Yesterday I turned 50. The past year has been a turning point in my life, when I started to realise that every episode of trauma, crisis, conflict, challenges and depression I've faced have bought me tremendous insight and understanding, although I didn't realise it at the time. Now I can see why these things occured and what advantage they have brought me now I no longer feel like a victim with self-pity. On the contrary now, every day I thank Divine Providence for bringing me these experiences and I see the knowledge I gained as a gift which can be turned into wisdom. So many times I felt like life was meaningless and too hard and almost gave up. My advice to anyone reading this going through bad times is to keep on going. Don't give up. Try to see the challenges and how you face them as lessons. Learn as much as you can about as many subjects as you can, especially spiritual wisdom and quantum physics. Watch and learn from nature. All the answers are there. Love and light H

Gabor may not feel that subtle energy, but he certainly radiates it. In our arguably disconnected and overly rationalistic culture, I consider his honesty, compassion, and humility to be far more valuable and easy to connect with, feel, and appreciate than I could with any spiritual abilities.

Gabor Mate has honesty, openness and an inquisitiveness that shines SO brightly and has inspired me and taught me for years. I'm very grateful to him.

Gabor Mate is such a wonderful person, with his gentle sense of humor and such moderation.

What draws me to Dr Gabor Mate is his incredibly high display of sincerity, he seems to be truly engaged in the present.

"and so rock bottom became the solid foundation on which I rebuilt my life." -J.K. Rowling Rebuilt (spirituality)♥

Regarding the exploitation of followers by their gurus, put no human being on a pedastal. Take from their teachings what serves you but give up your authority or self to no one. Each human is on their own soul’s path and as such each human has much to learn while on this plane of existence. I am so grateful to Gabor for being so direct in confronting this issue. Very good discussion.

Gabor, your vulnerability is palpable and healthy. ♡

Dr mate is already enlightened and doesn’t realize it the gift knowledge he shares with so many is the evidence of that he is very much awake it’s just unique experience for each person💫

Eckhart Tolle does mention Trauma but his description is the pain body. He speaks in depth about pain from childhood being stored up within us and being triggered by conditions that are different for all of us. Thank you Dr. Mate for your work in Trauma

WOW THIS IS SUCH a good point about spiritual teachers not addressing trauma, not even knowing what it is! We really need more spiritual teachers who come from the experience of trauma!

Love these two! Never expected to see them together

Waiting for a talk between Dr. Mate & Eckart Tolle..that would be the ultimate conversation!

Finally these two topics being explored together. Spirituality and trauma. Sometimes severe trauma places us in disembodied spiritual state. Living a real life, day to day, along with an embodied integrative practice to me holds the potential of unification between spirit 'I am', and matter (movement, emotions, life). There is a place where trauma and spirituality meet... I call it embodiment.

‘Silence isn’t just the lack of sound.’ I understood this recently- silence is this state of quietness that you can slip into regardless of noise, light and chaos around you. I’ve found myself in turbulent situations and intense physical noise but I’m still able to tap into that stillness.

Two of my favorite people in the entire world. Thank you so much for this!!

Of these two---- to me Gabor is the actual "spiritual" being. He "embodies" seeking and being spiritual. He makes sense to mu gut--- always.

He who talks the loudest often says nothing. Gabor is a legend.

Now that I’ve watched more of this interview, I SUPER appreciate Gabor bringing up trauma, spiritual bypassing and sexual impropriety. Awesome. Thank you.

I agree with Gabor Mate about brining the subject of trauma into the spiritual domain. To acknowledge it at the very least. There are many of us living with trauma trying to practice meditation with devotion to the point of actually abusing ourselves. Trauma is on the blindspot of spiritual teachings which makes one dealing with trauma even more ashamed. I know that it needs to be addressed by other ways but it would be really helpful to support our practice by encouraging us perhaps a bit differently. Especially that people suffering from trauma are indeed very motivated in going beyond their personalities so there are a high number of us who are affected by the lack of empathy/understanding in the spiritual community. So thank you Gabor Mate for bringing this up. Finally someone did it.

Dr Gabor's sense of humor reminds me a lot of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's. It's SO delightful. Also--what bravery it took to ask Adyashanti so directly about the sexual abuse within the spiritual community. I've never heard someone ask those questions, but I have always wanted to know the answer. Thank you Dr Gabor. Your teachings might not look like all the other spiritual teachers', but they are grounded in so many of our lived experiences. You can find enlightenment in the cosmos, for sure, but you can find it in the soil beneath your feet, too. Köszönöm!

I would love to hear a conversation like that between Eckhart Tolle and Gabor Mate! This would be really great

Gabor became an outlier despite immense pressure from his peers, he is such a humble human spirit and has no idea how we all benefit from his humanity.

Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="60">1:00</a>:39: REPRESSION, DENIAL & HONESTY. Gloria Steinen: “The truth will liberate you, but first it will piss you off.” I wish Gabor had asked him about the so-called negative feelings we tend to repress to be 'spiritually correct'.

I've been listening to Adya some for a while, and he's given me some good insights and meditations, and I just found Gabor and have been enjoying some of his talks. Listening to this I was thinking, "What a delightful conversation between two people trying to learn but with a interviewer/interviewee dynamic." When I started reading the comments, it was disturbing how many people are full of judgment and acting as if there is some opposition here. All I sense is mutual respect and love between them.

These two people coming together is spectacular. So grateful

Adya has helped transform my life and Falling into Grace was such a profound book to me!!

Two of the most authentic people I know of. Humble, grounded and honest 🌹

Dr Mate, you attributed the quote to a president but in fact it was Gloria Steinem who said, “The truth will liberate you, but first it will piss you off.”

The only one who made sense to me here was Gabor. I also admired his totally "listening" body posture and searching for truths questions.

I could listen to these two talking all day.

What a gem. How great these two interacted and there is video of the exchange! Total gift :)

Yes, it is relaxing to accept that I can't stop my mind, but I can replace the thoughts with awareness of breathing and being simply present.

I have had the sense of a spiritual connection a few times, in places and with people. It's nothing I can control.

To people who are talking about Adyashanti, maybe it is not Adyashanti but our conception of who Adyashanti is in our minds. I mean we project an image of him as "this" and when we finally see the reality of it, we get disappointed, we say he is fake or not enlightened. My point is, this whole spiritual journey in my understanding is to become "aware", to be aware what our mind is telling us including our biases, judgement, fears, projections, ambitions, as this is part of our conditioning. "We are all just walking each other home" Let us not be judgemental because it is the same Ego telling us its own projections.

Super enjoyable talk, i like and respect both of these men immensely

Dr Gabor mate should talk with Ken Wilber, waking up, growing up, cleaning up, and lastly showing up.

One of the best talks I've heard in such a long time.... 2 spiritual greats.... thank you.

There is definitely energetically positive & negative feelings I get around people & places. I think the people able to connect to that feeling are empathic due to years of practice & training, either from meditation leading to self awareness or from abuse/trauma requiring the skill to simply survive.

INFJ here. Who else is hanging out, enjoying this conversation?

Meditation and watching my mind has never worked for me on a deeper level. But by listening to Dt Maté, I now understand the reasons for my lifelong depression, feelings of loneliness, fears and anxieties, and have been able to heal by allowing myself to re-connect to my instincts and the emotions that go back to my childhood. Thank you for your work, Dr Maté! It has changed my life! “Being honest with yourself “ is not easy because, as Dr Maté says, we learned from a very early age, to suppress those emotions and parts of ourselves that were too painful to experience as vulnerable children just wanting to attach to those who were caring for us.

Great point by Adyashanti: "Englightenment is defined simply by powerful moments is a misconception." Yes, and I would also agree with his idea that spiritual work is more like medicine than an intellectual statement. However, when I see him talk to people like Oprah, I feel like he sells his brand of spirituality like it's some emotional "ah ha" moments. Mate tries to dig deeper into the essence of spirituality, beyond the dopamine hit "feel good" moments and IS trying to see is it as a form of medicine as well. That's why I think he brought up the point about trauma, since trauma can be considered the greatest psychological and emotional wound (or disease) one can suffer from. Yet, Adyashanti is alluding that trauma should be treated by therapy, not necessarily spiritual teachings. It's almost as if he's trying to relinquish the responsibility of spiritual work healing trauma. If it's not there to heal trauma, what is it there for, is I think what Mate was pressing on. Mate is suggesting that if it's not to heal trauma, the existential disease of humanity, then is spiritual work just some recreational activity for bored suburbanites? Adyashanti faced, in my opinion, some contradictions there. I do respect him but I find his brand of spirituality recreational, by his own definition, which feel like a pop culture product, rather than a deeper, profound spiritual medicine that Mate is trying to show.

I love what Gabor mate says from around 43 minutes onwards. Brilliant! .he's very patient and understanding but he expresses himself from then on. Not too interested in the bald guy but love gabor mate and his way of cutting through the bullshit !

Good inquiries and concepts. It's interesting how cerebral we get, and the older I get, the more Ii'm learning to embrace simplicity versus calculability. Be Real with How I Feel. Say 'No' if it feels like a 'no'. It's the simple stuff my mom couldn't teach me, because she didn't know it either.

Enlightenment, sensibility, trauma, silence, spiritual embodiment, spiritual bypass, self-honesty. Beautiful, thank you! 🙏🏻🍀

Can we have many more hours with these two? I love the combo. Such genius. Such heart. Such humanity.

The initial question and inquiry about peoples make up toward spiritual / energetic sensitivity.... Do some have it "more" than others.... ?... We ALL have the capacity for spiritual and energetic sensitivity. It's our "blueprint". Indeed it's on a continuum..... however we all have the innate, implicit capacity to the degree we do. And ABSOLUTELY... it's developed over time with and due to experience (spontaneous awakening) and /or to practice. We all have it. We all "are it".

When Gabor mentioned trauma I'm surprised he said that it has never been tackled by spiritual teachers. I say this because I listen to a lot of Eckhart, and he often mentions the 'pain body'. When we cease to live in the now, and the insecurities, rages, judgement towards others surface, Eckhart often refers to this as our pain body coming up. And we silence our pain by observing it and holding it, recognising where it comes from. Now in other talks I've watched of Gabor - who to me has been a great gift to listen to - Gabor mentions that he felt hurt and sulked one evening when upon flying back home from a weekend retreat, his wife did not pick him up from the airport (in a few words). Gabor says he realised where that anger and pain came from. They came from his childhood experience of abandonment, when his mum had left him with a stranger because the Nazis were closing in on the Jews in Budapest. Although she did it out of love, in his child's mind it translated into abandonment. To come to my point - Gabor is probably already doing what Eckhart would tell him to do - recognising the pain, recognising where it comes from, holding it and letting go. Letting go is not always easy but in my opinion Gabor is there, well on his spiritual path, but he's too humble to realise it ❤

WOW so perfectly shared in my life right now - thank you divine, divine, divine

A wonderful dialogue with great insight. Especially the ones about gradual enlightenment and total honesty.

What a fascinating event to have theses two converse. I will be seeing Adya for the first time in 2 days... :)

THE WORK THIS MAN HAS DONE ON THE CHILDHOOD ROOT IS BANG ON THE BUTTON TIME TO MAKE UP AND WAKE UP OLD PAIN AN FIX IT ALL FITS THE PUZZLE PERFECT

A spiritual teacher should absolutely be an expert in trauma, I find it bizarre that Adyashanti would say otherwise <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2816">46:56</a>

One of the most impactful talks I've ever heard. So many deep insights from two so mature and humble humans. 👌💖🙏

This is awesome! Whoever got these two together thanks!

This is an incredibly beautiful and honest conversation between two brilliant humans. Thank you so much!

Gabor mates presence is so loud despite being so quiet. His stillness in his energy is a great example to model

This is the perfect meeting of human and spiritual. We're both and great points are made by both teachers.

Whenever we feel frustrated or angry, we are in a state of fear and neediness. We are seeing our selves inaccurately, and fearing being inadequate, and wishing to be special. Frustration and anger disappear when we accept Love as Our Real State of Being; when we accept Our Will to Love constantly. When we accept Our Will to Love, all of the trauma caused by the rest-less ego-centric mind is put to rest, as Love is Rest-ful, because It is Pure Harmonious Energy. To be Emotionally Sound is to be Mentally and Spiritually Sound.

Every human being on this earth has experienced a trauma. It might have been small ones, or big ones but we all have felt them anyway. And we did not dissolve them, we just hardened oureselfs against it, creating the 'me' as the good fantasy. Seeing this 'me' actually, means; feeling the hurt once felt, and then Love steps in to solve it. thanks for sharing the video! :-)

I was so thrilled and suprised when I came across this meeting of two very interesting minds from entirely different backgrounds, because I have been listening to Adyashanti for at least the past ten years (probably more); and I have only comparatively recently discovered the amazing work and dynamic ideas of Dr. Gabor Mate. To see them both together was a sudden very powerful integration of two different paths for me that gives me a lot of hope and conviction that I must be doing something right! It's a wonderful example of how human beings from such different walks of life can come together in friendship and mutual respect, and this is the message for me, that yes, we can! We humans can meet and talk and agree or disagree but in a powerfully mutual and respectful way. If only our political leaders could understand this concept--that winning over another really isn't the most advanced way for us humans to learn to interact, but instead, to share and enjoy the resources of this wonderful gift of life!

As Dr Gabor asked about spirituality ,I would respectfully say that he has a rugged spirituality and he is a gift to the world. Thank you

😩🤔I get lost when Adyashanti speaks. Maybe it’s just me. Gabor asks a question that I clearly hear, then Adyashanti utters words in response but the words don’t compute with my brain. I think that’s why I stopped listening to / watching any of his talks / videos. I see nothing has changed (except he’s older now) and what he says still feels like a “non-answer” to a question or thought. 😩😔

Lovely interview with a lovely man. It's good to see spiritual ideas slowly reaching the fringes of the mainstream. Slowly of course and to the fringes or even the fringes of the fringes!

Great conversations between the two of you. Brand new way of thinking about silence. However I decided to dive into my negativity to work myself through it. Intuitively I knew I needed help and I got help the other modalities of all the traffic residence and emotional body code. Four years later and still committed to my healing, I find myself feeling absolutely wonderful. I can describe this as a crossing the Wide wide open ocean with my support system nearby me whenever I needed it. My commitment and my support has made me a brand new person. One that I absolutely love… Myself!

You emotional and spiritual giants of modern maturity are so mysterious and so generous of spirit to constantly show your concern for us mental midgets. Thank you.

most valuable exchange

So much value in this! Thank you ❤

I wonder what kind of enlightenment can happen without knowledge and feeling of trauma (that is in us and all around us)? Gabor Maté's light shines stronger than he seems to be aware. It comes from working through the tough stuff, the personal and the collective trauma.

Gabor ...you're the most spiritual doctor I've ever known...and the way you have grown is a beautiful thing to watch over time. You're very spiritual and sensitive . To people's energy especially. You're so clearly CONNECTED to your Soul, purpose and Creator SOURCE. Much Love 💜🙏☮️🤗

I would suggest to anyone who is interested in a spiritual teacher who is also an expert on trauma to search for Teal Swan's material. And I'm also completely in agreement with Gabor Mate that trauma is a term that should be discussed more often and more seriously because, as he implies, medical community will soon find out that trauma is indeed a root of all mental and also phisical ailments.

Absolutely fantastic, a favorite!

Thanks to both of you. As I listened, I was reminded of the Work of Byron Katie...and the contribution she has made to self awareness through her meditative process Ask Four Questios and Turn It Around.....in the early days of her sharing this way of questioning of our thoughts , she introduced it as providing a path to ...stopping the nightmarem waje tge baby, the end of war....like Adya said...the hardest thing seems to be to be honest with ourselves....as one of the 'tools' in my ongoing journey, it is a fierce yet available practice.... This was a great Easter Sunday listening over a cuppa ..thanks again.

Two of my favourite people ... humble souls!!💛 Refreshing to hear such honest discussion!!

Great upload, thanks for sharing.

!!!!!!!! this is absolutely beautiful and perfect and profound. one of the single most vital talks i've ever seen on this channel, and i've watched hundreds of videos here. the points made are so important for any and all spiritual practitioners or seekers!!

He is so humble and honest. I admire him

Eternally grateful for this man. Gabor Mate you are an AMAZINGLY beautiful human being. Thanks for your knowledge and understanding of our humankind

I feel grateful to witness this fine conversation, thank you!

The first Gabor Mate talk I've never been able to finish ~ because this guy never shuts his mouth!

I love you Gabor Mate, there is something about your voice, something, that I don't know or understand. It is your voice.

Adyashanti is talking about emotional maturity as a way to sustain spirituality.

😀This is awesome!!

The message here really is, that we can't describe the indescribable with 26 letters of the alphabet!.... A quote that says it all is:- "When you lose touch with your inner stillness, you lose touch with yourself. When you lose touch with yourself, you lose yourself in the world. Your inner most sense of self, of who you are, is inseparable from stillness. This is the I am that is deeper than name and form. Stillness is your essential nature." ❤️

I like the honesty of adyashanti regarding the trauma All other spiritual teachers should be like this People who have trauma... Please read this... Don't make the mistake to escape trauma through spirituality.

I learnt more from the interviewer’s questions than the answers given. Dr Gabor exude the energy of the master in the room. I don’t know the other gentleman. I’m sure he is a great teacher...but there is something about Dr Gabor...so present, focused...has a strong presence. Thank you.

Want to just comment on the feeling of a "place". In traveling to Berlin for the first time (and alone), I immediately sensed a heaviness that I did not expect. Having this feeling persist and even grow during my visit, I came to understand it as sensing the weight of history that had taken place there.

Oooh.. not trying to be negative, but does it seem like Adyashanti takes a whole lot of words to say very little?

Wonderful interaction!

Phenomenal and incredible exchange. Thank you. 🙏

Right, and people like Adyashanti perpetuate the myth of what 'enlightenment' looks like. So good on you, Mate. Tear that wall down!

Very much enjoyed the exchange between both of you! Beautiful, we need to integrate all of it, human and higher self, it’s an ongoing process instead of pretending we get to some spiritual pinnacle and then don’t have to experience or process, help, heal, celebrate accomplishments from human self, not just acknowledge and celebrate higher self manifestation and alignment. 😊❤️

Two of my favourite people, thank you for posting this.

I agree with the previous comments Gabor seems to be real and authentic. The other guy seems stiff, from the head down, cold, ie non feeling, who reads a lot but does not embody very much, but has rehearsed " what it is like to be enlightened."

Out of certainty, into potential

An Enlightened with emotional issues he is not Enlightened. He is still on the way for true Enlightenment. A great teacher that is raping women it is not a great teacher. ´´He is great teacher´´ is only a concept in the minds of those who consider him as a great teacher. Great teacher is he who radiates peace, love in all times and circumstances and change people hearts by these vibration. And of course he is free from lust, fear, pride, anger and all other egoistic tendencies.

Ah, now it makes sense! I noticed a shift in energy walking the Camino ; crossing the border from Portugal to Spain was really stark contrast. My fellow walkers did too. Now I know its the pain body. These guys are so beautiful to learn from thank you!

I experienced a spiritual awakening at20 yo….i was at the end of my rope…I accepted Jesus Christ as my Personal Savior…then at 24 yo. I experienced the Baptism of Fire with manifestation of a Heavenly language. Iam now 67 yo. And I haven’t turned back….iam emotionally,spiritually and mentally Whole!! Physically iam very healthy and fit! Praise the Lord!!

I am a little surprised about all the hateful comments towards Adyashanti, I have to say. It’s not like he, or most other spiritual teachers for that matter, are claiming to heal trauma. Their art is of a different kind. So why do people say Maté feels authentic and Adyashanti doesn’t? To me, they both feel authentic, just in different ways, according to each’s own truth and work.