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Scott Ostler blasts owner John Fisher on A's moving to Las Vegas

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Foul Territory

Күн бұрын

Scott Ostler of the San Francisco Chronicle joins us to talk about the owners approving the Oakland Athletics’s move to Las Vegas and how Vegas will react to their new team.
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@snuffyballparks6501
@snuffyballparks6501 9 ай бұрын
The A's owner is backed by 29 other owners. 'F' 'em.
@scottcampbell9515
@scottcampbell9515 9 ай бұрын
MLB “fans” will still defend the owners any time there are labor disputes though. So no one will F’em.
@shaindaman13
@shaindaman13 9 ай бұрын
Yep. And a spineless lot they are as well for allowing such an atrocity to be perpetrated on the A’s Faithful. It really is a sad day for O-Town. Love and hugs from a Cubbies fan to all you Guys out there. I am so sorry.
@tonycomer1415
@tonycomer1415 9 ай бұрын
@@shaindaman13 Then, why have the other professional teams left? It is not just Fisher who yes is a tool.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Burning bridges... Great, we'll never have to deal with a major league Oakland team ever again...
@spanossucks3167
@spanossucks3167 9 ай бұрын
​@@ronclark9724Jalby wannabe shill Josh Albrektson
@irismori8283
@irismori8283 9 ай бұрын
John Fisher ALSO owns the San Jose Earthquakes. Anyone who thinks that he'll invest in the A's after they move really needs to look at THAT team's payroll. There's history here.
@jetleeroy33
@jetleeroy33 9 ай бұрын
Bottom third in payroll in the league!
@ryanbros99
@ryanbros99 9 ай бұрын
Their excuse now is that an 8 year old stadium is “outdated”
@irismori8283
@irismori8283 9 ай бұрын
@@ryanbros99 Of course it is *sarcasm font*
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
Yet 3 years ago they were in the playoffs 3 years in a row.@@jetleeroy33
@maxvigildombeck5999
@maxvigildombeck5999 Ай бұрын
⁠@@user-ih7hq3es1sthe earthquakes have made the playoffs 5 times since John fisher took over in 2008. 2010, 2012, 2017, 2020, and 2023
@pinverarity
@pinverarity 9 ай бұрын
The A’s drew 2 million people in 2014 (in 80 games). This isn’t a failed franchise. It’s a torpedoed franchise.
@davec7433
@davec7433 9 ай бұрын
@Foul Territory. Pleassssse keep reporting on this topic. Oakland A’s fans appreciate your exposure and opinions.
@azcardguy7825
@azcardguy7825 9 ай бұрын
What makes me even more sick is that EVERY SINGLE other owner approved this move. Just shows their greed.
@Julian_Wallis
@Julian_Wallis 9 ай бұрын
Not even greed. Just stupidity.
@JustDontPls
@JustDontPls 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t even say greed it was more or less they’re tired of this constant stuff with relocation for the A’s sadly …. But greed also has a part as well
@TheMetal213
@TheMetal213 9 ай бұрын
The other 29 owners probably are just tired of their teams traveling to that dump of a ballpark 😂
@stillsixstudios
@stillsixstudios 9 ай бұрын
I think it's more the optics they needed to have it be unanimous or it would backfire. There's not much of a plan and they can't all be that stupid. It's not greed because they're not getting a relocation fee. They must be loaning Fisher the $ under the table. Or they just want to see him fail?
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
​@hunterosophy more like bad business.
@Tvsnumber1fan
@Tvsnumber1fan 9 ай бұрын
I think it’s high time for the United States Congress to get involved and pass a bill that does two things: 1. Get rid of MLB’s antitrust exemption so MLB is more accountable to the fans and so teams are less likely to relocate on a whim. 2. To end all public subsidies for stadiums because new stadiums do not benefit the wider economy in anyway and as such sport teams should be getting their financing from sources such as investment banks, banks, becoming a public traded company, other businesses like the Walt Disney Company Walt Disney Company(Owns 80% of ESPN and fully owns the ABC Television Network), Hearst Communications (Owns 20% of ESPN), Comcast (Owns the NBC Television Network), Paramount (Owner of The CBS Television Network), Fox Corporation (Owns Fox Broadcasting Company, and Fox Sports) and Target, and from friends and family members. That way the taxpayers are not on the hook for the construction of the stadium if something goes wrong. It might even end the practice of teams relocating to other markets because a city, county or state are unwilling to give public funding. It would also end the practice of mayors having to backtrack and support public funding because they base wants it and if they don’t backtrack they could lose the next election. So these are the two things that Congress needs to do in a Bill that regulates sports teams in the way they get funding for stadiums. The current model is unsustainable and could even lead to cities, counties and even states to go bankrupt because they cannot afford basic costs because they have spent so much on stadiums for billionaire owners. So this needs to be done ASAP. However I am not holding my breath.
@elisemariecollinsyoga5905
@elisemariecollinsyoga5905 9 ай бұрын
Yes!!
@CaptJP2
@CaptJP2 9 ай бұрын
As a Met fan, I can truly say that if the Mets left NYC, I would not become a Yankees fan.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 9 ай бұрын
Nobody is leaving New York City
@CaptJP2
@CaptJP2 9 ай бұрын
Using it as an hypothetical example . I do know that no team is leaving NYC. The hypothetical arose when there was speculation in the video of A's fans converting into Giants fans. Some surely will but many won't. I hope that clears things up. @@michaelleroy9281
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
@@michaelleroy9281 The Dodgers and Giants did...
@Emancipatriot
@Emancipatriot 9 ай бұрын
I was a white sox fan. But I have been following this for over a year. I’m done with MLB. Unanimous vote means any of these owners would sell out their fan base. Any and all of them.
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 9 ай бұрын
@@Emancipatriot ah a black Sox fan. You’re franchise threw a word series.
@USC9210
@USC9210 9 ай бұрын
I can not believe the MLB Owners are foregoing the relocation fee.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Shows how much the MLB owners think of the decrepit substandard condition of the Coliseum...
@mthystrup
@mthystrup 9 ай бұрын
As a A’s fan I will NEVER support or go to Giants games.
@DarkJak2050
@DarkJak2050 9 ай бұрын
If that's how MLB owners are, that's it. No more MLB for me.
@MellowGus
@MellowGus 9 ай бұрын
Ty for getting scott on! One of the few columnists in the bay area whose been very critical of the Giants & A’s
@XaviRonaldo0
@XaviRonaldo0 9 ай бұрын
The last thing the super rich want is an educated populace. Educated people are far harder to exploit.
@metaltech3944
@metaltech3944 9 ай бұрын
Why can't these billionaire's paid for their own stadiums? They sure as hell make enough money.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
I once recall a Connie Mack who owned the A's that did own the stadium, he even lived in it. Sadly after the A's bankruptcy, his aires sold the stadium to the Phillies when the A's relocated to Kansas City. When the Phillies moved into their new stadium that old decrepit stadium wasn't worth much. Nobody wanted a old stadium, just the land under it... Old decrepit stadiums have very little value... And you wonder why no billionaire desires to build new stadiums for their fans enjoyment? Most businesses don't own their buildings, they lease them from land developers with strings to the local government... Now you know why... Business 101, Real Estate 101... And you wonder why most old decrepit stadiums are demolished?
@Emancipatriot
@Emancipatriot 9 ай бұрын
Because they will use other cities as leverage. Publicly financed stadiums are a scam anyways. They dont do much for the community.
@JAMorgan2002
@JAMorgan2002 9 ай бұрын
Billionaire welfare.
@evilamo
@evilamo 9 ай бұрын
Joe Lacob was robbed from buying the A's... The city of Oakland should sue MLB. St Louis got millions back from the NFL
@TheGumbyRules
@TheGumbyRules 9 ай бұрын
Saint Louis got an extravagant amount from the NFL after the league screwed the city over
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 9 ай бұрын
@@TheGumbyRules How much did St. Louis pay LA for stealing the rams in 1995? Leaving the #2 market for St. Louis was a stupid move.
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
​@805fillmore at least St. Louis had a great fanbase/ support unlike LA.
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
Also, Cleveland sued the NFL after the OG Browns relocated to Baltimore and eventually got their team back.
@salg.7718
@salg.7718 9 ай бұрын
You also forgot what happend to Reggie Jackson , he really got screwed , he had the money and the offer was on the table , and that fuck selig screwed him over. Look up the interview with Reggie and he explains it.
@theathlete1903
@theathlete1903 9 ай бұрын
Just more proof Manfred is without a shadow of a doubt, ruining baseball gear by year and it’s just being allowed!
@santiagoandujar2518
@santiagoandujar2518 9 ай бұрын
Baseball has been in a downward spiral ever since 1992... when the owners replaced Fay Vincent with Bud Selig. Now with "Manfraud" ruining the game, it'll only be a matter of time before MLB crashes ( figuratively speeking).
@lovejoyb20
@lovejoyb20 9 ай бұрын
As horrid as John Fisher is, and you can throw Arte Moreno in there to some degree, I can't believe that MLB owners actually believe John Fisher is going to change a damn thing in Las Vegas. Instead, I prefer to believe this is the MLB owners washing their hands of all responsibility for John Fisher's incompetence/indifference. I would much rather believe this is MLB telling John Fisher they're calling his bluff (Vegas pun totally intended) and leaving it completely in his hands to fuck up the whole deal. John Fisher will not be able to finance the stadium, which will be a completely inadequate design anyway given the site limitations. John Fisher is a joke, and MLB has moved the spotlight focus to the failure that John Fisher will continue to be. MLB would never vote to force a sale directly because of the valid "what if I'm next" fear. Now John Fisher is free to expose his incompetence completely. Nothing about this will grow the game of baseball. You have an owner that will not spend, moving into a proposed stadium that CAN NOT meet the attendance goals they have presented, in a market that will not support the garbage that the A's are, and isn't big enough to provide 1/10th of the TV deal the A's are abandoning. Angels fans will remain Angels fans. Dodgers fans will remain Dodgers fans. D-Backs and Padres fans will remain D-Backs and Padres fans. The only fanbase that will change in the A's. They will disappear.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Oakland could have kept the A's, all they had to do was BUILD A NEW STADIUM! This isn't rocket science, BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME. Easy peasy...
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 9 ай бұрын
​@@ronclark9724it's not that simple. YOU might think so but the days of cities building for billionaire a stadium should end and forced to do it themselves since they got the money to do it. Don't at me troll!
@kennethyarbrough3101
@kennethyarbrough3101 9 ай бұрын
​@@violinfanatickamraz1403keep crying goofy
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 9 ай бұрын
@@kennethyarbrough3101 shut up Booker T wannabe
@robbmanchester5747
@robbmanchester5747 9 ай бұрын
The Howard Terminal stadium site is 90% ready to go - shovel in the ground ready in a year - it’s a $12-Billion project -
@jimdiaz9968
@jimdiaz9968 9 ай бұрын
It wasn’t that long ago the Frank McCourt was ousted as Dodger owner. Why can’t this be done to Fisher?
@santiagoandujar2518
@santiagoandujar2518 9 ай бұрын
Fisher is a buddy of "Manfraud" Manfred ( rumored to be an attorney who has some association with him). Secondly, "Manfraud" seems to be too spineless to do anything for the good of baseball, except for making a legacy for himself by changing/adding rules or gimmicks to the game.
@seanmiles6991
@seanmiles6991 9 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this is a serious question of yours. You know there’s a huge difference between Los Angeles and Oakland. LA Dodgers plays in an area, that has 2 to 3 times of the population of Oakland, that’s for one, not to mention look at how many celebrities go to Dodgers games. Heck the Dodgers is partially owned by one Magic J. Then I can even bring up the point of tv ratings and attendance even. I’ll only bring up road attendance, the LA Dodgers are a huge draw everywhere they play, not the A’s. Back to tv ratings, LA Dodgers games generally draw some of the highest tv ratings on cable or views on the MLB APP every year. Your question is illogical to the owners, cause it comes down to money and I give you several break downs as to why it isn’t the same. I said earlier I only would bring up road attendance, now that I think of it, home attendance should be brought up. The Dodgers have been in the top 3 in home attendance every year,except during the McCourt years, during the last 30 years. Basically if you’re MLB of course you’ll take action against McCourt, cause he was dragging down one the games best franchises.
@LoydChampion
@LoydChampion 9 ай бұрын
All parties in this deal are the losers, the MLB Oakland, the A's fans, State of Nevada, Clark County, and the City of Las Vegas. John Fisher however just pulled off a great grift. FYI, I'm not an A's fan, but am a baseball fan. FYI II - For those that don't know, Las Vegas is full of Dodgers, Angel's, Padres, and D-Backs fans. In fact, the Dodgers store in Las Vegas sells more stuff than any of the stores in Southern California except the Top of the Park store at Dodger Stadium. Think about it...
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Soon they will be selling A's goods...
@LoydChampion
@LoydChampion 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 Check back a year from now and lets see if that is true or not. I'm here for the F1 event this weekend and there sure are a lot of Dodgers and D-backs stuff. Haven't seen one A's shirt other than the green ones that say "SELL' across the front. FYI, one of the local Sports reporters that was here at the event's comments were "oh shit, now we'll be stuck with this Fisher guy." Not starting out on a good footing.
@pinverarity
@pinverarity 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 Right. Of course they will. Why, the jerseys will be flying out the doors, proudly emblazoned with the names of…uh…well…y’know…all the big A’s stars of the past 10 years!
@TheGumbyRules
@TheGumbyRules 9 ай бұрын
MLB just completed the least-watched World Series ever. I'll bet most Americans don't even know which teams were in it. So how does MLB follow this up? By alienating thousands of the best fans in MLB.
@kennethyarbrough3101
@kennethyarbrough3101 9 ай бұрын
It's not about most Americans goofy it's about baseball fans who knows clown now what fuckboy 😂
@Kensf25
@Kensf25 9 ай бұрын
You guys need to get both Brodie Brazil and Casey Pratt on here too!
@setrist4620
@setrist4620 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely bring Brodie on!
@douglaslindsey7512
@douglaslindsey7512 9 ай бұрын
Why?
@KingTone510
@KingTone510 9 ай бұрын
​@@douglaslindsey7512why not?
@douglaslindsey7512
@douglaslindsey7512 9 ай бұрын
Brodie is not going to address the root causes of why the A's are leaving Oakland. @@KingTone510
@azcardguy7825
@azcardguy7825 9 ай бұрын
This is an embarrassment for baseball… MLB should have forced him to sell the team
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
MLB wants the A's out of Oakland.
@510MyTube
@510MyTube 9 ай бұрын
RIP MLB
@astrosjer822
@astrosjer822 9 ай бұрын
Fisher is like the clown owner that killed the Expos and nearly killed the Marlins…..Jeffrey Loria
@metaltech3944
@metaltech3944 9 ай бұрын
Amen brother
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately fans don't get to choose their team's owners or the management or the players....
@BrainHealth-md8wx
@BrainHealth-md8wx 9 ай бұрын
So true…Loria was terrible and he and the corrupt Bud Selig purposely destroyed the Expos! To get a team in DC and Loria Marlins owner
@metaltech3944
@metaltech3944 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 sad but true
@Shoelessjoe78
@Shoelessjoe78 9 ай бұрын
He still killed the Marlins. That franchise is a disaster.
@pringlized
@pringlized 9 ай бұрын
I might have to convert to being a Guardians fan. Go Stephen Vogt!
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 9 ай бұрын
sf giants owner voted yes. 'Nuff Said. 😡😡
@brentduanefoster
@brentduanefoster 9 ай бұрын
And they think that Oakland fans are switch over to the Giants??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@danielplainview926
@danielplainview926 9 ай бұрын
Enjoy your cookie cutter stadium and 100+ losses, Vegas. You've been warned. No sympathy from me
@phillv
@phillv 9 ай бұрын
no one will care, it will be more visiting fans at the games...just like the raiders
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
neither of these will be true. The new field at the" Trop" will have a lot of casino money invested.
@AddicTxSniping
@AddicTxSniping 9 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for telling it how it is!
@Leftylobber
@Leftylobber 9 ай бұрын
This is so corrupt that Kennesaw Mountain-Landis just farted in his grave
@kevinblatter2369
@kevinblatter2369 9 ай бұрын
Avid A's fan here. I will never be a Giants fan. Never.
@long-time-first-time
@long-time-first-time 9 ай бұрын
Why would A's fans support the Giants now? The Giants owner voted for the move. Eff the Giants.
@oiler62
@oiler62 9 ай бұрын
Giants attendance way down. Few A's fan switching over. I will never go to a game there now.
@edubske
@edubske 9 ай бұрын
You guys should talk to Brodie Brazil, Casey Pratt, or Damon Bruce. They can shed a lot more light on the situation and fan perspective here in the Bay Area that the nation should be aware of.
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
How about Zennie62. he's the only one holding the Oakland city government accountable for there failure in the Howard Terminal project. This problem goes all the back to Jerry Brown for a new stadium . It's not all John Fisher. Zennie62 on You Tube
@brentduanefoster
@brentduanefoster 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ih7hq3es1sYou mean that guy who has basically said, "Give Fisher what he wants!!!" Yeah, NO!!!!
@JernEye
@JernEye 9 ай бұрын
As the father of an 8 year old boy who's an A's fan, he has been going to games since he was 3. He was totally gutted by the news of the unanimous approval for relocation. He's sworn off the team from next season on, and refuses to jump on board as a Giants fan. Fortunately, he does love the Cubs, which is gonna be a mini vacation for us to attend any games. We will be attending an Opening Day boycott in the parking lot of the Coliseum. Just to add to the energy, and stand in solidarity with our town, OAKLAND.
@maje.883
@maje.883 9 ай бұрын
There is no way As fans will root for the giants, that's like saying raiders fans rooting for the niners lol
@chrisweidner4768
@chrisweidner4768 9 ай бұрын
There is no viable plan for a stadium in Las Vegas. Seems like the entire affair will be a shitshow. Thinking, unless they move to a different site, no stadium will be built. I heard fans in Vegas do not want a Fisher team. What a mess.
@tubasungod
@tubasungod 9 ай бұрын
NO! THEY WERE ONLY $80 MILLION APART AT THE HOWARD TERMINAL SITE! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
@hc1883
@hc1883 9 ай бұрын
don't forget the city of oakland spent hundreds of millions in the mid 1990s to renovate both the oakland coliseum and oakland arena & those two deals basically blew up in their faces which the city is still paying for til this day coliseum renovations - 200 million, 375 million in today's dollars arena renovations - 120 million, 235 million in today's dollars basically 600 million in 2023 dollars money spent to renovate two sports venues in a few years span of one another and two teams were leaving even before the a's chose their waterfront site in nov 2018 you can see why oakland city govt was hesitant to spend anymore public money on another sports venue yet they've raised what the a's initially asked for in infrastructure money in public grants to get the ballpark built, 400+ million, with more on the way and when the a's did finally pick a ballpark site in oakland in nov of 2018 instead of fremont or san jose which are two areas of the bay area they set their eyes for almost a decade previously since 2006, the pandemic hit and delayed everything for almost 2 years what then changed? like most things now everything got more expensive and more importantly GAP stock has plummeted so this idiot cheap owner can't afford his massive 12 billion dollar project anymore that he initially wanted, even though he could've downsized the waterfront project near downtown oakland to make it cheaper and more affordable as the city of oakland has made it clear and stated if all the a's wanted was a ballpark with a smaller baseball village and development surrounding the venue they were more than fine with that option and if later the entire full development could've been built out when it made more financial sense, then again do it but when vegas came in throwing hundreds of millions of free public money at him ... the nepo baby finally found his new sugar daddy to help pay for a new ballpark that again he can't afford on his own be it in oakland or even las vegas blame the real reason why the a's are leaving oakland ... this cheap nepo baby owner who hasn't done anything to attract or keep fans to the ballpark for nearly the 20 years since he's owned the team telling his GM to sell off star player anytime they became too expensive hell look at the MLS team in san jose that he owns and how they've been routinely in the bottom 1/4 in team payroll and in the standings since he bought the team even after getting a new stadium in the 2015 which recently the org said is "outdated", again who's fault is that they came up with an outdated design ... again don't blame oakland and certainly not the a's fans locally who've dealt with probably one of the worst if not the worst owner in all of pro sports here in the USA ... every fan base has their breaking point and a's fans have had many over the last 20-25 years with multiple cheap ownerships who did nothing to build and keep consistent winners around and were more interesting in the bottom line of fattening up their wallets as much as they could
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
None of the reno helped the A's. All for Raiders and Warriors
@Eastbay41510
@Eastbay41510 9 ай бұрын
Aye foul territory you got. New subscriber from a Oakland A’s fan now a sf giants imma Bay Area boy thanks for covering and sticking up for us
@ashleyberdosh6025
@ashleyberdosh6025 9 ай бұрын
Makes me sick to lose my beloved A’s. All we needed was a new owner. My heart is broken.
@jamesgonzalez6548
@jamesgonzalez6548 9 ай бұрын
This is a sad day for all baseball fans. It showed how easily the owners will conspire to get their way. To approve this with no idea where the team will play when they leave the Colosseum, no renderings of what the Vegas stadium will look like, no media deal in Vegas and no real enthusiasm in Vegas for this move in nonsensical and a grift. How long will it be before we see this in other cities? Is Milwaukee next? Very sad day for the fans.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Oakland could have BUILT A NEW STADIUM! Build it, they will come. This isn't rocket science. Easy peasy...
@jamesgonzalez6548
@jamesgonzalez6548 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 Oakland raised more money than Vegas and secured more land than the nine acres on a hotel parking lot. This whole process was rushed because Fisher would have been removed from revenue sharing if he did not have a stadium deal by the end of the year.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 9 ай бұрын
​@@jamesgonzalez6548yep. And vagfish loves the welfare money. F Ron Clark and eff MLB and vagfish.
@kennethyarbrough3101
@kennethyarbrough3101 9 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure it would look way better than the Coliseum especially for a billion dollars goofy dude 😂
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 9 ай бұрын
@@kennethyarbrough3101 Fisher wasted his fortune. Keep backing corrupt owners Booker T wannabe.
@tissueboy76
@tissueboy76 9 ай бұрын
What you guys are missing is even citizens of Las Vegas and its surrounding suburbs don’t want the A’s.
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 9 ай бұрын
Oakland doesn’t want them either
@Jake-yx7ct
@Jake-yx7ct 9 ай бұрын
Am I wrong to believe that way back in the early days of MLB owners buildingt their own yards The Oakland debacle was an example of a good entertainment getting way too large for its own good. Oakland can now address more important issues such as homelessness and Fisherr will still be trying to get Vegas to bail him out with a stadium.
@tlava66
@tlava66 9 ай бұрын
Lol....homelessness isn't a good take at all. It's everywhere in California. There are homeless shooting up drugs and crapping in the streets in San Francisco right in front of homes that cost $5,000 a month to live in.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
Apparenly like the city government of Oakland, you don't think a MLB team is precious. Or a NFL team, or a NBA team, or a NHL team... Oakland, the only city in America that has LOST all of its major league teams... Oakland sucks...
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 9 ай бұрын
​@@ronclark9724I bet you've never been there. I have and it's not nearly as bad as everyone says.
@someguy7222
@someguy7222 9 ай бұрын
Naw... Not having the A's isn't going to magically solve or even divert meaningful funds to do much. And why can't we have both? Attention to serious issues and MLB (other cities can, why not us?) It's not either or it's also and
@805fillmore
@805fillmore 9 ай бұрын
@@violinfanatickamraz1403 So would you live there?
@scottcampbell9515
@scottcampbell9515 9 ай бұрын
The economic impact this will have on Oakland will be disastrous.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
All Oakland had to do was BUILD A NEW STADIUM! Build a new stadium, they will come! This isn't rocket science. Easy peasy...
@brentduanefoster
@brentduanefoster 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724Translation: Kowtow to selfish, GREEDY BILLIONAIRES who puts NO INVESTMENT into his team. Yeah, NAH!!!! If Vegas wants that headache, I hope they have ibuprofen strong enough to deal with it.
@Emancipatriot
@Emancipatriot 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 they had the money and the land (more than 9 acres too) … fisher kept moving the goal post. Now I know you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@TheGumbyRules
@TheGumbyRules 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 Yes, all struggling Oakland had to do was hit the taxpayers up for billions of dollars for a new stadium for a multibillion-dollar baseball league that should be paying for its own stadiums.
@scottcampbell9515
@scottcampbell9515 9 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 understandable but the city did not want to commit 100% to paying for everything (and after the NBA and NFL left I don’t blame them), but the owner clearly could have built a stadium and owned all of it yet somehow did not want to do that?
@toonces4x
@toonces4x 9 ай бұрын
People actually expect Fisher to start investing... Yeah the people in Vegas are about to be disappointed and demanding a new owner. Cant say they were warned.
@salg.7718
@salg.7718 9 ай бұрын
The only thing I disagree with what Scott said, was that the giants would like the A's to say, the biggest opponents to the A's building at HT were the giants. They their people out there at city hall talking against this. Look up and you will find this.
@jcjuanis3831
@jcjuanis3831 9 ай бұрын
Scott Ostler fails to mention that Oakland, CA is a dangerous place. Plus the fans have left long before MLB decided to leave. When he says that the City of Oakland could tell the A's to take a hike when it comes to the next 2 or 3 years, speaks to his lack of understanding of the dynamic of a crumbling city and it's dealing will all sport franchises. Make a stand? Oakland isn't getting an expansion team under any circumstances. Viva la revolution Scott.
@oiler62
@oiler62 9 ай бұрын
The A's will lose so much TV money if they don't play in the bay before 2028. The Coliseum is the best place. Give the city an expansion team in return. Lacob will make it work.
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
There's other dangerous places other than Oakland. Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, etc
@brentduanefoster
@brentduanefoster 4 ай бұрын
@@kingmo8789Exactly!!! Yet, somehow, they're able to keep their teams!
@aguzman52588
@aguzman52588 9 ай бұрын
Speak! We been saying this for years but now after the move has been approved people are finally noticing
@donaldbucher472
@donaldbucher472 9 ай бұрын
Fisher, Dolan, Snyder. Every sport has at least one.
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
You forgot Kroenke and Spanos
@kturetsky
@kturetsky 9 ай бұрын
It worked out ok for Toronto play in Buffalo for two years
@optimisticasfan
@optimisticasfan 9 ай бұрын
Devastated
@chaosimproved
@chaosimproved 9 ай бұрын
This will make thousands of A’s fans give up on MLB. Like myself. I’m done if they move. They have no loyalty to me why should I have loyalty to them?
@someguy7222
@someguy7222 9 ай бұрын
Fisher takes the A's to Las Vegas. As a favor to waiving the relocation fee, the organization takes on a new identity & name (that Vegas would prefer) A's play at the Coliseum while the construction goes on in LV MLB allows a new owner to emerge (Lacob?) to buy in on the A's. While the Fisher waits for LV to complete, new ownership (for Oakland) forms an organization, and even takes advantage on the near complete negotiations for HT park (if wanted). 2028 Las Vegas has their team (formerly the A's, now the Blue Men Group...I dunno, some Las Vegas sounding name). Oakland gets a reboot under new ownership. Win - Win - Win Las Vegas wins Oakland wins MLB wins Why can't this be discussed? So doable.
@AzPoolguy
@AzPoolguy 9 ай бұрын
John Stanton of the Seattle Mariners is another piss poor owner that could be included in the equation of bad owners.
@fourthgirl
@fourthgirl 9 ай бұрын
Fisher promised during his "Rooted in Oakland" fraud tour, to build a ballpark using private funds. Then came purchasing the Coliseum properties from the County and City . He would redevelop the property to pay for the new ballpark. Renderings showed a reimagined ballpark sans Mt. Davis and upper decks to a 10K ballpark for minor or little league quality, housing, retail, new neighborhood appeal like Brooklyn Basin in Oakland. County sold its half on the premise. Then came the demand for infrastructure money (public) from Fisher. Needed $500-600 million that should come from Oakland pulling from redevelopment and transit but would get intermingled into his so-called "private funding". When Oakland asked for cost estimates for construction of the ballpark at HT, Fisher comes back with the 12 billion dollar development of towers, lux apartments, office space, hotel and retail... across active train tracks that goes to the very active shipping port. The two BART stations, West Oakland and 12th Street/City Center offer "not friendly neighborhoods" to go through and having thousands of people crossing active tracks. Then Fisher got his buddy Manfred to deem the Coliseum "not viable". No one argued that the existing stadium...and frankly the arena were not viable venues in the 21st century. The arena is over 55 years old with a 30 year old touch up. If it were about being Rooted in Oakland, a new ballpark in a timely manner and not using public dollars, then the Arena could've been demolished and new 30-35k ballpark constructed in that space. The estuary is nearby and restore the view of the Oakland hills. The only infrastructure needed would've been replacing the BART and Amtrak access ramp(s). If they wanted to keep the Arena for a while, then construct on the A&D parking lots (66th Avenue side), move parking to B&C lots (Hegenberger side). or vice versa. More options at the Coliseum properties than stupid Howard Terminal. Fisher just wanted to copy the Raiders cash grab in Vegas.
@thescott123
@thescott123 9 ай бұрын
A’s fans hate the giants and blame them. I only know one A’s fan who is becoming a giants fan
@oiler62
@oiler62 9 ай бұрын
I know none.
@LCE040490
@LCE040490 9 ай бұрын
As a St Louis nfl fan, kronke is worse
@pace5316
@pace5316 9 ай бұрын
crazy that even notorious a’s hater scott oslter is even recognizing how bad fisher is
@traci635
@traci635 7 ай бұрын
As a Red Sox fan living in Wyoming, i refuse to root for my local region Rockies because of their incompetent owner Dick Monfort. Now the Rockies don't even have a TV deal to watch them even if i wanted to. My point is, fans won't put up with greedy owners, we will simply move on to either a new team or abandon the game completely
@gregusjay
@gregusjay 9 ай бұрын
Ostler hit the nail on the head, Fisher doesn't have the resources to be an effective owner.. . including the Cash !
@astrosjer822
@astrosjer822 9 ай бұрын
They want to follow the NFL into Vegas, that is obvious
@luiul1
@luiul1 9 ай бұрын
the raiders, the As, and F1. what will vegas do to fuk up next?
@wmw3629
@wmw3629 9 ай бұрын
I’m going to love it when that desert 🌵 hellhole is out of water in the next 10 years!
@StrateTrippin
@StrateTrippin 9 ай бұрын
Oakland should say eff off and go find someplace else to play!
@brentduanefoster
@brentduanefoster 4 ай бұрын
To Ostler's point about the other owners and their unwillingness to deal with Fisher and his POOR handling of this team, failure to confront this issue simply means that they are complicit. He says that they wouldn't want to be told what to do with their ball clubs, so they just accept it. Where's the integrity? Where's the concern of how this will affect the brand? How this will affect the league? They ALL ought to be ashamed.
@nicomackie450
@nicomackie450 9 ай бұрын
leverage is a cool synonym for balckmail
@enriqueavalos
@enriqueavalos 9 ай бұрын
If Fischer can’t make it work in Oakland, how is he going to make it work in Vegas.
@mikepuncsak7297
@mikepuncsak7297 9 ай бұрын
Manfred just wants Oakland and Tampa Bay stadium issues set so he can stsart on MLB expansion
@reidbonvillain5135
@reidbonvillain5135 9 ай бұрын
At this point every city that had a team threatened to leave should just let that team leave. There is only so many places you can go that will happily accept a sports franchise. Let these franchises burn their bridges and go bankrupt because nobody would actually want them.
@jamesbyrnes1208
@jamesbyrnes1208 9 ай бұрын
Scott you'll be the 1st person begging for a Press Pass to attend Opening Day in Las Vegas...
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
Oakland losing the A's is complete asinine
@terrymitchell7714
@terrymitchell7714 9 ай бұрын
Oakland has a common denominator Fisher for Baseball, Davis for Football,. and not in a good way. Is the problem with the city or the owners it attracts?
@telephilia
@telephilia 9 ай бұрын
Mayor of Oakland apparently ready to drive a hard bargain if Fisher wants to play in Oakland until the new Vegas ballpark ready.
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
She has no juice
@SacTownLions0
@SacTownLions0 9 ай бұрын
Well said Scott!
@user-ib3py9yw9t
@user-ib3py9yw9t 9 ай бұрын
Why have Ostler on your show. He’s ripped the A’s since day one.
@paulamcdonald5446
@paulamcdonald5446 9 ай бұрын
I will be following Scott. Refreshing to see this kind of an old-school style reporter working for the Chronicle- this is a good thing! I may just need to subscribe. Love the coverage, unbiased by the years of SF Giants obstruction.
@mosinc7388
@mosinc7388 9 ай бұрын
I live in Tampa Bay and half the people here cheer for teams out of market. It's ridiculous, I could never. If the Rays left though, I'd be a Marlins fan in a heart beat. And that's way further than Oakland to San Fran
@mikepuncsak7297
@mikepuncsak7297 9 ай бұрын
Scott knows.......
@tarnel9
@tarnel9 9 ай бұрын
What's funning is that I was a New York Nets fan back in the 70s when the played in the Nassau Coliseum and then lost interest in them when they moved to Jersey. Now that there in Brooklyn... meh .. Go Knicks!
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
And the Knicks has the worst owners in the NBA LOL
@tarnel9
@tarnel9 9 ай бұрын
@kingmo8789 agreed, but Dolan actually pays his players, and the team will never move.
@roadtrip2943
@roadtrip2943 9 ай бұрын
So is aj working as a radiology tech or what
@russelltate1394
@russelltate1394 8 ай бұрын
LMAO Topic owner, how about how toxic the city of Oakland has become where the thugs run wild and absolutely NO LAW & ORDER.
@carlj12
@carlj12 9 ай бұрын
have you gotten Brodie Brazil on to talk about this? He has been covering it pretty closely out there as well
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
Brodie has very unbalanced view on the A's move. It's al Fisher, Fisher, Fisher. The city had many failures in this process. I don't know how pays him to say these things?
@ec1628
@ec1628 9 ай бұрын
Terrible news.
@WanderingWolf365
@WanderingWolf365 9 ай бұрын
The A's will thrive in Vegas for 1 simple reason. The letter A is on the Ace playing card. So a playing card with A's logo on it will sell like hotcakes in jerseys, hats and shirts. - WW
@ashleyberdosh6025
@ashleyberdosh6025 9 ай бұрын
I will never be a Giants fan! 😂
@omarcruz8635
@omarcruz8635 9 ай бұрын
Boycott the A's
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 9 ай бұрын
Oakland had nearly a Billion dollars to give to the A's and that wasn't enough. The Angels and Dodgers, Mets and Yankees and White Sox and Cubs, so the argument the Giants can't handle the A's in the Bay Area is bogus. edit; how close are the Phillies, Orioles and Nationals to each other for that matter?
@chriszenko3598
@chriszenko3598 9 ай бұрын
I’m all for the A’S staying in Oakland but the politicians dragged their feet for years. The Mets and Yankees got new stadiums in a matter of a few years no political nonsense was involved.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 9 ай бұрын
When MLB forced the Rangers to play Sunday afternoon games, the city of Arlington sold bonds to build a new stadium within a year...
@Hogtownboy1
@Hogtownboy1 9 ай бұрын
Prediction. Oakland plays in Vancouver for 3 seasons
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
Your smoking crack.
@scottcampbell9515
@scottcampbell9515 9 ай бұрын
Sadly the A’s won’t fail in Las Vegas.
@paulbelletiere
@paulbelletiere 9 ай бұрын
why won’t you guys mention and bring up the discussion about trying to take away major league, baseballs, anti-trust exemption and putting pressure on our senators and politicians to take away that exemption which is something that we truly have leverage on them and that we could take away from major league baseball, which could actually cause damageplease start mentioning the antitrust exemption
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
It would never get passed
@davidmack7298
@davidmack7298 9 ай бұрын
The Warriors left town, the Raiders left town, the Athletics left town. Oakland his to take some responsibility here.
@kingmo8789
@kingmo8789 9 ай бұрын
But the Warriors aren't that far away.
@hoapres
@hoapres 9 ай бұрын
New owner or MOVE the team. Oakland is DONE with Fisher.
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
There already leaving.
@Spinach_D
@Spinach_D 9 ай бұрын
The A’s had 97 win seasons in 2018 and 2019 and were at the bottom of attendance. Is the owner suppose to print money? What am I missing?
@KingTitan186
@KingTitan186 9 ай бұрын
Dig farther than that.
@Spinach_D
@Spinach_D 9 ай бұрын
@@KingTitan186 nah. 40 years experience watching the a’S and raiders put up good teams and not get fan support is enough. Remember the raider tv blackouts?
@deejaypee7o2
@deejaypee7o2 9 ай бұрын
Let’s be real guys, the As left because it’s so ghetto there.
@user-ih7hq3es1s
@user-ih7hq3es1s 7 ай бұрын
Can't even keep In and Out...
@tonycomer1415
@tonycomer1415 9 ай бұрын
Fisher is a bad owner yes, but Ostler is a tool for blaming it only on the owner. The fans never showed up even when the had winners. The stadium was by FAR the worse venue in sports. Lastly, look at how many teams have left Oakland. Warriors, Raiders and now A's
@jamescutler8055
@jamescutler8055 9 ай бұрын
Oakland lost all pro sports in 5 years. Couldn't happen to a nicer place.
@emodrmmr007
@emodrmmr007 9 ай бұрын
i was gonna say something about welcome to vegas here...but the thing is i really dont know if i want these guys here after all. now, i'm from seattle, so i know all about the a's when they came up to safeco field and back in the day at the kingdome. hell...the tacoma tigers right down the road is where i saw canseco, big mac, and others who were on their way to oakland come through. i gotta say that this is a damm shame for everybody. i really dont have faith in anything manfraud has to say or the other owners. the commish is not really the boss, just a yes man who is a shill and a fraud. hopefully there is expansion soon
@midnyte_tv
@midnyte_tv 9 ай бұрын
im glad to see the A's go. Oakland has never been a good home to the team and they will be able to succeed and fill their stadium in Vegas.
@whalesequence
@whalesequence 9 ай бұрын
Nah, they won't, Fisher is still in charge
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