Scooter clutch comparison and tuning

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4 жыл бұрын

Today I take some time to go over the most common 2 stroke performance clutches, how they differ, and how they work. Your clutch is responsible for the engagement of your cvt from off throttle to throttle. Stock clutches in time, will slip, and wear when your making more power. Check out the links below for our options
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@knightsportsfc3s 4 жыл бұрын

One of the best channels on KZfaq. Always 100% information, knows their stuff and actually uses it.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

thanks man!

@rickrudge9349 4 жыл бұрын

A very informative video/review. Keep up the good work. 🛵💨

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you rick!

@thedownhillerboy 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing Vespa in the end of the video👌.My pre-bug is equipped with the Stage6 mkII clutch, haven't tried it with the weights yet but after hearing your explanation it seems to me that there might be a valid reason for me to do so since I'm noticing a slight belt slippage every time I twist the throttle and during take-off like you mention.

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 give a like and subscribe bud!

@thedownhillerboy 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scooterswapshop I gave like as soon as I finished watching the video already, and subscribed to the channel almost a year ago already too.Maybe it takes a while untill the given like gets to be registered or something like that 🤔🤨.

@RUNNERSAAA 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you man :) very good video

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@liviudodo Ай бұрын

Big like for this video. Do you have any idea why Polini and others are making clutches without cooling fins ? I just bought a Polini Sport clutch without cooling fins for my 2023 Vespa GTS , but i also put the Polini Clutch Bell Speed Evolution wich has better cooling power than the original bell . After 500 km all looks and feels very good , but i still wonder why there are clutches without cooling fins ...

@moemoeski101 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this video. I will be buying the Stage 6. I like one and done. What variator and belt would be a good match for a 70cc setup?

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! For what bike?

@xco7693 4 жыл бұрын

Mallosi multivar is the best variator for 70cc and belt take one from malossi,polini or stage6 the dont make a difference

@jimccc9467 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, very informative. Can you tell me, using products on your website, how you would set up the driveline on a Aprillia Ditech with a Malossi 70cc kit($350 kit nothing exotic) and a Tasuni Z pipe? I watched your other video of “what not to do” and I’m unclear regarding the contra component.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Not to sure of what the actual question is we have about 4 videos on cvt tuning and so on feel free to call the shop and Paul can get you set up.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Also I’d start by getting rid of the z, it’s a Stock replacement ex it doesn’t offer performance e

@shan967 4 жыл бұрын

Hey man keep up the good work. Just wondering i have a 96cc stock cylinder with a 21mm dellorto carb. What springs should i use in the clutch to make it easier for wheelies? I currently have a white big one with stock small clutch springs.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Depends

@petrosfalieris786 4 жыл бұрын

Hi dude!! Very nice video first of all!! I just got a gp1 250 and I need a clutch probably because doesnt accelerate so fast(I dont know the right word in english). Do you have an idea which clutch will fit better?? The variator is malossi if this is important

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Call the shop we can get you going fast!

@g8some Жыл бұрын

You said good for 2 strokes, but what about 4 stroke Aprilia motard? I have the polini one you showed. Am I safe to install that one?

@dtftoronto1402 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Dude you need weigh each clucthes and weigh the whole cluctch to make comparison. Because the clucth works on centrifugal force the weights is important inforamation for tuning. Im looking a clutch that weigh lower than 485grams do you have any by chance?

@pathlesspage921 6 ай бұрын

Do i need to adjust something in the variator to install a better clutch and clutch springs

@gabrielwalker421 3 ай бұрын

Hi my Gilera DNA 180 clutch turns the rear wheel slightly at idle. It's not enough to cause any issues when riding but I hate the vibraton up my ass when at a standstill. All the Piaggio scooters I've had dragged the clutch like this at idle, but I have never installed an aftermarket clutch on one. I have however changed the old clutch springs out for Malossi 2911326 Yellow and installed lighter rollers which has helped only very slightly. The clutch shoes pull on the springs more than the springs pull the clutch shoes closed. Idle is set to 1600-1700rpm as per the specification. I want an aftermarket clutch for my Gilera which will not drag at all at idle, what would you recommend?

@mbriscoe43 Жыл бұрын

How do you tune your Idols to go so low on your bikes and how it like that Vespa

@DH22013 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. What are your thoughts about 2 segments vs 3? I have a 2g polini laying around for more than 10 years now which i got from a friend. I never used it because ii thought 3 segments where better.

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

DH the 2 shoe is a drag race clutch. I’ve had good luck with that clutch however it’s not made anymore. I wouldn’t hesitate to run it

@DH22013 4 жыл бұрын

@@Scooterswapshop Thanks for your quick reply. Keep it up with your great video's :) Cannot wait for your next twin build video!

@Artem_ZpCity Жыл бұрын

Hi. Can u say what i need 2 to ? I have xmax 300 and wanna that he starts faster 0-100…

@pcorpion 4 жыл бұрын

Great video!!! Do you have one for the rc one Minarelli setup?

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

which one lol

@tahseen8171 4 жыл бұрын

Is there any way to minimise the spool up of the clutch before it engages. You said you recommend red clutch springs which engage at about 8k. From a standstill and if it's city use, then this setup would be pretty annoying having to rev it so high before it moves.

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

You can have it engage anywhere from 2000 rpm or 8000. Race bikes need high engagement. Soft springs engage wealth stuff springs engage late. Just pick the ones you need and install for your needs

@kv4416 4 ай бұрын

Which 1 is your favourite?

@LyonhartZ2 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Scooterswapshop, Are the other parts of the clutch available (Like the sliding Sheave and the main sheave) Its seems like less work to not have to disassemble your stock basket

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

call the shop

@Tradeofjane 4 жыл бұрын

Do you sell the spacer for the Polini clutch or know where I can get one? I already have the clutch. I just need the spacer.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

call the shop not all bikes are the same

@exapioz3075 3 жыл бұрын

Do i really need this? I have a speedfight 3 ac and im going to buy an airsal mid race 70cc, next r pipe and lower the varistor weights to 4,6g i feel like this is enough?

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

all up to you on what you need.

@imdovis787 Жыл бұрын

If i want better acceleration from stand still for the mallosi delta how do i adjust the slidey thingies? Cuz now its really slow from stand still

@gumonthepants 8 ай бұрын

I've been searching and searching myself. What this guy doesn't mention is that there also weights behind the shoes that also have 3 positions. He only showed the adjustment on the front with the tiny teeth which are the preload for the springs. Instructions in the Malossi manual are too minimal to understand fully so I'm going back & forth testing different settings. However at 8:15 he's describing a very similar concept on a different clutch that uses the same idea. Our Malossi Delta only has 3 options for the weights.

@Danny-mz6gc 4 жыл бұрын

My favorit is the Doppler SX86 Clutch.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

NICE

@jpra64 Ай бұрын

Is 7500+ clutch engagement too much for 50cc with lighter rollers and pipe?

@royromero8496 2 жыл бұрын

Good info sir I have malossi clutch and bell for my kymco 150 it has blue springs do you think this is good for a stock setup

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

nice!

@bp-tuningaeroxlc-dd6474 4 жыл бұрын

I yous the stage6 clutch whit Malossi delta spring ( Black ) That Work super fine on my Yamaha Aerox scooter ( polini evolution 3 )

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

cool

@markuspartanen1928 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 1999 piaggio typhoon goes about 80km/h power ends after passing 45km/h what should i do and it is pretty mutch stock. has a 17.5 dellorto carburetor. Should i buy a better cylinder or adjust the cvt?

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

You can call the shop give Paul your name and order number so he can see what parts you have nd can give you the advice you need.

@RUNNERSAAA 4 жыл бұрын

i want to know what kind of springs should i put.. i have Aerox with Malossi 124cc , Multivar 2000 (8,4g rollers), Torque Drive Malossi, Delorto 21,Technigas Next R, and Stage6 Clutch (with white springs right now...). And i cannot make more than 80km/h.. What is the Problem..Please somebody tell me

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

we have many videos on tuning.

@krystian9439 Жыл бұрын

Hello, which clutch to choose Stage6 Torque Control or Malossi Delta?, I have the whole set of Malossi MHR La furia drive, Piaggio engine

@k4cperz_333 11 ай бұрын

Stage6

@denzeljoseph8885 4 жыл бұрын

What clutch springs would be best between polini and malosi?

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

all depends on the bike and what you want to do!

@dds1534 2 жыл бұрын

What would you recommend doing with a speedfight 2 100cc wrc?

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

email the shop with more details

@angelkayeflores9404 4 жыл бұрын

Can u help.me.i need racing crank for my honda dio2 engine. Thank you for youre kindness

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I can go to our website send us a email with what you exactly need or call the shop we have parts on the website tho.

@dongerramarco9617 3 жыл бұрын

is the stage six good to upgrade the gilera runner 50cc from 2009

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Sure.

@antoniodirty 9 ай бұрын

Para sacar los muelles del Malossi solo hay que sacar los tornillos, se cambian y se vuelven a colocar los tornillos sin hacer fuerza... no es necesario un tirador

@raymondbetancourt6498 3 жыл бұрын

Will polini Springs fit stage six clutch 107?

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Negatory...

@nissy4 3 жыл бұрын

I have 300gts with stock.clutch en malossi red clutch springs is that ok?

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

all varies on every part on your bike call the shop we are happy to answer customers questions more specifically

@13nutkiller 4 жыл бұрын

By the way with the 180 go with red springs in delta clutch (malossi springs) and stock position for the front and back adjustments to start with then go from there

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I’ve got the red springs but it’s still engaging around 4500-5k. I’ve not blacks coming. What contras do you run? Seems as if the malossi contra spring is very stock

@Roland-Henry 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance you have a recommendation for the 150cc? Thanks for any support.

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

150cc Gy6 you really don’t need to install performance clutches like this as they engage very low. We use the ncy clutches with 1000 rpm springs on 171 big bore bikes

@Roland-Henry 4 жыл бұрын

Scooterswapshop Thanks for the tip. The 171 is likely my next upgrade, hopefully. I installed the 2,000 red springs with contra spring into the stock clutch recently... Do you offer any help via email? Would love to briefly list my build and get any feedback from people that actually know what they’re doing. Mostly trial and error to this point. Thanks again.

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

That’s way too stuff for a 171. We advise contacting the shop you got the parts from for tuning help. If you decide to do the 171 we can help with that but we can only help On parts we provide as we dont want to step on other stores toes with customer support

@Roland-Henry 4 жыл бұрын

Scooterswapshop Understood. Thanks again. Will be sure and order from you guys next as support is the one thing lacking from any of the places I’ve previously ordered from.

@Roland-Henry 4 жыл бұрын

Scooterswapshop one final question, I haven’t actually upgraded to the 171 yet and am still at 150. I currently have all red springs in my clutch, so are you saying they are too stiff for the 150 as well? If so, I’ll gladly purchase some yellows from you folks. Thanks!

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@fractalofgod6324 4 жыл бұрын

Can I get a stage 6 for my 2017 honda forza 125 cc

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

call talk to Paul he can set you up with something potentially

@YszapHun 4 жыл бұрын

4:35 that is not a spacer, that is a torsion washer for your contrast spring, it prevents the contrast spring from twisting. Naraku has better ones though, with real bearings so much less friction.

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

Yes however the naraku ones are prone to losing the bearings as they’re not caged. I’m not a fan of the design

@user-zw9qu6pq1d Жыл бұрын

Добрый день подскажите пожалуйста какое лучше всего поставить сцепление на Yamaha Grand Axis-100

@user-zw9qu6pq1d Жыл бұрын

Ставил malossi fly -112мм работало хорошо но на 12000об подорвало плату

@nilswinter7195 4 жыл бұрын

Interested in a Piaggio zip fast rider 80cc?

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

@hannnapret6636 3 жыл бұрын

What you think about blue springs?

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

depends on what blue springs and what bike and what your going for

@tommybelanger1238 3 жыл бұрын

Which one is better the 107mm or the 105mm

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

size doesn't matter just depends on the bike

@skilledskittles6740 2 жыл бұрын

My old clutch size was a 105 and bought 107 is it an upgrade or my clutch is going to slip

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

you get a 107 bell?

@skilledskittles6740 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scooterswapshop yea i use to have a 105 but i bought a 107 bell and clutch is that bad? or will it slip

@funnymlbb2590 2 жыл бұрын

What is the solution. I feel the clutch is sliding on the bell

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

springs or better clutch

@srwickpro 2 жыл бұрын

I want a cluth for My grand Yamaha axis 100

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

not sure we can get that visit our site or our other website scooterpartshop.com

@k24nate70 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man is there anyway you can give me some assistance I have a polini x1 it’s a single speed dirt bike and the (clutch) went ordered a new one but im new to all this and I’m working on my bike on my own don’t have money for experts if you can call me or email me just to chat about it that would be sweet.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, infortunately we don’t have staffing to be able to call people and help them on items purchased elsewhere. I’d imagine there are some KZfaq videos on it. It’s a pretty easy setup I’d imagine

@positivevibration.3420 3 жыл бұрын

Stage 6 looks easy and simple to Tune.

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

yep

@mariafeliz3821 8 ай бұрын

Does it work for 150cc?

@Scooterswapshop 8 ай бұрын

Yep!

@chestertnt1234 4 жыл бұрын

Scooter BW'S 100 please

@Scooterswapshop 3 жыл бұрын

what are you asking about?

@leohobbleohobb3781 2 жыл бұрын

Stage 6 clutch you said it was a spacer.It is compression/tork spring seat and not a spacer.

@Scooterswapshop 2 жыл бұрын

cool

@13nutkiller 4 жыл бұрын

Contact me I will be happy to help you with your gilera make your life easier.. love your videos by the way I thought there where no hills over ther in the US.

@Scooterswapshop 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!