Jonatan Octosa Napitupulu It is a great story. What every Man United fan dreamed of but forgets too quickly. Paul Scholes is one of the greatest and all the greats say it.

We’d have won it anyway. Nice story but not required.

City won the league that year

Hargreaves Barry Carrick too.

433 would've been an obvious formation except at the time England were totally wedded to a 442

Blaming everthing on David Beckham also bad thing...

Moonlight Sculptor Yep, that’s wrong. Way too much pressure on one man who wasn’t the best player in the team, just an icon and the captain. Becks done a great job during them years. If we played the midfield right we would have done far better.

@@moonlightsculptor3781 OMG you said it all and i am still in pain for the loss as a result of Beckham shown a red card. If Beckham wasnt taken out there was no way Argentina could have won, even 10 Man England battled to the end, it was one of the saddest moment in world cup football.

lmao

Mas A pmsl

😂😂😂😂

He’s at The club shop buying a new set of kits

😂😂😂😂oh my.

Technician the Producer Lampard was not an attacking midfielder. He played deep for Chelsea the same way Scholes did, but he would arrive late in the box to finish of moves that he started off. Not an attacking midfielder at all. He ended playing deeper for Chelsea when the likes of Ramires, mata and Hazard came and he was still quality and aged a lot better than Gerrard ever did. Lampard scores 15 goals at 34 years old playing in a 2 man midfield and we won the europa league

There is a big difference in me saying attacking Midfielder and Attack MINDED. Attack-minded means his focus was always higher up the pitch and essentially in and around the opposition box. CR7 is essentially a winger but his attack-minded mentality means he almost plays as a second striker. Mata is currently United's Right winger but he drifts centrally due to him being a natural number 10. Positions don't usually mean much when a style of play has been ingrained into a player

Why I think Gerrard is the best because he is the only one of the three who can produce all of the qualities that you mentioned. He scored bangers at the most crucial of times, he could also dictate a game with his passing and get an assist out of nothing from a 40 yard pass and like you said he’s box to box, can defend like a world class CDM and attack like a world class CAM. Gerrard is the only one who could do it all.

bradley doyle Couldn’t agree more. Stevie could do it all really. Between 2005-2009 he was one of, if not the best midfielder in the World. He was an absolute machine and such a great leader, and he did it whilst playing alongside such mediocre teammates unlike Scholes and Lampard.

Lampard could do everything Gerrard did except he wasnt the best defender but he didnt need to with the teammates around him

Callum6355 and please don't tell me Kyle Walker is better than Carvajal or Dani Alves because you'll be making a fool out of yourself.

Callum6355 On what basis? To be a great player you need to prove it against the best and on the highest level. He cost Man City the Wigan game. He cost England the Iceland game. He's never played in a quarter final of the champions league and part of a Spurs team who bottled it. Playing against Basel and the poor premier league sides when you have 80% possession isn't anything special about him. If he gets to play Vs Ronaldo/Marcelo, Iniesta/Alba and Ribery/Alaba and plays well then I'll come back here and agree with you. Or if he keeps Hazard quiet in the world cup group stage. Until then, he's overrated and unproven.

Callum6355 Alves, Carvajal, Vrsaljko, Valencia, Juanfran, De Marcos, Meunier, Kimmich, here's 8. I could go through the whole Italian and Spanish league who have fantastic fullbacks.

Alexander Arnold

Callum6355 Valencia carvajal Alves kimmich

England never a team. Just overhyped individuals

That was weird wasn't it?

"Steven Gerrard is England's best ever player" -Lionel Messi , Best player of All Time. No more argument.

@@Mr7Cavalier7 😂😂😂

CavalierValtz “there is no doubt scholes is in a class of his own” Zidane “In the last 10-15 years the best central midfielder the most complete is scholes” xavi “At arsenal me and viera didn’t want to face scholes. We’d avoid him” petit “Without a doubt the best player in the premiership is scholes” Henry “I want to pass like him who taught him how to pass like that?” Ronaldinho “He’s the phenomenon” R9 Reporter asked zidane what it’s like being the best player in the world his reply “why don’t you ask Paul scholes” I can keep going if you want?

@@slugs1043 i can keep going about great players talking about steven gerrard aswell. But tell me 1 player (who praises scholes) that is a greater player than lionel messi then i'll listen to him -Lionel Messi , end of the debate And there is a reason why scholes has never even gotten a single vote in ballon dor nor FWPOY. Which gerrard has placed 3rd once with countless top 10 finishes

CavalierValtz pele

He quit.

TS May You're right, he did. He quit because he was fed up of a useless manager who didn't respect his ability and didn't know hiw to utilise his talent.

That's a bad attitude, and, with the abundance of talent in central midfield, he did the manager a favour.

TS May An abundance of talent that won Steven Gerrard zero league titles.

Red Squirrel think that was more the lack of talent around him at Liverpool than it was him. People forget, he did single Handedly win a champions league with djimi traore playing left back

How many Penalties though? I really really like lampard a lot as someone who hates Chelsea I can't say a bad word about lampard but that being said him scored endless penalties doesn't make him better than scholes

Azz McMilly “Scholes couldn’t tackle... Gerrard was complete”... Lampard was a second striker behind Drogba in the best team at the time, no wonder he got loads of goals! 🙄

And most of his goals is penalties

@@abdiaabdullahi2295 dumb, 30 of them were

Tdoggy - I remember watching him at Ipswich Town. Bovril, a burger and a sense of dread as we knew he was leaving.

@ismail adam Henry picked Scholes. Scholes was effortless.

Yeah.. Hippia, Reina, Kyut, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Aurelio, Suarez, Riise, Fowler, Garcia, Baros etc. A one man team. Yes, hurray. Gerrard is one of the most overrated players in English football history.

explains why he never won the PL

@@jimclawley7503 huh? what are you on about? I think your mind might be "slipping" here!

With Beckham, England could only play 4-4-2. Without, 4-3-3 would have been possible, with two of Gerard, Lampard and Scholes playing in front of a holding midfielder. Gerard actually played one of his best games for England in defensive midfield. So it would have been possible for Lampard and Scholes to play in front of Gerard if Gerard had had the right attitude.

Means in most parts of Scholes game it was abit better than Gerrard's. Gerrard was better at tackling

Disagree I say lampard he was just something else

@@ta8258 they both were don't get me wrong but I'd rather Gerrard because he's more complete

Zidane said Gerrard was best in world for a time. Scholes was best ‘creatively’ and going forward but only 50% of CMs job!!

Gerrard was better all round easy, but xavi and Zidane can't tackle and theyre by far superior

@@TwoAwesomeKids34 'by far'? Zidane and Xavi will go down as two of the best in their position, especially Zidabe in history so far. But I wouldn't exactly say they were 'far better'. Gerrard was sought by some of the biggest clubs and its fair to say he would have gotten into any team and made a difference. There are reasons why some players list him as the best they've played against or with. Alonso has outright said Gerrard was better than him, a player who played alongside Xavi and Iniesta, who played for arguably the best international side in modern history and won the biggest trophies on the biggest stages. Gerrard was one in a thousand who stuck with a club despite their skill or potential, its what arguably made him even better for it. Look at LeTissier. I'm all for anyone saying Zidane was the best or one of, but to state that its 'by far' to another top top player with different assets - is a stretch.

@@mike_nelson no it's not Gerrard was class, but the argument that he could do everything is not a bonus as there was a better player than him in every position. The fact that xavi and Zidane were miles better is because theyre the two greatest of all time and they were that much better, not because Gerrard was bad. Zidane made everyone look stupid and xavi was untouchable with how he consistently provided assists. Gerrard could do both of these but not as good as others. He never really had a specific job. He's better than lampard easily, but scholars was better than him imo, because he was a different type of player. Gerrard could run at people and bang one in but there were lots of top players who could do this, where as scholes was someone who completely controlled games, something which very few players have been able to do, which is why he was vital to United success, his stats aren't as good as Gerrard's or lampards, but he played a massive part in every trophy United won, and unless Gerrard scored the winning goal, was something he was unable to do

Adam Smith He picked some unusual players. Thought he may have put Nolberto Solero in - he did very well at Villa and at Newcastle. Also, you need a gk on small pitches, so I think he mucked up with that, it's easy to score from the halfway line in 5-a-side if there's no goalie!

Got to love how he basically said England didn't have a good keeper. That and the manager is the main reason England didn't go further imo

regan Didn't he have Shay Given at Newcastle and Richard Wright at Ipswich?!

Gregory's Goals I know he played with given. Not too sure on Wright, probably did tho. Either way, neither of them weren't great.

@@lifegoals9528 I know I’m late but I swear shay given is irish

Are you blind and death? He said Scholes was the best.

kmninx so the FA cup and the champions league just don't exist?

No its cause he was a good player in a great team. Gerrard and lampard were much much better individuals

Andy Pandy no they weren't, you can say that but it doesn't make it true, it's like you didn't even read what I said. I'm sorry but I don't value your opinion over Theirry Henry, Zidane, Xavi, all these say he was the best and their opinion matters more than yours because they were at that level.

fearfatch have you seen Scholes individual stats to Gerrard and Lampard? Scholes stats got nothing to Gerrard and Lampard

Muhammad Husein Lampard has more goals than Zidane as well, doesn't mean he was better.

I've made my point in my initial post, give all the excuses you want, the opinions that matter most are those who have actually been there. Not going to keep responding to nonsense.

because fergie knew how good he really was.

Age is a factor given he played so long whereas Gerrard and lampard jumped ships to lower leagues

Ali Safeer Hyder eh? He was dropped for the CL semi final in ‘99 against Juve for Nicky Butt (often hailed as the greatest Man Utd performance ever), and a few other huge games at that time - notably Leeds when they were a great side. Butt was often picked alongside Keane for harder games! Nothing to do with age my friend!

@@brentmeistergeneral6074 sorry mate but didn't he come up as a sub at the 68th minute in the Juventus champions league semi final 1999?? Other than that the Leeds game isn't in my mind but I'm pretty sure he was either tired or had a card on him to be dropped

Ali Safeer Hyder no he was dropped a few times for being a defensive liability. Same as the CL final when they played Barcelona and he was dropped for Park!

growing up yes

the only reason he is not in the team is because he is Welsh.......

Chris Gerrard haha, yeah right. Gerrard was a decent English midfield player. Not even in the same world as Iniesta, Zidane, Figo, Xavi, Scholes, Pirlo and others who were from that era.

Gregory's Goals most deluded comment I’ve ever seen.

After 2000- I’d personally have Zidane a level above them - after that other wise I think kaka , Gerrard , Giggs, figo, beckham , iniesta , xavi (because of the Barcelona team ) Vieira, Ronaldinho were the best midfielders , pirlo, scholes etc weren’t on the same level

Chris Gerrard do you also write in English?

Gregory's Goals lay off the sniff kid

Its a symbolic description. Meaning 'Grand', 'Classy', 'Majestic' etc

The Best

Jonathan Thacker every pundit will say similar if not word for word what one another says, the difference here is he's played with them unlike most pundits.

Couldn’t tackle...

Andrew Vance you absolutely right. Scholes don’t like street football where there is so much body contact just like me I don’t like the tussle and bad tackling but when I get the ball it’s magical and dangerous like scholes the only difference between us is am a formidable striker and he is attacking midfielder just like Lufta Matthias of Germany

@@brentmeistergeneral6074 would you just stop. We know you hate scholes.

lemon flappy i absolutely love Scholes. I’m responding to the initial thread which is slating Gerrard and Lampard and making out that Scholes was the ‘all round’ player when clearly he was a passer and visionary genius but a poor defender; so not so ‘all round’!

@@brentmeistergeneral6074 he was a all round player with the ball. But if you have to rank them then what is your ranking

They drop lampard dude, and not qualify for euro, ironic

@@yusufsygenta sure they didn't, maybe they should have played 4-3-3 with lampard but they insisted with 4-4-2. Tactical inflexibility and lack of innovation held back England's "golden generation".

@@yusufsygenta that's why when Gerrard and scholes played together they won 5 1 against Germany

Agree with you mostly, but people often ignore that in the knockout stages of WC 06 England did play 4-3-3/4-5-1, though I'm reluctant to give Sven too much credit for that because Owen was injured😂 But I guess fair play for dropping the only fit striker in Crouch

@@youngstars4144 We were at our best in euro 2004 imo. We wouldn't have won WC 06 anyway when you think about it, would have been France in semis and Italy in final (nah we wouldn't have won both of them)..HOWEVER, what I really meant and what I say to people mates etc. Is that we would have won euro 2004 hands down playing the right system because Scholes would have been deep lying (in which he was THE BEST IN THE WORLD AT) in the midfield three instead of being on LEFT WING ffs! Would have also settled Gerrard and Lampard in front and sorted that out. Rooney cutting in from the left (arguably more dangerous with pace as well at the time) and that leaves Beckham a bit further up the pitch on the right with Owen up front. We would have been indestructible! Bit he had Scholes on left mid! It's criminal! An out of form Holland relatively off the pace from what I saw in the semis (who Portugal comfortably beat) and then Greece in the final!

@@marshallbrennan370 Under the circumstances (Owen/Beckham injured, JT suspended, Rooney suspended/nowhere near fit) I'm with you, I don't think we would have stood a chance. However the lineup against Portugal, with Rooney on fire, maybe. Either way, should have beaten Portugal. 10000% agreed that they would have won EURO 2004 (first time I watched football which is why that hurts the most) with a different formation, though imo they probably should have won it even playing 4-4-2😂To start with, Campbell's goal against Portugal. I also completely remember Holland being absolute shite in the knockout stages (after being a joy in the groups), so England probably would have taken them down even without Wayne. Same for Greece. Having said all that, I still feel the Czechs were the best team at that tournament and arguably not even a proper formation and Rooney might have been enough to stop them if they'd had Nedved (who's injury was just as big a tragedy as Rooney's) Not quite on board with your suggestion that Rooney would have been so destructive from the left. Where I have a little bit of sympathy here is that Owen and Beckham were woefully off form, but he couldn't drop the captain/icon/Real Madrid man nor the only Ballon d'or winner in god knows how many years. Maybe a kind of diamond with Beckham providing width on the right and Cole/Gerrard/Rooney on the left? Though, unlike in 2006, when Rooney got injured he replaced him with Vassell (or Heskey?), when he could have brought on Hargreaves or Joe Cole

England played their best football under Sven FACT!

gerrard is the liverpool greatest ever player. he carried liverpool for 15 years.

nah mate, not slippy G

Portgas - Shonen Anime I hope you are talking about PL only because what about Xavi, Iniesta, Kroos and Modric?

of course lmao. Those players have a league of their own xD

Portgas - Shonen Anime Pogba, KDB and Fabinho.

pogba? really? He hasn't shown much honestly

Portgas - Shonen Anime Pogba has the ability, it's just that Mourinho needs to let him flourish more and have some freedom. He has one of the best passing abilities of a Midfielder, He is pretty strong, very skillful and also he has good shooting technique. I think he can be the modern day Gerrard or Lampard but he doesn't have defensive discipline.

Ronaldo Owino Scholes is not better than both of them, individually it's just a fact You are deluded United Fans

Opinion not fact, individually Gerrard and Lampard have him for breakfast

Muhammad Husein loooooooooooool

T. Driller loooooooooooooooool

Liam Berry loooooooooooooooool

Eric Cantona can’t really say “end of debate” when no one was talking to you. You just randomly started talking about a play that isn’t relevant to the video. Kieron played with lampard, gerrard and scholes and they are call central midfielders so that’s why they are mentioned in the video. Bobby charlton was an attacker that finished playing before dyer even started...

Bobby Charlton won champions league that's it

Eric Cantona Phil Neal of Liverpool have 4 CL titles to his name.Cantona has zero and you consider him a legend.ManU has only 3 CL titles.His PL titles mean horseshit.Europe counts.Look how many titles Rangers have.Who cares for domestic titles.

minotauruskt me I care pl first bread and butter, Europe second.

Eric Cantona Scholes>SBC>lampard>gerrard

the problem is not about the player, it is the manager who cant use gerrard, lampard, and scholes to the fullest; Beside that they cant get rid their club rivalry because how poor the manager was

Ryan Giggs is who they needed. Always struggled with the left wing.

Suarez Bess English passer in 40 years

Jason Hellens right ok...

Suarez from best to worse it goes lampard,gerrard and schoels

Jason Hellens Gerrard and Scholes are both better than Lampard?

Mate he was the best passer, a great goalscorer, he could control the game

Not as good as scholes

Bore off

@meme me and Chelsea