Schopenhauer - BBC In Our Time Podcast

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Dejan Bašić

Dejan Bašić

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Melvyn Bragg and guests AC Grayling, Beatrice Han-Pile and Christopher Janaway discuss the dark, pessimistic philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer.As a radical young thinker in Germany in the early 19th century, Schopenhauer railed against the dominant ideas of the day. He dismissed the pre-eminent German philosopher Georg Hegel as a pompous charlatan, and turned instead to the Enlightenment thinking of Immanuel Kant for inspiration. Schopenhauer's central idea was that everything in the world was driven by the Will - broadly, the ceaseless desire to live. But this, he argued, left us swinging pointlessly between suffering and boredom. The only escape from the tyranny of the Will was to be found in art, and particularly in music. Schopenhauer was influenced by Eastern philosophy, and in turn his own work had an impact well beyond the philosophical tradition in the West, helping to shape the work of artists and writers from Richard Wagner to Marcel Proust, and Albert Camus to Sigmund Freud.AC Grayling is Professor of Philosophy at Birkbeck College, University of London; Beatrice Han-Pile is Professor of Philosophy at the University of Essex; Christopher Janaway is Professor of Philosophy at the University of Southampton.
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@billscannell93
@billscannell93 Жыл бұрын
From the little I know about Schopenhauer, I don't think he deserves his reputation as the "darkest philosopher ever." There is an element of compassion to his thinking that is completely lacking in Nietzsche's, for example. I enjoyed the podcast!
@thumpertieder8110
@thumpertieder8110 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@ersbay5970
@ersbay5970 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. None other than Schopenhauer gives me solace in this insanely cruel world. That literally!
@No_Avail
@No_Avail Жыл бұрын
It's the prose that uplifts, combined with the experienced _resonance_ of it all, neglected by nearly everyone else. This can be distinguished from the _contents_ of any specific idea he put forth, including compassion. Nietzsche was probably motivated, and subsequently over-motivated, to carve out his own philosophical identity atop and in direct opposition to "the teacher" he gushed over not that long before. He turned clownish and barky in the process, at least in my view.
@kennythelenny6819
@kennythelenny6819 9 ай бұрын
@@No_Avail Literally died due to depressing his cns with chloral hydrate and whiskey. I think he could not accept the nihilism and wanted to overcome depression almost as if swimming upstream against a wave. I think Schoppys philosophy is the way to go. It does not cast a burden on you and validates your down times when feeling overwhelmed.
@beateziegler7476
@beateziegler7476 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I don't agree with the term 'self denial' for this idea of 'enlightenment' or 'giving up the ego'. It is instead the realization, that 'doing' does not lead to goals implemented (happiness, fulfillment...) . Self denial sounds so negativ and hard to do. Meanwhile 'world realization' is probably what happens - that whatever you do, doesn't help...
@josetamariz9388
@josetamariz9388 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, great talk!
@chriswilkes4350
@chriswilkes4350 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Melvin Bragg had his heart in this. He seems bored and confused at the beginning, and then at the end completely messes up the timing, and cuts everyone off. The commentators, on the other hand, are terrific, and it's well worth a listen.
@billscannell93
@billscannell93 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was really strange. He could have at least let her finish what she was saying. I wanted to hear her explain what Camus borrowed from Schopenhauer about absurdity and the ultimate pointlessness of life!
@chriswilkes4350
@chriswilkes4350 Жыл бұрын
@@billscannell93 Good point.
@robertburatt5981
@robertburatt5981 Жыл бұрын
I disagree about the "infinitity" of the Will: for example sexuality; there comes a time in human life when sexuality no longer places intense incessant pressure in pursuit of the "reproductive act". It gradually withers to a degree that places it under a control that, in the best cases, extends freedom, sobers judgment, and deepens responsibility and involvement in other persons in a way that is not any longer a pinpoint focus on the reproductive act, but carries a maturation of closely related qualities hitherto kept in abeyance and distorted by earlier periods where the reproductive act is the dominant, underlying motive. This maturation, at least in the best cases, need not lead to boredom of the chronic kind, because the playing field, so to speak, has become significantly extended by freedom that presents opportunities for a far richer fabric of living with a vitality known in much earlier years. Without appearing cynical, perhaps Schopenhauer's "end state" or "ultimate goal" tor the Will is--total entropy!
@user-qn2fr5vb5k
@user-qn2fr5vb5k Жыл бұрын
Alles Leben Leiden ist
@jojokintel
@jojokintel Жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@jojokintel
@jojokintel Жыл бұрын
Infinite and meaningless.....but God?
@akelofgren9468
@akelofgren9468 Жыл бұрын
TO YELL 3 TIMES A DAY ON MEN IS VERY HEALTHY(THEY DID MUCH WORSE AGAINST ME
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