also known as a _OK-Class Whew Lad Scenario_

scp foundation: it looks safe scp: _does something fucky_ scp foundation: *eyes widen*

@@the_honkler778 scp be like ima pull a wacky move

That thing? Yeah dont worry about that thing. *Something happens* Oh that's what it does

@@the_honkler778Foundation: lets launch a few D-class into it... Yeah? turned into spaghetti you say? hmmmmmm...

you have no power over me, demiurge

"Quantum physics" would be more approriate compared to "nuclear physics" here :D

I had to check google three times to see if some of these words existed 😬

You should check out some nuclear physics lessons tho, theres some good ones by MIT and Stanford profs on youtube here

@@chrstfer2452 I've had enough of it in my own university to understand what was being said, thanks anyway.

Yeah it's more Sci-fi than actual sci-fi fantasy.

"More scientific" What do you think science is? A substance that can be bought and sold, parceled and measured? There's nothing more or less scientific about this SCP than any other SCP because they're all fantasy- there have been no actual experiments performed on them. Call it "realistic" or "feasible," but don't call it "scientific."

@@rockspoon6528 Does it matter? His point still came across.

Well the theme for the 2000 contest was sci-fi, so it only makes sense most SCP's from Series III would be science focused.

@@rockspoon6528 well aren't you a gramatically pedantic delight

I mean TBF, many scenarios are mentioned in only one article, and we don't know if they apply elsewhere. I bet Foundation theoretical eschatologists (?) have even thought of possible scenarios that no concrete SCP is threatening as of now. P.S.: Don't look up "false vacuum decay." Sweet dreams! :^)

@@nibblrrr7124 No reason to worry about Something that you have no Chance of actually witnessing. In comparison to at least a Third of all scps false vacuum decay May even be preferable

I'm beginning to think that the people who write articles just pick terms that sound about right for the scp universe and what even is good enough gets added as official content.

@@nibblrrr7124 whats so bad about vacoom decay?

@@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 watch Kurzgesagt's video on that

Right?! I don't mind that one bit honestly. I'm all for the weird hyper-specific science things getting used for an article.

I absolutely agree, as someone who is a bit of a self taught astrophysicist due to watching many videos from genuinely intelligent people who talk about the subject in great depth. A lot of this video sounds like whoever wrote this. DEFINITELY did their fair share of research like almost even better than interstellar. Though something that absolutely ripped me out of it being better than interstellar was the comment: “Being 100,000 times more dense than our sun!” When a cursory google search shows that if our sun was only 10 - 25 more dense than it was at its current size. It would collapse into a black hole. So while yes an anomaly can be whatever the writer creates. 5$/5 can violate the laws of physics. Though if you’re trying to make a halfway believable “non fiction” or based mostly on “non fiction” story to give your story credit or narrative hook supremely effective. You make it believable, not absolutely immersion breaking quantities Or you could take the wildcard route of just throwing an absolutely ridiculously number out there to pad the stats like saitama but if you’re going to do that. You have to full send it to have a good narrative hook. Source: a self taught astrophysicists who sucks at math lol and an English major with a+ in most of my English schooling career lol

This is something I love most about SCP. The entry format gives room for people who would otherwise be non-writers to express their deep understanding of various niches, ideas and concepts, without being restricted to a traditional narrative structure.

it really is just the perfect sucker punch to turn this article from a bunch of techno-babble into existential dread

It is a creepy answer to the Fermi Paradox

"And when you consider that fully 85% of the mass in the universe is dark matter, we should not ask why we are so unlucky to have a chunk of it orbiting around earth, we should ask why we are so lucky that we haven't hit any of this stuff yet." I see what you mean

I fucking know, right ?

Indeed

The universe is so hostile to human life, its incredible that we even exist to this day.

I'm probably reading to much into what you said but dark matter doesn't work like this in reality, or if it did everything is already phase shifted

@@randybaumery5090 maybe life on earth is itself an anomaly and we truly are alone in this terrifying universe

We live in the narrow interface between radioactive molten rock and hard vacuum. Safety is not in the cards.

@@DonkeyWork420 or we aren't, either or its pretty damn terrifying.

What?

@@christopheraaron1255 if an object that heavy had a regular gravitationap field, itd already have eaten earth

​@@christopheraaron1255 It has a mass comparable to that of a white dwarf, which is usually close to mass of our Sun. So it's range of influence should be around the same as the Sun. Considering the orbit distance of ~400km, Earth would be ground to atoms by the gravitational forces involved at this range. edit: that's what I get for watching it in the background, durr

I understood it as it having the *density* of a star, not total mass of one. As in, all that matter in one place being equivalent to the same area of the inside of said star, not all of the star.

@@vlfpl The mass is comparable to a asteroid 22 miles across.

I take physics and I still don't understand half of what he says

Your comment makes my clode happy and fills my appolity certificate to the point that it is 100% glarded. Mr Rev. Dr. Barosa / Warosa, esq. confirms it.

@@taxidriverxdscp4242 Thats the nature of Qunatum Pyshics

Feels to me like the author went overboard with the jargon.

@@Fanny-Fanny um...is he okay?

Yeah it's either something has drastically changed, or the perception of the anomaly has drastically changed. Which is when SCP's are at their best, not just as a scary story but as things beyond our understanding that we are attempting to understand nonetheless.

or it was more understood and it has proven far more dangerous and far more difficult to contain than when it was thought when first discovered

Me to, it always make them even more scary that the foundation was wrong about a scp and it turns out to be more dangerous than previously theorized

Harbinger. Must. Message. Harbinger. Must.

I mean yeah. Just look at the Lovecraft Mythos

As soon as I read your comment I thought about the Star, the hateful

I agree.

Fr fr💯

If only human stupidity was anomalous and rare.

@@shaydorahl6740 ?

@@shaydorahl6740 what?

@@shaydorahl6740 schizo?

@@rileygladue3979 How is a dislike towards stupidity Schizophrenic?

Well, neutron stars are still held up by Pauli exclusion, aren't they? It's just not "standard", *electron* exclusion. And even there it's not that the electrons stop obeying Pauli exclusion, they're just merged with protons, and then the resulting neutrons supply the degeneracy pressure that holds the star, right?

That's pretty interesting

​@@Quadrohedron I'm not a physicist, but I think that's correct. Neutron stars are held up by neutron degeneracy pressure, which is just a consequence of Pauli exclusion (neutrons are fermions, like electrons). Black holes only emerge when the stellar corpse is so massive that general relativity comes in to mess up spacetime and form an event horizon - no violation of the Pauli exclusion principle needed. (That might happen inside, though we can't tell without a theory of quantum gravity, and it isn't necessary for the formation of the black hole.) IIRC the Science Asylum video on white dwarf stars, the heavier they are, the smaller they get because they collapse more and more under their own gravity. To avoid violating the Pauli exclusion principle by occupying the same quantum state, the electrons expand in energy/momentum space to compensate being pushed closer in location (i.e. normal) space. That works until they have enough kinetic energy to merge with the protons into neutrons through reverse beta decay - which happens for stellar corpses heavier than the Chandrasekhar limit.

@@Quadrohedron I'm not an astrophysicist, but I do watch a lot of Antron Petrov and Dr. Matt O'Dowd. I'm pretty sure that's how they explain it.

@@nibblrrr7124 love seeing a science asylum reference here. Im not a physicist but i do have some physics training and from what i recall youre spot on.

I believe Volgun is Scottish

@@EvanMe volgun is Irish

average Americans lumping in scots with irish and larping as them

@@han-d youre not wrong.. there's just not a lot of exposure over here. Hard enough trying to follow a conversation between a southerner, a new Yorker and a californian, and they all speak the (mostly) same flavor of english

@@ceasarspartacus as a southerner, I can say this statement is very wrong.

Fermionic = normal matter Bosonic = non-normal, energy enriched matter Colocating = sharing the exact physical spacial location as something else

Boson: aka the force carriers of the universe Bosonic: basically the description of that Bosons can occupy the same space of each other

non-euclidean = our (normal) rules of geometric do not apply. Strictly speaking, that's nothing supernatural. The surface of an orb is non-euclidean.

@@styrax7280 yeah, non-euclidean as a supernatural term stems from HP Lovecraft not having the constitution for math

@@maxwellorryn3380 I see someone watches OSP. It's a good joke, but is different from todays authors slapping quantum infron of everything?

That's why its terrifying, it's cold unphasing neutrality. It's existence isn't inherently malicious, it's just that's it's existence happens to be in opposition to ours by sheer cruel coincidence. It didn't have to be this way but it is and no being had a choice in it.

He’s on a freaking roll

Agreed! Looking forward to

... on a roll doing what? Reading other people's work and getting paid for it? Unimpressive. Just like that loser that reads people's bigfoot emails and gets like 10k a month for it. Failed hunting guide turned bullshit profiteer in the most lazy way possible.

The author have certainly read a bit of physics books and articles. However, there are number of inconsistencies in the narrative that specialist would not make. The whole Schwarzschild radius only apply to the black holes and SCP-2460 is not a black hole as it have high but finite density so it’s can’t have singularity and thus Schwarzschild radius. Another oddity is placing such mass so close to earth, it would destroy the earth by its gravitational effects and tidal heating without any need to actual collision. Placing the object into solar orbit would make more sense. Few other minor things such as visible light spectroscopy would only suggest that the comet is similar in spectrum to Oort Cloud objects but can’t make it a certainty. It is also unclear how the quantum effects of the matter in SCP-2460 were studied. The only reasonable way would be to shoot small test payloads through SCP-2460 at different velocities and study the changes that occurred in the objects. By the way If the matter trapped in the SCP-2460 can reflect and absorb light beaming high powered laser would allow adding acceleration to objects to push them out of the earth orbit, this approach at least shuld have been considered, maybe not used in concerns of anomalous hydrogen and helium expansion within SCP but discussed never the less. Outside of this quirks it’s a certainty great SCP and even implied solution to Fermi paradox of universe being slowly consumed by dark matter.

@@AntonLennikov yeah, you’re right, but I think those discrepancies were probably necessary to make an interesting SCP

@@86_percent28 Nah, they actually show that whoever wrote this has an incomplete understanding of physics gravity, and orbital mechanics. The author just blends several theoretical concepts together and a few speculations on the dark matter without fully understanding the totality of the effects and consequences. But it is a good concept never the less. I enjoyed it a lot.

@@AntonLennikov Actually, _all_ objects have a Schwarzschild radius. It’s the radius at which an object becomes dense enough to _form_ a singularity. (Mount Everest’s Schwarzschild radius is less than a nanometre, for example. Source: Wikipedia article about Schwarzschild radii.) What you’re thinking of is the _event horizon,_ which, yes, has the same radius as a black hole’s Schwarzschild radius. But it’s not the same concept _or_ property as the Schwarzschild radius of the black hole (or any object). Quoth Wikipedia: “Any object whose radius is smaller than its Schwarzschild radius is called a black hole.” Therefore, theoretically, _any_ object can become a black hole if you make it small enough, in terms of volume, whilst maintaining the same mass. Or, by making an object more massive whilst preserving its volume. The second situation is the one which is of primary concern to us in the context of this SCiP, and here’s why: If SCP-2460 keeps accumulating mass as it has been so far, but does not increase in volume at the same rate (and, uh… it _isn’t,_ because all of the mass it’s capturing is co-locating instead of piling up on itself), then there is every chance it could _turn into_ a black hole. _That’s_ why the Foundation is keeping track of 2460’s Schwarzschild radius, why the special containment procedures include an exclusion zone around 2460, why the procedures require the Foundation to notify all space agencies of 2460’s location ahead of any launches those space agencies plan to conduct, and why it _is_ a relevant property in this document. _They’re trying to keep 2460 from becoming a Dark Matter Black Hole._ Enjoy that moment of Fridge Horror I only just had whilst I was typing this out. 😋

The james webb telescope is orbiting the sun and earth technically speaking. That's how lagrange points work. But it does have to use fuel to keep in a stable orbit, has enough for 20+ years.

@@iCore7Gaming it's still neat that there is nothing at the point itself the only way to know that is the point is with equations I dont think I'd ever have a chance of actually understanding.

@@ProvostZarakov Thank you for making know that Lagrange points are a thing in real life. To this day I only knew them as the place were the five Space Colonies were placed in UC Gundam.

@@ProvostZarakov Its the border between our Minecraft chunks. Lol but seriously, my physics teacher in HS was motivated by his religious upbringing to quantify god's creation or similar ideals. It was really fascinating watching him go on and on about how beautiful and strangely clock like the universe is, and having intermittent contact with him, he nearly drools over this stuff every now and then. Super great seeing him get excited over this, it's infectious lol. It's no surprise physicists and astrophysicists are so engaged in their fields. Absolute wonderment.

There's several flaws in the article, physics wise. It's a interesting article non the less, with a few tweaks it would become amazing

It's not hard science fiction, it's just very intelligent-sounding pseudoscience. So regular science fiction.

@@joaomaciel1661 yeah, indeed

@@joaomaciel1661 And what are the mistakes ? Are you talking about how, if you take away electron spin, there’s nothing to stop the strong nuclear force from contracting everything into a black hole ? Or the logical implications of a single tweak in a few values of quantum physical equations such as the cancellation of the spins ? Oh ! Did the author(s) forget about the relativistic deformation of the observations of the objects, due to how incredibly dense the object is, and close to its incredible centre of mass we are ? Is it also in the cataclysmic predictions of its fall into & through the Earth ?

@@nicholasleclerc1583 if you can't hit any of the other stuff, there's no reason for the stuff to lump together.

it is anomalous the part about dark matter forming a large ball that phases though normal stuff is real, but the part about normal matter phasing though its self or the complete suppression of the electro magnetic force is anomalous Edit: rereading this it sounds a bit confusing so I’ll clarify ONLY dark matter (in this situation*) can phase through stuff in real life, it happens to you all the time. *other thing can phase through normal matter but aren’t important here

They know what it is, but that doesn't make it explained. I think explained, means explained by science, not understanding it. They could know everything about an anomaly, but if it doesn't follow the laws of physics, it's still an anomaly and therefore unexplained with respect to the rest of science.

They know it’s Dark Matter, yes (and they’ve even solved the MaCHOs [Massively Compact Halo Objects] vs WIMPs [Weakly Interacting Massive Particles] debate-the WIMPs won), but it’s still anomalous because 2460 has broken quantum physics a bit. Dark matter shouldn’t be able to co-locate like 2460 can. So it’s not completely explained by consensus science, therefore, cannot be reclassified as Explained.

Doesn't seem to matter, as the big words Intimidate most people in the comment section.

If only he pronounced Schwarzschild correctly.

Thank you the name is DR. MILLAR btw.

He always has been

That desktop name said DR. J MILLAR

Debunked? That's what the Foundation wants you to think.

I remember this i was about to look it up again How was it debunked

@@Jesus_Offical It was just a space blanket (or something like that) lost during a mission. I think "Trey the Explainer" made a pretty solid video about it a few years back.

@@cybermang878 thank you

My name is DR. J MILLAR.

I think the SCP isn't Dark Matter itself, but what it's doing. It's turning Fermionic matter into something else. SCPs don't have to be _paranormal_ to be SCPs. Just unexplained or unknown.

The Foundation doesn't concern itself with _paranormal_ activity. It contains the _anomalous._ Paranormal suggests something parallel to the normal, something 'different'. Anomalous is something Normal-but-wrong. For example plenty of SCP's exist that indicate a multiverse is very, very real and there are at _least_ dozens of other universes and realities, all paranormal because they're all running differently, 'adjacent' to our normal. The Foundation doesn't contain or even bother keeping records on most of them. It _does_ however, contain and classify the otherwise normal reality overrun with a sapient human-parasitic hive-mind, the reality that's one stray bird away from bringing Death with an immediate and capital D to the entire universe, and the universe somehow connected to ours by a pinhole wormhole firing a constant ever increasing laserbeam through at us. Because they're all anomalous. They're all normal(alternate universes)-but-wrong. Dark matter in this case is normal-but-wrong. Our state of normal is fermionic matter, and dark matter just _ends_ that for unknown and uncontrollable reasons. It's an anomaly we don't understand.

holy shit it just hit me the foundation are the ones that don't give up in Lovecraft's world

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim But by that reasoning, shouldn't the Foundation have suppressed every new scientific mystery since their founding? Everything is unexplained until someone, you know, explains it. Did you know we calculated how many neutrinos are generated by the sun, but when we measured them we could only find a third of that amount? Nobody could explain why, it didn't seem to make any sense. It took thirty years to figure out a theory for how this was possible and almost another twenty to prove it in practice. Sometimes science just runs into stuff that doesn't seem to make any sense, but that's a good thing because it means we may have something new to discover. We don't even know for sure if dark matter even exists, just that it seems like it should, and we sure as heck don't know _what_ it actually is. So, who knows what it might be capable of?

@@RelativelyBest Sometimes SCPs get explained, that's a known thing. When they're explained, they're removed from the list. There's a massive difference between discovering how to launch a rocket and finding out Dark Matter can break the fundamental laws of physics.

Text breeding? That sounds like a whole as SCP in itself!

Finally! someone finds out.

I'm guessing that was a convenience thing. I would have preferred a woman to play Cordelia but of course Volgun is clearly producing these videos on a very limited budget, so I can understand why certain changes have to be made.

Oh, it gets worse. The Foundation isn’t monitoring its Schwarzschild radius for nothing; this thing could turn into a _black fucking hole_ with the same anomalous properties as the original mass of dark matter if it keeps accumulating mass the way it is. Sleep well!

For real ? not that it would surprise me but..

@@polyarthus4282 Look up the Black Knight satellite conspiracy

​@@thomashayhurst6547 Not sure how many parallels the article has with the conspiracy theory, but the picture seems to the same 1998 NASA photo of space debris that is commonly associated with it. Anyway, didn't know about the Black Knight thing... silly humans and their imaginations - I mean, fellow humans. :^)

@@thomashayhurst6547 ohh I know this one ! I thought there was a conspiracy about dark matter or something.

If this has a schwarzchild radius, it probably means that nothing can escape its gravitational well. Conservation of momentum still holds true- but no one knows where that object hits when it gets "sucked" in

​@@ethhics IDK what that bit was going for. The Schwarzschild radius of a 10^13kg object should be around 10^-14m = 10fm = 0.00001nm. That's a bit bigger than a proton. If the matter isn't compressed into a sphere smaller than that, no event horizon exists. (In fact, inside a classical massive object, the gravitational pull cancels out near the center.) And it can't really be black-hole-like - we do see objects poking out of the boundary of the big 50m×30m×15m asteroid in it, and sometimes even up to 105m from the center. Finally, the containment procedures mention that the Schwarzschild radius is to be "remeasured", while Addendum 2460-B says "recalculated" - is it supposed to be something they can observe directly, or is it an idle calculation for funsies that isn't relevant to anything?

@Dubanx Yes, I think you're right in principle (e.g. gravitational slingshot maneuvers also exchange momentum between large & small objects via gravity). Though, it might be infeasible since you don't want high velocity projectiles that bounce back and forth (orbit) far out, now with their quantum spin erased and "infecting" anything they touch in turn. (If we're nitpicking, that would have already happened with most kind of space debris colliding with it - unless the "105m" is some kind of anomalous limit due to it being a "strange attractor" (But what about the dark particles further out that hit the Foundation probe?)). Anyway, you need to accelerate 10^13kg, and if you have to limit speed, you need _even more mass_ to get momentum. Maybe it could work to sustain its orbit, but not accelerate it to escape velocity? Plus, adding more mass to the anomaly might not be such a good idea. Also, IDK what's harder to conceal: firing rockets/rail guns at it constantly, or bringing in a huge asteroid from elsewhere to tractor the anomaly?

i was thinking the same thing.

No general advanced technology? Like fusion reactors or Scranton reality anchors, just plain old fission and warding charms?

I'm just glad I haven't seen any flerfers or thunderdolts expounding on how gravity doesn't exist.

2% is a surprising amount, ether the universe is really small, or us humans just get to board and (literally) state off into space for a long time.

cool

Would you enjoy this SCP if it was stripped down to "there's a cloud of ghost space debris orbiting Earth and it can transform other matter into ghost matter, thus it threatens us a lot and there's only a little we could do, also it kinda answers one of the greatest questions of modern science"? I know I would. So maybe it's not really that bad, having at least an interesting idea? Also, I personally did not find the tone condescending at all.

This SCP is awesome what are you on about?

@@Quadrohedron I hope the irony is not lost on you

That describes 99% of SCP entries in one way or another. This is far from the worst of them.

@@ScionCrush To be honest, it... Is?.. Care to elaborate, please? I'm genuinely uncertain of what you're hinting towards, sorry.