Scientific calculator restoration! Will her display shine again?

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Thomas Burns

Thomas Burns

2 жыл бұрын

Join me in restoring this beautiful 1980 Electronika B3-18А (Электроника Б3-18А)- the first handheld scientific calculator in the USSR! This unit came to us non-functional and missing its non-standard power adapter. Can we restore it? A vacuum fluorescent tube display has never looked so good!
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@ckovalev
@ckovalev 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, my father owned Electronika MK-61 when I was a little kid, and he even let me play with it! So many memories :)
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
So cool! Our great-grandchildren will look back on these devices as the tech that started it all!
@zesanurrahman6778
@zesanurrahman6778 10 ай бұрын
epic@@ThomasBurns
@Hellseeker1
@Hellseeker1 11 ай бұрын
So sad that the beauty of those tube displays are almost lost to time now. I know there not efficient but damn are they gorgeous.
@Amitavzone
@Amitavzone Жыл бұрын
when you first turned on the calculator after restoration i feel very happy. Thank you for this types of video. Love from India
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Pandu!
@Amitavzone
@Amitavzone Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasBurns no sir pleasure is all mine
@atifzaidi8198
@atifzaidi8198 8 ай бұрын
Such A Brilliant Restoration Love from India👍
@BURTON-bzz
@BURTON-bzz 10 ай бұрын
в 90х годах у меня было таких 2 штуки )) ностальгия спасибо за видео
@gennadyborsch3586
@gennadyborsch3586 10 ай бұрын
I had this calculator when I was a radioengineering student!
@ChernobylFamily
@ChernobylFamily 2 жыл бұрын
This is truly awesome! I remember using this kind of Electronica calculator back in the depressive [very] early 1990s when I just went to school.
@zxborg9681
@zxborg9681 10 ай бұрын
You mentioned the switch for grad and rad: they're standard calaulcator modes for specifying what "units" the angles are when doing sin/cos/tan etc. a "grad" is like a degree only there are 400 to a circle instead of 360. "rad" is for radians, where pi radians (3.14...) is the same as 180 degrees.
@dougc314
@dougc314 2 жыл бұрын
In contrast, in 1973 I graduated from high school, and was going to go to university, studying electrical engineering. I had a low paying summer job working at a city run day camp. All summer I saved to buy an HP-35, I was very happy that the price had dropped from $450 to $350. At the end of summer I had nearly enough, I think my father helped a bit, at least getting a bit of a discount by buying it at work (he worked for a large engineering firm) Four years later as a fresh out EE I was making $14400 a year, So I guess a new EE in 1973 would get $12,000 or $13,000., or more than $1000 a month. So in 1972 an HP-35 would cost a new engineer in the USA about 1/3 of a months pay. When I was a senior in school my HP-35 was stolen and I replaced it with a far cheaper TI calculator, which while much more cheaply manufactured had slightly more functions. It cost less than $100. Luckily the HP-35 was returned to me in a few weeks, and I have it still, and it still works. Not so with the TI calculator. It bet the TI calculator was comparable or better than the calculator featured here.
@mrkrsl_
@mrkrsl_ 5 ай бұрын
Lovely restoration. I realise I'm dredging this one up a year on, but you could quite easily restore the green plastic/acrylic screen, I think. Do the old CA glue + masking tape trick to secure it to a small wooden block then sand it back to get below the deepest scratch. Then work back up to the finest grit you can find and finish with some polywatch. It'll look like new.
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 5 ай бұрын
That’s a great tip, Mark! Will incorporate in the future!
@LucasHaley
@LucasHaley 2 жыл бұрын
Grads vs radians? 1 Grads = 0.0157 Radians
@wompastompa3692
@wompastompa3692 2 жыл бұрын
400 Gradians = 2π Radians = 360 Degrees
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes Жыл бұрын
@@wompastompa3692 Yup! Which also = 𝜏 radians. :D
@naromsky
@naromsky Жыл бұрын
Just for the record. Grad stands for градус, which means degree, not gradians.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes Жыл бұрын
@@naromsky oh, interesting! I was surprised at the idea that it would be only grads and radians (I’m used to a 3-way option with those two plus degrees), but the two-way option with degrees and radians makes much more sense. Thanks!
@StrangeFredyKing
@StrangeFredyKing Жыл бұрын
Me watching smart people discuss things 🤡
@VictorBorah-Invincible
@VictorBorah-Invincible Жыл бұрын
My dad had that same calculator which he bought around in 1980/1981 while he was working in The Netherlands. When I was a Kid, I used to play with that and I was very fascinated with the display until I broke it one day and I tried to fix it in secret which finally led me to my interest in electronics.
@mrgadget1485
@mrgadget1485 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be many of those around left any more. It must have been pretty rate back in the 70s if it cost two months salary. As a calculator geek myself, I love these things!
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Fewer and fewer every day, I’m afraid. It’s up to us to save them. :)
@zalaquin
@zalaquin Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving these devices new life.
@JDArtagnanAO
@JDArtagnanAO Жыл бұрын
I loved this calculator, in fact I love old calculators, both electronic and mechanical, the electronic ones in 1st place with the LED display and in the 2nd place with the plasma display, good job sir, really beautiful calculator
@Mispheoult
@Mispheoult 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you're doing this. Keep it up!
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tyler!
@lLab0rant
@lLab0rant Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for restoring this wonderful example of 197s engineering excellence.
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@shamasis.bhattacharya
@shamasis.bhattacharya Жыл бұрын
I am so glad you did a video of this. Exquisite!
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jonathanfairchild
@jonathanfairchild Жыл бұрын
Seems to me like a USB-B would have been the best choice. It seems like it would be the perfect size and they’re extremely reliable. Pressing force might be too much though. Although I’m fairly certain I’ve seen them with mounting grooves.
@juanson2455
@juanson2455 Жыл бұрын
I came a little when the connector slid out. Jokes aside, Soviet repairability and engineering is really something else. They just don't make things like this anymore. Even to find a schematics that beautiful is nearly impossible. Man i wish our system wasn't based on profits so that they make it as hard as possible to repair something.
@FishKungfu
@FishKungfu Жыл бұрын
Awesome restoration!!
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gummel82
@gummel82 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is underrated! The editing quality and content is amazing! I can't understand why you only have 20k subs. I bet in a couple of months you'll have at least a couple 100k
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Gummel!
@elinaveksler
@elinaveksler 2 жыл бұрын
What a nice piece of tech!
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Elina!
@douro20
@douro20 Жыл бұрын
Those are NiCd cells. D-0,25 is the type number. Voltage is 1.2V. The manufacturer (JSC Rigel) once exported coin cells to the US but they've been under sanctions for over a decade. They even put the price of the cell on there- 53 kopeks.
@nascentclouds-a.i.collecti9918
@nascentclouds-a.i.collecti9918 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I read about these in the Tetris book "The Tetris Effect"
@user-nb5xw5tr5g
@user-nb5xw5tr5g Жыл бұрын
Display beautiful, i like
@jeromekaidor7254
@jeromekaidor7254 11 ай бұрын
I would have kept the original power connector and made up a matching one with female ic socket pins or female Dupont pins and a body of epoxy putty.
@stingerutube
@stingerutube Жыл бұрын
good work, I think Grad and Rad are degree (angle) measuring unit systems
@Rich-on6fe
@Rich-on6fe Жыл бұрын
If you can find a stock of pins and female pin sockets from military-style connectors, you can build your own multi-pin connectors. In this cast you would plug on three sockets, mix up some epoxy or car filler and just cast it in there. You'd obviously need to paint on some wax or other release agent first. Maybe build a shell of sticky tape into the cavity before casting. Nice job, nice machine.
@brianreay4104
@brianreay4104 11 ай бұрын
The connector looks like one used on old Kenwood amateur radios in the 1980s. Look for TR2200, TR2200G, or GX connector. They aren’t common but you do see them around at junk sales etc.
@therealjammit
@therealjammit Жыл бұрын
Old video but I've had some good luck making my own power plugs for odd things like that. I use the connectors you would use on a computer that attach the mainboard to the front panel led's and switches. Cutting the connector apart and trimming you can get a single connector and wire (some connectors and wires will be destroyed). If the connector and wire fit well individually on the pins, I then use scrap plastic as spacers and glue the connectors into position (tacked together with super glue). I then remove the semi-completed assembly and carefully epoxy them together and shape to fit.
@IvanFedulov
@IvanFedulov 8 ай бұрын
12:02 "scavengers" such a correct word, needs to be used on russian youtube as well...
@Hellseeker1
@Hellseeker1 11 ай бұрын
You can get them scratches out with buffing compound and a buffer wheel, I worked at a place that refurbished cash registers.
@davecolver3840
@davecolver3840 2 жыл бұрын
Great Restoration! See the Rockwell 61R; almost certainly the chip was Japanese but the remainder is locally produced
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dave! Will check out the Rockwell 61R!
@andreyturkin
@andreyturkin Жыл бұрын
Every part of it was made in USSR including the chip. Now, was it all completely designed in USSR? Probably not. There were quite a few chips surprisingly similar to existing western counterparts (e.g. entirety of i8080 ecosystem has its russian counterparts).
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 2 жыл бұрын
It looks very much like a clone of the Rockwell 61R calculator.
@natecaine7473
@natecaine7473 Жыл бұрын
The moment I spotted that integrated circuit package I thought the same: Rockwell Semiconductor. I wonder if it's an actual Rockwell chip, or a Soviet reverse engineering. Likewise, is the VFD (Vacuum Fluorescent Display) of Soviet or Japanese origin? My bet would be an import.
@cameronchernoff6420
@cameronchernoff6420 Жыл бұрын
With a 3d printer, you could print your own custom fittings, for say that usb-c port and such ! :)
@Qubic3D
@Qubic3D Жыл бұрын
Very nice refurbishing! I like your channel very much. I would have had 3d printed a Russian 5V plug to keep the device in an original shape. Turning the glass was an excellent idea! If you would polish the scratches it would look nicer. Even deepest scratches are easy to remove with sandpapers and polish. But, no complaining here, just some more ideas. Thank you for your nice work and sharing.
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@jggouvea
@jggouvea 2 жыл бұрын
grad and rad are "degrees" and "radians", a type of measure for angles.
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jose!
@luna010
@luna010 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure grad is used to mean gradians, not degrees. 90 degrees = 100 gradians
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes Жыл бұрын
@@luna010 yup, quite right. 𝜏 (aka 2𝜋) radians = 360 degrees = 400 gradians, or grads. Many scientific calculators have modes for all 3 of these systems.
@timmurren838
@timmurren838 Жыл бұрын
I've seen you try to get scratches out of plastic in a couple videos. I've had good luck with using really low grit to really high grit sand paper. Wet sanding while using the highest grits. Then, I use a the Novus 2 and Novus 1 to complete the polishing process. Works for clear and opaque plastics. Motorcycle riders use Novus products to repair their helmet visors
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome suggestion! Thank you, Tim!
@vvdvlas8397
@vvdvlas8397 Жыл бұрын
В 1978г я уговорил моих родителей купить мне калькулятор Б3-18М за 200руб. Это примерно была месячная зарплата моих родителей. Калькулятор был такой же конструкции, только в металлическом корпусе. Это было чудесное изделие! In 1978, I persuaded my parents to buy me a B3-18M calculator for 200 rubles. It was about the monthly salary of my parents. The calculator was of the same design, only in a metal case. It was a wonderful product!
@owensavill429
@owensavill429 Жыл бұрын
Scratches can be worked out of viewfinder plastic using T-Cut or PolyWatch, depending on how soft the plastic is. This goes for most viewfinder plastics. Just try a patch first and work carefully
@PontiacBandit
@PontiacBandit Жыл бұрын
I have an old CRAIG calculator that I found at a Goodwill. It doesn’t have the AC adapter nor any other type of power source. If I were to send it to you, could you bring it back to life just like how you did for this one? I’d pay you of course 🙂
@phitrow
@phitrow Жыл бұрын
на этой лампе можно сделать часы, удалив все внутренности, установив Arduino c повышающим DC-DC для анода лампы.
@capy_bite
@capy_bite 10 ай бұрын
Классно!🎉
@espelett
@espelett 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent restoration and great video 👏👏👏
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@teraflux1988
@teraflux1988 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, in the 80s the average monthly salary in the Soviet Union was about 135 rubles. The price of the calculator was 220 rubles
@bayareapianist
@bayareapianist Жыл бұрын
I think back then the robble and dollar were equal.
@MamaMia84oo7
@MamaMia84oo7 Жыл бұрын
You’re amazing and I love your videos. Are you also this good with software? Can you program? You are a dangerou man 😊.
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Programming is definitely my weak side, but so far all my programming has been relatively simple Arduino scripts. :)
@InternetStranger476
@InternetStranger476 7 ай бұрын
They had big pockets
@mdforhad-wk1zo
@mdforhad-wk1zo 6 ай бұрын
❤from🇧🇩
@Aeduo
@Aeduo Жыл бұрын
That would've been pretty great if that could've had a USB-C port. Kinda trolly if it ended up with a lightning port. :p
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Hahaha yes! But even USB-C won’t be around too much longer. The traditional round DC jack, however, has stood the test of time. :)
@user-ks1mo8to3t
@user-ks1mo8to3t Жыл бұрын
How about changing the display to LCD display
@Kayris
@Kayris Жыл бұрын
That's one huge "pocket" calculator, even for 76 thats that's big right?
@paullee107
@paullee107 Жыл бұрын
I *love* your videos. I got into Russian watches on eBay a while ago - I wish I had the ability to find these things!! Where do y'all source?
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Most of it comes from local markets in Tbilisi. Sometimes I have friends bring it from Moscow. Thanks so much for watching!
@Dysturbed-00
@Dysturbed-00 10 ай бұрын
We can have this but we still can't have a tablet with LCARS
@MnD23212
@MnD23212 Жыл бұрын
i have the same but i have no power adapter or batteries
@markgreco1962
@markgreco1962 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was -5v did you have to change something???
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I reversed the leads on the calculator’s connector to get the -5V.
@markgreco1962
@markgreco1962 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasBurns I re-watched nice work.
@gioarzumanov9937
@gioarzumanov9937 2 жыл бұрын
хорошый апарат
@hamzamammadli2445
@hamzamammadli2445 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s time for you to get 3D printer for this plug hole kind of problems :)
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s on my tools wishlist, but as you can probably imagine, the list is long. :)
@user-md3ue8de5e
@user-md3ue8de5e Жыл бұрын
Привет, я из России. У меня где то лежит ещё один такой калькулятор в точно таком же состоянии. Не включается, но явно работающий. Вся проблема в питании, найти такое зарядное устройство очень сложно, но можно, а мне это не нужно. Если вам нужна эта вещ, то могу подарить.
@ThomasBurns
@ThomasBurns Жыл бұрын
Вы в Тбилиси?
@user-md3ue8de5e
@user-md3ue8de5e Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasBurns нет я из Росии, а что?
@therealjammit
@therealjammit Жыл бұрын
It still makes me pause every time I see some old Russian product that has the price stamped into the product badge along with the part number and the serial number.
@G7VFY
@G7VFY Жыл бұрын
What about wireless charging!
@CompanyBusinessCards
@CompanyBusinessCards Жыл бұрын
easy why 9 was used so many times, 19.99 ; 39.99 ; 7.99
@elxakiltse8773
@elxakiltse8773 6 ай бұрын
and because it means "no" in German.
@roberthayes6329
@roberthayes6329 Жыл бұрын
This would be kinda cool, if I were Russian. 😅
@ukrainiansturgeon8561
@ukrainiansturgeon8561 Жыл бұрын
It’s so asinine that people are salvaging rare and discontinued electronics like this. Imagine the Macintosh being just a myth in 100 years due to “poaching”
@mimsnshine
@mimsnshine 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not worthy.
@cupermenlot8502
@cupermenlot8502 Жыл бұрын
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