Scotch Snaps in Hip Hop

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The Scotch Snap is everywhere in modern hip hop - a metrically accented sixteenth note followed by a dotted eighth note. Why is it everywhere? And where did it come from?
The answer lies in how American speak english.
A Study of Rhythm in London: Is Syllable-timing a Feature of Multicultural London English?
repository.upenn.edu/cgi/view...
Philip Tagg’s 1 hour documentary on the Scotch Snap!
tagg.org/Clips/HTML5/ScotchSna...
Another fantastic lecture by Philip Tagg if you want to get into this stuff
vimeo.com/278543832
Music and the Brain: The Music of Language and the Language of Music
• Music and the Brain: T...
Music-Language Correlations and the “Scotch Snap”
davidtemperley.com/wp-content/...
David Bruce Composer: How the way you TALK affects the music you write
• How the way you TALK a...
PBS Soundfield - How Trap Music Took Over
• Who Invented Trap Music?
Les "SCOTCH SNAPS" de Lil Wayne à Purcell [ANALYSE DE MONA LISA]
• Les "SCOTCH SNAPS" de ...
The Scotch Snap from Strathspey to Rap - Wayne Marshall/wayneandwax
• The Scotch Snap from S...
The Origins of Strathspey
• The Origins of the Str...
Rhythm in the speech and music of jazz and riddim musicians
repository.wellesley.edu/cgi/...
Perception and acquisition of linguistic rhythm by infants
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/...
A Comparison of Rhythm in English Dialects and Music
pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ab5a...
African Banjo Playing!
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EXAMPLES OF SCOTCH SNAP IN HIP HOP/POP (used in this video, there are way, way more)
Soulja Boy - Pretty Boy Swag
Meek Mill - I B On Dat Feat. Nicki Minaj, French Montana & Fabolous
Beyoncé - Drunk in Love
Ariana Grande - 7 Rings
Ariana Grande - thank u, next
Childish Gambino - Worldstar
Bazzi - Mine
Lizzo - Juice
Wifisfuneral - It Don’t Matter
Cardi B, Bad Bunny, J Balvin - I Like It
Zedd, Marren Moris, Grey - The Middle
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Vybz Kartel - Come Home
Kery James - Mouhammad Alix
SCOTCH SNAP EXAMPLES in Scottish Music
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There's a Scottish folk band called capercaille that do a song called "Finlays" and it's basically old Scottish rap, if you're interested.

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But incorrectly pronounces strathspey, should be pronounced strath spey not strazthbay

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he is just a fellow german

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@lesnyk255 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Regarding the rhythm of speech: I once worked with an engineer from Taiwan whose English was so heavily accented I found it difficult to understand him at first. I had to learn how to "hear" him. It eventually dawned on me that what-a he-a was a-doing was-a inserting extra syllables into-a his-a speech so that it matched the cadence of his native Chinese. These dummy placeholder syllables amounted to audio noise atop the signal. It took several weeks for my linguistic wetware to learn how to filter out that noise.

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I need an analysis like this for indian english. it's incredibly hard for me to understand.

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That's been a difficult part for me when trying to learn a second language

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Oh so like the stereotypical Italian-American accent?

@lesnyk255 4 жыл бұрын

@@pillbobaggins2766 Not really - it didn't have the same graceful lilt. His accent was choppier, more staccato. He was also very soft-spoken, which made it even harder to understand him. In time, though, I learned how to cut through the static well enough to converse over the telephone. We've since drifted apart, it's been nearly 20 years since I've heard from him.

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Japanese also, and that can be fun to hear 😂

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Adam Neely is known for that. Even to other youtubers.

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He's tied with Vsauce and Exurbia. The latter of which still makes great videos.

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Indeed! He makes me wanna study music more and more every time I watch one of these amazings videos

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Luís Cláudio Artist/Scientists are not outliers. It just means he studied this stuff enthusiastically. You don’t need to be a savant to be good at something if you put the hours in.

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As a linguistics professor and a musician I really enjoyed this - good job!

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And this kids, is what target demographic means.

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@@frmcf I'm an ESL teacher. Teaching English rhythm is hard.

@martinpaddle 5 жыл бұрын

As a mathematics professor and musician, I also enjoyed this

@twinx_bar 4 жыл бұрын

why is literally nobody talking about 2:13 “We will naturally, in fact, tap, trap rap, scotch snaps” i love

@moonlightknight3342 4 жыл бұрын

I had to rewind that part 3 times because I could not understand what he was saying

@MamboGuy914 4 жыл бұрын

bars!

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Feels like princess carolyn from bojack

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BARS

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i just saw that bit exactly as i read this

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My brain cells had a discussion, and they agree that I don't have enough IQ points to sub to this channel.

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Was it just one talking to itself in a mirror? /s

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My brain cells did it too, and they both agreed the same

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If your brain cells can have independent discussions, reach a consensus, and inform the rest of your consciousness of it you are way way beyond subbing to this channel.

@FaithInTheGlitch 5 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna need a trap remake of the TMNT theme using the Scottish snap ASAP.

@bassistwithadeathwish7277 4 жыл бұрын

Chop Suey with Scotch Snaps

@browilliams 4 жыл бұрын

En Espanol

@AdamNeely 5 жыл бұрын

Corrections/additions... 1) German, Dutch and Croatian all are languages with scotch snaps in their rhythmic vocabulary, but I haven't heard that much in the way of rap in those languages, so I can't say too much on the subject. It would be perfect, I think, for German (bitte, wieder, immer, etc) 2) Strathspey is not pronounced like I pronounced it in the video, sorry Scotland. It is pronounced with an emphasis on the "spey," making it, ironically, not a trochee, but an iamb. 3) While I'm one of the first to make this scotch snap connection to modern hip hop (although not the first, there are a couple of resources in the description), I'm heavily indebted to Dave Bruce's video on this subject, as well as Philip Tagg's documentary.

@expandwhatyousee 5 жыл бұрын

Love the explanation. Really cool concept, especially the original usage of the technique. Also, to be honest thanks for explaining the thing that I can't stand in pop music. I love having an argument to my bitterness.

@maxkolbl1527 5 жыл бұрын

"Wieder" has a long first syllable, but apart from that: I never noticed how many Scotch Snaps there are in my language!

@andychisholm 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry didn't see this comment before I made mine. Great video!

@catcat3982 5 жыл бұрын

Grate video

@iainlennon 5 жыл бұрын

Scotland forgives you!

@blairbirdie1295 4 жыл бұрын

Music theory and linguistics together. I think I'm in love.

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After teaching Rhythmic Theory to advanced undergraduates for 17 years at the Oberlin Conservatory, I have begun ti make several of your videos required viewing for my class.

@MoGratitude 4 жыл бұрын

Where/who should I look into (wiki bio) to get a good foot into rhythmic theory. speaking percussive consonants are what beatboxers do. I'm already familiar with jazz standards and the greats along with the IPA (international prophetic alphabet)

@baron5688 2 жыл бұрын

@@MoGratitude do you mean phonetic?

@davidtorres8396 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many music labels are gonna try to claim this one.

@peterbull3955 5 жыл бұрын

Less than a certain length is okay though right?

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@Winston Zuo is this a comment etiquette reference

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@Puffinstuff 5 жыл бұрын

UMG just claims it like 50 times. 😂

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WangleLine Actually, fair use laws permit this. As long as your using it for a new purpose (In this case education), and you don’t use too much, it is fully legal. It won’t stop people from copyright claiming it anyway.

@DBruce 5 жыл бұрын

Despite making covering a similar topic a while back (and thanks for the mention!), I hadn't clocked that particular hip-hop rhythm as being another Scotch Snap - nice spot! The relationship between the music and the different dialects, particularly the "Multicultural London English" (which is influenced by Jamaican) is SO interesting!

@AdamNeely 5 жыл бұрын

I had a bit talking about that in an earlier version of this video, but I felt like I had taken too much specifically from your video already! I found another study talking about Nigerian English, and the syllable timing is very pronounced in that dialect as well.

@di.sociado 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Adam! Your video made me think about the correlation between spanish (my native language) and the rhythmic patterns of latin american music. I think that the next time I write a melody for vocals in spanish, I I'll search the best way to articulate it, according to the rhythmic nuances of this language.

@take5transfat 5 жыл бұрын

Adam Neely u should make another video about MLE in music, as i’m an american who is a big fan of grime, dubstep, and ukg and this would maybe inspire me in my djing and music production :D

@Storanzo98 5 жыл бұрын

Cristian Chavez Rojas i think they just come out naturally with the common rythms of the language. It would probably be harder to sing a lyric in spanish out of these fixations. Coming from a fellow spanish speaker.

@di.sociado 5 жыл бұрын

@@Storanzo98 Creo que tienes razón, pero de todos modos es genial poder tomar conciencia de ello en un nivel más avanzado. // I think you'r right, but nevertheless is great to be able to become aware of it in a higher level.

@KarelPletsStriker 4 жыл бұрын

This actually reminds me of sonnets, whose pentameter uses a similar rhythm. My Latin teacher once told me languages like Dutch and English were much better suited for such meters as opposed to the hexameter used in Ancient Greek and Latin

@jits8767 4 жыл бұрын

What is it about Dutch that makes it suitable for sonnets may I ask?

@KarelPletsStriker 4 жыл бұрын

@@jits8767 Same as in English. The rhythm of words in Dutch match the Scottish snap, and the iambic pentameter, which is used in sonnets, is basically 5 Scottish snaps after each other

@benjaminsagan5861 4 жыл бұрын

An iamb is the exact opposite of a trochee, with a metric foot of unstressed-Stressed.

@NonCompete 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating! Vietnamese pop/hip-hop music uses Scotch Snaps a lot these days, which makes sense since Vietnamese has a ton of trochees in normal everyday speech patterns.

@joelgerhardt7097 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't expect to find you here! We NEED a NonCompete - Adam Neely collab! When will BreadTube and MusicTube finally join forces? ✊

@DasOmen02 5 жыл бұрын

Music theory, AND language studies? Is this heaven?

@GreeceKelly 5 жыл бұрын

Must be 😍

@outshimed 5 жыл бұрын

Cardi B needs to release a baroque album

@Arturo.Juarez 5 жыл бұрын

outshimed you know...I might actually want to hear that instead her other crap songs.

@andrewtucker94 5 жыл бұрын

It's the natural next step for her

@tsardaddy9053 5 жыл бұрын

I'll bet that the B in Cardi B stands for baroque after this comment.

@coffinskoffin4942 5 жыл бұрын

Tsar Daddy Cardi B stands for Cardiovascular Bronchitis

@lifeontheledgerlines8394 5 жыл бұрын

@@andrewtucker94 *natural* Don't worry, it was an *accidental* pun.

@nickyreynolds3326 3 жыл бұрын

I'm legitimately surprised that Adam didn't mention what this rhythm is called in Scottish music: by the rhythmically onomatopoetic term "tachum."

@hamishmartindale8408 Жыл бұрын

i thought that the tachum is a specific ornamentaion used in bagpipe music

@givecamichips 5 жыл бұрын

I've been noticing this for years but never had a name for it. Thanks Adam.

@MatheusLourenzzz 5 жыл бұрын

That may explains why bossa nova is so melodically complex sometimes. The Brazilian Portuguese Language is very open in the vowels

@Josh-it6uy 5 жыл бұрын

7-1

@timothystamm3200 5 жыл бұрын

@@Josh-it6uy Really, on a video on music no one was talking about 2014, man what the hell!

@benjamm1n91 5 жыл бұрын

Good point! Didnt think of that.

@lolxd6154 4 жыл бұрын

@@Josh-it6uy Loser

@jb8189 5 жыл бұрын

U can change lives with this kind information

@DieMimik 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry to correct you, did you mean: *cue trap beat* "U can CHANGE our LIVES WITH this KIND of INforMAtion!"

@thrillaspirit 5 жыл бұрын

DieMimik NO i THINK that HE is BEing KINda BIT of ASSwipe STEALing

@plazmotech5969 5 жыл бұрын

@@DieMimik Holy shit. Why did I accent this EXACTLY like you did? I even also added "of" after "kind" just like you did. Incredible

@JonnyLipshamStudios 4 жыл бұрын

As a Scottish Jazz musician, I found this video, Adam, to be fantastically researched and well put together, replete with your entertaining sense of humour. Humour ALWAYS educates! You got me thinking about the way I improvise. I have begun to realise that the rhythmic content of my improvisations on the bass as well as the piano are replete with scotch snaps and the rhythm of my natural speech patterns. Interestingly, the rhythmic content of an Edinburgh accent is quite distinctly different from Glasgow, even though they are only 56 miles apart! Thought you'd find that interesting.

@clockworkkirlia7475 3 жыл бұрын

As a Scot who grew up on Burns and such, this is just amazing. I've never noticed the similarity between this feature of modern music and the Strathspeys of our folk. It's everywhere!

@juneau2721 5 жыл бұрын

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@ab9st8 5 жыл бұрын

24 carrot magic in the aaaaair ey xD

@theaddictofgaming9174 5 жыл бұрын

Duh, do doo do da duh doo do da

@unknowndeoxys00 5 жыл бұрын

Stealing this 😂

@montiigo 4 жыл бұрын

@@unknowndeoxys00 it's lyrics to a song already m8

@RudyAyoub 5 жыл бұрын

Also foot reveal 1:22

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Rudy Ayoub Adam Neely confirmed pedestrian

@CoryMck 5 жыл бұрын

Remember, he did that while standing.

@vladmihalca6402 5 жыл бұрын

Thats racist...

@raulperez2308 5 жыл бұрын

hot

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We need eye lids reveal from u

@avacarlson4670 4 жыл бұрын

1:08 please post an extended version and put on itunes promptly

@montiigo 4 жыл бұрын

YES

@calebrobinson3144 4 жыл бұрын

MUST HAPPEN

@fly_8659 4 жыл бұрын

Found in another comment chain, Este Trips has mashed up an extended video under the title "Cardi B x Boroque Mashup (Scotch Snaps)"

@rayj3878 4 жыл бұрын

flyscan link?

@xxcringeycookiezxx3441 3 жыл бұрын

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@capriccaa 5 жыл бұрын

Okay, I went to high school in Scotland where we had to learn all about this in our music classes :') This is forever burned into my memories: "A strathspey's a Scot∙tish dance with lots of dotted rhy∙thms, And the Scotch snap's the spe∙cial thing that helps you recognise it"

@thebestyoda 5 жыл бұрын

At this point Adam Neely is basically vsauce but younger and about music. Just change the background music to the vsauce music and it's vsauce 4. (Someone please acctually do this edit)

@ArloMathis 5 жыл бұрын

Jsauce! Let's talk about Dr. Jimothy Music...

@GrapeJuuce0 5 жыл бұрын

And he actually uploads

@ArloMathis 5 жыл бұрын

@@GrapeJuuce0 Micheal uploads on DONG with his free time that isn't being used for Mind Field.

@espowari 5 жыл бұрын

Each Adam Neely video could easily be a doctoral thesis.

@nineshinoda 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly why i subscribed to him lol

@egodeathwish 5 жыл бұрын

lots of them already were.

@cakredi4132 5 жыл бұрын

By the time we understand Scotch Snaps, there will be another trend happening in hip hop.

@blankman4012 4 жыл бұрын

Hip Hop is the heartbeat of the ghetto. This Scotchtape Snap or whatever is just coincidence. Someone way of trying to make sense of something they do not understand

@philperry6564 4 жыл бұрын

@@blankman4012 Not really, especially once you start listening to classical music you realize that all the American Music Industry does, is creating watered down classical music.

@oldleatherstocking3185 4 жыл бұрын

But we already understand it...

@traplover6357 4 жыл бұрын

@@blankman4012 while hip-hop was indeed the music of the street during the late 70s and over, the creation of flow and rhythm has been documented and experimented within the past to now. Proto-hip hop music before DJ Kool Herc has existed and before that, musical theory.

@timmy-dnumber1990 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait, this shit now is garbage and all sounds the same.

@brendanthompson2082 5 жыл бұрын

Does this mean a Scottish Highland music/Cardi B remix is possible?

@maishi 4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@MichaelTavares 4 жыл бұрын

Lowland.

@nicktaylor1902 4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelTavares you must be good at parties

@MichaelTavares 4 жыл бұрын

Nick Taylor is that an invite?

@highlands 4 жыл бұрын

I fucking hope not.

@whatskraken3886 5 жыл бұрын

As someone who speaks spanish i am impressed by your decent pronunciation.

@binface9 5 жыл бұрын

Shame about the pronunciation of "strathspey"

@QueenFondue 5 жыл бұрын

TEENAGE. MUTANT. NINJA. TURTLES. Yeah let's stick to the eighth notes for that one

@rayazkhan9498 3 жыл бұрын

Like so much of your work, I really really appreciate this video! I want to somewhat push back on your claim at 7:08. Maybe West African speech patterns don't lend themselves to this rhythmic structure, but West African hand drumming certainly does! In particular, I've heard it used loads in djembe parts, so I just hesitate to call this pattern a "Scotch Snap", as if its origination is totally knowable. This is also meant to push back on the entailment that traces the Scotch Snap to Appalachia where it then influenced African American music. We can more easily identify it documented in European music for all sorts of reasons that have to do with documentation (and power relations), but that doesn't confirm its absence elsewhere even earlier! I'm far from an expert, so I'm not saying I know anything for certain. But if you had comments on this line of thinking, I'd like to know.

@oranmacphersonraffell8966 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, a Scottish musician here. I enjoyed learning about the relationship between music and language, it is a topic that fascinated me without me even knowing it. However I have some problems with some of the Scottish music facts in the video. 1. I’ve never heard the rhythm being called a ‘Scotch Snap’ before. In my experiences, they are always called a ‘Tacum’ because when you say the word ta-cum in the rhythm it sounds similar to how it sounds on the instrument (specifically bagpipes). On a side note, pipers have developed a whole language that encompasses every note and embellishment that allows us to sing melodies. (Called Canntaireachd) 2. A Strathspey (pronounced Strath-spay) is slightly different to how Adam explains it. Strathspeys are their own type of tune, like a march, jig or horn pipe etc. They are distinctive because of a pulse present in all of them. The 1st beat of a bar of 4/4 will be accented heavily, the 3rd will have a medium accent, and the 2nd and 4th will be weak. There is no ‘Strathspey rhythm.’ 3. Despite the cultural connection. I don’t believe that Scottish traditional music is directly inspiring trap rap. In classic hip hop (presumably the ancestor of trap) the rhythm, especially in such high density, is rare. I think it is just something that makes for a catchy vocal melody that’s easy to sing. It’s a new comment on an old video, but if Adam sees this, I would be delighted if he could make more videos on Scottish music, it is a fascinating field of music. If anybody’s interested, I like the artist Iain Morrison. He plays his own brand of trad music, singing with some spoken word in Gaelic and English. iainmorrison.bandcamp.com/album/haunted-bird-with-daibhidh-martin kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5acl7Np2qulk6s.html

@georgias9153 3 жыл бұрын

I was taught it’s called scotch snap when I learned to play The Dark Island on fiddle as a kid in school in Scotland.

@getsugaallen6612 Жыл бұрын

Someone debunked this video on reddit bad linguistic

@RudyAyoub 5 жыл бұрын

Dude its been driving me insane Thanks for making this

@pierreandferb 5 жыл бұрын

notice senpai pls

@456asd654 5 жыл бұрын

we talk in the rhythm of Meshuggah - Bleed

@putridabomination 5 жыл бұрын

Hey bro

@I-OMusic 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Adam, a Scot here. Just hearing the scotch snap played on fiddle like in the examples you gave brings up the trauma of having to dance almost exclusively to that instead of... Normal music... At our highschool dances. Going back to Sungazer in the background is almost calming.

@highimpactsexualviolence5512 5 жыл бұрын

That sounds like hell.

@auravulpes 3 жыл бұрын

If anyone coming back to this video or coming across this video for the first time is curious about what the deal with that nPVI formula actually is, it calculates to nPVI for a sentence of m syllables. The 100/(m-1) is the normalization bit, what makes it the *normalized* pairwise variability index. It allows a meaningful comparison between sentences of different lengths. The rest of it is a sum (Σ) over all but one syllable that first does the difference in the length of two consecutive syllables (d_k - d_{k+1}), divides it by the average length of the two syllables ((d_k + d_{k+1}) / 2), then makes sure it's positive (the |absolute value bars| around the whole thing). It does it from the first syllable (k=1) to the second to last syllable (m-1), which covers the difference between every pair of consecutive syllables (so, [1{2][3}4] kinda thing; there's no syllable after the last one to compare the last one to).

@jestemkwita 4 жыл бұрын

For me, I'm from Poland, Your accent is very understanding. That I still watching Your movies for practice language 😊

@hess925 5 жыл бұрын

When are you going to get a PBS show, man? You're like the Alton Brown of music theory.

@forentertainment3259 5 жыл бұрын

Now I can't help but read your name in scotch snap Adam Neely

@samwallaceart288 5 жыл бұрын

Hey! Mi-chael, Ste-vens, V-SAUCE

@ilokikoval 5 жыл бұрын

@@samwallaceart288 Haha, I'm dying. You made my day.

@breadbah 5 жыл бұрын

Adahn Naily

@No-ls7gk 5 жыл бұрын

Gregory Laffan is that how you think we say his name lmao ...

@BarryNisbet 3 жыл бұрын

So interesting! Even within Scotland we have different 'snaps' in the fiddle/strathspey music of different regions, and these do correspond to the traditional languages in those regions.

@alexweets1190 2 жыл бұрын

Oh this is absolutely what makes the “getcho f***in hands up” part of All Eyes on Me by Bo Burnham sooooo catchy

@joshwoerdeman2571 5 жыл бұрын

Linguistics AND music theory? It's like this video was made for me.

@martin9128 5 жыл бұрын

As someone from NE Scotland with a broad accent I'd never noticed this cadence in how I speak but now I cant help but notice lol

@dylanmcdowell3894 4 жыл бұрын

>Accent >never >noticed >cadence Literally all [potentially] scottish snaps, especially "never noticed."

@izzy040289 4 жыл бұрын

Did you notice how he pronounced Strathspey tho??

@ryanst4623 4 жыл бұрын

@@izzy040289 Strathsby *retches*

@nitorishogiplayer3465 4 жыл бұрын

As a linguistics graduate I'm surprised how abundant you reference linguistics in your videos. I remember you saying you think language influences music but I didn't expect so much in depth ling analogies in your videos.

@drazlet 5 жыл бұрын

Nothing is more satisfying than finding your niche. Listening to this while I put on my sheets and feeling that sensation in your chest of “Holy shit, this is like, ME” is one I wish I could bottle up. I would love to see more musicology as it pertains to language and human idiosyncrasies. Love this video

@thebreakfastmenu 5 жыл бұрын

I'm deeply inspired to make a trap version of TMNT now

@leviticus6896 5 жыл бұрын

Dooooo iiiiit Post it I be down to listen

@thebreakfastmenu 5 жыл бұрын

Levi Shaw working on it

@leviticus6896 5 жыл бұрын

@@thebreakfastmenu gonna be LIT

@thebreakfastmenu 5 жыл бұрын

Levi Shaw Aaaand it's up on my channel. it's terrible. but I did it.

@Seth9809 5 жыл бұрын

That was less a remix and more a guy being sucked into something dark.

@JoakimKanon 5 жыл бұрын

Alternative explanation: Rihanna released Umbrella, and here we are now.

@richardadams7667 5 жыл бұрын

Simple. Okhams razor suggests your suggestion must be correct.

@josephinelee9270 5 жыл бұрын

elementary, my dear Watson

@hoopsiedee546 5 жыл бұрын

the accuracy

@KL-zt6jx 5 жыл бұрын

Or. Hold on. They all love Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

@eoincampbell1584 5 жыл бұрын

@@richardadams7667 The problem is that Rihanna didn't come up with the Scotch Snap in that song. Maybe she popularized it in Hip Hop but the theory in the video can still be correct.

@david_aria 5 жыл бұрын

Adam I just wanted to say that you've completely won me over, over the years. I used to be unsure but you've reaaaally hit your stride lately and brought fantastic forms of music education to the world. Congratulations on being such an amazing content creator- you deserve one of the top spots on KZfaq, bar none. Thanks and keep it up!! Crazy inspiring.

@detectivewiggles 3 жыл бұрын

I am consistently amazed at how well you can explain pretty technical concepts in a way that makes perfect sense to me as someone who knows almost nothing about music

@jaseneffendy17 5 жыл бұрын

Damn I actually learned something that I can understand lol

@bryanleigh6497 5 жыл бұрын

Now try running through the videos argument in detail! Speech rhythms affect music rhythms. Got that. 😀

@KindredBrujah 5 жыл бұрын

Now go watch his one on odd time signatures!

@inhumanundead 5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, the perfect intersection of music theory and linguistics, the two things I'm extremely stoked on. Good work as always, Adam.

@SkeepyJeepyJohnson 5 жыл бұрын

I love that this video was informative simply for the purpose of exploring something interesting. You didn't put anyone down or try to make a statement about anything other than the fact that language influences music. This is too rare in today's KZfaq. Thanks!

@frislander4299 3 жыл бұрын

Also NB it's not exclusively English either that has the short-stressed trochaic foot, it's also found in Scottish Gaelic, which is why the Scotch Snap is so universal in Scottish folk as it crosses the language barrier. It's all over the place in Waulking songs and Puirt à Beul for instance.

@orderinchaos 5 жыл бұрын

Genuinely curious what an Australian accent would lead to... probably explains why our hip-hop culture has never really worked.

@PratzStrike 5 жыл бұрын

I dunno. You guys have Hilltop Hoods, whom I've always thought were one of the best rap acts on the planet, not just Australia.

@Shaqiliciouss 5 жыл бұрын

you have beautiful musical culture despite not having much of a hip hop scene kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJtoiZWnqJ-pgJc.html

@ryanoutram7059 5 жыл бұрын

imo Aussie hip-hop has (unfortunately) never really developed its own voice, as producers by and large focus on copying American and English rap acts. Given this video's content, it makes sense why that doesn't work very well, as well as why the notable Aussie rap acts sound nothing but, well, Aussie (even without considering the accent)

@andrew7955 5 жыл бұрын

Look up lachnes he's pretty good Aussie rap

@howva 5 жыл бұрын

I feel like Baker Boy and if any rhythms of yolnu matha is reflected in his English rapping as well

@conciliator6440 5 жыл бұрын

thanks, I now feel much more confident about tapping trap rap scotch snaps to make my tracks slap

@michabartuzi1486 4 жыл бұрын

This is literally one of your best vids, idk why but it just is, the topic, your explanation of it, just awesome stuff!

@benc505 5 жыл бұрын

Your videos are always awesome and knowledge filled, but this one is exceptionally good! Keep it up, Adam. You ... bass!

@subbbass 5 жыл бұрын

put yo' > pinky >rings up > to the > moon (24k Magic, Bruno Mars)

@alecwoodruffmusic 5 жыл бұрын

*love react*

@jcunningham8041 5 жыл бұрын

this is exactly what I was thinking of

@kimseniorb 5 жыл бұрын

But its in triplets isn’t it

@subbbass 5 жыл бұрын

@@kimseniorb no, I hear no triplets. The subdivision in this song is 16ths.

@roadtonever 5 жыл бұрын

Back in 2016 before this rhythm was overused.

@kasares17 5 жыл бұрын

Adam that ending. Claps in 7/11.

@thomasswoodward 4 жыл бұрын

I've watched so much of your content during quarantine. At this point it feels like you're the smart musical friend I never had. Thanks, I think.

@PaBsKb95 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that he called it dembow and not tumpa tumpa made my life. Thank you Adam

@TheDominator 5 жыл бұрын

but what about scotch tape in hip hop?

@WangleLine 5 жыл бұрын

Is that an image of our beloved Chito in your profile picture? :3

@TheDominator 5 жыл бұрын

yes

@gabriel77196 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheDominator o shit waddup didn't expect dominator on a adam neely video

@Armakk 5 жыл бұрын

Sticky topic, despite much transparency. Fingerprints all over it.

@michaelcraig9449 5 жыл бұрын

Tape is most important! They should tape over the mouths of the idiot rap morons. Keep tapin'!!

@harrisipock9112 5 жыл бұрын

There's something extremely satisfying about the hook in "Walk it Talk it," which employs Lombard rhythms/Scotch snaps that slowly morph into straight sixteenth notes. Any thoughts on this?

@henrysouthall8738 5 жыл бұрын

The opposite happens in Juice WRLD’s contribution to Nuketown by Ski Mask the Slump God. He says “cut throat cut throat” in sixteenth notes then changes to scotch snaps for “nuts tho nuts tho” I find it interesting but not as satisfying as the Walk It Talk It hook

@allarddijkstra11 5 жыл бұрын

Nice catch, didn’t even notice it while listening

@will_silvano 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Absolutely fascinated by both music and language!

@joshuaperkins9916 Жыл бұрын

Very well presented, always enjoy your videos. I’m glad to see one on this particular subject. When you look at the shared musical traditions of Britain and Ireland you’ll see everything from dance, line out church singing, forms of scat, shifting modes with flats, and number of ballads that helped to shape a lot of popular music styles.

@nc0607 5 жыл бұрын

Alright Adam Neely will officially have a wikifeet page

@saltysandwiches3554 5 жыл бұрын

You just taught me so much, buddy

@geoffreybenedict2075 5 жыл бұрын

Ha, I was thinking the same thing. Does that make me strange? Yes. Yes it does.

@bluetannery1527 5 жыл бұрын

as a spanish speaker.... surprisingly good accent i rate a solid 7.6/10

@equisde8721 5 жыл бұрын

te quie row

@hyperbiscuit2284 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks to this video, I dedicated a small portion of my songwriting efforts to finding a way to effectively incorporate this vocal rhythm into something really heavy, and I'm proud to say that I have succeeded in adding this vocal rhythm into a thrash metal song. So thanks Adam for making this video.

@paradoxelle481 4 жыл бұрын

This video has all my favorite things! Music theory and linguistics and how they tie in together!

@josephinefaoro7414 5 жыл бұрын

Dude.. I know 0 things about language or music but u are making me feel so smart. Im gonna send this video to my friends and by proxy they will think im cool hopefully

@MichaelTiemann 5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Lin Manuel Miranda's use of Scotch Snaps in Hamilton: A-L, E-X, A-N, D E-R-we are-meant to be

@theaddictofgaming9174 5 жыл бұрын

Yep Yep Yep

@binface9 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it's a coincidence that Hamilton is a town in Scotland

@victoriabell9546 5 жыл бұрын

"A colony that runs independently..." Sorry. I had to. I just had to. But nice ear, though.

@theaddictofgaming9174 5 жыл бұрын

@@victoriabell9546 Brittin keeps shittin on us endlessly.

@patgarner 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Adam! Your videos are such a joy!

@denisefrickey9349 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to my friend and fellow band-mate, Brittany for sending me here. We are members of a Scottish Strathspey and Reel band, and this is just wonderfully informative. Subscribed!

@walterm127 5 жыл бұрын

7 Rings and Pretty Boy Swag next to each other. The sneak diss.

@dzinypinydoroviny 5 жыл бұрын

The Czech composer Leoš Janáček was known for notating the sounds of the local dialect (within the city of Brno, where the dialect completely changes the sound of the language) onto the sleeve of his shirt.

@stevenpanacek299 5 жыл бұрын

This was really awesome adam, thank you. Curious how much research went into this! Loved the inclusion of various sources and angles on the subject.

@drychaf 5 жыл бұрын

Very well explained and informative, and so well crafted, illustrating all the points made. And then all that back-up info in your notes too. No wonder you have that incredible number of subscribers. I'm now one of them.

@czarcasmo 5 жыл бұрын

You just blew my mind with this video. Thank you so much for all your hard work and thoughtfulness.

@juli5770 5 жыл бұрын

you are like the Vsauce of music, and i love it

@pietart3596 5 жыл бұрын

Vsauce is like a scale for youtubers Yes, pun intended.

@pocariepic 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! What a thorough break down, thank you Adam!

@MichaelMacco 5 жыл бұрын

One of the more fascinating videos. Thanks, Adam!

@snakeinmyboots8237 5 жыл бұрын

well... now I can never say "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" without a hot trap beat playing every time I say it.

@jauxro 4 жыл бұрын

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@PabloskyS84 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! you totally avoided saying the word "reggaeton" xD ¡Saludos!

@thekramer1097 5 жыл бұрын

Yo diría que eso es algo bueno no?

@PabloskyS84 5 жыл бұрын

O sea, no creo que esté mal decir, si hablas de música latina, que ese ritmo se asocia principalmente al reggaetón. Me parece solo que es más preciso que decir "hip hop y pop caribeño" @@thekramer1097

@gxexrxmxaxnx 5 жыл бұрын

El dembow es el ritmo del reggaetón

@ItsNotAXylophone 4 жыл бұрын

ending on that coy look from April O'Neil was gold. 13 year old me just fell in love. oh.. and also, the video was super fascinating! Thanks!

@arcynical8053 Ай бұрын

I was fiddling with Guitar Pro and I noticed there was a setting for "Scottish 8ths". A little googling pointed me to scotch snaps and to this video. Good way to end up on the cool side of youtube!

@violet_broregarde 5 жыл бұрын

This is legit. More linguistics-informed videos would make me very happy

@meshuggahdave5607 5 жыл бұрын

Yo Cardi needs to come out with this track: 1:07

@Giganfan2k1 5 жыл бұрын

🔥 🔥 🔥

@juankyman8404 5 жыл бұрын

Na she needs to shut the fuck up already. She is annoying and tiresome af.

@millimetersofmercury 5 жыл бұрын

*turns on radio* aaand coming in at #1 it's Cardi B with Wonnot Buckle Too FUHHHHHHH

@AvgJoeCrowe 5 жыл бұрын

FINALLY! Was looking for songs with this rhythm because it's my particular earworm of the moment. Tried "staccato singing" to no avail.

@saoirsestark3903 4 жыл бұрын

There are really youtubers that doesn't have to ask you or suggest you to subscribe but you will anyways, not just because it's entertaining but all the more, informative and relevant.