad on that van. I did stem seals on one at 485,000 miles. Last I heard it was still running just fine North of 500,000. Commercial van with lots of miles and few cold start heat cycles as well as being in an arid environment and having a dedicated mechanic helped it reach a round trip to the moon and back. Great new tools for the toolbox on my shoulders. Thanks Paul.
@billk5727
@billk5727 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, The real time out in the field diagnostics like this drive the learning from the Premium Channel home. Take care Bill
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bill!
@mikerama4724
@mikerama4724 8 ай бұрын
My daughters 2002 mazda626 has a cylinder 3 misfire, changed the spark plug, coil and wires with no change with rough idle I’m at my wits end. Your video has given me other possibilities to explore. Thank you for your video.
@505fastlife6
@505fastlife6 5 ай бұрын
Take to someone who knows how to properly diagnose instead of throwing parts at it. You will save money in the end.
@RobertL78
@RobertL78 6 жыл бұрын
I just changed the heads on the 2000 Ranger 3.0 with 188,000 miles. They had known exhaust valve issues over time. Turns out I had cylinders 4 and 6 getting coolant in the chamber which was cracking spark plugs and then once I had the old heads on the bench, 5 out of 6 had brake parts cleaner leak past the exhaust valve seats. Now with new heads with hardened seats, all new head, intake and valve cover gaskets, I am battling high LTFT's. Got new O2 sensors on the way since mine have about 60,000 miles on them with raw fuel from misfires for who knows how long. Good news is that there is no sludge in the motor and the cylinder walls still have the cross hatch on them.
@josefelix4152
@josefelix4152 4 жыл бұрын
I see why it's pointless to further check for anything else than physically checking the valve train, thanks I learned a lot today.
@daviddealba9886
@daviddealba9886 3 ай бұрын
I have the same problem cylinder 4 .sometimes it runs good sometimes it runs bad.but always cyl 4 .the car had a ticking noise after the head gaskets were replaced .so I replaced both rocker arms and lifters .i don’t know that it had a code p0304 before I replaced the rockers because like I said it had a blown head gasket .the machine shop said the heads and valves were ok .when they resurfaced the heads .so now I’m stuck with the cyl 4 misfire .compression test showed bad compression .bit some times it runs great .you nailed it for me .its a bad lifter ona new rocker assembly but more than likely a piece of some thing is blocking the oiling orifice for that lifter. Thanks a million your thorough diagnosis lead me to the only problem it could be .bad lifter or more likely a piece of silicone blocking the lifter orifice intermittently.now I can fix the car for zero dollars .
@johnrunck849
@johnrunck849 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a beast. Definitely completely thorough.
@whitdough8150
@whitdough8150 2 жыл бұрын
They got me really like looking for sounds now 😁... It's very amazing what a vehicle can say just by that sense.
@dporrasxtremeLS3
@dporrasxtremeLS3 6 жыл бұрын
When you present on video I feel like you are talking directly to me very effectively. Thank you for All your videos S/D!
@markorkarenhanes1354
@markorkarenhanes1354 Жыл бұрын
Gonna sub, not only for the great info, but I see you are still replying to comments today on a 5 year old video. Very rare and commendable. Much respect. Thanks.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you! If that's not motivation to keep answering questions, I don't know what is.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 6 жыл бұрын
it's a dodge caravan, it was beat when it left the dealer lot :))
@markmacias8263
@markmacias8263 10 ай бұрын
In the past have found as the valve is turning a warped valve face will intermittently not seal properly. its usually thinner on one side on the exhaust valve side. I made this repair back in 2009 with a year model 1999 town and country /200,00 and its still running good today. My point to new technicians, be confident in your diagnosis and don't be afraid to repair instead of replace.
@Airman..
@Airman.. 6 жыл бұрын
Good job sharpening production skills Paul.. your channel is just getting better
@hankthebugman
@hankthebugman 6 жыл бұрын
My 2000 Grand Caravan gave me 343000 km (215,000 miles) before packing it in. 3.8 L engine. There is no substitute for timely maintenance.
@HondaTrumpAi
@HondaTrumpAi 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it a 3.5L???
@angelozararis7404
@angelozararis7404 4 жыл бұрын
Yes very true 1 have 2003 with 365.000 miles original engine and transmission i bought new. Still runs but body rot is bad.
@PIANOSTYLE100
@PIANOSTYLE100 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelozararis7404 I have 270 k on my 1999 Chrysler Town and Country. Also have done various repairs on it. The have amazing pickup on them.
@83mike860
@83mike860 3 жыл бұрын
Mine has a misfire .. going to the shop.. just replaced all seals from intake manifold to the air filter all new injectors .. hands are up but not going to let her go down
@83mike860
@83mike860 3 жыл бұрын
@@PIANOSTYLE100 mines 270k miles 05 .. I love .. (yes alot of work and ppl yelling my just go buy new .. nah I can't give her up .. even with her Mis#5
@baddriversofnorthtexas6850
@baddriversofnorthtexas6850 6 жыл бұрын
Send it to Eric, he loves those vans
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA! He sure gets alot of those!
@SouthMainAuto
@SouthMainAuto 6 жыл бұрын
Make my living on Chrysler's haha
@niterbum
@niterbum 4 жыл бұрын
not what i wanted to hear i just bought one haha i love your channel to SMAR
@niterbum
@niterbum 4 жыл бұрын
too
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 6 жыл бұрын
I say broken exhaust spring, it sounded like it was alternating/cycling while running. the broken spring is riding up itself and dropping back off the other piece, probably broken near the spring base =p
@ufarkingicehole
@ufarkingicehole 4 жыл бұрын
What about the perfect vacuum.?
@dcomputers
@dcomputers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ufarkingicehole its intermittent wouldnt the valve spring be consistent. lifter seems more like it. maybe slow to pump up
@ufarkingicehole
@ufarkingicehole 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcomputers the vacuum being constant makes me believe the valve springs are ok. It sounds like the lifters are tapping or not priming properly. Based on that alone I would assume the bottom end is ok. The valves are sealing. I would want to run a test to see if all of the cylinders seem to be doing what it's supposed to. I would want to know if its running lean/rich/ or ok. Possible sticking injector? Hahaha so I actually watched the video and yea..... I'm sticking with a jacked up lifter
@zbynekm2918
@zbynekm2918 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcomputers Not necessarily, I had cracked valve spring on 2 GR Toyota engine and the problem was intermittent. I do agree that in this case a lifter is probably the suspect. Great work by Paul as usual.
@waitforit6524
@waitforit6524 2 жыл бұрын
Scanner "no sugar coating" Dan, well done again. Nicely explained.
@505fastlife6
@505fastlife6 5 ай бұрын
Dont skip anything please i wanted to see how you connected that vaccuum gauge. Edit: I'm a fairly new mechanic with 3 years experience and these videos have helped me advance in my career. I look like the smart guy at work thanks to your videos.
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@ScannerDanner 5 ай бұрын
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@505fastlife6
@505fastlife6 5 ай бұрын
@@ScannerDanner I checked it out and I'm actually going to give it a go I have your book already.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 5 ай бұрын
​@505fastlife6 awesome! It really makes the book come to life. Looking forward to your questions and comments on the classes and case studies.
@djlord9189
@djlord9189 6 жыл бұрын
Lifter problem wouldn’t be intermittent like that though. Intermittent sticking valve is my guess. Caused by binding valve guide, or weak valve spring.
@Sloppyjalopy123
@Sloppyjalopy123 6 жыл бұрын
Always gain something from your channel, thanks for sharing your knowledge. If you ever get the opportunity, I'd love to see your take on ECU tuning. Especially for a forced induction engine.
@niks983
@niks983 4 жыл бұрын
Stumbled on the channel today and it's awesome. Wife's 2008 caravan 3.3 has a intermittent cylinder 1 misfire. I did plugs and coil and it ran good for a day now the light is back on. I'm guessing I'm dealing with a lifter problem. Thing has 109000 and is a decent ride. When you first start it she idles a little rough but smooths out after a bit.
@KollynJ
@KollynJ 2 жыл бұрын
Is that what it was my car is doing the same plugs and coils don’t last
@dwainkowalske7800
@dwainkowalske7800 Жыл бұрын
I had almost the same problem on a 2000 dodge G/C the only difference was the misfire was sporadic but we couldn't recreate the misfire over several months and 2 trips into the shop. 3rd time being the charm my customer brought it in when it was actually misfiring. For the misfire to surface they had to be on there way home from work with lots of stop and go traffic and the temperature was above 85 degrees and still intermittent. After checking spark and fuel that were good, it had low compression on cylinder 3 with a leak down test proving it to be a bad exhaust valve. After removing the heads we could see the issue which was a hairline crack in cylinder 3 exhaust valve. After watching this I started to think what the vacuum gauge would show while doing a cylinder balance test. Next time I get a misfire like this I'm going to have to look at this just to see if there's anything of value in it. Thank you for the great videos you always have great content.
@jeffhesse8415
@jeffhesse8415 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Trying to catch that with a compression gauge isn't easy. I've been trying to get the guys I work with to do relative compression test because it is so quick and easy to do.
@billsmith2212
@billsmith2212 4 жыл бұрын
Auto Ditex has a unit that can do relative compression from the battery . Unsynched takes about a 10 second crank . Or you can connect an extra cable and synch the pattern . It's about $ 300.00 . Diagnose Dan has used it . No lab scope needed . They also have a lab scope and other test equipment .
@robertbell525
@robertbell525 5 жыл бұрын
Wife's van with the 3.3 is at 235K and still running great. A little rusty around the edges.
@rhkips
@rhkips 6 жыл бұрын
Everybody has their own favorite engine cleaning/flushing concoction, and this van would be a prime candidate for it! That intermittent compression issue is just screaming "sticky lifter" to me, and I'm all too familiar with the need to "keep it running" that commonly comes with vehicles in this condition. Idle it for half an hour with a quart of Dex III ATF (or other personal favorite), throw some fresh oil into it with a bit of [personal favorite], and ship that baby!
@stevehall9585
@stevehall9585 6 жыл бұрын
I had a few of these Vans and I had good luck got over two hundred thousand miles on both of them.
@darrylrossetti6496
@darrylrossetti6496 6 жыл бұрын
Always start at square one even if it had new parts and never assume the new parts are good. Found a bad brand new spark plug more than once.
@BigDog50001
@BigDog50001 6 жыл бұрын
The crusher is the appropriate fix for that vehicle....
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 6 жыл бұрын
the day it left the new car lot, or the factory assembly line :))
@xdygmnyrdf
@xdygmnyrdf 6 жыл бұрын
It will be shipped to some 3rd world country, and be driven around there, for a few more decades ;)
@nncoco
@nncoco 6 жыл бұрын
3rd world taxi or delivery van.
@monstersquashracing
@monstersquashracing 5 жыл бұрын
You have a unique ability. Thankyou so much for all the help
@jorbitz69
@jorbitz69 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, thank you for an another excellent learning video showing your technique of performing an on the spot diagnosis of an engine misfire through the process of elimination. While others may overlook, I also appreciate you taking the time to discuss the economics of maintaining an obviously beat up vehicle with a high mileage on its rap sheet vs looking at other viable options. This is huge. You just don't run a vehicle and expect it to work for you without giving the needed TLC. Wear and tear caught up with it and just feel sorry for the owner who probably was thinking that you could reverse it. Albeit, well done, my man.
@Inkd_watkins
@Inkd_watkins 6 жыл бұрын
Quick, efficient and effective. Time to move on. Great vid Paul.
@mr88talent
@mr88talent 5 жыл бұрын
At 3:37 Cylinder drop test. I had just replaced my coil with an aftermarket and the car was running no different than the old original coil. I did the cylinder drop test with a test light and after I did, the car was hard to start, but it did run once it started. Apparently I had damaged the new coil, so I put the original back in and it starts easily again. So beware, in my case this test damaged the coil.
@movingupautodiagnostics8645
@movingupautodiagnostics8645 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't been able to watch much since Hurricane María sent us back to the stone age, but now that I could watch this I have to thank youfor all your work. Shalom brother.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Shalom my friend. Are you okay now? Do you need anything?
@movingupautodiagnostics8645
@movingupautodiagnostics8645 6 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner We're ok thanks to The Almighty. We have no power and water comes and goes, I've been able to work on a local auto repair shop and we're slowly coming back on our feet.
@movingupautodiagnostics8645
@movingupautodiagnostics8645 6 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner We're ok thanks to The Almighty. We have no power and water comes and goes, I've been able to work on a local auto repair shop and we're slowly coming back on our feet.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you were doing videos now! And I didn't know you spoke Spanish. How many repair videos do you have up?
@movingupautodiagnostics8645
@movingupautodiagnostics8645 6 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner I have 13, and I'm from Puerto Rico, spanish is my first language. I have a TPS code video that I did with techniques I learned from you. Thanks for everything Paul. btw, I sent you a Google Hangouts invitation, check it out!
@lubacotemobile
@lubacotemobile 5 жыл бұрын
I run from people who drive a car for 150K miles with no maintenance and then want you to tell them what's wrong for free and fix it for $100 bucks.😕
@fgonzalez78959
@fgonzalez78959 5 жыл бұрын
Then when you find out more stuff is about to go out that will affect the first problem and you tell them...they always say " well you said this not that so now you want more"
@ufarkingicehole
@ufarkingicehole 4 жыл бұрын
"I thought you said it was part A. Now its B and C too? Well then" or " parts B and C were fine when i got here. You will fix B and C for free!"
@ryuhado7253
@ryuhado7253 3 жыл бұрын
sounds correct
@isorozco511
@isorozco511 2 жыл бұрын
I agree such fun work to do and potential to make money ruined by cheap ass hood customers who cry when you mention diag fees and always say “can you just take a look at it?”. Fuck them
@jc199159
@jc199159 Жыл бұрын
@@ufarkingicehole if it’s not part A then your diag wasn’t correct, how’s that the customers fault? If you said you fixed the problem, yet it continues, then you replaced a part that didn’t need it. This is why we have expensive lab scopes and shit, you don’t throw parts at a car and expect a fix, you find the problem and figure out the solution.
@holbrook8794
@holbrook8794 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this save me wasting money on ignition coils and fuel injectors on my z3... thank you so much. I do engine work in the Pittsburg, Ca bay area.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 4 жыл бұрын
I am in Pittsburgh, PA :-)
@MonzaRacer
@MonzaRacer 6 жыл бұрын
Frommy experience it possibly has a cracked spring, common in my area. They break and allow a random recurring misfire on single cylinder. IF repaired repalce all vs seals and springs. BUT car is beat, the estimated price of top end pull apart ie vc/intake/etc tell them to take repair costs and old car and trade on different car AFTER having car given an extended vehicle inspection with test drive.
@charlesgould8436
@charlesgould8436 2 жыл бұрын
I had to learn something before I could learn from your content. Thank you and Schrodinger!
@padraiggalvin2807
@padraiggalvin2807 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I wish if i could use my pico as good as you as im currently trying to find an intermittent missfire on an almost new engine
@LAU3768
@LAU3768 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your skills and video,you are the best diagnosis master.
@terryzak1742
@terryzak1742 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! Great job. Very impressive.
@SouthMainAuto
@SouthMainAuto 6 жыл бұрын
Nice find Paul. Gravy :D!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. O! I was told I should have given this van to you since you like them so much? Haha, don't know the background there but I'm sure it's good. Hope everything is well with you and you family. Thanks for dropping by.
@SouthMainAuto
@SouthMainAuto 6 жыл бұрын
Oh it is just because I work on so many soccer mom vans I get called the "Dodge Caravan Channel." Looked to be a classic broken exhaust valve spring. Been cool to see it through but if they are a toilet why go any further.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA! A wheeled toilet. I've owned my share of those over the years ... Loaf ... turd ... POS .... so many names for them! :D
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@devoncoolman88
@devoncoolman88 6 жыл бұрын
Im with eric on the broken ex valve spring. Seen it many times. Same on windstars.
@marcaineasunder
@marcaineasunder 6 жыл бұрын
I have that same problem on my 3.6l pentastar!i think you just solved my problem!i will keep you updated.Subscribed!
@NatureandSpirit111
@NatureandSpirit111 6 ай бұрын
Picoscope should hire this guy to run a lab class for them. I have this similar issue with a 5.7L tundra. Compression jumps around and vacuum steady although I did notice very small needle vibrations once in awhile. Wet and dry compression tests very inconsistent but I don’t think rings will cause that, I’m leaning toward valve issues of some kind. There is no noise like this one where it sounds like a lifter is being beat to death. And same issue across all cylinders.
@timothycooney986
@timothycooney986 4 жыл бұрын
Paul, please consider a video outlining requisite diagnostic instruments for HOME mechanic, including affordable scan tools. Thx
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
Super! Never a sync done on a waste spark system. Thanks!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@michaelovers688
@michaelovers688 5 жыл бұрын
Valve spring broke have seen this before intermittent missfire
@gearwrench877
@gearwrench877 6 жыл бұрын
omg i died @ butt face thank you for making my day
@davidmoore3813
@davidmoore3813 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but I gotta ask, why not do a cylinder leakdown? If nothing else it would eliminate culprits
@richardjohn5216
@richardjohn5216 Жыл бұрын
my same thoughts ,for next test,spark plug out ,number 3 on tdc,fill it up with air ,see were it goes,or stays sealed ,maybe chuck another engine in it ,then have lot spares
@robertjohnson4401
@robertjohnson4401 11 ай бұрын
I agree. That would be my next step.
@dwainkowalske3060
@dwainkowalske3060 9 ай бұрын
I had a dodge minivan with a 3.8 many years ago with a very intermittent misfire on cyl. 3 that it took months before they could get to the shop with it still miss firing. It turned out to be a cracked exhaust valve on cyl 3.
@abruptlyblunt
@abruptlyblunt Ай бұрын
i totally understand the conclusion a hydraulic lifter would be the only component in a valve train that could fluctuate but how you got to that conclusion is way above my tiny brain, inverting 6 to diagnose 3 or whatever you said, for me it's simple, it's a Chrysler, lift up the radiator cap and roll a new car under it....
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner Ай бұрын
😂
@peacepeace8739
@peacepeace8739 6 жыл бұрын
I just realise today that Ericthecarguy signed off about 3 months ago from uploading videos. I don't want the same thing happen to you my friend. Stop working too hard brother otherwise you will disappear too. I really want to share your videos with my friends and families but I am scared if they get better than me in this field. You are really an intelligent man and I love your work. I hope you don't be a stranger to us.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the concern. I'm certainly trying to find balance and it is difficult for sure. I can certainly relate to Eric and what he is dealing with.
@xr500t
@xr500t 3 жыл бұрын
I went through all the checks on a Jaguar x type. Had a misfire on 3. #, is on the firewall side and underneath the intake manifold. No way to access the coil or injectors without removal of the intake. Fuel checked out, Fuel trims out of whack, no vacuum leaks. I broke down took the intake off and removed #3 coil....as I removed it, I noticed a drop of water...I looked in to the tube and saw that the SP tube was 1/2 filled with water! took the rest of the coils off in that bank and the same thing! Not sure where the water came from, but I'd changed the intake Man gaskets a couple of weeks before and cleaned the area with degreaser, and rinsed. I thought I had thoroughly covered EVERYTHING with plastic. Car ran well for about two weeks, then the misfire. I bet it was running on 3 cylinders! Anyway, I dried everything and engine is running like a top. However, I'm still leery and wondering if there is a water passage on the head that is seeping. The "water" was not antifreeze as far as I could tell. I'm hoping that maybe it's water leaking down from the windshield washer nozzles or that maybe I didn't cover the engine as well as I thought I had and it took a while for the water to interfere with the plugs.
@justinspires9151
@justinspires9151 5 жыл бұрын
Some great comments but I think a lot of you missed where he said it runs fine on test drive. That points to lifter, not valve spring. Though I have seen a burnt valve produce similar compression results. Keeping in mind that the valve rotates in the seat as it opens and closes, and can produce intermittent bad compression.
@RzVids
@RzVids 5 жыл бұрын
How exactly?
@justinspires9151
@justinspires9151 5 жыл бұрын
@@RzVids In the most fundamental sense, friction. Imperfect surfaces coming into contact with one another repeatedly at high speed. Some engines are even designed to increase the rotation of the valve during its travel.
@robinsonsauto
@robinsonsauto 6 жыл бұрын
Nice troubleshoot Paul!! As always~ That's a tough call on this one. But face 😂
@patrickchamberlain5102
@patrickchamberlain5102 6 жыл бұрын
Like my Verus Pro...graphing shows you so much
@zharrold1able
@zharrold1able 5 жыл бұрын
2:11 - I thought coolant, engine, and transmission leaks were just a standard feature on Mopar vehicles. Lol. *Just a joke, Mopar fans!* Nice video, thanks for the helpful information.
@theoriginalmungaman
@theoriginalmungaman 3 жыл бұрын
Take it back or I’ll beat you about the head, face, neck and hands!
@robertoyzayda
@robertoyzayda 5 жыл бұрын
You are amazing, your knowledge is exceptional.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks,that is VERY nice; then it becomes guessing; need a compression test, with the old compression gauge, oil in the cylinder (don't think it's needed here, lol), and valve cover off.
@mph5896
@mph5896 6 жыл бұрын
Not that it could be related to this case. Had a 2005 Chevy w/ 3800 v6. Misfire only at idle. Checked fuel/spark and that was fine. Checked compression on all cylinders and got the same numbers within 10%. Stumped, I had to go into the engine. One of the cam lobes was slightly worn causing a misfire only at idle. Car ran perfectly over like 1200rpms.
@DeadofWinter321
@DeadofWinter321 6 жыл бұрын
m ph - It's a GM.
@mph5896
@mph5896 6 жыл бұрын
Same thing happens on other models. Dodge, ford, imports. And AFM/direct injection is making ICEs that much crappier. Gotta thank big governments fuel economy rules on that nonsense.
@Airman..
@Airman.. 6 жыл бұрын
m ph its there butt you cant feel it because of engines inertia yet its a definite loss of HP
@cruzdeleon1888
@cruzdeleon1888 5 жыл бұрын
m ph m ph thanks for your comment. I have an 09 2500 gmc sierra 6.0 motor with the p0306 code it has 137K miles. Changed coil and spark plug with no help. Took it to dealer they did compression test and found out cylinder 6 had low compression, they opened engine and said found a roughness on cam lobe on cylinder 6. In your case you mentioned it was slightly lower, so did you continue to drive it like that with no further issues? The reason I ask is because I don't know whether to replace engine or/ camshaft lifters or just drive it a few more. Truck runs fine other than a slight fluctuation at idle at the rpm guague but no stalling or roughness in startup. It doesn't make tick noise from lifters just a 'growl humm howl'- like noise when accelerating and decelerating. Thanks
@danhalfhill9169
@danhalfhill9169 6 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostics!! I'm so glad I don't work on those crappy Caravans anymore. Oh wait, gotta fix one next week....ugh. Well, it rare that I have have to fix them. Better than the Ford Aerostar, those uber-suck.
@johnszoke586
@johnszoke586 4 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive video, thanks for the information
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 6 жыл бұрын
Which is why you diagnose before throwing parts on something. No way is that thing worth fixing, but you're already in plugs, wires and a coil. Only thing maybe worth doing is telling the customer to try running a flush or some kerosene/ATF through in case crud in the engine/oil is jamming the lifters or something. Kill or cure. Might just be worth it if it goes another year or two before blowing up. Nice example Paul! Stay frosty!
@jamesrich8463
@jamesrich8463 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought 2007 dodge caravan sxt 3.3v6, seller said runs great, thing has been misfiring since i bought it month and half ago, shakes runs rough, gets a little better when warmed up, sounds like noisy lifter possibly clacking once warmed up only 102k on that one im driving now, gotta get it looked at runs like crap, shocks were bad replaced, struts are on the way out. I did all the plugs wires coil pack, changed power steering resevoir and fluid, changed air filter, cleaned mass air flow censor in air intake to throttle body with mass air flow sensor cleaner, removed throttle body and cleaned it and cleaned the idle air control valve of carbon wasn't to bad. No help van still runs like crap idles rough, the whole engine shakes when driving, no codes. engine is visibly shaking some when just idling from cold start up to, seems idle better parked after warmed up but then it has that fairly audible clacking sound like lifter or something. I could do pcv valve and egr valve..and other stuff like thorttle position sensor, map sensor but really i think its probably in the engine the prob, I hope not. FIrst guys i brought it to muffler shop said it runs fine, so um they were way wrong of course so i gotta bring it somewhere else where they going run real tests on it like this guy. I did notice when i changed the plugs that cylinder 6 on right front part looked dark like had oil or carbon build up on it for first half inch of the spark plug the other 5 cylinder spark plugs looked clean. Also the air conditioning condenser thingy when air conditioning on sometimes the whole muffler system shakes guess that could be on way out, overall i'd say most other things on the van are in good condition.
@brandondiaz4755
@brandondiaz4755 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 accord and its misfiring .. Took it to the shop they say they cant find the problem
@arthurfricchione6614
@arthurfricchione6614 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Paul for the quick response and great explanation. Appreciate Artie
@armandonika
@armandonika 6 жыл бұрын
While the engine turning since the valves also turn, maybe carbon deposits sometime dont let the valve close all the way!! 😏 Great video Paul!
@hxc7273
@hxc7273 6 жыл бұрын
That's exactly it. The valve is making and breaking the seal as it rotates. Assuming it comes and goes at a steady rate.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking a lifter issue. Sorry I didn't dig further. This was one of those "it's not worth it" vehicles to go any further.
@johnmckamy6398
@johnmckamy6398 6 жыл бұрын
sounds about right
@armandonika
@armandonika 6 жыл бұрын
+ScannerDanner probably is like you say!
@kevinedward1234
@kevinedward1234 6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@jhonatanalvarez05
@jhonatanalvarez05 Жыл бұрын
I wish to have this level of expertise...
@andrewhenrichs5038
@andrewhenrichs5038 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I would do work I personally own 2 of these it sounds like basic maintainable maintainance has not been done. The breaking issue is caused by heat warp unfortunately meaning with these and many other minivans you have to turn or replace the rotors every 6 months to a year. At this point it is a bit of an uphill battle its still cheaper than a new vehicle and if you are in need of something such as a caravan then its one of the better options.... Side note may recommend an odyssey just for the lower maintenance requirements.
@alfredomoris5008
@alfredomoris5008 6 жыл бұрын
Scanner danner is in another level☝
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really not but thank you
@alfredomoris5008
@alfredomoris5008 6 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner...you are worth your weight in gold..I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge with us. since spotting your channel i have learned more that ever before . And has helped me in my projects....I wish you and your family the best danner....thank you
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Alfredo!
@83mike860
@83mike860 3 жыл бұрын
05 dodge grand caravan sxt 3.8L 270k miles I just replaced all new seals ,injectors ,spark plugs, .. put all back to gather now misfire#5 .. (going to the shop).. but hey at least it don't leak and gas in oil not mixing .. always got to stay positive..
@mostlymoparih5682
@mostlymoparih5682 5 жыл бұрын
Good thing you qualified that POC comment. I drive a an 02 T&C Butt let's face it, it's another good won professor. Soooo .... Thumbs up. Tell the guy to do oil changes more often than 20 30 thousand mile intervals. Oh and nice partial view of God's country in the background at the end of the vid.
@bobbastion7335
@bobbastion7335 5 жыл бұрын
Soooo, the number 3 was losing compression intermittently but (face) with a regular frequency? Which would indicate that the hydraulic lifter is collapsing? I don't get it Big Dan.
@NobodyAskedForThis
@NobodyAskedForThis 6 жыл бұрын
Valves rotate as the open/close. I would definitely check the exhaust/intake. There could be a seating issue that comes about as the valve rotates. Of course, could be a lifter or something else. Could be a valve sealing issue though.
@dylankinch2735
@dylankinch2735 6 жыл бұрын
NothingSpecial if it was a valve sealing issue u would think u would se it every time not just intermittently. I could be wrong but it just seems logical to me.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too Dylan but others are saying the same thing, some from carbon deposits. I would say if that was the case, it would have been an exhaust valve not an intake valve, since vacuum was good and steady on the gauge.
@NobodyAskedForThis
@NobodyAskedForThis 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen intake valves carbon up. Possibly because of valve overlap, not completely sure about that but I've definitely seen it.
@NobodyAskedForThis
@NobodyAskedForThis 6 жыл бұрын
I must have missed the vacuum gauge part. Most likely not a valve issue. I agree.
@neutrodyne
@neutrodyne 4 жыл бұрын
A simple compression tester would have probably told us the same thing. If it was mine I would pull the valve cover off and take a look. If I had to pay a mechanic for his time I may have a different attitude about it. My guess as was mentioned earlier by someone else is that it probably has a broken valve spring which should not be that hard to replace if you can get to it.
@R.E.HILL_
@R.E.HILL_ 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one. Not including what happened to this gem of a vehicle, is borderline cruel...
@nigelclark7360
@nigelclark7360 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the car needs to go to a vechicle rest home for the rest of it's life. All good stuff Excellent.
@graz-e.m.s
@graz-e.m.s 6 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic lifter getting gummed up from lack of service most probably. Get some paraffin in the oil, run it up for about a half hour then oil n filter change.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
That was my thought. Now how to prove that without tearing everything apart was why I stopped. Not to mention we did not have the okay to go any further. Sorry about that. I would have liked to have known for sure myself.
@PackardBelltoll
@PackardBelltoll 6 жыл бұрын
put some marvel mystery into it see that fixes the problem . If not you know u need to dig deeper.
@joemonroe9456
@joemonroe9456 5 жыл бұрын
Those rear heads lose oil flow.
@joemonroe9456
@joemonroe9456 5 жыл бұрын
@anonymous Yes.
@michaelelliott289
@michaelelliott289 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, it may have started due to the insulation of that injector at that cylinder. It's always happens at cylinder that is closest to the firewall.
@danielisasume
@danielisasume 5 жыл бұрын
learned alot about the picoscope great vid very informative
@zbynekm2918
@zbynekm2918 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, I'll be definitely watching more, I believe I'm hooked.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jimenezautorepair4450
@jimenezautorepair4450 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr danner yes everything is good now. Since I logged in with me and my wife's Facebook account lol. But everything is good now and happy I will see you're very good videos you're the best teacher I ever had. Big THANK YOU MR. DANNER and to you're son that he's helping you do the videos say hi to him for me thanks .
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Really appreciate you being a SD Premium subscriber.
@chadman2275
@chadman2275 6 жыл бұрын
Girlfriend's Jeep was a mess random and o3 04 06 cylinder replaced coil rail plugs and new injectors used a good motul engine flush and my God did that help the sludge cut free and she runs good have not had a code since
@dawsonjorgensen3521
@dawsonjorgensen3521 11 ай бұрын
I cant say how many cars ive had that caused an intermittent missfire even after i did everything to them. sometimes i would hear a slight tic noise, happened on my chevy tahoe with a sbc, 1 other wierd thing i noticed was if you slightly touched the throttle and held it, the rpm needle would stop and go stop and go through the sweep, replacing the lifters solved it, now my best educated theory on why a lifter would do this is accessively worn lifter tolerances, becoming even worse as rpms increase the lifter will collapse more and reduce camshaft duration as well as lift, and late valve timing events, theres just no way you could ever catch that on a compression tester snce it reades the maximum compression that cylinder produced, and not individual compression cycles produced.
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 6 жыл бұрын
I'd try some seafoam in the oil to see if it frees up. Maybe a top cylinder clean if carbon is suspected.
@sinegra30
@sinegra30 6 жыл бұрын
I did not get how you were able to graphic individual cylinders compresion on your scanner tool
@totalyep
@totalyep 5 жыл бұрын
He was measuring the current to the starter motor. Current is proportional torque for electric motors. Torque increases during the compression stroke.
@Advantgarded
@Advantgarded 6 жыл бұрын
im bending in dust, god damn your a good mechanic... best regards from a vw/porsche mechanic in denmark
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I really appreciate your kinds words.
@ironfistarrival
@ironfistarrival 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Danner , please explain the tools you used and what they do , how you use them ? You were so quick in using your tools without any prior explanations ... Thanks ..
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
please watch the related videos listed in the description of this video. It will help you a lot. Thanks!
@Ashroyer86
@Ashroyer86 5 жыл бұрын
@anonymous get his premium channel and watch all his videos. You will learn a lot.
@newacinvention3951
@newacinvention3951 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent call
@deepbludude4697
@deepbludude4697 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Troubleshooting skills!
@habatroll4831
@habatroll4831 6 жыл бұрын
Paul I recently purchased a Pico 4425 kit. It is awesome by the way. I enjoy your videos and I am learning quite a bit from them. Quick question, I noticed the spark event was after TDC, do you recall if there was a timing issue? I was just wondering because I am not sure if I was looking at it properly. Thanks for all of your hard work.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
timing slightly ATDC is common during cranking
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