What Sonic comic is this and which issue is it?

Minor but important detail: Robotnik isn't just willing to roboticize the Dark Egg Legion along with all the rest of the Mobians - he's willing to DETONATE THEIR IMPLANTS and kill literally every single character that's loyal to him, on purpose, for the express reason that he simply doesn't care as long as he has an army of robotic slaves.

If the comic wasn't rebooted, Ian said she would have been deroboticized in issue 250, so it wouldn't have continued that much longer.

Damn Shame this Arc isn’t gonna be finished. “Thanks Ken Penders! very cool”

I like how the idea of mechanizeing Sonic's love interest is used again in Sonic Prime with cyborg Amy Rose.

All I have to say is thank God for Archie Sonic online

So in other words, because of the lawsuit, Eggman won.

What took me by surprise was seeing Bunnie with normal limbs and Antoine being heroic.

I love how Eggman his ultimate doomsday weapon gets wrecked and he is just like ah well guess I'll use my backup ultimate doomsday weapon.

Regardless of what anybody think about the comics, we can easily considers this moment as one of the saddest moments in the Sonic franchise alongside of E-102 Gamma's last stand, Tails breakdown in Sonic X or the darkest hour of the Metal Virus crisis. Especially that there are characters we learn to know and love for more than 200 issues over several years, not to mention the quality of the drawings, which show just how much it has affected those who read it.

I honestly don't mind them failing to get Sally back. It sort of builds the tension more and more that "this is how it's gonna be now" and they might have to slowly face the fact that Sally truly is gone. Maybe even Eggman's modifications replaced and changed her so much that reversing wouldn't be complete, impossible even. That's what I thought when she was first captured, that over time reversal would be impossible like with Uncle Chuck. Especially after he modified her, almost solidifying that she's gone. All that's left is her head showing her former self. Also funny the Metal Team is all robotic versions with their color theme. All except the only actual former person who has her entire body changed.

IDW is very good but for me Archie will unbeatable. I love too much their comics 😍

I wonder if Rusty Rose's story/character in Sonic Prime took inspiration from this concept in the Archie comics

In a way the good thing that came out of this is that Ian got to create the IDW comics and created very interesting stories despite the restrictions he has to follow. I didn’t expect this to go as dark as it did with two members being taken out and the group being forced to push through

I wonder how things would’ve gone if Penders didn’t keep giving us reasons to be incredibly annoyed with him

Mecha Sally arc be like Oh no skip the climax add more Filler!

This hurt me the most. I think I just getting into the Sonally when the first issue you mentioned was released. And then stories later, she gets transformed. Even worse, the world resets, Sally returns, they had a whole new mission….and Sonic and Sally were gone. They regained their memories, but nothing. No talk, no tender moments, not even thinking of breaking up. The world of Sonic fans, or at least the many who are Sonamy fans more won favor and the writers went down that road to have Sonic and Amy’s bond grow more.

Oh come on the open vest was her signature look

Antoine was still in the coma 💀. Like i get everything went back to normal, but imagine getting boomed, and then reversing it but still having the memory of the pain and suffering you went through and your whole life flashing before your eyes. Antoine def had it the worst more than sally imo

6:54 It would be funny if the Sonic Off Panel for this issue, had Sonic either land safely on the ground because there’s no fall damage in Sonic games. Or he just loses his rings upon impact. And is perfectly fine.

3:10 We all know Eggman is the one....or should I say, Robotnik

I'm still convinced that issue 247 where the genesis wave went off is the end of the story and what happened after just the echoes of the archie canon ripped apart I still wonder what could of been / sonic online isn't easy to access or navigate plus it doesn't have the same narrative structure but still at least it's trying to keep the spirit of the comic alive

as i said in another video talkin the same: "They literally lost by the plot" The Freedom Fighters lost that one truly because the entire thing end up in a soft reboot due the Penders Drama. A lot of things were left out as well.

Nice review

I remember hanging around Ian Flynn's personal online forum when this arc was going down, and he definitely had some long term plan's for this arc, including bringing Antoine out of his coma. But then unfortunately the Penders-pocolypse happened and everything he had been building to had to get flushed down the toilet, never to be seen again.

Hey could you discuss the inconsistent story of the Chaos Emeralds? How it was very consistent until Penders made up an origin that makes no sense, being radiated gems???

Your videos are some of the best ones I've watched explaining the Sonic comics; I used to read them a lot as a kid, but I forgot SO much of this stuff ever happened, so these videos feel like such a wild ride haha. Great job!

Go ken penders , this is why we can't have nice things

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with how the comics wrapped up. It just feels like everything is finally coming full circle with the Sonic universe. Plus, each new game or series gives us a chance to explore the characters in a fresh way. And you never know when someone's memories might get wiped and new characters and plotlines get introduced. I'm anticipating seeing Sally return to her OG form, too, in the near future of the franchise, whenever that will be. That should be pretty sweet! When I saw Sonic acting like that in this arc, I was totally taken aback. I mean, who would have thought that he'd be cool with death threats and the harshness against his own friends/counterparts? It seemed like all the stress and frustration he'd been dealing with had finally gotten to him, and he just didn't care anymore. But then something changed. Sonic started thinking about things differently and became a more mature hedgehog. He still goes with the flow, but now he actually thinks about what he's doing and how it might affect others. (P.S. The Sonic Prime series is doing some kind of reset thing, so this doesn't really apply to that.) So, I was totally engrossed in this Sonic comic (And in the overall franchise), and I couldn't help but notice something cool. Sonic's character always seems to evolve as he learns to trust and work with his friends. And not only that, but his friends also grow and become more independent. It's like they're all equals in this hero business. Pretty neat. Anyways that's my two cents on this. :P

People just don't know how good this comic was.

I didn't even know these Sonic comics even existed until after Sally was roboticized. Man, I had a lot to catch up on.

Always enjoy hearing about these comics on your channel. ^^👍✨

3am youtube recommended me you and Im glad 🎉

That Mecha Sally panel looks great! GG to that artist

Just subbed! Also shame that this brilliant arc was cut off prematurely, thank you Ken for being so petty.

Screw SEGA for betraying their fans! There is no other words for it and they LITERALLY blueballed the fans of the by preventing the ending of the saga and heart wrenching reunion of Sonic and Sally. It was literally meant to happen the following issue, but they stabbed their fans in the back with that infamous reboot, and butchered the few characters we had left!

I would love to see a video on Naugus. And for that matter, also a video on Mogul.

Dam, it was heading towards a epic conclusion before external factors happened. I really wished that Comic Book Artists understood that when they work on a epic franchise that is owned by a different company, they should keep their mouths shut and realize that it's the original Company that keep their IP and the characters created around them. Artists need to understand that a Team is greater than the Individual even though it is sometimes hard for those with big egos to understand this.

Mecha Sally vs Rusty Rose??? MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Listen to the Mega Man music is ironic knowing how the Mecha Sally arc "ended".

Fucking thanks Penders, way to kill the arch. In all seriousness I would have loved to see Sally get her free will back and have to cope with being a living weapon and come to terms with what she had done under Eggman's control.

I really liked this video, and the way how you do your other videos, they are really cool, but if you want to see mecha Sally story concluded read archie sonic online! I think someone on the comment srction said that too, do you think you can make a video about it sometime?

Can can you do a video explaining shadows story throughout the Archie run

9:05 Ooooh ixis naugus, that's another good one. Also, he's technically a chimeric as he's a cross between a bat, a rhino, and a crab/lobster.

13:12 that was more about escorting Elias and his family out of the city as it would be too dangerous for them to stay while Nagus is on the throne.

omg, Naugus is a bat!? I just thought he was a magic goblin. omg this clears so much up lmaoo

Awesome job with this narration! You make me wish we had these easily accessible in Italy back when Archie was still the publisher. It's a bit of a bummer that I was getting invested until you mentioned the Cursed Ekidna Man and I knew stuff was gonna end in the reboot. I'd like to ask one thing as bluntly as possible: did Sonic had multiple girlfriends at the same time? At the beginning we can see him and Sally share a kiss, but a couple of volumes later he's holding hand with Amy with little hearts floating around. Also, leaving the worst for last... Robot Furry Girl with Black Sclera Eyes? This is scarily targeting me at a personal level. 😅

Here's an idea for a video or a discussion. What if sally stay dead and issue 50. How much do you think the story would change.

This was Eggman's biggest victory!

I never grew up with the Archie comics, but I recently have been looking into them through video essays such as this one. From what I understand, the Archie comics were forced to reboot so much due to Ken Penders and his lawsuits against Archie and SEGA. This would also lead to the comics eventual demise as the licensing deal between Archie and SEGA would end with SEGA wanting to move on from this fiasco and start over with the IDW Comic series.

I really dislike how the reboot just sweeps “Preboot” under the rug. Instead of doing something with it. If they go out of their way to have the characters still remember Preboot, that should have more of an effect on the story. Like maybe Sally struggles being a Freedom Fighter or suffers from PTSD. It would’ve been better if they just stopped Preboot and just completely rebooted Archie without anything from Preboot. Think of how we went to IDW with a continuity that has no relation to Archie. Instead of using a crossover with Megaman to create a new continuity, and slap in the fact that the Freedom Fighters, Naugus, Eggman, Orbot & Cubot still remembers Preboot, just to sweep it under the rug until they want to mention it. But yet, they still keep it under said rug until the second crossover.

Something that always bothered me was in Issue 235 when Tails breaks down over losing someone "close to him". That someone is Antoine. I'm not saying that Tails has no right to be sad about Antoine, but if you read the comics, Tails crying over Antoine's potential loss doesn't make sense. In the comics, Tails and Antoine barely interact with each other. Tails was the usher at Antoine and Bunnie's wedding and he took them to their honeymoon. That's it. You'd think that Tails would be more upset that Sally was roboticised and being used against them.

Like how mad eggman gets some of satAM robotnik's features, ( or aosth if you prefer, but I don't think that was the intent)

Sucks that Dulcy lost a lot of screen time over the years and even with the Genesis Wave they decided to redesign her instead of keeping her natural look.

Technically there is a comic where Sonic and the others derobobticize sally in the nick of time ( cuz metal made mecha sally self destruct) then theres the fact the ixis takes over st. John's body and tires " tries" to take over the city but its never continued after that because it automatically changes to the new universe where sally is better and has blade rings.

These comics used to cost 3$ per issue ❤

I was way too young to appreciate this or retain the comics in good condition.

Also I hate how Sonic despite Shadow being in this comic noticeably uses chaos control more extensively(especially as Super Sonic) than fucking Shadow. Way to kick the dog and put a guy thats established the expert on that technique under the bus just so Sonic can look better.

8:30 T-pose to assert dominance.

sonic and sally will always be the best couple and honestly this arc makes their relationship that much stronger, it gives the audience a good perspective of how in love they are. man i miss the archie comics

Question. I remember this particular Dr. Eggman being Robo Robotnik. Wouldn't the robotizer screw up his body in some way or explode. Also Sonic is also normal afterwards too. I know this was a skim read so there might have been some details left out, but I'm all ears for any answers to this.

What’s the background music at 13:10 I have heard it everywhere but can’t find the name of it

It's not necessarily the last ark because we also got extinction of a species in between

titan metal looks like metal sonic kai

This really should be in the conversation of best sonic story

There is an fanmade continuation of the archie sonic that revoles this plotline, Shame if could never be done officially

Isn't it funny how metal Sally and Metal Tails look more like the OGs than metal Sonic and metal knuckle, (Sonic has green eyes and Metal Sonic has red, and Knuckles has purple eyes and metal knuckles had green), Oh and Metal Amy looks like Amy in a way as well so I’m confused on why Eggman doesn’t even know Sonics eye color but he knows tails, *Sees Metal Blaze* Oh god damn it whats next metal Silver with blue eyes, Metal shadow looks ok

The best thing about this arc was seeing Mecha Sonic V.1 again. And yes it isn’t silver sonic, silver sonic is the small little robot that appeared in those other sonic games back then, and then after mania.

I think what hurts the most is that this arc *was* supposed to be capped off with the original plans for issue 250. We were *3* issues away from the conclusion! Fucking Penders.

Looks like Sonics nightmare came true :(

Doesn’t silver end up killing mecha sally when he travels back and realizes she’s the traitor? Before the 2nd genesis wave?

Sonic fingers

I wonder what the arc could have been if Ken didn't screw over the comics.

She was second best to Neo Metal Sonic.

I need the music list for the video

Why did Sally acorn have to sacrifice herself? 😭 😭😭

wait so how did sonic and eggman not turn into robots

Dr. Eggman in other terms is like Rick Sanchez, before Rick Sanchez was conceived as an idea by Justin Roiland. That's my conclusion with Eggman in any different variations of him.

Moral-of-the-story don't be a SIMP

what comic issue is at 8:38?

not me using this to try and figure out which characters secret histories tails would not know exist (he knows up to issue 104 or some time around 2001/ after sonic adventure 2 came out) tl;dr: he knows like a sixteenth of all the sonic character current list of unknowns from archie to him: silver, blaze, the deadly six, anything connected to black doom (except shadow), the chaotix, any new characters from sonic universe, ect

It never got resolved the right way because Ken Penders being a dick.

DARK IS A DUCKING UNDERESTIMATENT

In this arc, Eggman almost defeated Sonic.

15:12 What card is he referring to?

Bro she’s darker then sonic exe

Ah, love this arc. Like Eggman, I creamed my pants that Sonic got put in his place and his Jackass may care arrogance fucking cost him everything making him lose everything that created his famous egotisim and tude. Course he gets it back post reebot but at least hes not a callous douche like he was and relies on his friends and thinks ahead more.

I wish the Mecha Sonic arc was as long as this. Since they did that in 1996, they were not ready for something so dark for too long. Mecha Madness was only 3 isuess. I loved Sonic's Mecha form.

Why did the Mario 64 slide theme start playing as sally is robotisized? Really couldn’t find anything kore fitting?

it's not the same version as the Sonic Sat?

Has anyone else heard the rumors ian made up the mandates?

I remember reading this when I actually bought the comic. and they explain why I never finished it. lol totaly forgotabout it.

I don't know what it is but there's something about Archie's Sonic that IDW didn't managed to replicate

Best Girl Cream BABY

And completely wasted

Ah ouai? T'es d'origine françaises?

Ken Penders ruined EVERYTHING! 🤬 HIM!

I don't really like Archie but this story is so cool

TBH. Archie Sonic Comics were what made this franchise truly awesome until the Penders hit the fan.

Well amy rose got angry at sonic