Sonic roasting scourge calling gun a bully that takes the easy nasty way out and a Big whoop is a puré dominance move
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
lol
@kyzplz8 ай бұрын
i love scourge as a character no matter how he was made, he should be added into a series
@FantasticSamtastic8 ай бұрын
I think he could stand really well without any Evil Sonic back story
@kyzplz8 ай бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic same !! he should totally be his own character, i hate that ken penders sued sega, now they’ll never have the legal rights to use him:(
@Someguyhere1112 жыл бұрын
I love that Ian took the fact that Anti-Sonic was "just Sonic but bad", and actually made that a core factor of his motiviations for everything he does. He's tired of just being "the bad Sonic" and gives himself a new name, but doesn't stop there, and gives his entire world a new name, as well as the rest of the Anti-Freedom Fighters (renamed Supression Squad), giving them their own identities. Then he turns the whole "just Sonic but bad" thing on its head and tells Sonic that he's just one bad day from becoming just like him. The comics also showed Scourge, for all his grandstanding, was far more vulnerable than he let on. A scolding from Jules actually hit him and caused him to cry, and after spending time in the Zone Prison and being the prison bi**h, his spirit is broken and he just wants to keep his head down to avoid more trouble, actually becoming angry when Fiona arrives to try to bust him out.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say a lot of my memories of Scourge were just of him being an Edgier Sonic (which to be fair when he was just Evil Sonic that's all he really was) but rereading a lot of these comics reminded me of just how much Character they gave Scourge to the point where although being Sonic from another dimension he actually stands as his own interesting character separate from Sonic
@christophermitchell97398 ай бұрын
I love how Sonic turned it back on him, pointing out that by the same concept it'd be easy as making a few kinder choices for Scourge to improve himself.
@fnaf2isthegoat752 жыл бұрын
Imagine Scourge got to meet fleeway sonic that's essentially meeting himself but if his self was good
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I try to not remember fleetways sonic that story is wild haha
@fnaf2isthegoat752 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic to be honest I love Fleeway stories and I think evil supersonic with one of the most interesting Concepts.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
@@fnaf2isthegoat75 I can respect that! Maybe one day I'll have to take a closer look a Fleetway Sonic
@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario2 жыл бұрын
And if Xenophanes got into the same room as those two, Madness Combat!
@silveramyknux2413 ай бұрын
8:18 Context: In Mobius Prime, there once was thousands of chaos emeralds, but Tails and Shadow fused them and other emeralds from across their universe to form the 7 Chaos Emeralds. So in Moebius, since there probably wasn’t an event like that, the Anarchy Baryl has never been reduced to just 7.
@vexzel55502 жыл бұрын
I miss him. His design as evil sonic and Scourge was the definition of bad dude 😎
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Evil Sonic was a bit silly for me but I really loved him once he became Scourge
@kingjamesc11568 ай бұрын
Evil sonic was nothing before he became scourge
@vexzel55508 ай бұрын
@@kingjamesc1156... He literally wore shades, a black jacket, and boots….
@kingjamesc11568 ай бұрын
Yea but he said it himself that he was a nobody when he was just plain old evil sonic
@vexzel55508 ай бұрын
@@kingjamesc1156 yeah, but his “design” was cool as evil sonic. His development as a character became better when he became scourge. Both as evil sonic and scourge the design were cool, and he was a interesting take on what Sonic would be as evil.
@JeepusChrystler Жыл бұрын
If Evil Tails, Anti-Miles, used the Master Emerald in the same way as Scourge, would his new name be Kilometers?
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I never new I wanted Kilometes Prower lol
@miguelmartins46462 ай бұрын
Idk.
@soldierofkazus Жыл бұрын
My theory is that Finitevus knew the Super Genesis Wave was coming, and he had a plan to ensure that he, Scourge, and Fiona were recreated, which got a little thrown off due to a combination of factors and they ended up being imperfectly reborn in the IDW continuity as Starline, Surge, and Kit. Granted, the only similarity between Fiona and Kit is that they're foxes...
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
It falls apart with Kit but I do oveall really enjoy this idea!
@DragonKingMadaraUchiha5 ай бұрын
cool
@impidimp9331 Жыл бұрын
They should canonically make Scourge the main rival/villain to Sonic because Scourge had one of the best Character Development in the whole Sonic Franchise. His transition from being an evil sonic to being his self that he is not just a sonic who is bad but scourge with motives from experience (Like how he gained control of his dimension). Also For Shadow to still be the rival of Sonic is just not there anymore. Shadow is basically Sasuke now. Lastly, Scourge is also one of those who has Super mode like the Big 3 Hedgehogs.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more Scourge, it's too bad he's stuck with Penders though. Although, with Tangle and Whisper showing up more its not like comic characters are completely separate now
@FwendlyMushwoom2 жыл бұрын
I know Penders didn't create Scourge, but did he really copyright Evil Sonic? How the fuck can he do that? If I just put sunglasses and a leather jacket on Mario, I couldn't copyright "Evil Mario" as my own original character.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Here's how we get scourge back, put a second leather jacket on him with a second pair of glasses and call him Eviler Sonic.
@Sleepy_on_the_moon2 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic the perfect plan
@brbboi309 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic or maybe we find ken and assasinate him
@subjectnivleis7572 Жыл бұрын
@@Sleepy_on_the_moon hail to the king baby
@rynobehnke8289 Жыл бұрын
It gets double ridicules with Ken when you remember that he at the same time thinks Shade the Echidna is to similar to Julie-Sue and should belong to him because of it.
@Chriso226 ай бұрын
Scrouge instantly became my favourite sonic character ever after finding the archie comics as a kid
@FantasticSamtastic6 ай бұрын
You and I both!
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
Anti-sonic' s design gets a lot of flak But in comparison to other Evil MC versions he looks more different with the glasses and Jacket Most tend to be dark/purple palette swaps of the OG
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That's fair, it's not awful but Scourge is much better IMO
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic not dissing scourge design I'm just saying Evil versions tend to be palette swaps
@kate_sakura Жыл бұрын
Imo since Ian Flynn is now writing the games as well he should just go to court with Penders he can keep all of his characters except Scourge and have him as a villain since Eggman has been the only villain in the series now so having Scourge back would be a fresh start and could make a very interesting plot of sonic (or Scourge) collecting memory tokens so Sonic can remember the pre-SGW era
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Tbh I think it's best to move on and just leave Penders in the past. There were good characters who will be missed but idk if it's worth it
@madzman7214 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite examples of antiverse characters / I still want to see the adventures of scourge in the antiverse dealing with the counterparts of other characters
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Scourge really was an interesting character! It's too bad just as things got interesting all the Drama with Penders had to start.
@madzman7214 Жыл бұрын
@Fantastic Samtastic plus with how the story was going we could of seen anti enerjak and what else happened differently say wizards vs ancient walkers
@theultimateawesome5516 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough sonic archie issue 193 was the first sonic comic I ever read. I think I was like 8 I thought it was one of the coolest things I’ve seen.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Ah awesome! That's a sick one to start with;
@kaibird5428 күн бұрын
I love Scourge as a character!! He shows Sonic as the worst person he could possibly become, like using his abilities for his own selfish gain instead of helping people, his cockiness twisting into egomania, and his rebellious nature making him obsessed with anarchy and chaos. Scourge is aware that he’s just a “Saturday cartoon villain” character and not a serious threat, and everything he does is in pursuit of trying to prove he’s something more than that. His inferiority complex and need to prove himself ultimately leads to his own downfall and he only has himself to blame. It seems that Surge has kind of taken this role, and while I think she’s doing a great job as a Sonic foil, I’ll always have a soft spot for the classics.
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
Scourge's antisonic phase feels like a Rebel Evil kid Renaming himself scourge is him becoming an Evil teenager
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Love me some character evolution as they turn in to their own!
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic exactly In a sense he's obtaining independence from Ken Penders
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
@@isauldron4337 Agreed! It's a shame that Penders and the law don't see it that way
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic it's sad Penders hates anything everyone else did with his characters
@user-yf9ov2zn1w10 ай бұрын
I don’t think scourge kill his father maybe it’s was accident He pretendeds he strong when Sonic father was threatens him He was scared and cry someone Who kill his own father will never Holding back and run away
@blehsilly2 жыл бұрын
I actually never got the time to finish the whole comic series! And I always wondered about scourge. So this was very informative and helpful! Please make more videos, I’m interested about doctor Finitevus more! Keep up the great work!
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! It was a lot of fun to make and I've been debating doing a Dr Finitevus version of this but I wasn't sure if people would want to see these types of videos
@Nostalgia2009- Жыл бұрын
You can read all the archie comics online
@alicemursteinlesbefaen6662 жыл бұрын
scourge is my fav sonic character thank u for the video
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Anytime! Glad you liked it!
@whitneywilson8424 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Scourge fight Silver
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Who do you think would win?
@whitneywilson8424 Жыл бұрын
My guess is probably Silver
@fnaf2isthegoat752 жыл бұрын
I think the next Archie video should be on the chaotix
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Oh that's a fun one! I feel like they had a lot more going on than the chaotix we've seen in video games.
@indigomage28332 жыл бұрын
I can't WAIT to see what Surge ends up to be!! I like to think Surge and Scourge are similar but can go in REALLY different directions
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I really love Surge and I hope that both she and Kit really get the chance to continue growing as their own characters!
@infinityheart_tm9270 Жыл бұрын
Fellow Homestuck spotted.
@Player-fx8ul2 жыл бұрын
When is the chili dog tier list gonna come out?
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert they are all S tier
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
Great way to do a summary Concise and clear Insert mandatory *DAMN YOU KEN PENDERS* here
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it! It was a lot of fun to do and I think I'll do more
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic it would be dope if you did more!
@PeeWabbit-hy2ie12 күн бұрын
when i found out that scourge was erased i genuinely cried, i love his character so much and I'm so sad to see him erased, ik it's stupid to cry over and the genesis wave happened years ago but i still love scourge, he's so cool.. I'm so sad :(
@KirabetasАй бұрын
Fun fact: the world wasn't always called Moebius. After the events of Knuckles Enerjak transformation, Scourge and Fiona returned to their Mobius, conquered it, and Scourge changed his world's name to Moebius as one things to alter his world from the prime Mobius alongside with forcing the suppression squad to undergo changes to make them deadlier and suppressing the urge to rebel. These included Boomer altering himself with robotics and Scourge tearing out Patch's eye respectively.
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
Ken Penders is now selling scourge NFTs Danmned Ken Penders
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Best of all is last I saw him talk about it he Wanted to give Scourge a chest Tattoo instead of the scars because he thought those were tattoos. He doesn't even know anything about Scourge
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Yes it's pathetic honestly Like how Penders claims Shade and Julie-su are the same character Which isn't true at all
@thenewguyinred7 ай бұрын
Didn’t Ken Penders say he’d give the Scourge/Evil Sonic license to whoever gives him an impossible quota of money?
@FantasticSamtastic7 ай бұрын
I don't 100% the deal, but I think it was 10k a year or something like that. A bit bonkers when IDW is doing just fine without him
@P-P-Panda2 жыл бұрын
You’re so underrated wtf 😭💖
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 💖 (feel free to make me over rated by sharing my stuff with others 😜)
@slurpeestuff72382 жыл бұрын
This is a good video! Nice work!
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Love to hear it! Thank you so much!
@Ersymondequartiere3124 ай бұрын
Well done I love Sonic archie content!🎉
@FantasticSamtastic4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I really enjoy making these videos and exploring Archie again
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
Scourge wasn't technically retconned out of existence due to the Génesis wave?
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I think he's in a weird grey area but Ken claims ownership
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic i meant Genesis Wave is essentially death
@tjwizzyАй бұрын
Im atill wondering where Shadow came in during that Hedgehog Havok. I may need to reread it again, but I swear he just popped right in
@FantasticSamtasticАй бұрын
He literally just pops in. If I remember, it's been a hot minute, he teleported in with Metal Sonic right after he teleported out of the first Sonic Universe story
@Morgil272 ай бұрын
Just pointing out that all the backstory, including the name Moebius, wasn't created until many years later, _after_ the character turned green.
@memeguy24882 жыл бұрын
If there was a story reason of everyone remembering the events before the super genesis wave here is what it would be. Let me introduce you to an ideal sonic oc i created his name is genesis the hedgehog aka mr g (i picked the name genesis because of the name being a homage to the sega genesis) his appearance would be a grey hedgehog with green eyes but he would hide his identity for story reasons il mentioned later and his disguise is a black metallic mask similar to zeros mask from zero escape 999 and a black cloak similar to chris Redfields coat from resident evil 8. Abilities crossing through different sonic universe's, healing abilities stoping time like dio from jojo part 3 and going back in time. His backstory is that he originated in the game universe and he was sonics oldest brother and he was Gerald robotniks assistant and he was very close to maria and he gave his dna to the black arms to make shadow. He experimented with both dnas which made a cure for marias disease but he needed to test it out and so he injects the disease on himself and drinked the cure proving it worked but then g.u.n came and killed maria making genesis go on a demonic rage but maria told genesis not to kill anyone and then g.u.n soldiers shot genesis but it turns out that the cure turns people immortal so he took many samples of the cure with him and left the ark going back to mobius. He was also freinds with cream the rabbits father and my reason he is not in the games was that genesis was being hunted down by the dark brotherhood from sonic chronicles because they sense a power in genesis and he didn't want creams father to get involved so he sent him far away from mobius so that they dont harm him. Anyway genesis gets cornered by the dark brotherhood so he jumped of a cliff faking his death but he gets trapped in a cave but then he discovered that he has the power to cross through the different sonic universe's and so he left and ended up in the archie universe while fiona the fox was captured by robotnik and he also got captured by robotnik and was transported to the same prision as her and they became very close freinds untill genesis was sent to public execution and people including fiona assumed he died but thanks to being immortal he faked his death leaving the universe. He then meets extra life sonic from the fleetway universe and mecha sonic from the game universe and redeemed them both which they both join him. Now you might be wondering how is related to bringing back the events of the pre super genesis wave well by some accident he came back to the archie universe and he went back in time to stop the super genesis wave from even happening and then scourge and fiona came in and when genesis (wearing the mask and coat) he was angry at scourge for making her like this and so he goes on a quest with extra life sonic and mecha sonic to help redeem fiona and scourge from taking over the multiverse.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I dig it! Honestly it'll probably never happen but it would be really cool to have a sort of dimensional crossover with Archie Sonic and IDW one day
@memeguy24882 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic also genesis theme would be the special stage theme from sonic 1 because that song is good in my opinion and its not really used anymore as well as the special stage itself. You know what i actually wanted to use the special stage from sonic 1 as a part of the sonic-genesis story as a way of characters that are not genesis traveling to the different sonic universe's and its also kinda like a home for genesis.
@user-p4212 жыл бұрын
It would be nice,if Scourge back, but at the moment I advice to read “Scourge: eternal blackout”.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
So kinda interestingly I stumbled on that while making my Ken Penders video because I had mistaken one the drawings of scourge done by the artist of Scourge:Eternal Black out as being official work. In the weirdest of coincidences he ended up stumbling on that video and mentioning it lol.
@CypherModernSilver Жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice the werehog sonic
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
He made a sneaky little cameo lol
@justdrums82732 жыл бұрын
Okey i can hear you now
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Good to know I fixed it :D
@soldierofkazus Жыл бұрын
I've always pronounced Moebius as "Mee-bius"
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Better than saying its a world of Moe lol
@TERRELL_GASKINS2 ай бұрын
Scourge is a character alot of us can relate to a degree because we've all put are souls into winning into wanting people to see us as the sh*t that we know we can been deep down but everyone else veiws us a weak jokes until we dissappear for a while N come back on demon time with everyone now submitting to us💚🖤💯
@sirduke0128 Жыл бұрын
BOOYAH
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
Nobody remembers sonugh the boghog?
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Oh I remember him, the man had never seen a hedge lol. For sure one of the more questionable Sonic characters and maybe not on the same level as Scourge 😂
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic he's fun
@SarahLikesSkittles2 жыл бұрын
sonc
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
the hedhog
@imacashout Жыл бұрын
Scourge didn't kill his dad
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I know, he just mentioned his dad once and then his dad was never seen or heard from again
@jonbomb1480 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on anti-tails? He seems like a cool character based off of the design but I haven't been able to find anything about this character.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I could probably do a short one if I have time. Sadly there's just not a lot to him which is a bummer but also kinda the case with the anti freedom fighters
@jonbomb1480 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Ohh ok thanks
@galvatronustv58113 ай бұрын
Moebius is pronounced like moe(sorry)
@omegamorph821119 күн бұрын
MOE~bius :3
@SpriterofBrazil Жыл бұрын
it's pronounced mo-E-bius
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
you learn something new every day! Although moe-bius is pretty funny
@duketheLEGEND6513 ай бұрын
Turbo tails
@khalilnery Жыл бұрын
evil khalil
@SuperStar-ss1pn2 жыл бұрын
Turning anti sonic green was stupid
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I disagree but to each their own I suppose 🤷♀️
@MetroGexual Жыл бұрын
Him turning green was literally the best thing that’s ever happened to him